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March 30, 2021, 03:45:23 PM
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I would rather agree with 'Dice depend on luck'...
If we believe playing gambling is fate, was your life created to play gambling? playing gambling and then winning/losing is not fate but your choice or luck. when playing dice I often lose or win accidentally, therefore I believe that winning/losing at gambling is not fate but your luck. *therefore you must have control over yourself and your choices, do not lack control



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March 30, 2021, 04:19:45 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

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March 30, 2021, 11:22:04 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

that!
unless people don't care about the money they're throwing at gambling this is the kind of thinking to have approaching games
what are the odds? can I really make money out of a determined game? or is it just for fun and I don't care about the outcomes?

these are some of the questions to ask.

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March 31, 2021, 05:54:33 AM
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I would rather agree with 'Dice depend on luck'...
If we believe playing gambling is fate, was your life created to play gambling? playing gambling and then winning/losing is not fate but your choice or luck. when playing dice I often lose or win accidentally, therefore I believe that winning/losing at gambling is not fate but your luck. *therefore you must have control over yourself and your choices, do not lack control
Dice isn't about luck it is about mathematics which involves chances or probability and to some degree physics, we just can't comprehend dice with numbers so we think that it is because of luck because that is an easy thing to explain than the numbers involved. Fate is a construct that humans made to remove themselves from the results of their actions so in short fate is just an excuse because you don't have the balls to accept that it is you that is at fault.

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March 31, 2021, 08:33:55 AM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

Nice one there. Those who taught mathematics at school well, should focus on sports betting, or even better - financial jobs (but we are talking about gambling here).
On the topic. Dice is just luck, IMO. Pure luck. If you do it, do it for fun, otherwise, the lack of control could have a terrible outcome.
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March 31, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

Nice one there. Those who taught mathematics at school well, should focus on sports betting, or even better - financial jobs (but we are talking about gambling here).
On the topic. Dice is just luck, IMO. Pure luck. If you do it, do it for fun, otherwise, the lack of control could have a terrible outcome.

this comes with the ethernal dillema of pure luck games (you can call probability if you wish) and skill-based games
probably you wouldn't want to dedicatea whole life to pure luck, but if youre playing something that relies on skill it can be improved over time and mastered.

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March 31, 2021, 04:12:05 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

Nice one there. Those who taught mathematics at school well, should focus on sports betting, or even better - financial jobs (but we are talking about gambling here).
On the topic. Dice is just luck, IMO. Pure luck. If you do it, do it for fun, otherwise, the lack of control could have a terrible outcome.

this comes with the ethernal dillema of pure luck games (you can call probability if you wish) and skill-based games
probably you wouldn't want to dedicatea whole life to pure luck, but if youre playing something that relies on skill it can be improved over time and mastered.

In skills based gambling you always have a better chance of improving your knowledge, there are system that you can follow and
do some twist to favor your side.

In the other hand, with luck based gambling, you are always relying with good control of your emotions, most of the time
it kills you whenever you lose control and keep betting till your bankroll's already emptied.

It's all matter with your decision making and hope you deal with your gambling activities.

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March 31, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

Nice one there. Those who taught mathematics at school well, should focus on sports betting, or even better - financial jobs (but we are talking about gambling here).
On the topic. Dice is just luck, IMO. Pure luck. If you do it, do it for fun, otherwise, the lack of control could have a terrible outcome.
Dice is very common among new gamblers due to the fact they think long loss streaks will never happen, so they play in a *safe* way, with a low base bet and big bankroll. And actually it's not possible to realize 10 or even 20 losses can happen in sequence without seeing it happening for the first time for real in front of your eyes. It's something the person has to try by himself to learn or he won't believe.
However things start turning out of control when the gambler has the experience, knows how the game works and that the long loss streak comes sooner or later, but he keeps playing in order to recover the previous losses until he finally loses his last penny. This lack of control must be avoided.

