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April 27, 2021, 08:30:13 AM
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OK guys.. congratulations for all those who made the bet in favor of Anthony Hopkins. It was a completely unexpected, but 100% deserving win by the great actor. And I don't think that too many people made a bet on Chadwick Boseman, because the odds were really low. Nomadland won the award for the best picture (which was expected, but I thought that Minari was better). Anyway, not much to complain about the awards this time.  Grin
Yeah, one of those years where Academy didn't make any completely illogical decisions. We are going to wait for that to happen again for some time I think Cheesy


The jurors did the right thing IMO. The award should be given for the best performance, and not based on emotions. IMO, Anthony Hopkins deserved that award more than anyone else. Chadwick Boseman is a good actor, but his performance was not as good as the one from Hopkins in The Father. Overall, this time the awards were fair. IMO, there is not much of a chance for complaining by anyone. The jurors did an exceptional job in selecting the best nominations for awards.
Exactly this. Chadwick Boseman did a fine job, and he definitely deserved nomination he got, but Anthony Hopkins was simply brilliant in this movie, his best role since The Silence of the Lambs without any doubt. Who knows, maybe Academy voters saw those huge odds for Hopkins given by the bookies so they decided to bet and get some extra money  Cheesy. Just jk lole, I don't think that something like that is easy to organize as Aacdemy has more than 7,000 voters.



I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.


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April 27, 2021, 05:01:41 PM
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I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.


Yes, same here. Because of the time difference, I couldn't watch the live show, so I watched the rerun.

I hope they bring back a host/hostess or a host couple in the future. This hostless concept struck me as dull and unimaginative. I think, previous ceremonies were much better.

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April 27, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
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I just watched whole ceremony as I couldn't watch it live, and this was probably the worst one ever. Hopefully the next one will be in normal conditions.

Year 2021 was record low for Oscar awards with only 9.9 million viewers that is 58% lower than last year and I am not surprised about that considering all pandemic crazyness.
I am not surprised to see that 83 year old Anthony Hopkins received Oscar (betting odds 9 suggest that he was underdog to win this year award ) but it looks like he was not so much interested in this as he was resting in Wales and didn't want to travel anywhere.
I see that Tenet won award for best visual effects but I would give it one extra reward for best movie to watch when you want to go to sleep Smiley

Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.


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April 27, 2021, 07:12:59 PM
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Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.

I should have done ... I always had the opinion that he was going to win, but I didn't place bets on the Oscars... Undecided

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April 27, 2021, 08:56:36 PM
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I hope they bring back a host/hostess or a host couple in the future. This hostless concept struck me as dull and unimaginative. I think, previous ceremonies were much better.

What I would like to see is Ricky Gervais being the main host, so like the job that he did many times brilliantly for Golden Globes. That would certainly  increase the ratings and would make Oscar ceremony interesting once again but unfortunately chances of that happening in the future are slim to none.



Year 2021 was record low for Oscar awards with only 9.9 million viewers that is 58% lower than last year and I am not surprised about that considering all pandemic crazyness.
I am not surprised to see that 83 year old Anthony Hopkins received Oscar (betting odds 9 suggest that he was underdog to win this year award ) but it looks like he was not so much interested in this as he was resting in Wales and didn't want to travel anywhere.
I am sure that he would have traveled if it wasn't for this covid-19 situation but I guess that he just wanted to play it safe and stay home.


I see that Tenet won award for best visual effects but I would give it one extra reward for best movie to watch when you want to go to sleep Smiley
Haha true, it's really tiresome and I remmeber when I watched it that I couldn't wait for it to finish. Didn't fall asleep though, buy my wifer was pissed because she, to quote her  "wasted whole damn evening watching this crap". Cheesy


Since you are regular Oscar follower tell me did you bet and won anything?
10 mBTC bet on Hopkins would give you nice 90 mBTC return.
I bet few weeks ago, but back then I didn't include Hopkins. I lost the ticket due Olivia Colman not winning an Oscar, and even though I mentioned that I might bet on Hopkins few days ago, I completely forgot about it.

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I changed my first pick from Frances McDormand and my bet went to Viola Davies. I thought the black lives matter movement would be in the storyline for this year and Viola and Chadwick Boseman would win best actor and actress categories. It appears the voters did not care or there were more white voters than black voters hehehehe.

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April 28, 2021, 03:45:01 AM
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Not having seen any of the contenders, I just took a punt with the names as put in the OP - Of the ones I picked, I was only able to guess Best Director ( Chloe Zhao ) even then I was split between two nominees.  The other being Emerald Fennell.

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April 28, 2021, 04:14:19 AM
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I changed my first pick from Frances McDormand and my bet went to Viola Davies. I thought the black lives matter movement would be in the storyline for this year and Viola and Chadwick Boseman would win best actor and actress categories. It appears the voters did not care or there were more white voters than black voters hehehehe.

