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April 20, 2021, 07:45:18 PM
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WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The Clubs keep investing in players who otherwise might just be talented, skillful, unemployed and poor individuals.
They help reduce the rate of crime and Governments are happy that clubs exist..

The players bring entertainment and fulfilment to fans and supporters who otherwise might be depressed and may likely commit suicide..

Through betting, fans and supporters make money off the hard work of footballers...

The fans patronise the games and pay money for their source of entertainment. Without the fans, clubs will have less motivation to invest in the players and players are likely to suffer for that..

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.

SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.

Reality is that Clubs gave too much money to players and made them disrespectful to their managers.

End result, more debt and lacklustre..
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April 20, 2021, 07:57:12 PM
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The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

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April 20, 2021, 08:16:46 PM
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The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.
Exactly! I was supposed to say the same thing that all of those clubs and players wont really be existing if there were no fans after all.They wont really be able to generate
revenue as it should be because fans are the ones  who had been generating the money that circles around to this industry or business, without them then they wont really
be existing in the first place.So in question on whose more powerful? Ill be definitely stick out with Fans.
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I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players.  Smiley

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April 20, 2021, 09:59:37 PM
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Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

But for that to profit, Clubs should manage well their players and do their best to improve their skills as fans won't patronize something without a reason.

Overall, all are having a key role. If clubs or players failed to meet the fans' expectations, then don't expect something good about it.

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April 20, 2021, 10:03:16 PM
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It's not necessary to ask because the answer is really obvious, the answer is the "FANS".

Reason = self explanatory because without the FANS, no sports will succeed and players will not be getting a good salary.
We are the main source of their livelihood, we pay to be entertain, they do the job for us to get entertain.

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April 20, 2021, 10:31:10 PM
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So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.
You even answered your own question OP and I agree that's the correct answer too. Who are these players and club owners when they aren't patronized by these fans? Nothing, they would just playing out there and no motivation at all.
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April 20, 2021, 10:53:54 PM
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It's the Fans that I think are the most powerful out of all three. Imagine being a very good content creator, on an established and well-known platform like Youtube, but still unable to rake in views because you don't have supporters/subscribers. That's how powerful the mass is compared to an individual or a corporation, they can do everything they can to rake in people, but if the fans say no, then they wouldn't have any choice.
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April 20, 2021, 10:59:35 PM
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The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

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April 20, 2021, 11:11:29 PM
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I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players.  Smiley
If there's no demand then there would be no players and clubs would be existing because there would be no one to watch which would sell off those tickets and those merch and other
viable source that they could get from fans.

There's no point if they would make out games for nothing or they cant get any benefit since no fans would be watching out.In speaking with teams then they are the ones
who do bring out some quality entertainment and thrill which we can definitely say that theres need of mutual benefits to each other.

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April 20, 2021, 11:30:33 PM
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They are right that the fans are still the ones that will make money for them. If it's for the fans, there will be no takers of their tickets and no sponsors will come to them because it's what they want, the exposure of these players and clubs get from the fans.
That's why some players who forget to respect fans are too quickly gone in their career and goes early out because the fans are boycotting them.

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April 21, 2021, 12:32:06 AM
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The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

Of course, these three elements are the true meaning of football,Without these components, games and entertainment cannot be obtained.
And, the fans will be allowed to get angry and demand the club to retract its unwanted decisions,The fans are the official sponsors of football without whom the club management budget cannot be obtained.so the most powerful ones are the fans Wink
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April 21, 2021, 01:39:49 AM
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There are some leagues that still have small number of fans especially if the sports is not that popular but despite of those numbers, without Fans sports will die easily because to run a sports league there must be a fans to generate money to support for the team clubs.

Its hard to measure the influence of every team, some club owners are doing everything to lure the fans, but seriously Players are just a players here who are working for the fans and for the clubs for their own benefit and for the love of sports.

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April 21, 2021, 01:48:54 AM
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Aren't they basically equal? Like there's an equilibrium that mas be maintained between the three ALWAYS. A club exists because of players, fans exist because of their players, and players group up due to clubs. Players earn profit for playing for the club, the club earns profit for advertising the players to its fans, and fans enjoy watching the players. Without one of these three, it'd basically be non-existent. Without a club, players wouldn't even be able to group up, practice, and play in official games. Without players, what the hell is a club for? And without fans, there'd basically be zero profit for the clubs, even if we consider competitions, the bulk of profits from there come from the audience afaik.

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April 21, 2021, 03:02:08 AM
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Yes, the fans are the one who makes everything successful associated with sports. Rather than through betting, the support is mainly through the viewership and following.

Clubs aren't benefited out of the fans, those are organization that profits through advertising and funds from corporate firms. To keep their name high, clubs hire players for high cost and give the sophistication. On the whole when you look what the fans get is nothing, whereas the clubs and players are the benefitting ones.
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April 21, 2021, 03:34:58 AM
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Like you've said fans are more powerful as they provide a lot of support to their teams but it's only to a certain extent because it could also backfire whenever the team is having a bit of struggle throughout the season. Sometimes you'll see some fans become toxic and put pressure on certain players that isn't doing so well.

On another sport like esports its the players that are more powerful because a lot of teams start from the bottom and once they reach the top they're eventually picked up by the bigger orgs and whenever there's a roster changes it feels like the captain/members of the team are usually behind those decisions.

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April 21, 2021, 03:37:19 AM
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Who's more powerful? There is none. It seems you've raised the wrong question.

The relationship between the three is more or less equal. It is a symbiotic relationship where one is benefiting from the other. Without the players, clubs are nothing and fans don't get what they want for entertainment. Without the fans, the clubs and players are useless. Without the clubs, players won't get discovered, reach the limelight, and so on and no events, leagues, tournaments are created.  

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April 21, 2021, 04:50:23 AM
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WHO IS MORE POWERFUL Huh?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

From microeconomic consumer's choice theory the fans (consumers) are the most powerful. In general they provide the financial basis for the clubs and the players. Also they are the consumers of advertisement, which also plays a great role when it comes to the question how to finance a club.
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April 21, 2021, 08:02:40 AM
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The most powerful as the pandemic showed are the fans.Games without them were so boring that when a game was shown in Tv the Tv created artificially the atmosphere of the fans,they offered background cheering to make the game more enjoyable to watch.

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April 21, 2021, 08:08:37 AM
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Millions of supporters have been able to put this filthy Super-Leauge takeover at the door but this is not the end. It's a clear strategy by those teams because they want to test the ground to see how far can they go and this time they had to stop at the start.
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