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September 18, 2021, 03:13:50 AM
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Shaarawy and Abraham function very well under Mourinho and they indeed had a head start, whether they can keep it up, I am not so sure. Roma's squad is strong when it comes to the first 12 - 13 players, but when injuries come into play they will get into trouble. When Mourinho became coach in Tottenham, he also started decently but the, they lost out really hard the closer they got to the middle of the season.
Sharawy made his name in AC Milan and he was a hope of AC Milan after Inzaghi retired together with many players, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Maldini, ...

However after a few seasons played too much, he got injured and lost his performance. AC Milan sold him to Roma and it looks like Roma is a real home for El Sharawy. El Sharawy if can continue this improvement, will be able to get a position in Italy international team. Another player in Roma that is improving after injury is Zaniolo.

Pellegrini scored a very beautiful goal in match with Sofia and he reminds me about Totti with that goal.

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September 18, 2021, 03:45:17 AM
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Shaarawy and Abraham function very well under Mourinho and they indeed had a head start, whether they can keep it up, I am not so sure. Roma's squad is strong when it comes to the first 12 - 13 players, but when injuries come into play they will get into trouble. When Mourinho became coach in Tottenham, he also started decently but the, they lost out really hard the closer they got to the middle of the season.
Sharawy made his name in AC Milan and he was a hope of AC Milan after Inzaghi retired together with many players, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Maldini, ...

However after a few seasons played too much, he got injured and lost his performance. AC Milan sold him to Roma and it looks like Roma is a real home for El Sharawy. El Sharawy if can continue this improvement, will be able to get a position in Italy international team. Another player in Roma that is improving after injury is Zaniolo.

Pellegrini scored a very beautiful goal in match with Sofia and he reminds me about Totti with that goal.
I personally saw Shaarawy when he was at Milan it was seen that Shaarawy had good potential, and then Milan let him go and I think it was only for the financial needs of the team. Judging from the available data, Shaarawy was loaned out and then transferred back to Roma, where he previously anchored in Monaco and Shanghai Shenhua. Mourinho's magic now seems to have returned and I believe and hope that Mourinho can bring a big change for Roma, at least become champions in this tournament or just become the holder of the Serie A title, I think that is enough to restore his reputation.

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September 18, 2021, 11:20:07 AM
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Mourinho is undoubtedly a great coach, but he has certain characteristics besides positive ones  Cheesy For example, many believe that its maximum for any team is 3 + - seasons, after which the amount of accumulated contradictions becomes such that he have to leave the club. But in any case, I hope that Roma has good results ahead with him.

Mourinho really is giving a new gameplay for Roma and some new things. Wasnt expecting at all that Roma is playing really good in both serie A and Europe Confrence league. I think they will go really far in Europe maybe even win it. They are one of the favorites to win.

Yes, it is quite possible that given the really low chances of Roma to win the national championship, they will concentrate on winning this tournament. This is not a Champions League, but still a title.

Shaarawy and Abraham function very well under Mourinho and they indeed had a head start, whether they can keep it up, I am not so sure. Roma's squad is strong when it comes to the first 12 - 13 players, but when injuries come into play they will get into trouble. When Mourinho became coach in Tottenham, he also started decently but the, they lost out really hard the closer they got to the middle of the season.

Sure. The depth of the squad is a common problem for non-top teams, so sooner or later management will have to decide which tournaments the team should focus on this season.

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September 18, 2021, 12:25:55 PM
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Shaarawy and Abraham function very well under Mourinho and they indeed had a head start, whether they can keep it up, I am not so sure. Roma's squad is strong when it comes to the first 12 - 13 players, but when injuries come into play they will get into trouble. When Mourinho became coach in Tottenham, he also started decently but the, they lost out really hard the closer they got to the middle of the season.
Sharawy made his name in AC Milan and he was a hope of AC Milan after Inzaghi retired together with many players, Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Maldini, ...

However after a few seasons played too much, he got injured and lost his performance. AC Milan sold him to Roma and it looks like Roma is a real home for El Sharawy. El Sharawy if can continue this improvement, will be able to get a position in Italy international team. Another player in Roma that is improving after injury is Zaniolo.

Pellegrini scored a very beautiful goal in match with Sofia and he reminds me about Totti with that goal.

I think he is also a player who gets along well with a coach like Mourinho and vice versa. Sure every coach wants his players to frequently score in order to be happy, but Shaarawy gives his best and delivers and Mourinho puts a lot of emphasis on players giving everything even if they don't sore as much. He loves players who also have a certain effectiveness for the team in many other ways. Curious how far "the special one" can take Roma this year. He is always good for a surprise, but it is going to be a very long season anyway.