Too bad that you changed the pick. In the end the awards went for the best performance and not based on skin color. I don't think that it has anything to do with white voters or black voters. There is no proof to argue that the black voters favored Viola Davies over Frances McDormand. The awards and politics should be kept separate. What is the relationship between Black Lives Matter and movies anyway? It was an issue during the 2020 POTUS elections, but as far as Academy awards are concerned only acting should matter.

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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.

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The jurors did the right thing IMO. The award should be given for the best performance, and not based on emotions. IMO, Anthony Hopkins deserved that award more than anyone else. Chadwick Boseman is a good actor, but his performance was not as good as the one from Hopkins in The Father. Overall, this time the awards were fair. IMO, there is not much of a chance for complaining by anyone. The jurors did an exceptional job in selecting the best nominations for awards.
Exactly this. Chadwick Boseman did a fine job, and he definitely deserved nomination he got, but Anthony Hopkins was simply brilliant in this movie, his best role since The Silence of the Lambs without any doubt. Who knows, maybe Academy voters saw those huge odds for Hopkins given by the bookies so they decided to bet and get some extra money  Cheesy. Just jk lole, I don't think that something like that is easy to organize as Aacdemy has more than 7,000 voters.
Usually the award for the death person happens not because of emotions alone, or not because of even death itself, but more about if you do not give him an award this year, you will never give him any other award ever again in the future, so it is usually a discussion topic. However you have to realize, people die every day, celebs die every year, not all of them win something, most of them loses in the end, there are 100+ celebs die every year, some famous, some not so much obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't win anything.

Definitely there are few who died that year and got an Oscar as well, but that is much much more rare, like maybe 1k to 1 chance, probably lower between all dead people. Chadwick wasn't considered a potential winner just because he died, not like he played horribly, he was definitely in contention, even as far as say he was either first or second best, AND he died, so people assumed that would be decisive between him and Anthony Hopkins.
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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.

The Father is a movie that is more suitable to mature audiences and the younger viewers may not find it very interesting. It talks about a topic (progressing memory loss and dementia) which would otherwise be swept under the carpet and ignored in normal circumstances. But the topic is becoming more and more relevant, as the world population is undergoing rapid ageing (at least East Asia, North America and Europe). And I was actually disappointed that it didn't won the award for best picture.

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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.
Hopkins is a good actor, he was terrifying as Hannibal Lecter and I don't know why would they put a strange odds on him knowing that he can deliver what is being asked on the film. It's not blockbuster because there aren't a lot of theaters open so there isn't a lot of places to watch these movies. But to be honest, Cannes is much better than Oscars because that's where you get the really good films.
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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.
Hopkins is a good actor, he was terrifying as Hannibal Lecter and I don't know why would they put a strange odds on him knowing that he can deliver what is being asked on the film. It's not blockbuster because there aren't a lot of theaters open so there isn't a lot of places to watch these movies. But to be honest, Cannes is much better than Oscars because that's where you get the really good films.

There's no doubt about the acting ability of Hopkins, whatever movie he was in.
Lucky for those who bet on him. Just wondering, when I watched those movies, if at least they can get their initial production budget.
With this pandemic, I believe most of them were at loss. Though almost everybody is.
Would be hard for the film industry to get back also as many people are avoiding the crowd even if the vaccine is already available.
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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.
Hopkins is a good actor, he was terrifying as Hannibal Lecter and I don't know why would they put a strange odds on him knowing that he can deliver what is being asked on the film. It's not blockbuster because there aren't a lot of theaters open so there isn't a lot of places to watch these movies. But to be honest, Cannes is much better than Oscars because that's where you get the really good films.


Agree.
In Cannes the best films are presented, and they really win the best. At the Oscars, on the other hand, the ones who are the most "friends" of Hollywood usually win.

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April 30, 2021, 01:00:34 AM
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I should have bet Hopkins I knew the whole sentimental aspect would put him ahead of the game, I didnt realise the odds were so high and remote.   Obviously a kinda obscure type movie, not blockbuster not anything but I know the acting trade and thats a story thats going to get real appreciation from the voters behind oscars who invariably will have been in the industry their whole lives and not so much 20 somethings unaware of the struggles with aging etc.

