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March 22, 2021, 11:53:16 PM
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True to that. As we gamble longer, we will gain experience including those bad days and best days. And while having those, we have to make sure that for every lose that we make, we're going to learn something new thus you don't really care and it's just only about losing. Having a lesson as you lose makes you still win because you formulate yourself a strategy whether it be in game or your approach to the game that you're enjoying to play with.
Sometimes the longer we play the addiction sinks it that we still needs to head's up ourselves to fully control ourselves and have discipline. I don't believe that gambling requires skills unless it's a sport or some of card games since mostly it will depend on how lucky we are in that time since cards, teams were out of our control. Those who survive playing long without signs of addiction already surpass the stage of being out of control into being full control in their activities.
It does requires it for specific games and it's all up to you how you shall define that kind of skill that you want to have. Luck is always a given thing in gambling, whether you're in the luck dependent games or skilled dependent games. We are always wishing to be lucky with our bets and it's not that fate that will give you the win but the choice that you do and if you believe that you are being accompanied by luck, you shall win. And those long time gamblers, they know how to manage and handle things already on their own.
Luck and ability cannot be separated from gambling and indeed all depend on the gambling that is played.
and most importantly for me our experience and ability in gambling will be very valuable and will be an example to be careful before betting, and choose bets according to my experience and abilities so that luck is more on my side.

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March 23, 2021, 01:08:15 AM
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An important role that we must always apply in gambling is to have a time limit to be able to stop the game, because if we decide to continue playing, in the end we will lose control and are always curious to be able to win the game
Things like that can actually be self-defeating and even make things worse

Sometimes, limiting the time and money in gambling can be forgotten by many gamblers because they are too busy to play and really have fun with the game. It will tempt them to use more money without them realize and that is happening to many gamblers, including me in the first time I am playing gambling. But if they really care about their money and time, they are always trying to limit it and never break that.

That's discipline should be their so instead of losing your control, you'll be more stronger and you'll be able to improve in the long run. Just like getting into business, there are trials at the early stage of your venture but if you learn while you continue, eventually you'll improve.

Maybe treat gambling as a business so you can act professionally.

It is difficult always to manage discipline because it's something that we must have. Not many gamblers can still discipline while playing gambling, especially if they win the money, which can attract them to use more money instead of withdrawing the money.

I do not consider gambling as a business because gambling is just a game and I only need to have fun for a while in my free time. If I can not have discipline, I will not have that money because that can be gone on the gambling table.

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March 23, 2021, 01:39:41 AM
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An important role that we must always apply in gambling is to have a time limit to be able to stop the game, because if we decide to continue playing, in the end we will lose control and are always curious to be able to win the game
Things like that can actually be self-defeating and even make things worse

Sometimes, limiting the time and money in gambling can be forgotten by many gamblers because they are too busy to play and really have fun with the game. It will tempt them to use more money without them realize and that is happening to many gamblers, including me in the first time I am playing gambling. But if they really care about their money and time, they are always trying to limit it and never break that.
Probably why it's a lot easier to limit one of the two instead of both. It'd probably better to limit money instead of time though, since with time, let's say play for an hr, that means you technically have an unlimited amount of money to spend during that time, while if limited by money, even if you can spend it around by playing low bets forever, that would probably just end up boring you, though that does help if you're in it for the game and not for the money.

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March 23, 2021, 01:43:04 AM
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Playing gambling for a long period of time will surely give user a sure loss due to human error. But as I said above, each round result is purely chance.

I looked at the opposite outcome, we are suppose to improve if we play longer, otherwise we are just wasting time and money. I'm referring to particular type of games where you can use your skills, but for luck based games, then you'll surely lose in the long run, not because of an error but because of the house edge, that's very simple to understand.
True to that. As we gamble longer, we will gain experience including those bad days and best days. And while having those, we have to make sure that for every lose that we make, we're going to learn something new thus you don't really care and it's just only about losing. Having a lesson as you lose makes you still win because you formulate yourself a strategy whether it be in game or your approach to the game that you're enjoying to play with.

Responsible gamblers always find for the best way of his gambling experienced. It's not about winning or losing but with how you react from each situations.

Learning how to manage yourself will definitely gives you better chances, though it's really depends from the type of gambling that you are involve with, strategy games needs skills and knowledge while with luck based gambling mostly depends from luck to accompanied you during your stay.