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March 31, 2021, 05:15:17 PM
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IMO it's always a lack of control that makes one lose in gambling, no matter what games you are playing: dice, roulette, poker, etc. There's no strategy with dice and roulette and there's only little strategy in poker, but many things still depend on luck.
The thing is, that the only "strategies" that may help you save money in games like dice and prevent big losses are actually based on keeping control of your savings. So if you can control yourself and do whatever is logical (like when you win big - stop playing, or save up 60-70% of your wins and play with the rest) you won't need any strategies.
I agree that the lack of control was always the reason why a gambler loses in gambling most especially in a gambling that needs a skill and not pure luck-based like dice or poker or even casino that is why a strong self control in this kind of gambling was necessarily. These games are different from roulette which it is a pure-luck base game you either win or lose here but nothing so sure because you just drag the wheel down to circulate.
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March 31, 2021, 07:38:49 PM
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Are there gamblers that are not aware of the risk that they do when they gamble? It's impossible that they're ignoring that fact or they're making themselves not aware of it.
Every gambler is aware that gambling has risk and as they gamble, they're taking it no matter what game they play.
Yes, of course. That will come to the new gambler who does not know to gamble, and they only know about gambling as an activity that uses the money to win money. The new gambler knows that they can lose their money, but I am not sure they will know about that for the details about gambling. A gambler who has experience will know about that because he got that while he gambles for some time. Some of them will ignore the fact because of the fun of gambling.
I don't think that even the new gamblers are not aware of the risk that they will be taking as they gamble. All gamblers new or not are aware that the risk is there and it's odd to know that even the newer ones doesn't understand the risk that they'll be having upon gambling. And as you're saying about the new gamblers know that they can lose their money, that's already the risk that I'm saying that's why it's hard to believe that new or not gamblers, they don't know the risk that gambling has.

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IMO it's always a lack of control that makes one lose in gambling, no matter what games you are playing: dice, roulette, poker, etc. There's no strategy with dice and roulette and there's only little strategy in poker, but many things still depend on luck.
The thing is, that the only "strategies" that may help you save money in games like dice and prevent big losses are actually based on keeping control of your savings. So if you can control yourself and do whatever is logical (like when you win big - stop playing, or save up 60-70% of your wins and play with the rest) you won't need any strategies.
Strategies that rely on controlling your luck will never work because as we know it is impossible to control the random element of the games, the only thing that you can control in a gambling game is yourself, so if you do not want to experience big losses then the best way to do this is by not gambling with an amount of money that you're not willing to lose, if you happen to do that then the amount of money that you will lose will always be small and you will have no reason to be mad because the fun that you got out of the games is going to be worth the small amount of money that you spent.



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April 01, 2021, 12:06:14 PM
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IMO it's always a lack of control that makes one lose in gambling, no matter what games you are playing: dice, roulette, poker, etc. There's no strategy with dice and roulette and there's only little strategy in poker, but many things still depend on luck.
The thing is, that the only "strategies" that may help you save money in games like dice and prevent big losses are actually based on keeping control of your savings. So if you can control yourself and do whatever is logical (like when you win big - stop playing, or save up 60-70% of your wins and play with the rest) you won't need any strategies.
Strategies that rely on controlling your luck will never work because as we know it is impossible to control the random element of the games, the only thing that you can control in a gambling game is yourself, so if you do not want to experience big losses then the best way to do this is by not gambling with an amount of money that you're not willing to lose, if you happen to do that then the amount of money that you will lose will always be small and you will have no reason to be mad because the fun that you got out of the games is going to be worth the small amount of money that you spent.

Okay, assume they know the risk before they play, but they still play gambling, and if they lose several times, they are not thinking about stopping gambling instead of continuing to play gambling. So that does not make sense that they still playing gambling because, in the next rounds, they can lose more money. They know the risk, but they do not stop. If you know the risk, it is better to stop than continue playing gambling. They know the risk or they forget the risk? Grin

Maybe they really want to take a higher risk and does not want to be bored while they are gambling. Actually, every gambler has different risk level tolerance, some are ready to risk everything they have but they can still accept their loses. If I go in a casino, I bring money to gamble, and I will not stop until I win my target or I lose it all, that's the only possible outcome.

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April 01, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
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I would not recommend dice to anyone. Now Dice has a very large range of numbers, usually 10,000 numbers. There is a fairly high probability of not hitting the 50/50 numbers 20+ times. Those who taught mathematics at school do not play Dice.

Nice one there. Those who taught mathematics at school well, should focus on sports betting, or even better - financial jobs (but we are talking about gambling here).
On the topic. Dice is just luck, IMO. Pure luck. If you do it, do it for fun, otherwise, the lack of control could have a terrible outcome.

this comes with the ethernal dillema of pure luck games (you can call probability if you wish) and skill-based games
probably you wouldn't want to dedicatea whole life to pure luck, but if youre playing something that relies on skill it can be improved over time and mastered.

In skills based gambling you always have a better chance of improving your knowledge, there are system that you can follow and
do some twist to favor your side.

In the other hand, with luck based gambling, you are always relying with good control of your emotions, most of the time
it kills you whenever you lose control and keep betting till your bankroll's already emptied.

It's all matter with your decision making and hope you deal with your gambling activities.

definitely, that's a nice topic to discuss
makes sense that with pure luck games you can only control your risk management and emotions so you don't go broke, but you can still have an 'unluck sequence' of bets and lose it all, that's why imiting available bankroll for that is a must

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April 01, 2021, 03:41:50 PM
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definitely, that's a nice topic to discuss
makes sense that with pure luck games you can only control your risk management and emotions so you don't go broke, but you can still have an 'unluck sequence' of bets and lose it all, that's why imiting available bankroll for that is a must
Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.

