Covid-19, Lockdown and repercussions

[mamesso]

~Snip~ I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Since the Covid-19 pandemic began, all our activities are very limited so that we have to shut ourselves up at a home. The main impact we have to face are financial problems.
Yeah, The pandemic really changed everything and makes us be always haunted by a fear of doing activities as usual, Moreover, we must comply with the lockdown rules set by the government.

I hope this pandemic ends soon, if not, maybe the impact will be much bigger than before, people affected by long-term anxiety, this can a much more serious mental health problem.
Do we still remember the SARS Outbreak, yeah, The SARS outbreak that occurred in 2003 was associated with a 30% increase in suicides in people over the age of 65.

Strategies to minimize the spread of viruses such as quarantine, vaccinations etc carried out by the government have not been fully effective, but what we have to do are maintain mental health and take advantage of free time to do hobby, exercise and looking for certain activities that can trigger satisfaction to relieve stress.

[bitgolden]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

[Ultegra134]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

One thing I definitely hate is conspiracy theorists, I hadn't seen flu or any other cause killing thousands' of people each day. I don't recall having 50-60-70 deaths in Greece daily, yet there are still some who believe in nonsense and are against vaccinations.

On the other hand, I get what you are saying, and I have the perfect example to present. We were put on lock down in 7th of November, having approximately 1,500 cases daily, for the first week of November (Late October was way lower). At the same time, we only had 170-180 patients in ICUs then, now we have over 750, and this number is expected to rise. Despite the current situation, the government is planning to ease the quarantine measures, in an effort to relieve the economy.

[Sithara007]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

Flu doesn't have a mortality rate of 2% to 4%. It normally have a mortality rate of less than 0.1% (and these deaths are almost exclusively limited to people who are above 80 years or age or those with multiple comorbidities). The argument that COVID 19 is no more harmful than flu has cost us around 2.84 million human lives till now. All sort of propaganda is being spread around, from comparing COVID 19 to flu, and demonizing the vaccines which are designed to protect humans against the virus.

[Kittygalore]

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

Let me guess you support the administration despite their incompetence in this pandemic? Yes they are doing their best but not on the right direction, they do their best on propaganda rather than helping the people and killing union leaders and activists by tagging them as communists. What do you mean aggressive? Imprisoning everyone who opposes them or killing innocents and planting evidences or not having any vaccine rollout because the president's cabinet is incompetent as to doing the paperwork so we didn't get the early arrival of vaccines? No need for evidence when you can see it happening right in front of your eyes.

[Myleschetty]

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

Let me guess you support the administration despite their incompetence in this pandemic?

I don't think he supports the administration cause it seems like he's trying to be fair here because this pandemic issue is not something the world is prepared for, experience it kind or something that happens small, it something that took the world by storm and every government body was all trapped and don't know what to do sometimes.

[Ultegra134]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

Flu doesn't have a mortality rate of 2% to 4%. It normally have a mortality rate of less than 0.1% (and these deaths are almost exclusively limited to people who are above 80 years or age or those with multiple comorbidities). The argument that COVID 19 is no more harmful than flu has cost us around 2.84 million human lives till now. All sort of propaganda is being spread around, from comparing COVID 19 to flu, and demonizing the vaccines which are designed to protect humans against the virus.

The worst scenario is that there are even doctors comparing Covid-19 with the regular flue. Especially in the early days of the pandemic, it was a really common occurrence. Were they regular conspiracy theorists, people who wanted recognition from the ignorant? Who knows. Noteworthy examples are John Ioannidis or Fedon Vovolis.

[jaberwock]

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

I know that makes no sense, why would anyone make people stay at home for 6 months but then let them move around the whole nation spreading it? Well that is because tourism is a big deal and people want to make profit from that, if you keep that restricted that would make politicians under threat of losing elections.

[Lorence.xD]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

[Ultegra134]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

The problem is that the governments are trying to balance public health with economy. We've been having a full lockdown here for six months, the economy here is probably doomed, leading to a 4th Memorandum after the pandemic ends. I believe that it is possible to balance the quarantine measures, only providing some degree of freedom, such as open retail and open restaurants/coffee shops, limited to their outdoor premises.

[AndySt]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

The problem is that the opinions of these experts may not coincide with each other and these experts may suggest opposite measures and also suggest different deadlines for taking measures. Therefore, governments can listen to the opinions of some experts and reject the opinions of others, by the way, very often depending on political preferences Governments have to act according to their capabilities, which may not match the proposals of experts, and the shortage of vaccines is one example. As for the discipline of people, I would like to say that patience and understanding of people have their limits, after which discipline and consciousness can fall significantly.

[Desmong]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

I think my country is quite different cos at the initial time covd19 emanated, things become difficult affecting the price of goods and services especially food stuffs and other basic amenities. That was the  first phase of convid 19 ranging from 12/03/2021 to 01/09/2021. During this period I almost go begging cause of high price of food and means to make money was frozen as a result of  serious restriction of movement.

The second phase of lock down was less severe maybe because of the repercussions of the first phase. Well I thank God that my country is not under any restriction again. Things have started going back to normal now, while the wise ones have started investing in skills acquisition that could help to avert the infliction of any further lockdown.
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[Sithara007]

I think my country is quite different cos at the initial time covd19 emanated, things become difficult affecting the price of goods and services especially food stuffs and other basic amenities. That was the  first phase of convid 19 ranging from 12/03/2021 to 01/09/2021. During this period I almost go begging cause of high price of food and means to make money was frozen as a result of  serious restriction of movement.

