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February 11, 2021, 11:44:06 PM |
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If casino's are trying to scam players, then we won't see it becoming a billion dollar industry. I understand your frustrations though as a fellow gambler, that's why we should play only on reputable gambling platform, or at least read the ToS first before playing on any particular gambling site. Because if you didn't, you might get trap if you violate one of their ToS and obviously you can't withdraw your money unless you go to their processes (KYC, etc..).
OP is referring to a specific casinos, not the whole industry because that billion dollar industry is the whole gambling industry, that includes sports betting industry I believe. here's his statement. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money.
one site mistake does not affect the other, you are right that OP should look for a reputable casinos as these shitty casinos will always use their TOS to scam gamblers.
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February 11, 2021, 11:57:22 PM |
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Here are the list of Softwiss casinos operating in the crypto gambling industry: https://softswiss-casinos.com/ luckily my favorite casinos aren't on that list but some of them are known like TrueFlip and Winz and they have been introduced here in bitcointalk. Better you read the terms and conditions first before you do so and here's the catch better look on the t&c about withdrawal/deposit, the restricted country, if it requires KYC or not and more similar problems that most people do encounter in an online casino. I usually didn't read the whole t&c but I mostly do look for those I mentioned above as that's when it really gets messy if these casinos put some restriction on your account.
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February 12, 2021, 01:36:38 AM |
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Hmm, that's odd. Softswiss casinos seem to be working properly, and Softswiss itself has some reputation. It's probably mismanagement or the casino itself is just using the name of Softswiss and isn't really a legit casino. You might wanna look that up beforehand. It might actually just be the management behind the casino itself, and Softswiss is just the developer or something similar of the sort. Tbh, might as well just opt to use other casinos that are more likely to be legit rather than others, especially since you've had an issue with not seeing their ToS.
Also in the first place, casinos were meant to scam you, just that you indirectly allow them. After all, no one can beat the house, and you're basically just paying them to have fun or have a chance to winning something bigger.
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February 12, 2021, 01:58:50 AM |
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If you want to accuse Softswiss you must show evidence, without evidence that you are seen to be lying. I want to be neutral in this matter, so I can't support you without evidence. After all, you accuse Softswiss of doing a scam with a newbie account, it makes it very hard for me to trust you. Regardless of whether Softswiss is guilty or not, we really have to be careful when choosing gambling platforms. Because the best way to choose gambling platforms is to choose gambling platforms that are promoted on this forum, and get positive reviews from many members of this forum.
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February 12, 2021, 03:54:47 AM |
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There is always a term in the condition in the legit gambling platform if you don't even see it before you deposit money then you have to think twice, you should always consider scammers while depositing money, there are so many scammers online so always be careful and doubtful to those things. If you want to gamble then there are so many trusted gambling platforms that you may try, we have here so many gambling platform that you can see for every signature of the member.
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February 12, 2021, 04:17:07 AM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
I think you need to explain more details about your problem, so we can help you solve it. Before you do that, I think you can contact the customer support on that site and ask about your problem. It would help if you gave them time to find and solve the problem, and that can't always solve in a short time because they need to search for the problem. You can ask in their ANN thread if they announce their site on here, so the admin or the staff can reply and help your problem. But I am not sure if a gambling site with a reputation will scam you because they always take care of their members.
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February 12, 2021, 04:42:03 AM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
You should have mentioned at least one casino sites that is run by softswiss where you have a bad experience we have hundreds of trusted gambling sites here, if you lose on one site that does not mean that all gambling sites has the same motive of scamming people, trusted gambling site will always resolve issues their members are facing.
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February 12, 2021, 06:38:19 AM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
Can you please let us know the name of the specific casino? I mean ranting doesn't always help to identify the real issue! But it is best to talk about the specific issue that you have faced. It also helps to create awareness! Which casino? How much you have lost? What is the response given by their support? Let us know these to better identify the issue and possibly help to remediate.
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shoreno
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February 12, 2021, 06:48:46 AM |
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Can you please let us know the name of the specific casino?
i think that would be unclear because he already said that all casinos under that software are all sh8t I mean ranting doesn't always help to identify the real issue! But it is best to talk about the specific issue that you have faced. It also helps to create awareness! Which casino? How much you have lost? What is the response given by their support? Let us know these to better identify the issue and possibly help to remediate.
ranting can be his way to release his anger plus he already address his own issue and he was pointing out the said software . maybe he can get a relief if theres a real repsentative of that software that will reply here or talk to him in private just to clear things out if what really happened to his money
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Silberman
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February 12, 2021, 06:20:14 PM Last edit: February 13, 2021, 07:47:22 PM by Silberman |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
You need to report this to the community, those scammers are the ones that give a bad reputation to the market of cryptocurrencies in general and we cannot tolerate them anymore, the fact that you are not shown the terms and conditions of the website is shady as hell, after all how are you going to comply with their terms and conditions that they have if they do not show them to you? While many websites have similar terms and conditions at the same time they are not ever the same, there is variation between those terms and we need to read them in order to know what they are, however this to me seems like an issue with the people using that software more than the software itself, so from now on before depositing your coins in a website try to look for reviews here in the forum about whether or not they are a good casino.
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February 12, 2021, 06:37:37 PM |
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Don’t deposit and play to unfamiliar online casinos even if they offer huge amount of bonuses. There’s a lot of legit crypto casinos in the internet and a lot of happy players are satisfied with their services, don’t waste your time on low reputation and suspicious one. If you’re hesitant you can search for feedbacks online or research about their background.
