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May 02, 2021, 03:26:05 PM
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I'm not aware that even the Oscar Nominees has odds and can placed bets on, I'm curious what gambling sites handles this kinds of events does all of the sports betting site have this kind of betting event?

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May 02, 2021, 07:23:53 PM
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I'm not aware that even the Oscar Nominees has odds and can placed bets on, I'm curious what gambling sites handles this kinds of events does all of the sports betting site have this kind of betting event?
That's nothing new really, I remember that in the late 90s when I started betting, Oscar was already included along with all other similar stuff like. Regarding where you can bet on Oscar, basically all top gambling sites offer that, so it won't be hard to find it next year, if you decide to bet on it.

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May 03, 2021, 02:42:06 AM
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Regarding your nonsense about "Netflix taking advantage and won in less important category", just a reminder for you that in 2019 Netflix's Roma won 3 Oscars; Alfonso Cuaron for best director, Best Foreign Language Film and best Cinematography. Are those also irrelevant categories too? In Best Documentary category this is their 3rd win for now, so no surprise either. And no, Best Documentary is not an irrelevant category.

So yeah, you should really check your facts before writing nonsense.

It is not a matter of nonsense, and an observation of how the results have been over the years, even before Netflix existed. Of course, it will always be based on my opinion.

This year that you mentioned, it was quite interesting, and ends up meeting what I think of what the Oscars have been like in the last few years.

Of course, the best film does not have to be the best director (although it seems strange ... but ok).
But, at least all the films selected in the "best film" category, you must have your directors also selected for that category! In my opinion, a film cannot be good if it does not have a good performance. So, if a film is nominated for the best, it is because the director did a great job (chosen team, filming, editing, photography, etc.), then he should also be nominated.

In 2019 the best film was won by Green Book (good film), so far so good.
But Peter Farrelly was not even nominated for the best director. Could he even lose, but not be nominated? So he makes the best film of the year for the academy, but he was not even considered one of the best directors? Does not make sense...

In fact, giving Alfonso Cuarón the award for best director for the film Roma was clear proof that perhaps Roma should have won the best film.
OK, it won as the best foreign film. But this is one more thing that doesn't make sense. So you put the same film in the category of best film and in the category of best foreign film? How do we look, is it an American film or a foreign film?
We can say that other awards, Roma were also nominated for these two categories. It is true. But where it happened (BAFTA 2019 & Critics' Choice Awards 2019), he won both.

In fact, it is easier to give the award for best director, because he makes films for various studios. Now, give an Oscar, for best film, for a production of digital platforms? It's harder. They still don't have the courage to do so. But one day, they will have to do it!

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May 03, 2021, 05:46:33 AM
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Regarding your nonsense about "Netflix taking advantage and won in less important category", just a reminder for you that in 2019 Netflix's Roma won 3 Oscars; Alfonso Cuaron for best director, Best Foreign Language Film and best Cinematography. Are those also irrelevant categories too? In Best Documentary category this is their 3rd win for now, so no surprise either. And no, Best Documentary is not an irrelevant category.

So yeah, you should really check your facts before writing nonsense.

In 2019 the best film was won by Green Book (good film), so far so good.
But Peter Farrelly was not even nominated for the best director. Could he even lose, but not be nominated? So he makes the best film of the year for the academy, but he was not even considered one of the best directors? Does not make sense...

Nominees are voted by other directors who are members of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science. Those members might not have liked Peter Farrelly that year because he is known for his comedies like There’s something about the Mary and The Heartbreak Kid which are vulgar with distasteful jokes.

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May 03, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
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In fact, giving Alfonso Cuarón the award for best director for the film Roma was clear proof that perhaps Roma should have won the best film.
OK, it won as the best foreign film. But this is one more thing that doesn't make sense. So you put the same film in the category of best film and in the category of best foreign film? How do we look, is it an American film or a foreign film?
For me, Roma was without the doubt much better film than Green Book, and it was the best movie of the year. I think that bigger problem than being Netflix movie was the fact that is non-English speaking movie, and Academy was reluctant to award such movie with Best Picture award, so they waited for the  next year and gave it to Parasite, therefore making the precedent.

You have to remember that Oscar is first and foremost award for American cinema, so its only natural that they want to protect their own film industry, but it is a good thing that they are changing, and with Parasite making that precedent it will be much easier for foreign movies to win he same award.


Nominees are voted by other directors who are members of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science. Those members might not have liked Peter Farrelly that year because he is known for his comedies like There’s something about the Mary and The Heartbreak Kid which are vulgar with distasteful jokes.
Yep, just wanted to write that directors are those who decide who will get nomination, and they obviously weren't impressed with Farrely and his work on Green Book. When it comes to award itself then everyone votes for every category.

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May 03, 2021, 06:14:25 PM
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I'm not aware that even the Oscar Nominees has odds

Just consider any widespread event with undeterminable outcomes will easily have a market for the risk vs bets possible on it.   Its a free market for companies to put up a book to bet on and take revenue and house cut of the take on such event, why would they choose to miss out on that.   Goes for almost anything, any sport any big known event especially if theres alot of anticipation and debate just so long as either side can win ideally.

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May 03, 2021, 06:53:15 PM
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For me, Roma was without the doubt much better film than Green Book, and it was the best movie of the year. I think that bigger problem than being Netflix movie was the fact that is non-English speaking movie, and Academy was reluctant to award such movie with Best Picture award, so they waited for the  next year and gave it to Parasite, therefore making the precedent.

You have to remember that Oscar is first and foremost award for American cinema, so its only natural that they want to protect their own film industry, but it is a good thing that they are changing, and with Parasite making that precedent it will be much easier for foreign movies to win he same award.

So why didn't they open this one at Roma? The question remains...
If the film is not American, why nominate for a category that should not win?

I don't say that they do that, exclusively because of Netflix. I have a pity, that in reality the winners, somehow end up being based on interests for the academy instead of the true quality.

And then this situation at Parasite was very strange.
Because even this year, they did not accept a film for the category of best foreign film, just because most of the lines were in English (because of a characteristic of the film's history) instead of being in the language of the country of origin.
But then we had a film winning the Oscar for best film (which should only be for American films) that only spoke Korean (and he wasn't even an American)...

It is this set of episodes at the Oscars that discredit this contest.

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Nominees are voted by other directors who are members of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science. Those members might not have liked Peter Farrelly that year because he is known for his comedies like There’s something about the Mary and The Heartbreak Kid which are vulgar with distasteful jokes.
Yep, just wanted to write that directors are those who decide who will get nomination, and they obviously weren't impressed with Farrely and his work on Green Book. When it comes to award itself then everyone votes for every category.

They were impressed with his work in Green Book, it won the best picture and best original screenplay categories for that year, however, the director’s guild in the academy did not want to give the honor of best director to the personality sitting on the director’s chair hehehe.

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