I will never buy a Tesla car

[ampu]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

[Timelord2067]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

[Renampun]

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The reason I won't buy a Tesla is because in my country the price is very expensive...

Besides that, the maintenance costs are also quite complicated, while I don't have enough time to take care of it. I'd rather stick with my old car and keep hold my Bitcoins than buy a Tesla I'll never need.

[ampu]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

[TwitchySeal]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

Tesla has thought of that already and has announced ^{(sorry I've lost the link)} that they will start their own recharging stations attached to "Dinner" style restaurants / service stations - essentially Tesla gets you to buy the car, then, while you are "captive" for ~ 30 - 60 minutes, they get a trickle of money from you - might not be much day-to-day, but if they know they can rake in ^{(ball park number out of my head)} $100 per month from 50,000 people, then that starts equating to some big bucks.

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

I don't think Tesla is targeting people that plan on taking their vehicle to areas that are hundreds of miles away from gas stations or electricity.  I can't even think of an area that you would need to fill up an extra gas tank and throw it in your car because your gas tank doesn't hold enough.

And I believe with a super charger, you can get almost 200 miles worth of charge in 15 minutes.  And it will keep going down with each new model.

[Tash]

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And I believe with a super charger, you can get almost 200 miles worth of charge in 15 minutes.  And it will keep going down with each new model.

You might be,
but Model S and X cars have Panasonic manufactured batteries.
Panasonic specifies a maximum charging current of 2 amperes per cell. Tesla allows charging current to be up to 4 amperes.
As with Panasonic warranty already already null and void. Increasing the amperes even more, (faster charge) shortens Battery life more so.
Not much changing with the new in house produced (gigafactory) "2170" batteries other than physical size.  (increasing Ø by 3mm and height by 5

[Timelord2067]

Wait 30-60 minutes to charge the battery, but the internal combustion engine refuels no more than 4 minutes. If you go to remote places, you can bring a fuel tank. Wouldn't that be more convenient?
Tesla electric cars are trying to reach everywhere, but they can hardly reach remote places.

Maybe, maybe not.  Already companies such as goalzero.com have portable power packs the size of car batteries and solar panels that allow everything from USB devices to AC mains and 6V plugs, so it's not too unreasonable to imagine that a car could carry a spare battery and transfer power to the cars' own batteries (or even recharge the batteries via solar panels).

You obviously haven't been to Australia, North (Central and Southern) America, Eastern Europe (the list goes on) where there are wide open spaces and many hours of driving between one dot on the map and the next.  Carrying fuel onboard is essential to travel, so carrying spare batteries and solar panels isn't as far fetched as you might imagine.

Hybrid cars already recharge the batteries on the run when the vehicle is coasting / down hill etc - surely Tesla Cars do something similar to extend the drive times between actual recharges?

(and who doesn't want to get out of a car on a long run for a coffee and a stretch of the legs?)

[virasog]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

There are many other good cars then Tesla on which you can go to far places and they offer much more value.

So why would we need to choose Tesla  
If we don't like Elon Musk market manipulation, we should show our protest by not buying his products.

[Ebede]

What's your reasons not buy a car from Tesla company, then you dont like their products or the company itself you can equally go other companies that will give you what you like, but me i will buy, i cant because the attitude of elon musk towards cryptos not to buy what's nice to my test.

[jrrsparkles]

Ignore stereotypes against Tesla and Elon Musk, buy a car to travel and go to far places, choose a gasoline-powered car because they are easier to refuel. If you have to find a place to recharge and wait for the battery to be fully charged, you will lose your precious time. Not to mention the experience of a gasoline-powered car can be better.

There are many other good cars then Tesla on which you can go to far places and they offer much more value.

So why would we need to choose Tesla  
If we don't like Elon Musk market manipulation, we should show our protest by not buying his products.

You can choose any brand you wanted to buy but we can't deny that Tesla is one of the best of its kind and its literally cheaper than other company cars in the EV segment. He is not going to get affected if we don't buy cars from him and actually he is even selling his ideas more than his car and he made profits from ideas than his actual selling of cars.

[Mauser]

I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Up until this year when Elon Musk killed the Bitcoin, it was my dream to buy a new Tesla one day. I was so hyped when he announced that you could buy a Tesla for 1 BTC. But this hype changed so fast. Now I am not considering to buy a Tesla ever. My next car is definitely going to be an electric car, but it's better to wait a few more years until more car manufacturers will bring out more models. 

[Tash]

Good alternative to Tesla only $72500
https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/6695-1937-detroit-electric-model-99c-2-dr/

[Ultegra134]

I don't think that's a wise statement. I was also frustrated with what happened to the market, which was influenced by Elon Musk, however, BTC's price was approximately at $35-40k mark before Tesla invested in Bitcoin. It's like we're back at point 0, before Musk.

Tesla has the patent for electric cars, which is open to use by any manufacturer. In my opinion, they build the best EVs so far, except a few cases I do not like, regarding their policy for example.