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September 18, 2021, 09:22:17 PM
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I personally saw Shaarawy when he was at Milan it was seen that Shaarawy had good potential, and then Milan let him go and I think it was only for the financial needs of the team. Judging from the available data, Shaarawy was loaned out and then transferred back to Roma, where he previously anchored in Monaco and Shanghai Shenhua. Mourinho's magic now seems to have returned and I believe and hope that Mourinho can bring a big change for Roma, at least become champions in this tournament or just become the holder of the Serie A title, I think that is enough to restore his reputation.
It wasn't a loan as far as I know, it was basically a huge transfer for the other team, but when his contract ended, he just walked away for free to any team he wants. Obviously it looks weird to see him go back to Roma but he did just that, but wasn't a loan as far as I know. I have to say with all these teams doing fine, I am really shocked about this tournament. I did not expect something this good at all.

I was guessing that it would be a lot worse than what it is right now, it would be many horrible teams and many meaningless games. However now that I am looking into it, I have to say the world has good enough teams to play at 3 different continental cup, and it turns out to be very entertaining as well.

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September 18, 2021, 10:25:38 PM
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For me, I was expecting more from Spurs, although Rennes is a good team but the level of leagues is very different, and also for Union Berlin, such defeat with such score is quite unexpected. Meanwhile, Roma is taking the lights right now under Mourinho Smiley
Stopped expecting anything from Spurs a long time ago, except if you want Kane/Son to score, which you can usually count on. But taking all 3 points is no longer a given, not since Mourinho and I'm still out on Nuno.

That said, Mourinho proves he is made for Italy, and maybe he was told there's no parking space for the bus at Roma:)
lol but you are right, myself said that the last season when their failure or win was very random but honestly level of teams in Conference League is way weaker than Spurs, a draw against Rennes could be swallowed but their next games should be different for real.

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For me, I was expecting more from Spurs, although Rennes is a good team but the level of leagues is very different, and also for Union Berlin, such defeat with such score is quite unexpected. Meanwhile, Roma is taking the lights right now under Mourinho Smiley
Stopped expecting anything from Spurs a long time ago, except if you want Kane/Son to score, which you can usually count on. But taking all 3 points is no longer a given, not since Mourinho and I'm still out on Nuno.

That said, Mourinho proves he is made for Italy, and maybe he was told there's no parking space for the bus at Roma:)
lol but you are right, myself said that the last season when their failure or win was very random but honestly level of teams in Conference League is way weaker than Spurs, a draw against Rennes could be swallowed but their next games should be different for real.

I think Mourinho kind of loves to be the underdog. His biggest wins and trophies happened when he coached Fc Porto, then Inter and who knows what he is now going to do with Roma. He failed in Tottenham I would say, but the league is just dominated so hard by the top 3, top 4 teams that an underdog hardly has a chance. I didn't know it is already five years ago that the underdog Leicesty City became champions, but that won't repeat itself anytime soon. It would be awesome to see Mourinho go far again with a team like Roma, that's always fun to watch.

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September 30, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
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Time to bump this thread and show some love to Conference League Cheesy.
Probably main game today is Feyenoord - Slavia. Slavia have many players injured, but despite it they looking solid. So, I think that they are underrated too much for this game.
Most of other games doesn't look very attractive to watch. Maybe Vitesse - Rennes may be interesting.
Spurs will face Mura and even if they will play with reserve squad, I expect them to achieve quite big win. IMO, muravis one of weakest teams in tournament.

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Time to bump this thread and show some love to Conference League Cheesy.
Probably main game today is Feyenoord - Slavia. Slavia have many players injured, but despite it they looking solid. So, I think that they are underrated too much for this game.
Most of other games doesn't look very attractive to watch. Maybe Vitesse - Rennes may be interesting.
Spurs will face Mura and even if they will play with reserve squad, I expect them to achieve quite big win. IMO, muravis one of weakest teams in tournament.

@LTU_btc having player’s injured is always bad, but an opportunity for others to stake their place in the team hence we’ll have to see if those other player’s step up or no. Also are you sure about Spurs winning, did you even see their recent matches because I have zero confidence in spurs winning this game and that too winning it easily.
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September 30, 2021, 09:58:17 AM
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It looks like Napoli are going to have another comfortable match this time against Spartak Moscow. Their opponent is really not good lately. They have got bad results in the league. And Legia defeated them by 1-0 in their first EL group match also. But Napoli are doing just great. They have been dominating the Serie A so far and they got a 2-2 draw against Leicester away in the EL also. I think that they will win the match very comfortably.
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September 30, 2021, 11:52:16 AM
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Time to bump this thread and show some love to Conference League Cheesy.
Probably main game today is Feyenoord - Slavia. Slavia have many players injured, but despite it they looking solid. So, I think that they are underrated too much for this game.
Most of other games doesn't look very attractive to watch. Maybe Vitesse - Rennes may be interesting.
Spurs will face Mura and even if they will play with reserve squad, I expect them to achieve quite big win. IMO, muravis one of weakest teams in tournament.
This season is the first season to hold a conference league, so it is very natural that this thread is a little quiet compared to other league threads, I personally have been a little less involved in conference league trips because so far I have seen many  macthes unbalanced and not yet bigmatch has occurred in the conference league.

