OSCARS 2021- Nominees, Odds and Predictions!

[bryant.coleman]

Another storyline for the winner of the best actress category might be because of black lives matter, the academy might vote for Viola Davis or Andra Day and have a black woman as the best actress of the year hehe. Their odds are 3.17 and 6.17.

Sad to see a prestigious event such as Oscar now purely becoming a political event. The award for the best actress should be given to the individual who had given the best performance. I am not a big fan of either Viola Davis or Andra Day, but I will be having no issue if they are being given the award on the basis of performance. But here this entire award ceremony is being relegated to a joke, and the winners are decided on the basis of political preference and not on the basis of their acting skills. 

[joker_josue]

Another storyline for the winner of the best actress category might be because of black lives matter, the academy might vote for Viola Davis or Andra Day and have a black woman as the best actress of the year hehe. Their odds are 3.17 and 6.17.

Sad to see a prestigious event such as Oscar now purely becoming a political event. The award for the best actress should be given to the individual who had given the best performance. I am not a big fan of either Viola Davis or Andra Day, but I will be having no issue if they are being given the award on the basis of performance. But here this entire award ceremony is being relegated to a joke, and the winners are decided on the basis of political preference and not on the basis of their acting skills. 

Unfortunately, I have to agree. But this, in my opinion, has been going on for several years.
I don't always win the best, and it is possible to find several critics of the cinema talking about it.

However, this is a problem that is increasingly affecting society in general, in the most varied areas. More and more people are looking at socio-cultural elements, rather than housing. But this is another debate.

[Sithara007]

Unfortunately, I have to agree. But this, in my opinion, has been going on for several years.
I don't always win the best, and it is possible to find several critics of the cinema talking about it.

However, this is a problem that is increasingly affecting society in general, in the most varied areas. More and more people are looking at socio-cultural elements, rather than housing. But this is another debate.

In the longer run, it will ruin the reputation of the awards. Look at the Nobel peace prize. No one takes it seriously nowadays, because a lot of underserving people have been given the award. The Hollywood movie industry itself is in a poor state for the last one and half years due to the pandemic. Injection of political propaganda (beyond a certain limit) is not going to do any good. Even previously there was a lot of controversy surrounding the prizes awarded to films such as Schindler's List and Crash. 

[AndySt]

Unfortunately, I have to agree. But this, in my opinion, has been going on for several years.
I don't always win the best, and it is possible to find several critics of the cinema talking about it.
However, this is a problem that is increasingly affecting society in general, in the most varied areas. More and more people are looking at socio-cultural elements, rather than housing. But this is another debate.

In the longer run, it will ruin the reputation of the awards. Look at the Nobel peace prize. No one takes it seriously nowadays, because a lot of underserving people have been given the award. The Hollywood movie industry itself is in a poor state for the last one and half years due to the pandemic. Injection of political propaganda (beyond a certain limit) is not going to do any good. Even previously there was a lot of controversy surrounding the prizes awarded to films such as Schindler's List and Crash.  

Politics has always been present in art, the most important thing is that art also remains. It's just that the world has gone mad and at times they are judged not by the quality of the work, but by the actions of its author in real life. By the way, there may indeed be disputes about the subject matter of such a film as Schindler's List, but the film itself as a work of art is technically made quite soundly, which is often not enough for new projects. I understand perfectly well that a work of art (not always) should reflect reality in all its diversity, but make it mandatory or destroy the career of artists for unfashionable words from the ruling class or for speeches that have been said for a long time, about which a person has long changed his opinion...

[Stalker22]

I was blown away by The Father; at first, it seemed that the various scenarios will slow down the entire film and that too much time will be wasted in distinguishing the real from the imaginary, but it soon becomes clear that it doesn't matter at all. Anthony Hopkins' brilliance anchors the entire film.

[Rikafip]

Injection of political propaganda (beyond a certain limit) is not going to do any good. Even previously there was a lot of controversy surrounding the prizes awarded to films such as Schindler's List and Crash.  

While I agree that Crash win was controversial as there were few clearly better movies nominated that year (Brokeback Mountain, Capote, Good night and good luck) I don't remember anything of that sorts surrounding Schindler's List. As a mater of act, I think that this is the first time I hear someone saying that about Schindler's List.