[BernyJB]

I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Well, when I buy a car I look at more practical issues like HP, handling, braking, reliability, fuel efficiency, etc.
I wouldn't buy a Tesla because it's electric, and electric cars are a big lie. If I could, I'd get a gas powered car and convert it to run on E100.
But, most importantly, I wouldn't buy a Tesla because I don't have the money.
Either way, I think Elon Musk will still survive...

[Tash]

I'm planning to buy a new car this summer. Not very sure of what I'm going to get, but I have no doubt about what I'm not going to get. I'm not going to get a Tesla. Never. Wouldn't even accept a test drive.

Hey, BTC's falling hard this week, and the guy who started the fall is Elon Musk, Tesla's manager. There's just no way I'm going to spend my money with the guy who's destroying my savings.

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Well, when I buy a car I look at more practical issues like HP, handling, braking, reliability, fuel efficiency, etc.
I wouldn't buy a Tesla because it's electric, and electric cars are a big lie. If I could, I'd get a gas powered car and convert it to run on E100.
But, most importantly, I wouldn't buy a Tesla because I don't have the money.
Either way, I think Elon Musk will still survive...

Except the thugs running the world want allow green fuel like alcohol to florish, instead they tax it like hell.
The moment the subsidies stop, he is done. Just because he is the latetest in a long list of failes in the EV market does not mean he will succeed.
In a free market he has no hope of surviving, better options are available.
Best fix
https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-dynamite-battery-replacement/#disqus_thread

[OgNasty]

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Ya!  Fuck Tesla for buying billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and holding it on their balance sheet.  Fuck Elon Musk for buying more Bitcoin to own personally.  Fuck Tesla for running a pilot program to accept Bitcoin for their cars and especially fuck Tesla because they said they'll be accepting Bitcoin again in the future.

Oh ya, and fuck Elon Musk for trying to make human beings a multiplanetary species.  Lastly, a final fuck you to Tesla for trying to replace internal combustion engines with electric motors. 

Who the fuck does this guy and this company think they are?  Supporting decentralized currencies, trying to better our species through space exploration, and cleaning up our planet while giving customers an awesome driving experience.  Fuck them... 

[philipma1957]

All bitcoiners should blacklist Tesla cars or any product or service coming from a company owned by Mr.Musk.

Ya!  Fuck Tesla for buying billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and holding it on their balance sheet.  Fuck Elon Musk for buying more Bitcoin to own personally.  Fuck Tesla for running a pilot program to accept Bitcoin for their cars and especially fuck Tesla because they said they'll be accepting Bitcoin again in the future.

Oh ya, and fuck Elon Musk for trying to make human beings a multiplanetary species.  Lastly, a final fuck you to Tesla for trying to replace internal combustion engines with electric motors.  

Who the fuck does this guy and this company think they are?  Supporting decentralized currencies, trying to better our species through space exploration, and cleaning up our planet while giving customers an awesome driving experience.  Fuck them...  

Fuck him for pushing Doge and making me 55k profit on it this year.  

[BernyJB]

Except the thugs running the world want allow green fuel like alcohol to florish, instead they tax it like hell.

And that is (again) the usual argument from people who choose to whine instead of looking for a solution.
There are strong communities in the US and elsewhere, both of biodiesel and bioethanol makers, as well as SVO and other alternative methods' users.  And most of them are free, or as close to free as can be expected, and NOT TAXED AT ALL, if you decide to to the legwork. Of course it's easier to complain and find excuses for doing nothing...

[Maestro75]

If there is a vote on this, op will fail to gather support on those boycotting Elon Musk Tesla. If OP is hating on Elon because of bitcoin when it dumped and he feels Elon is the major cause of it, what he should be doing is to start monitoring Elon closely to see when he is going to take another action that will cause bitcoin to crash. That is the best he can do and not call for a boycott that will fail flat. If Tesla is not expensive I will like to have one. For what I know, Elon has helped mankind alot and his support for bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is there for all to see. Any hate against him should be personal and not mass.

[Tash]

If there is a vote on this, op will fail to gather support on those boycotting Elon Musk Tesla. If OP is hating on Elon because of bitcoin when it dumped and he feels Elon is the major cause of it, what he should be doing is to start monitoring Elon closely to see when he is going to take another action that will cause bitcoin to crash. That is the best he can do and not call for a boycott that will fail flat. If Tesla is not expensive I will like to have one. For what I know, Elon has helped mankind alot and his support for bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is there for all to see. Any hate against him should be personal and not mass.

And what exactly would that be? What development did i miss, linkes, facts anything?
The only thing i do know in years to come people will have to pay a lot of money for correct dispossing of environment hazardous used / dead batteries. The first once start to fail, only the odd one so far, not a concern. The best dumping place for the mountain to come will be peoples backyard who cheer for it.

Electric charging station from the way old days https://youtu.be/juGsYXpk7Q4?t=22