Fate or lack of control - Gambling

[hahay]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

Whether there is fate or not, you still have to try so, it's up to what they say with their defeat whether it's because of fate or lack of control. It doesn't matter how much effort or effort you put in a process to achieve victory, because when your fate is unlucky then still, the big efforts you make will still be in vain, right. So, we can't blame those who say their defeat was due to fate because after all, fate itself is true.

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[Lordhermes]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

I don't think fate really has more effect on gambling than want most persons thinks. Fate is mostly related to religion that works with fate to achieve something in a more strange way with excellent results. When it comes to gambling luck with strategy works together to give a perfect result. When your strategy is good and then luck hit you, then things are going to work in an extra ordinary way.

Is it Faith or fate? Because the way it is understood,it's like they are taking it to be the related to religion and one's believe.Let me define the two.
Fate means destiny,while faith means having a strong believe and hope in something that it will yeald positive result.In other words,it is being optimistic about something.And so if the writer is talking about Fate,that is to say that he is relating it to man's destiny through gambling,and if it Faith,then he is probably referring to  a gambler having a strong believe that he will win a game.

[michellee]

We do not have to force them, but we can advise them, especially if they are in trouble. Yes, it is hard to recover from the addiction to gambling, but we should try for them so they know that we care for them and want to help them solve their problem. I am sure we can cure the addicted because everyone does not want to have the worst experience. The first thing that we should do is change their habits daily, giving them a new habit to do.

It depends on how close you are to the gambler, if you are an immediate family like a wife or a father they will likely listen to your advice, the most important thing is you understand them and you are more than willing to help them to overcome the addiction, gamblers will let you interfere if they think that they can trust you, trust is the start of healing, so if you want gamblers to trust let them know you are more than willing to help them.

It will not too difficult to listen to our member families than to listen to other people who do not closest to us because sometimes, they do not want to tell their problem to us and it is hard to know what is happening to them. If that is our member families, maybe we can know if something happens to them so we can directly ask them and suggest something to them. I agree that we need to get their trust to us so that will not be too difficult to help them and solve their problem.

[oktana]

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

Many people can't accept their mistakes so they are at risk gambling depends on luck but luck doesn't always work. Therefore it is possible to control everything by accepting one's mistakes and moving forward and trying to change one's own destiny.

Gambling can blind one easily; you make a win and you think you're in charge, then you keep on gambling till you lose everything and your eyes open. So they are blinded to know that they cannot control their self at this point then they call it fate, you cannot even tell them they are wrong. In fact, most people make their decision before they gamble. They'll state how much they want to make and when they make it so easily, they break their rule and want to make more money, which eventually leads to losing all.

[Pamadar]

Gambling can blind one easily; you make a win and you think you're in charge, then you keep on gambling till you lose everything and your eyes open.

That bad turnaround will make your eyes open. The problem, most of the time,

it's too late and you are already addicted and you lose a lot or worse you lose everything from your savings.

So they are blinded to know that they cannot control their self at this point then they call it fate, you cannot even tell them they are wrong.

You can't. They think they know what they're doing and they are in control but the action

that you notice is different from how they believe that they are still good. They will only accept when they already
broke and nothing left for them to continue playing.

In fact, most people make their decision before they gamble. They'll state how much they want to make and when they make it so easily, they break their rule and want to make more money, which eventually leads to losing all.

It's reality. At first, they are good but along the way when experience to win, the aggressions to ask for more drives them to keep on playing.

Out of control starts when mindsets are fully occupied with every gambling activity that they desire to do.

[Peanutswar]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

Whether there is fate or not, you still have to try so, it's up to what they say with their defeat whether it's because of fate or lack of control. It doesn't matter how much effort or effort you put in a process to achieve victory, because when your fate is unlucky then still, the big efforts you make will still be in vain, right. So, we can't blame those who say their defeat was due to fate because after all, fate itself is true.

This is the reason even though the player or the gambler already know their chances of losses still they want to fight and gamble because if the game is still currently running there's a chance of having another turn table to get a comeback and win.  Not all the time there's a chance to win a game sometimes it's already lost but there's a denial they think for another chance of winning. This is the reason why gambling is one of the most easiest way to earn money and the easiest ways to waste money.

[Dragonfund]

We do not have to force them, but we can advise them, especially if they are in trouble. Yes, it is hard to recover from the addiction to gambling, but we should try for them so they know that we care for them and want to help them solve their problem. I am sure we can cure the addicted because everyone does not want to have the worst experience. The first thing that we should do is change their habits daily, giving them a new habit to do.

Closeness to a gambler is essential, and offering advice to a gambler who has lost is one of the most difficult things to do. A gambler does not listen to anybody, but because they are closer to loved ones, they will always listen to them, with the exception of those who have fully lost.
I've met a gambler who would listen to anyone's advice, but as soon as they attempt to assist them to get back on their feet, they generally go back to gambling, believing they'll try again, and the cycle continues.
They are always like, trust let me try this the last time and because of eagerness and greediness, strategies are usually lost.