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March 23, 2021, 04:43:35 AM
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Fate is like destiny, it is inevitable to happen whatever you do. Unlike in gambling, when you lose control during losses and try to recover it then you will end up with more loss. Meanwhile when winning if you lose control, the house will get it back if you will get greedy. Fate has only one inevitable result while luck is either 50/50 of good or bad so I don't really relate fate in gambling. People often justify that it is their fate to lose in gambling to lessen the pain.
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March 23, 2021, 07:52:11 PM
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It does requires it for specific games and it's all up to you how you shall define that kind of skill that you want to have. Luck is always a given thing in gambling, whether you're in the luck dependent games or skilled dependent games. We are always wishing to be lucky with our bets and it's not that fate that will give you the win but the choice that you do and if you believe that you are being accompanied by luck, you shall win. And those long time gamblers, they know how to manage and handle things already on their own.
Luck and ability cannot be separated from gambling and indeed all depend on the gambling that is played.
and most importantly for me our experience and ability in gambling will be very valuable and will be an example to be careful before betting, and choose bets according to my experience and abilities so that luck is more on my side.
Experience is the other factor that you will be dependent of when you cannot control yourself anymore. You'll remember those losing streak that you've made and even those winning streak that you had but because you cannot properly control yourself, you've just lost it all.
And in that remembrance, you're going to have your path in the right way of deciding of what you must do for you to avoid it and won't experience that bad experience you had before.

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March 23, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
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The more we gamble the more experience we gain and the chances of hitting big multipliers increase at the same time. Faith or not, what matters is being lucky player in casino, otherwise, no matter how we improve money management and strategies. Addiction forces us to gamble more, I personally prefer to hit big once and quit gambling.
How has experience have to do with Dice? Such a game is pure luck and can hardly ever be predicted. I've even lost a bet while betting with 95% chance. Unless you mean experience in controlling yourself of not letting go by your emotions, then I did not understand what you said correctly.

I do not really believe in strategies over these games, from my point of view, it's solely based on luck.

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March 24, 2021, 01:47:37 AM
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Fate is like destiny, it is inevitable to happen whatever you do. Unlike in gambling, when you lose control during losses and try to recover it then you will end up with more loss. Meanwhile when winning if you lose control, the house will get it back if you will get greedy. Fate has only one inevitable result while luck is either 50/50 of good or bad so I don't really relate fate in gambling. People often justify that it is their fate to lose in gambling to lessen the pain.
Actually, in games based 100% on luck almost everyone is destined to lose then, because you can't defeat the house on long run with less winning chances than the casino. Since the gambler has 2% or 1,5% less winning chances than the house, the long run loss is inevitable. Very few players are able to overcome the natural *fate* of gamblers by hitting the jackpot on short run, but these are very few exceptions.

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March 24, 2021, 02:34:24 AM
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Fate is like destiny, it is inevitable to happen whatever you do. Unlike in gambling, when you lose control during losses and try to recover it then you will end up with more loss. Meanwhile when winning if you lose control, the house will get it back if you will get greedy. Fate has only one inevitable result while luck is either 50/50 of good or bad so I don't really relate fate in gambling. People often justify that it is their fate to lose in gambling to lessen the pain.
Actually, in games based 100% on luck almost everyone is destined to lose then, because you can't defeat the house on long run with less winning chances than the casino. Since the gambler has 2% or 1,5% less winning chances than the house, the long run loss is inevitable. Very few players are able to overcome the natural *fate* of gamblers by hitting the jackpot on short run, but these are very few exceptions.
If there's no way to defeat the house edge then we are really destined to lose and just relying on our luck? I think its not often the case.

Well in dice I believe its more on luck. Based on my experience, regardless of what strategy I use, the outcome will only rely on how lucky you are on that particular moment. But there are games wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win just like in sports betting.