The second phase of lock down was less severe maybe because of the repercussions of the first phase. Well I thank God that my country is not under any restriction again. Things have started going back to normal now, while the wise ones have started investing in skills acquisition that could help to avert the infliction of any further lockdown.

You will hear similar stories from all around the world. Here in India, the lockdown was announced all of a sudden and people were given just a couple of hours to stock essential items. And the shopkeepers took advantage of this and increased the prices by 2x or 3x. The worst affected were migrant workers, who got stuck without any access to provisions. Many of them tried to return to their native villages by foot, walking for 1,000 or 1,500 km continuously.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

You will hear similar stories from all around the world. Here in India, the lockdown was announced all of a sudden and people were given just a couple of hours to stock essential items. And the shopkeepers took advantage of this and increased the prices by 2x or 3x. The worst affected were migrant workers, who got stuck without any access to provisions. Many of them tried to return to their native villages by foot, walking for 1,000 or 1,500 km continuously.

I might have to be a little bit thankful that this kind of situation didn't happen in my country, the problem in my country though is the people that hoards like Smaug of the essential items but other than that, the situation in my country and yours isn't that different, people from provinces got caught in the lockdown in cities focing them to walk or if they are lucky, get to hitch a ride from a government transport but that one is unlikely to happen.

[Alobo Realer]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

The pandemic has done lot of bad and good things in my country but in my local residence there was no lockdown yet price of things went up 45% and seems to remain up. Majority of the people switched from Crypto and Stock market investment to handwork and gambling.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

When it comes to financial, I admit I make an adjustment on how I will going to budget my money. Due to this pandemic our company required us to work from home. Due to that meal allowance and transportation allowance were cancelled. The salary to received per month as expected willnow lessen plus the company does not provide electricity and internet allowance. My head aches thinking that our salary was lessen but there are additional expenses. In that case, I decided to home on our province then give up the dorm. If I am in my province, no dorm to pay anymore this decision helps me alot when it comes to financial.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

When it comes to financial, I admit I make an adjustment on how I will going to budget my money. Due to this pandemic our company required us to work from home. Due to that meal allowance and transportation allowance were cancelled. The salary to received per month as expected will now be lessen plus the company does not provide electricity and internet allowance. My head aches thinking that our salary was lessen but there are additional expenses. In that case, I decided to go home on our province then give up the dorm. If I am in my province, no dorm to pay anymore. This decision helps me alot when it comes to financial aspects.

But I gained a lot of mental issues. I encountered stress on workloads, required 2 hours OT everyday, required multiple saturday works, slow internet connections when I needed it the most, and shortage of electricity. Well we can do a timeshift, I can work 12Mid to 9AM since internet connection is fast during those time but it is not enough to finish the tasks given. I really wanted to quit the job but thinking that it is pandemic period and finding another job will be difficult so I have no choice but to participate in OTs and Saturday works and wait until those projects were already finished. After that I got a reward, I have a long holiday break, that was a total of 3 weeks break. I am so happy. I got a chance to recharge and get myself back.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I might have to be a little bit thankful that this kind of situation didn't happen in my country, the problem in my country though is the people that hoards like Smaug of the essential items but other than that, the situation in my country and yours isn't that different, people from provinces got caught in the lockdown in cities focing them to walk or if they are lucky, get to hitch a ride from a government transport but that one is unlikely to happen.

In most of the countries, the lockdown was imposed in a phased manner and that gave migrants enough time to make the travel arrangements. However in India, the lockdown was imposed all of a sudden and that made it very difficult for most people to make travel arrangements, or to stock up essential items. Anyway, I am glad that there were not many human casualties despite the fact that the restrictions were imposed in a haphazard manner.

[sapnu]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

This pandemic stole away many individuals living, ever since it started lots of business and institutions unwillingly shut down. In my case, considering how poor our country is and their response to this pandemic, nothing's getting better. You can see lots of families here dying not only because of the virus but also because of famine. As people lose their jobs and businesses, the government continues to give off a very poor performance leading the pandemic to worsen. Lockdown has been unending ever since and the only thing the government is doing is updating the citizens of the active counts without even providing an effective solution. Mental health is also being forgotten and it's a really unfortunate life that you ended up existing on this kind of country where hope's slowly fading away day by day.

[Bizoran]

The pandemic totally changes everything and makes us see the world as a different thing but one thing I understand about complying with the total lockdown and dealing with the financial and the mental repercussions caused by the pandemic/lockdown is that it better to stay alive than get kill by the virus.
The only way I depressed about the financial and mental repercussions is by taking an online class and looking for an online job that will bring something good for me. In the meantime, the Greece government ought to make a huge step in getting the virus vaccine.

Yes, because of this coronavirus, there has been a lockdown for this epidemic of corona virus all over the world and the world has changed a lot for this lockdown. The economic and mental conditions have changed a lot, especially education. Every country has taken initiative to make up for this loss.  I think it would have been a good initiative to take the class. It would have been better if all the countries had arranged online jobs in the midst of this lockdown. Now the world has started applying the most common vaccine. Hopefully, the acquaintance will return to normal.