[Wakate]

LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

Fate is power especially when it comes to people that are religious in nature, doing things and believing that there fate will always set them free, giving them luck that can attract more luck when it comes to gambling. Gambling does not only works with fate but also luck which is the influence that is pulled by fate.
 

[LUCKMCFLY]

We do not have to force them, but we can advise them, especially if they are in trouble. Yes, it is hard to recover from the addiction to gambling, but we should try for them so they know that we care for them and want to help them solve their problem. I am sure we can cure the addicted because everyone does not want to have the worst experience. The first thing that we should do is change their habits daily, giving them a new habit to do.

Yes, you are right in what you say, what happens is that not all people have family or people who advise them in a good way, however there are people who only react when they lose everything, this has a lot to do with the type of personality of each one, some who have obligations cannot afford to lose, especially those who are responsible and head of the family, there are also others who do not even care, some seek help from psychologists, others simply jump into it. I forget it, but I think that when you are of legal age, you decide what you want to be, and it is very easy to fall, and it is only heroes to get up to get ahead, I think that life always puts obstacles that can be overcome.

[xSkylarx]

LMAO, there is no such thing is "fate" when it comes to gambling or anything period as far as I am concerned.  That's like using the saying "everything happens for a reason".  It amazes me that people literally believe that.  Gambling is two part..both skill and luck, but there is not fate involved. Let's be real here.

Fate is power especially when it comes to people that are religious in nature, doing things and believing that there fate will always set them free, giving them luck that can attract more luck when it comes to gambling. Gambling does not only works with fate but also luck which is the influence that is pulled by fate.
 

Yes, it is more religious people, and I believe it is their destiny to win this game or the pot money, but it was just their thoughts, and there was nothing wrong with them. It's the same as their expression. It's like when we say gambling is all about luck, but that's just our opinion; you'll say it's a combination of skill and luck. Everything is fine because we each have our own viewpoint on life. What's the point of not having fate if it's free and can boost your morale?

[traderethereum]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

Whether there is fate or not, you still have to try so, it's up to what they say with their defeat whether it's because of fate or lack of control. It doesn't matter how much effort or effort you put in a process to achieve victory, because when your fate is unlucky then still, the big efforts you make will still be in vain, right. So, we can't blame those who say their defeat was due to fate because after all, fate itself is true.

All of you are right but in a different perception or view because fate is exists but it is not happen yet if we are not yet doing something.
But in this matter, maybe fate will follow behind us when we decide to do something and when we playing gambling, our fate will come to us at the end of the game and the result will always come with a win or lose.
Out of that, if we lack control, we will lose in gambling and our fate will come with losing the money and the regret will also come to us and vice versa.
Maybe fate is nothing to do with gambling but it will happen in the end and that will also happen if we do other things. Fate will show what we will get later.

[Silberman]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

I concur, I understand that there are those that are deeply philosophical and could see on what they do the hand of fate having a say, but most people are not like that, when I see people blaming fate for something bad it happened to them most of the time what is really happening is that they are trying to point the finger at something and they have nothing else but fate to point at, they are trying to avoid the responsibility of their actions and unfortunately that leads them to make the same mistakes over and over again.

[coupable]

Some people have a hard time admitting that they made a mistake and it resulted in losing large amounts of money when gambling. Then the simplest
way is to blame other things, because humans are basically difficult to admit their mistakes. If everyone could realize his mistakes and try to correct
them, there might not be much commotion in this world. In fact, if we do an investigation, most people are brave enough to admit their mistakes and
try to fix them. So these people mostly become successful people in life, as well as in the world of gambling, us to become responsible gamblers need
to introspect with the mistakes we have made. Don't blame fate for all the losses we experience when gambling, sometimes we lose control when
gambling and continue to be obsessed with winning. That's the problem why many people become addicted, they don't realize their own mistakes.

If we go deep into that investigation, those people who are brave enough to admit their mistakes in life are not gamblers and many of them aren't ready to play any bet in his whole life. Addicted people are always the ones with the highest level of self-confidence, thinking that they are the lucky ones to win everytime they want.
Feeling special and lucky when winning is the main factor for someone to be obsessed by gambling winnings. Those people become blind to realize their own mistakes and learn from it, so they easly get into lack of control in a compulsive gambling.
In fact, relegious people aren't also able to learn from their own mistakes in gambling and practice a moderated gambling, as they think their god is in control of everything and whether they win or lose it's the willing of god so no need to stop playing until god wants.

[worldofcoins]

If gambling was a guaranteed winning business most gambling companies would have folder long ago. Have you taken your time to consider how the get the funds to pay their winners. The arithmetic is quite simple. They take from lost games to pay games won and the percentage of winning to losses is always high which helps them maintain their business

Well, the success of the gambling business lies in who's gambling and who's providing the tools to gamble and who's testing their luck, and who's proving them to test their luck on.