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March 24, 2021, 03:17:34 AM
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Fate is like destiny, it is inevitable to happen whatever you do. Unlike in gambling, when you lose control during losses and try to recover it then you will end up with more loss. Meanwhile when winning if you lose control, the house will get it back if you will get greedy. Fate has only one inevitable result while luck is either 50/50 of good or bad so I don't really relate fate in gambling. People often justify that it is their fate to lose in gambling to lessen the pain.
Actually, in games based 100% on luck almost everyone is destined to lose then, because you can't defeat the house on long run with less winning chances than the casino. Since the gambler has 2% or 1,5% less winning chances than the house, the long run loss is inevitable. Very few players are able to overcome the natural *fate* of gamblers by hitting the jackpot on short run, but these are very few exceptions.
If there's no way to defeat the house edge then we are really destined to lose and just relying on our luck? I think its not often the case.

Well in dice I believe its more on luck. Based on my experience, regardless of what strategy I use, the outcome will only rely on how lucky you are on that particular moment. But there are games wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win just like in sports betting.
In dice you can beat the house, but on short run, with high multiplier (small winning chance per bet, but with huge prize). However, even playing smart, most gamblers will still lose, because most of them will take too long to hit the prize, spending more money towards the goal than the desired prize itself. Another option is to play less bets as possible, but betting high.

In sports generally, as you said, there are attributes besides luck which make the difference, but still most gamblers lose on long run. Sad
After all, the winners and casino's profit has to come from somewhere.

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March 24, 2021, 03:54:31 AM
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Playing gambling for a long period of time will surely give user a sure loss due to human error. But as I said above, each round result is purely chance.

I looked at the opposite outcome, we are suppose to improve if we play longer, otherwise we are just wasting time and money. I'm referring to particular type of games where you can use your skills, but for luck based games, then you'll surely lose in the long run, not because of an error but because of the house edge, that's very simple to understand.

If you decide to play longer, you will have difficulty controlling yourself as you might see many intension in every round. If you win for some rounds, maybe that will feel excited, but suddenly, you lose for some rounds too, and that can make you have a high intension and of course, curiosity will become bigger.
It is not about the curiosity if But instead Greediness that will cover your gambling activity because the moment you have doubled or tripled your Funds that is more than enough to tell yourself to quit and go home
but the more you wanted to add wins is the more you lose the chances.
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In this matter, you can get lose control of yourself, and you can not survive in the gambling game. Once you get that, the only way to do it is to stop gambling, no matter if you are win or lose.
in order to Win in gambling, you must have self control and before even playing must have a Escape plan .

You know when to play and you know when to stop.

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March 24, 2021, 11:53:33 AM
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in order to Win in gambling, you must have self control and before even playing must have a Escape plan .

You know when to play and you know when to stop.

I don't understand the word escape plan, I mean if we are in control in gambling, we know what we are doing and we can stop anytime we want.

Escape plan are good for gamblers who are force to gamble and they have a problem controlling themselves, and these are problematic gamblers which I believe people with discipline will never be in this situation.

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March 24, 2021, 12:13:13 PM
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in order to Win in gambling, you must have self control and before even playing must have a Escape plan .

You know when to play and you know when to stop.

I don't understand the word escape plan, I mean if we are in control in gambling, we know what we are doing and we can stop anytime we want.
I think it is about assurance of not just trusting your own control but giving yourself a ultimatum , that is what i understand on that quote.
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Escape plan are good for gamblers who are force to gamble and they have a problem controlling themselves, and these are problematic gamblers which I believe people with discipline will never be in this situation.
Well what matters most is there is a escape plan for every gamblers either those who can control themselves or those who cannot.









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March 24, 2021, 01:45:43 PM
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in order to Win in gambling, you must have self control and before even playing must have a Escape plan .

You know when to play and you know when to stop.

Does this escape plan really works for those who are hooked up with gambling? Or is the only way out is after emptying their pocket?
Casual gamblers don't necessary need an escape plan, because they're responsible enough to be just casually gamble their spare money on their free time.
Gambling doesn't make you win, it's designed to be a fun game without you noticing that you're emptying your pocket when you're totally addicted to it.
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March 24, 2021, 05:19:51 PM
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I don't understand the word escape plan, I mean if we are in control in gambling, we know what we are doing and we can stop anytime we want.

Escape plan are good for gamblers who are force to gamble and they have a problem controlling themselves, and these are problematic gamblers which I believe people with discipline will never be in this situation.