When you look at the competition that year (The Fugitive, In the Name of the Father, The Piano and The Remains of the Day), only maybe In the Name of the Father comes relatively close. All other films can't simply match Steven Spielberg's masterpiece. Tehnical part of the movie was superb, and on top of that both Lian Neeson and especially Ralph Fiennes (he should have an an Oscar for his brilliant portray of Amon Goeth) probably had career roles.

I was blown away by The Father; at first, it seemed that the various scenarios will slow down the entire film and that too much time will be wasted in distinguishing the real from the imaginary, but it soon becomes clear that it doesn't matter at all. Anthony Hopkins' brilliance anchors the entire film.

Yep, it is a shame that Hopkins won't probably win an Oscar for this. Despite the odds I think I will bet some money on him, just in case he wins by some miracle.

[Sithara007]

^^^ Hmm... I was wrong about Schindler's List. I guess I was too much biased towards In the Name of the Father.

BTW, there is a surprise. The Oscar for Best Actor this year is won by Sir Anthony Hopkins!!! That was completely unexpected, but I am glad for him. No one deserved the award better than him. He was simply outstanding in The Father. The best actress award was won by Frances McDormand (Nomadland). And as expected, Nomadland is chosen as the best picture. In most cases, I have to say that this year's awards were won by deserving people.

Yep, it is a shame that Hopkins won't probably win an Oscar for this. Despite the odds I think I will bet some money on him, just in case he wins by some miracle.

LOL.. did you put any money on him?

[Rikafip]

^^^ Hmm... I was wrong about Schindler's List. I guess I was too much biased towards In the Name of the Father.

In the Name of the Father is a fine film, no questions about that, but for me Schindler's List is a masterpiece, and that's what separates those two. I was jist surprised when you said that is undeserving as that's the first time I heard that, while Crash gets mentioned all the time in that context.

BTW, there is a surprise. The Oscar for Best Actor this year is won by Sir Anthony Hopkins!!! That was completely unexpected, but I am glad for him. No one deserved the award better than him. He was simply outstanding in The Father. The best actress award was won by Frances McDormand (Nomadland). And as expected, Nomadland is chosen as the best picture. In most cases, I have to say that this year's awards were won by deserving people.

Yep, great thing about Hopkins winning an Oscar, academy did the right thing for a change and awarded truly the best performance this year.

LOL.. did you put any money on him?

Unfortunately not, I was so busy last few days that I completely forgot to bet on this. But still, I don't mind as I am glad to see that the right person won. And as I mentioned in the beginning of this thread, Boseman turned out to be a bad bet, with only 1.08 odds. I hope that people didn't put much on that one.

Why betting on Chadwik Boseman for the best actor award would be a "bad bet"?

I wouldn't bet on Chadwick Boseman winning the Oscar not because I don't think that he will win it (on the contrary, seems like he is obviously the the favorite) but because odds given are way too low. With odds ranging from 1.05-1.08 you would have to bet a lot to get any decent return, and I think that risk/reward ratio in this case ain't good at all, therefore making it a bad bet.

If odds were let's say 1.3-1.4, then I would certainly think about taking that bet, but with 1.08? No chance! I generally avoid such a low odds, no matter what I am betting on. Too many times lost while taking sub 1.1 odds not to learn the lesson.

2021 Oscar winners
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/04/2021-oscars-winners-list-academy-awards-1234631270/

[bryant.coleman]

OK guys.. congratulations for all those who made the bet in favor of Anthony Hopkins. It was a completely unexpected, but 100% deserving win by the great actor. And I don't think that too many people made a bet on Chadwick Boseman, because the odds were really low. Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. 

[joker_josue]

Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. 

Yes, those were also my predictions.
The films this year were almost all at the same level, and could not win films from the streaming platforms.

It turned out to be a ceremonial with few surprises.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

[blue Snow]

Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time. 

Yes, those were also my predictions.
The films this year were almost all at the same level, and could not win films from the streaming platforms.

It turned out to be a ceremonial with few surprises.

sure, nomaland is really the best picture, I like this film and both with Frances McDormand which I fan with him either. So, until now, Frances has collected 3 oscar all as best actress. Only two people who had a winning as a lead actor or actress, Daniel Day-Lewis and Frances McDormand. however, who got the winner betting nomaland and McDormand?.