Now the main reason for the gambling model to succeed lies in Users testing their luck and human nature is once they find success in something they do it again and again.
And once that happens users maybe win once or twice but they'll develop this habit of gambling which will be hard to get rid of.

[agg2702]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

Whether there is fate or not, you still have to try so, it's up to what they say with their defeat whether it's because of fate or lack of control. It doesn't matter how much effort or effort you put in a process to achieve victory, because when your fate is unlucky then still, the big efforts you make will still be in vain, right. So, we can't blame those who say their defeat was due to fate because after all, fate itself is true.

That's right, destiny is what we decide and whatever we do is actually not related to destiny. destiny is just an excuse to make things as if they have to be, but basically it is humans who create their own destiny regardless of whether it is good or not they are the ones who decide.
especially here, in gambling our actions are not entirely destiny but they are choices. the possible choice is that we change that destiny.
and the choice of two wins and loses regardless of the addiction or not destiny has nothing to do with it.
What makes destiny connected is because humans themselves don't want to blame themselves and look for scapegoats with the nickname destiny

[Mahanton]

No such thing as fate, that meant that everything that happens to you, you deserve it when in reality it's not. I don't know if it's been said in this thread already but the people that blames the unseen forces/fictional personas for their downfall in gambling and losses are people that are afraid of themselves and doesn't have the capability to carry the responsibility of their actions. Afraid of themselves because they can't believe that they're responsible to their own actions.

i agree, it seems to me that it is a way to avoid the harsh truth, the truth that we've made a mistake and it's our fault, it is really hard for a human being to accept he's wrong easily, we always try to find something else that can take the blame for us, and in this case people say it's faith which is for me an easy one to avoid taking the blame no wonder why a lot of people say it all the time.

I concur, I understand that there are those that are deeply philosophical and could see on what they do the hand of fate having a say, but most people are not like that, when I see people blaming fate for something bad it happened to them most of the time what is really happening is that they are trying to point the finger at something and they have nothing else but fate to point at, they are trying to avoid the responsibility of their actions and unfortunately that leads them to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Natural for some people who cant just accept losses and really took out some blame into someone or something just for them to wash their hands that they hadnt committed any mistake.
And this would continue into their future gambling activity and would have the same impression and blaming into the same thing.Fate is something you are the ones you do make off
and its not a fixed one but rather a dynamic which would really be basing up on the things that you've been doing.

[Natsuu]

If gambling was a guaranteed winning business most gambling companies would have folder long ago. Have you taken your time to consider how the get the funds to pay their winners. The arithmetic is quite simple. They take from lost games to pay games won and the percentage of winning to losses is always high which helps them maintain their business

Well, the success of the gambling business lies in who's gambling and who's providing the tools to gamble and who's testing their luck, and who's proving them to test their luck on.

Now the main reason for the gambling model to succeed lies in Users testing their luck and human nature is once they find success in something they do it again and again.
And once that happens users maybe win once or twice but they'll develop this habit of gambling which will be hard to get rid of.

Indeed, an operating gambling business is also always at risk of getting bankrupt when luck is all on the sides of the player, but this risks are also being considered by the operators and that risk is very very low up to the point of it is not even a situation you will think of. Plus gambling businesses always check the winners if the wins is just by luck or by something else, cause a gambling is doom for bankruptcy if added skills are put in to action.

[goldkingcoiner]

You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

[Fredomago]

Natural for some people who cant just accept losses and really took out some blame into someone or something just for them to wash their hands that they hadnt committed any mistake.

Pointing fingers are normal with people who have that kind of attitude, they don't want to admit that they already lose a lot
and they can no longer control their gambling activities.

And this would continue into their future gambling activity and would have the same impression and blaming into the same thing.

The more they lose, the more they will put blame to others, they will only realize that the amount they burned is no longer
acceptable when they already lose everything inside thier savings.

Fate is something you are the ones you do make off and its not a fixed one but rather a dynamic which would really be basing up on the things that you've been doing.

Not fixed, you are the one who's creating your fate. In this business nothing is certain, but if you are wise enough
you will take every opportunities that luck gives you to enjoy your profits.

[Russlenat]

You can't really expect fate and lack of control be one and the same. Fate has many roads but you get to pick which one of those roads you go down. As for me, gambling can be fun and if you make a winning, yay for you. And if you lose, then thats just the price for the fun you had. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Either you have money to lose or you don't. Making excuses to go against this rule will get you everytime.

The only thing I know is that your actions dictate your fate, so if you have lack of control in gambling, you would know what your fate will be in the future, and don't expect you will not face a problem. Gambling is risky for people who lack discipline, that's why it's very important to understand the risk so we will have any problem in managing it.