Covid-19, Lockdown and repercussions

[bryant.coleman]

It's true however if those city mayors will cooperate to vaccinated those people easily let's say per  city has population of 100 thousand people and if they can easily vaccinated 10 thousand people aday it's not impossible to vaccinated all people in india because they're so much affected by this pandemic if those government want's really to control everything they had choice to do so make a good plan lock down the cities and start making a good plan on how they can easily vaccinated those millions of people like in my country.

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

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[Mauser]

It's true however if those city mayors will cooperate to vaccinated those people easily let's say per  city has population of 100 thousand people and if they can easily vaccinated 10 thousand people aday it's not impossible to vaccinated all people in india because they're so much affected by this pandemic if those government want's really to control everything they had choice to do so make a good plan lock down the cities and start making a good plan on how they can easily vaccinated those millions of people like in my country.

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

[Ultegra134]

Those are large numbers, it's promising to hear that vaccinations are conducted smoothly. Unfortunately, at least a 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to achieve immunity, thus, it will take time for the effects to show. I wouldn't worry though, if the vaccination program is running as you're mentioning, it will be achieved in the few next months.

Unlike here, they are progressing way too slowly, only a 7% of the population to be exact. If it continues like that, it would take years to vaccinate the majority of the population.

India is having a population of 1400 million, and even if the vaccination rate is stepped up to 5 million doses per day, it will take another one and half years to vaccinate everyone (given that everyone needs two doses). So far around 30 million people have been vaccinated. In absolute numbers, it may sound huge. But in terms of percentage of the population, it is very minuscule at around 2%. And out of 2%, only a very few have received the second dose.

I haven't looked that up to be honest, thus, judging by the analogy of the population and the vaccination process, it will indeed take a long time to get even half of the population vaccinated, in terms of percentages, we're actually looking at depressing results. Not to mention that by then, there might be a new dominant strain that will lower the effectiveness of vaccines.

[bryant.coleman]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

[Ultegra134]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

[Fatunad]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Its mentioned that it is on other countries that do face up shortages and to those few countries that you have mentioned.They might not really be facing some shortages but on other areas in the world does.
Honestly im bit skeptical with those vaccines even if its already available into my place but i dont still have the confidence on taking some does of it even though its on the risk of covid 19 but i cant
really remove into my mind about the side effects that could possibly come out with those new vaccines even though its being tested already but maybe in few months time i would consider on taking
on if i do see no problems for that one.

[Sithara007]

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Israel signed contracts with the vaccine manufacturers at a very early stage, and as a result they have been able to completely vaccinate almost 50% of their population until now. But that doesn't mean that there is a shortage of vaccines in Israel. If enough vaccines were available, then they could have vaccinated everyone in the country. The same with United Kingdom as well. So far they have administered two doses of the vaccine only to 2.4% of the population.

[South Park]

Every one is about to get royally screwed. There is a very dangerous mutation spreading in Brazil, which is much more contagious and deadly. It was first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus (called as mutation P1 by medics). This mutation infects people who were infected previously with COVID 19 and has proved to be deadly even for healthy people in their 30s and 40s. As of now, it is limited to Brazil, but it is just a matter of time before the mutated version spreads to the other countries.

Could you give a link about this especially when it comes to increased lethality? I have been reading some about this new strain of the virus but while it seems it can spread easier and that it can in fact reinfect those that have been infected by Covid before it seems lethality has not changed, which is the most important factor as increased lethality will basically force us into a lockdown all over the world once again and no one wants that.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

[Spaffin]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

[AllGoodNamesAreTaken]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

They stopped vaccination with AstraZeneca in Europe this week because there where some cases of blood clot.

[Vishnu.Reang]

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

The vaccine from Oxford/AstraZeneca is Adenovirus Vector vaccine, so the efficacy may be slightly lower. But it is easier to produce and therefore more affordable. The Sputnik V vaccine from Russia is also of this type, but they use two different viral vectors. So it is more effective and slightly more expensive. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are RNA vaccines. Highly effective, but difficult to store and somewhat unaffordable to many people.

[Argoo]

Of course, the size of this pandemic and its consequences are dire. However, measures to combat the coronavirus pandemic are no less destructive. Now the third wave of this virus is approaching and its more formidable new strains have appeared. When it will end is still unknown. From prolonged isolation and often job loss, people are increasingly beginning to protest tough quarantine measures. However, every cloud has a silver lining. From the forced idleness, people became more and more interested in cryptocurrency. Most likely, in this regard, the cryptocurrency is now growing well in price.

[Sithara007]

Of course, the size of this pandemic and its consequences are dire. However, measures to combat the coronavirus pandemic are no less destructive. Now the third wave of this virus is approaching and its more formidable new strains have appeared. When it will end is still unknown. From prolonged isolation and often job loss, people are increasingly beginning to protest tough quarantine measures. However, every cloud has a silver lining. From the forced idleness, people became more and more interested in cryptocurrency. Most likely, in this regard, the cryptocurrency is now growing well in price.

The authorities are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they impose further lockdown/quarantine measures, then the economy will get destroyed and their tax revenues will decline. On the other hand, if they don't take any concrete measure, then the death toll will mount (similar to what we are witnessing in Brazil right now). It is going to be tough at least until the end of this year, since the vaccine mass production is still not up to the mark.

[Ultegra134]

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Israel signed contracts with the vaccine manufacturers at a very early stage, and as a result they have been able to completely vaccinate almost 50% of their population until now. But that doesn't mean that there is a shortage of vaccines in Israel. If enough vaccines were available, then they could have vaccinated everyone in the country. The same with United Kingdom as well. So far they have administered two doses of the vaccine only to 2.4% of the population.

That's exactly what I said, they were smart enough to forecast that such a thing with shortages would happen. The same thing goes with the Pfizer vaccine, which is produced in the UK and have secured a large batch of vaccines for their own population.

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

There are already plenty of approved vaccines, some of which are Moderna, Sputnik which is about to receive European approval, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the Johnson which got recently approved.

[Vishnu.Reang]

There are already plenty of approved vaccines, some of which are Moderna, Sputnik which is about to receive European approval, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the Johnson which got recently approved.

Right now there are 12 different vaccines, which have received either full authorization, or emergency use authorization (EUA) from at least one country. Out of these 12, seven have received authorization from large number of countries: Pfizer–BioNTech, Sputnik V, Oxford–AstraZeneca, Sinopharm, Sinovac, Moderna and Janssen. The remaining 5, with limited authorization are: CanSino, Bharat Biotech, Vector Institute, Anhui Zhifei and Chumakov Centre.

[cheezcarls]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

Even in my country, there seems to be a new wave of COVID 19 infection. The new strains are causing this surge. Virus is staring to mutate to vaccine-resistant types, which are more contagious and lethal. Reports from Brazil indicate that these new strains are even infecting people who recovered from COVID 19 earlier. Still, there is good news as well. Look at the case of United Kingdom. The number of daily deaths have decreased by more than 90%, ever since the vaccination program started.

[Ultegra134]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

[Sithara007]

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

I don't understand the point in reopening churches and schools when the services can be conducted online. I am in favor of reopening the essential services such as retail shops, but there is no need to permit churches to reopen. But I can understand the situation in developing nations, where churches make most of the policy decisions and retain a disproportionate influence on the government.