The Father is a movie that is more suitable to mature audiences and the younger viewers may not find it very interesting. It talks about a topic (progressing memory loss and dementia) which would otherwise be swept under the carpet and ignored in normal circumstances. But the topic is becoming more and more relevant, as the world population is undergoing rapid ageing (at least East Asia, North America and Europe). And I was actually disappointed that it didn't won the award for best picture.
I personally think that The Father is a masterpiece, and anyone who is capable of empathy would find it very interesting and moving. I consider myself as a young viewer, but still I enjoyed it. Hopkins was incredible, as always. He sure as hell deserves the second Oscar.
I too hoped that this movie would be the winner. The Father and Mank were my favorites. And Nomadland just didn't seem like a very strong movie to me.
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Agree.
In Cannes the best films are presented, and they really win the best. At the Oscars, on the other hand, the ones who are the most "friends" of Hollywood usually win.
Cannes and Oscar are two completely different things. First of all, Cannes is a film festival and as any other film festival, it's not so much focused on movies from the one country, whereas Oscar is mainly award for US movies, despite the fact that they have "Best International Feature Film" and other non American movies can be found there.

I would compare Oscars to Cesar awards in France, which gives wards for best French movies, and similar thing have other countries. Thing with the Oscars is that United States cinema is so dominant around the world that it's no wonder that it's influence is huge.

Regarding that in Cannes always the best film wins Palme d'Or, looking at the previous winner I wouldn't agree with that. Majority of them are fine movies, but in the end it's all about personal preference. Another thing. Palme d'Or  winner is chosen by a jury of only 12 people. One interesting piece of trivia, Parasite was only the 3rd movie to win both Best Picture Oscar and Palme d'Or , and the first one since 1955.



I personally think that The Father is a masterpiece, and anyone who is capable of empathy would find it very interesting and moving. I consider myself as a young viewer, but still I enjoyed it. Hopkins was incredible, as always. He sure as hell deserves the second Oscar.
I too hoped that this movie would be the winner. The Father and Mank were my favorites. And Nomadland just didn't seem like a very strong movie to me.
The father is without the doubt an excellent movie, and by far the best depiction of dementia that I saw. But it is also demanding movie, so I can understand why some (and especially younger and less experienced viewers) might not like it.

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I just had a good feeing when I watched, "My Octopus Teacher" on NetFlix and I actually told someone in the room that it is going to win a Oscar for the Best Documentary in this years Oscars. You cannot just not reward someone, when they dedicated so much time and effort (free diving for months) to get footage like that.  Grin

I am a bit surprised by the Best Picture, Nomadland... because I did not like it much. They always have some agenda with most of these movies.. mostly political.  Roll Eyes  (Economical hardship is coming)   

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May 02, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
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I just had a good feeing when I watched, "My Octopus Teacher" on NetFlix and I actually told someone in the room that it is going to win a Oscar for the Best Documentary in this years Oscars. You cannot just not reward someone, when they dedicated so much time and effort (free diving for months) to get footage like that.  Grin

I was just a little surprised by this victory, as it is a Netflix documentary.
But, they had to really give something to Netflix, and ended up taking advantage of a less important category, for the academy.


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May 02, 2021, 11:43:26 AM
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The Father is a movie that is more suitable to mature audiences and the younger viewers may not find it very interesting. It talks about a topic (progressing memory loss and dementia) which would otherwise be swept under the carpet and ignored in normal circumstances. But the topic is becoming more and more relevant, as the world population is undergoing rapid ageing (at least East Asia, North America and Europe). And I was actually disappointed that it didn't won the award for best picture.
I am a bit surprised by the Best Picture, Nomadland... because I did not like it much. They always have some agenda with most of these movies.. mostly political.  Roll Eyes  (Economical hardship is coming)   
I've watched The Father and Nomadland, and I liked the former more as well. Anthony Hopkins played very realistically there. I didn't guess that he would get an Oscar for this one, but I think he totally deserved it. Congrats to those who bet on him.
While I didn't like Nomadland that much, McDormand played beautifully in it, and my bet on 4.27 odds on her was the biggest one I've made for this round of Oscars, so I'm glad it was a win  Grin

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May 02, 2021, 02:32:53 PM
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I was just a little surprised by this victory, as it is a Netflix documentary.
But, they had to really give something to Netflix, and ended up taking advantage of a less important category, for the academy.
So what if its Netflix documentary, does it make any automatically bad?  Netflix spent 15 billion dollars on original content in 2019 and 17 billion dollars in 2020. So yeah, they mean business and every year they keep getting better. For me, paying Netflix subscription is a no brainer as I know that money will be spent on quality stuff.

Regarding your nonsense about "Netflix taking advantage and won in less important category", just a reminder for you that in 2019 Netflix's Roma won 3 Oscars; Alfonso Cuaron for best director, Best Foreign Language Film and best Cinematography. Are those also irrelevant categories too? In Best Documentary category this is their 3rd win for now, so no surprise either. And no, Best Documentary is not an irrelevant category.

So yeah, you should really check your facts before writing nonsense.



While I didn't like Nomadland that much, McDormand played beautifully in it, and my bet on 4.27 odds on her was the biggest one I've made for this round of Oscars, so I'm glad it was a win  Grin

Kudos for the the win, bookies really underestimated Frances McDormand!

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