Well i guess the word escape plan was really suited for gamblers like us. I do believe that once a gambler get entertained with playing even he has an ultimatum to himself he can only utter to himself "promise, this might be the last game for today/tonight". For me i am much more worried on myself when i am totally enjoying the game and have lost my control because i am hapoy for the meantime because i do win. Believe me, it is easy to say to have a discipline while you're not yet on game.
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If you decide to play longer, you will have difficulty controlling yourself as you might see many intension in every round. If you win for some rounds, maybe that will feel excited, but suddenly, you lose for some rounds too, and that can make you have a high intension and of course, curiosity will become bigger.
It is not about the curiosity if But instead Greediness that will cover your gambling activity because the moment you have doubled or tripled your Funds that is more than enough to tell yourself to quit and go home
but the more you wanted to add wins is the more you lose the chances.
A curiosity and greediness will be mix at that moment as it will hard to know if that is curiosity or greediness. But for me, that will be curiosity and a big asking about why we lose instead of winning more? Before we lose and the curiosity about why we lose, the greediness comes to us and makes us to playing more because we want to win more.

In this matter, you can get lose control of yourself, and you can not survive in the gambling game. Once you get that, the only way to do it is to stop gambling, no matter if you are win or lose.
in order to Win in gambling, you must have self control and before even playing must have a Escape plan .

You know when to play and you know when to stop.
Self-control is a must thing that we have in gambling to play without worry to lose more money because we can manage the money and know when to leave the game. If you want to win, you need to have luck because self-control is one thing that you need to prevent the big loss.

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March 25, 2021, 03:23:04 AM
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Gambling cannot be controlled. the fact is that nowadays many people have become devastated by gambling. especially if you play in slot games. I believe that the percentage of people who play with emotions is greater. after losing if they have money in the account may return the deposit immediately. this applies to the games we play directly. maybe the strategy if we play on sports betting we can apply it because we have a plan that we make

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March 25, 2021, 03:55:43 AM
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Not sure if fate is the right word to use just because online gambling is more of having knowledge, skill of the games and having a game plan vs. throwing out money without purpose. Only ourselves can have absolute control of how much we spend regardless if we win or lose.
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March 25, 2021, 11:29:25 AM
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Fate is like destiny, it is inevitable to happen whatever you do. Unlike in gambling, when you lose control during losses and try to recover it then you will end up with more loss. Meanwhile when winning if you lose control, the house will get it back if you will get greedy. Fate has only one inevitable result while luck is either 50/50 of good or bad so I don't really relate fate in gambling. People often justify that it is their fate to lose in gambling to lessen the pain.
Actually, in games based 100% on luck almost everyone is destined to lose then, because you can't defeat the house on long run with less winning chances than the casino. Since the gambler has 2% or 1,5% less winning chances than the house, the long run loss is inevitable. Very few players are able to overcome the natural *fate* of gamblers by hitting the jackpot on short run, but these are very few exceptions.
If there's no way to defeat the house edge then we are really destined to lose and just relying on our luck? I think its not often the case.

Well in dice I believe its more on luck. Based on my experience, regardless of what strategy I use, the outcome will only rely on how lucky you are on that particular moment. But there are games wherein knowledge and strategy are necessary to win just like in sports betting.
In dice you can beat the house, but on short run, with high multiplier (small winning chance per bet, but with huge prize). However, even playing smart, most gamblers will still lose, because most of them will take too long to hit the prize, spending more money towards the goal than the desired prize itself. Another option is to play less bets as possible, but betting high.

In sports generally, as you said, there are attributes besides luck which make the difference, but still most gamblers lose on long run. Sad
After all, the winners and casino's profit has to come from somewhere.
High risk, high rewards. I think that the concept of gambling is purely based on us losing. You lose a large bet, you get emotional and bet again, and again and again. You'll end up losing more in the long run than you can earn. I don't believe in fate, most gambling games, such as Dice, slots and so on, are purely based on luck and the law of averages.

Gambling can be controlled, but it's highly addictive, you may win once and become overconfident, then your bad luck and greediness kicks in, and you lose everything in the process.

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March 25, 2021, 12:07:19 PM
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I think gambling specially in dice is a combination of both fate and self-control. You may have the day when you are winning consecutive rolls but you got greedy and don't have an exit point where you must withdraw letting excitement take over your decisions thinking you can win more if you continue to play. We are all destined to lose in gambling it is just how we plan to get out in profit that will help us win.

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