[aesma]

The movie The Father by Florian Zeller, who won best script and best actor, is an interesting case. Florian Zeller directed it, but he also wrote the script, from his own original French play Le Père, which in turn has been made into a French movie in 2015, Floride, but without Florian Zeller.

So this isn't a remake of a French movie, but it's an adaptation of a French play. I wonder if it's the first oscar won by such a movie. I know Cyrano de Bergerac (1990) was poised to win big but lost due to a controversy. I see it still won an oscar for best costume so I guess that counts anyway.

Of course this one is an English language movie so it's not exactly the same.

[Saint-loup]

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

[STT]

Cyrano de Bergerac (1990)

Liked that one alot at the time but never would have thought it was a serious contender for an oscar.   The Father I thought might sneak a win because it is such a contentious issue (purely my opinion I dont think of it as a winning subject), as a plain movie its so far away from traditional blockbuster.  It is a play more then a movie really, but either way its very well done and I dont disagree with the award especially with Hopkins who rarely does a poor effort whatever he is handed.
    I dont see Oscars as political but its nothing new they will always have a greater theme to their awards, if that isnt there then people can be upset the film content itself is not judged purely.

[Lorence.xD]

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

It's not like every people has to automatically win the award, I am sure he deserves the award but if there are other actors who have performed much better than Chadwick then I am pretty sure that it is alright that he didn't posthumously awarded.

[Sithara007]

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

The jurors did the right thing IMO. The award should be given for the best performance, and not based on emotions. IMO, Anthony Hopkins deserved that award more than anyone else. Chadwick Boseman is a good actor, but his performance was not as good as the one from Hopkins in The Father. Overall, this time the awards were fair. IMO, there is not much of a chance for complaining by anyone. The jurors did an exceptional job in selecting the best nominations for awards.

[Juggy777]

The big surprise was that Chadwick Boseman couldn't win the award for the best actor, for his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom. He had odds of 1.06-1.08. Looking at the odds, I was all but certain that the prize would go to him. Anthony Hopkins had odds of 8.00, but he managed to win the award for his performance in The Father. Others (Riz Ahmed, Steven Yeun.etc) never had any serious odds.

Similarly, Nomadland had odds of 1.15 for winning the prize for the best picture. The only movie to offer any meaningful competition was The Trial of the Chicago.

Yes it has been a big surprise to not see Chadwick Boseman awarded by a posthumous Oscar, commentators and journalists have been really surprised by that according to their articles. I also bet on him because he won the Golden Globe award of the best actor few weeks ago and because bookmakers (and everyone) seemed to be very confident in his victory.

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

Source:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

[bryant.coleman]

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

Source:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

Horrible decision? I don't think so. Anyone who have watched Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father would agree with the jury's decision. His performance was just mind blowing. Chadwick Boseman was a great actor. And his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom was terrific as well. But the award can be given only to one performance, and this time it was Hopkins who got the jury's nod.

[joker_josue]

@Visnu.Reang indeed it was a horrible decision to not award the late Chadwick Boseman with the award, and no matter of justification can do justice for their decision. @Saint-loup while I hadn’t wagered on this event, but if I had wagered then I would have wagered the same way you did, because I too felt that they would award him, but sadly they stunned us all.

Source:

https://www.tmz.com/2021/04/26/chadwick-boseman-oscars-snub-reactions-anthony-hopkins/

Horrible decision? I don't think so. Anyone who have watched Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father would agree with the jury's decision. His performance was just mind blowing. Chadwick Boseman was a great actor. And his performance in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom was terrific as well. But the award can be given only to one performance, and this time it was Hopkins who got the jury's nod.

But I think it was expected that he doesn't win himself! It was a film produced by a streaming platform.
Streaming platforms continue to be the ugly duckling of Hollywood.

They nominate films from streaming platforms, and occasionally give awards from technical categories, so as not to be further accused of being account for these platforms. But sooner or later, they will have to accept the fact that streaming platforms are a reality, and end up receiving awards from the main categories.

On the other hand, personally, I think the prizes should be given in life. People should be valued when they are alive and not only after they die. Either way, he did an excellent job and unfortunately died before he got the chance.