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definitely, that's a nice topic to discuss
makes sense that with pure luck games you can only control your risk management and emotions so you don't go broke, but you can still have an 'unluck sequence' of bets and lose it all, that's why imiting available bankroll for that is a must
Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.
Gambling games that rely on luck are only excessive curiosity and make you feel like you want to continue playing out of curiosity.
without realizing what you do will gradually drain the money you have and you have to be able to control it because that is the allure of the game of luck, having a curiosity that keeps you playing.
when luck is on its side, people don't realize how many defeats have been missed, and self-control should be on us when we start playing.

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definitely, that's a nice topic to discuss
makes sense that with pure luck games you can only control your risk management and emotions so you don't go broke, but you can still have an 'unluck sequence' of bets and lose it all, that's why imiting available bankroll for that is a must
Controlling ourselves in gambling will be above everything because that is one thing that we must have. Otherwise, we will lose everything that we have. But it can be a fate for us to losing money from gambling, especially if we do not remember when to stop playing gambling. We must realize that playing gambling can make us losing money slowly or faster, depend on how much money we use to bet.
But sadly people do missed it out because they do let their greed control them and blaming time do happen and attaching things about their fate but to be honest this had nothing to do with fate.

You are the ones who are making it basing off into the actions you are making and which would be the main reason for the results that you are experiencing.

Lack of control is the sole reason and you should blame out yourself for that but once you had been fucked up with gambling then that's the time you would eventually learn up some lessons.

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April 02, 2021, 02:40:52 AM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling.
i only heard this for limited persons
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Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.
While this is mostly what People says specially from those who really Knows how to Deal with gambling , that it is their lack of control that makes them loss.
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Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.
I really don't see the Logic why a gambler will admit that it is fate to lose or win ? Nah i don't believe this one.
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What is the truth in this regard, because users like me are always go lack of control even when luck is on our side. End of the day used to pacify thyself terming it as our fate and move on. Hope you guys don't do this mistake. Cry Cry
We Will Win if we Know how to manage controlling our desires and demand, Gambling is a Game of disciplined people and not those aggressive one.

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April 02, 2021, 10:55:32 PM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling.
i only heard this for limited persons
Only gambler don't understand the major attribute of gambling will give such a lame excuse

While this is mostly what People says specially from those who really Knows how to Deal with gambling , that it is their lack of control that makes them loss.
Point of correction, any gambler that lost or lack control of himself during the game didn't know how to deal with gambling and it just another lame excuse and not accepting the fact they can't gambling profitable.


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April 04, 2021, 01:55:22 AM
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Strategies that rely on controlling your luck will never work because as we know it is impossible to control the random element of the games, the only thing that you can control in a gambling game is yourself, so if you do not want to experience big losses then the best way to do this is by not gambling with an amount of money that you're not willing to lose, if you happen to do that then the amount of money that you will lose will always be small and you will have no reason to be mad because the fun that you got out of the games is going to be worth the small amount of money that you spent.

Okay, assume they know the risk before they play, but they still play gambling, and if they lose several times, they are not thinking about stopping gambling instead of continuing to play gambling. So that does not make sense that they still playing gambling because, in the next rounds, they can lose more money. They know the risk, but they do not stop. If you know the risk, it is better to stop than continue playing gambling. They know the risk or they forget the risk? Grin
I think it is both, a person will need to be extremely ignorant about gambling to not know that the casino has an edge over them, we all know that, so why people still keep losing more money than what they are willing to lose when they gamble despite knowing this obvious fact? And the answer is very simple, people are not rational every single second of the day, we take a lot of decisions based on our emotions and while there are circumstances in which that is the correct thing to do, like when you decide who you are going to marry, there are also many circumstances in which this is incorrect like in gambling.



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April 04, 2021, 03:05:39 AM
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Hmmm there's really nothing that's "out of control" for us, but if you were to attribute it to your sole being, then there'd be a LOT of stuff that's going to be out of control since humans weren't supposed to receive blessings or suffer disasters alone. As for relating it to gambling, ngl, that's your sole responsibility. Fate or whatnot doesn't even affect it at ALL. I mean, if you were to attribute losing to "fate", then I suppose so, but if you were to attribute losing money to "fate"? Then that's already wrong.

We Will Win if we Know how to manage controlling our desires and demand, Gambling is a Game of disciplined people and not those aggressive one.
No gambling is a game of mature and understanding people
Gambling is a game people, whether they be stupid or mature, anyone can play it, and they can both win. Aggressive ones don't win? BS. Disciplined ones don't win? BS. They both win, that's why luck is always fair, it always looks out to everyone equally.

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