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February 12, 2021, 06:48:21 PM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
Can you please let us know the name of the specific casino? I mean ranting doesn't always help to identify the real issue! But it is best to talk about the specific issue that you have faced. It also helps to create awareness! Which casino? How much you have lost? What is the response given by their support? Let us know these to better identify the issue and possibly help to remediate. This is what i'd like to know too on what casino he had faced off this problem? Its better to reach out into their support and explained on what happen about his withdrawal is declined. If we do talk about legit casinos here then this problem will most likely to be resolved easily but if we do talk on playing on unknown or not so popular one then expect that those coins or money is lost forever. Its important @OP to at least mention on where he do experience this one but actually he can only resolved this one out on approaching the issue to the site itself.
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February 12, 2021, 08:11:10 PM |
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Don’t deposit and play to unfamiliar online casinos even if they offer huge amount of bonuses. There’s a lot of legit crypto casinos in the internet and a lot of happy players are satisfied with their services, don’t waste your time on low reputation and suspicious one. If you’re hesitant you can search for feedbacks online or research about their background.
We didn't know what casino is it yet but OP just blindly trusted the casino and proceeded to deposit even though he knows it's already a red-flag when there's no ToS. I doubt if their support would make a valid reason why OP didn't get his money. I hope it's not that much though. Anyway, this is the reason why we should only play gambling to a reputable casino because we will know what kind of casino are they upon reading the feedbacks of their own customers. And I don't think a software has got something to do with the casino not showing their ToS?
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February 13, 2021, 10:18:56 PM |
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Terms and conditions are indeed supposed to be disclosed to the customer for everything that would involve the customer paying the casino or anything that concerns money really. That being said, it is also known by many that almost everyone is not reading the terms and conditions and would just opt to skip it to get straight to the betting, I know this isn't the case for some people but you have to understand that this is the greater majority's behavior. For sure they will opt you to have the terms and conditions be disclosed somewhere but not in situations where the customer eould find it annoying, or better yet, don't bet on sites like this.
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February 13, 2021, 10:46:17 PM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
If you have bad experience on one then post it in the scam section then post the link here so we'll know the real issue with your allegations and proofs, you are just speculating on something that you cannot sustain, we should be responsible on posting proof to sustain our allegations.
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February 14, 2021, 04:11:41 PM |
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I wonder what casino is this Op talking about. If doubting the casino in the first place never risks to gamble. This is crucial before playing and risking your money in a casino is to always read the TOS. This will serve as your weapon throughout your gaming time in that casino. I hope your issues of withdrawal will be solved.
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February 14, 2021, 06:15:36 PM |
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Am I the only one that noticed that all the casinos that are run by softswiss choose to not show you the terms while making a deposit and then they end up not working. whatsup with that. Those specific casinos always end up scamming you for their money. The one time I finally win something my withdrawal is declined because some type of bullshit in the terms. do you guys think this is some way of them trying to scam all their players?
I understand what you are saying that's why if I am investing money in a casino I make sure to check it though user reviews , even if it might not be mentioned in the site I do believe that there are people out there who do share their experiences with these kinds of casinos therefore make sure to check: Scam accusations This thread too! There are casinos who have simple terms like : Not using the VPN Depositing money before withdrawing etc therefore I believe it's not something that big but for sure can be avoided ! I do believe you can try and talk with their customer services and see if anything works out if not then I believe you just learned something from this experience. Best of luck I hope you did not loose much. ( You can also tip some users and then ask them to deposit money in your wallet if possible? )
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February 14, 2021, 10:04:05 PM |
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I'd highly suggest that you stay away from these suspicious sites as this are good signs a casino is a scam or a rug casino. Not giving you any terms to abide by may seem nice at a first glance but that's about where it all ends considering you are also not going to be covered by the casino should there be a robbery, or if in the case that the casino runs away with all your money. I wonder what casino is this Op talking about. If doubting the casino in the first place never risks to gamble. This is crucial before playing and risking your money in a casino is to always read the TOS. This will serve as your weapon throughout your gaming time in that casino. I hope your issues of withdrawal will be solved.
Would've been real nice if OP was able tp drop it in his post so experts can take a look at it and draw their final verdict.
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February 15, 2021, 04:53:13 AM |
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I wonder what casino is this Op talking about. If doubting the casino in the first place never risks to gamble. This is crucial before playing and risking your money in a casino is to always read the TOS. This will serve as your weapon throughout your gaming time in that casino. I hope your issues of withdrawal will be solved.
Definitely not one that is famous in this forum, if it were those casinos, I think that they were already flagged a long time ago. I don't read the TOS but I do agree with you that anyone that wants to play in that casino needs to read the TOS, but that only works if money is involved like in an online casinos. The problem with that is that if you find it unacceptable and you don't find any casino that offers the same, they will not allow you to play which is a fair but it needs to change.
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February 15, 2021, 06:40:37 AM |
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Actually the softswiss casino gambling site already has a warning on this forum: Topic: SoftSwiss.com - Scammers - Warning, it's just that if we are lazy to find a decent and honest casino to play with, that's the risk that will occur, if the end of the story is cheating. OP, there are actually a lot of honest and reliable casino sites that you can find on this forum, to come looking for or don't be easily tempted by casinos that offer something tantalizing, look for their Reputation here, then make the decision to deposit and play. That's one way you can avoid casino sites, bad reputation.
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