@LTU_btc having player’s injured is always bad, but an opportunity for others to stake their place in the team hence we’ll have to see if those other player’s step up or no. Also are you sure about Spurs winning, did you even see their recent matches because I have zero confidence in spurs winning this game and that too winning it easily.
Tottenham Hotspur current situation is uncertain, especially since they have just lost in a row in the English Premier League, but I don't think it will affect the mentality of the Tottenham players in the conference league too much, especially since the team faced by Tottenham is not a tough and mura team also in bad performance in the slovenia league, so i think tottenham will easily beat mura by a score of more than 2 goals.

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September 30, 2021, 12:44:18 PM
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Partizan is playing Flora tonight and win over handicap shall be fine, H2 or H3 is the question?

regarding other matches, Feyenoord should be a good pick, but value is questionable on odds, AZ is also having Czech opponent Jablonec and home win with handicap should be good
Gent is playing Anorthosis, Basel with Almaty, both matches should be home wins, but odds are too low without handicap

tough day for betting in Conference league
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September 30, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
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It looks like Napoli are going to have another comfortable match this time against Spartak Moscow. Their opponent is really not good lately. They have got bad results in the league. And Legia defeated them by 1-0 in their first EL group match also. But Napoli are doing just great. They have been dominating the Serie A so far and they got a 2-2 draw against Leicester away in the EL also. I think that they will win the match very comfortably.

Should be an easy win for Napoli. They are playing incredibly well in the league so far and they are playing as a team- which is a good sign. So far the young Osimhen and Fabian have been playing very good. They also have creative attacking options like Mertens and Insigne. And Spartak has not been having a good season this year. They have been struggling in both their league and Europa League. So I'm guessing, Napoli will have this match in the bag with a dub.

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September 30, 2021, 03:41:31 PM
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It looks like Napoli are going to have another comfortable match this time against Spartak Moscow. Their opponent is really not good lately. They have got bad results in the league. And Legia defeated them by 1-0 in their first EL group match also. But Napoli are doing just great. They have been dominating the Serie A so far and they got a 2-2 draw against Leicester away in the EL also. I think that they will win the match very comfortably.

Should be an easy win for Napoli. They are playing incredibly well in the league so far and they are playing as a team- which is a good sign. So far the young Osimhen and Fabian have been playing very good. They also have creative attacking options like Mertens and Insigne. And Spartak has not been having a good season this year. They have been struggling in both their league and Europa League. So I'm guessing, Napoli will have this match in the bag with a dub.

Which is precisely why I'm betting on Spartak Moscow tonight haha.

I can't help it. At over 15/1 odds almost and you're both right. Napoli are scoring freely, while Moscow are in bad form. But I'm sure if you played them 5 times together at this same stage, Moscow has to win once. So those odds just look too good for me to miss.

Or, you take the easy way out and go for double chance. Still not bad at almost 4/1.

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September 30, 2021, 04:56:55 PM
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The first games today have started already. I see that Roma have started with an early goal thanks to El Shaarawy. They are leading by 1-0 against Zorya away now. This is another easy game for Roma after demolishing Cska Sofia by 5-1 home. Actually, Roma's group is very easy in general. I don't expect them to lose even one point. They should be able to defeat their competitors in both games comfortably. And Roma really need a win here as they were defeated by Lazio in the Serie A by 3-2 the last time. This could be a really good way to boost their morale.

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September 30, 2021, 05:51:02 PM
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The first games today have started already. I see that Roma have started with an early goal thanks to El Shaarawy. They are leading by 1-0 against Zorya away now. This is another easy game for Roma after demolishing Cska Sofia by 5-1 home. Actually, Roma's group is very easy in general. I don't expect them to lose even one point. They should be able to defeat their competitors in both games comfortably. And Roma really need a win here as they were defeated by Lazio in the Serie A by 3-2 the last time. This could be a really good way to boost their morale.
The first half of the match has now ended, and while Roma looked quite ahead of their opponents, El Shaarawy's goal in the 7th minute temporarily put Roma ahead of the game, actually in the first half, Roma continued to dominate the game, but it looked like they were struggling to create scoring chances goals, in the first half Roma only managed to take 5 kicks and 4 of them were on target, while Zorya managed to create 8 chances, but a bad finish made the opportunity go to waste and only 1 went on target.
Today two italian clubs are playing in different european competitions and it looks like we will see the two italian teams will win against their opponents.

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September 30, 2021, 05:56:44 PM
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AZ Alkmaar have been in a really bad shape for a long time. They finally got a win against G. A. Eagles in their league by 5-0 and it should be a good morale for them in the match in the Europa Conference League now. But before that match, they lost 3 of their last 4 matches. Now they will want to get a certain win against Jablonec and maintain their streak. They have just scored one goal and got ahead by 1-0.

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September 30, 2021, 06:42:00 PM
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Which is precisely why I'm betting on Spartak Moscow tonight haha.

I can't help it. At over 15/1 odds almost and you're both right. Napoli are scoring freely, while Moscow are in bad form. But I'm sure if you played them 5 times together at this same stage, Moscow has to win once. So those odds just look too good for me to miss.

Or, you take the easy way out and go for double chance. Still not bad at almost 4/1.

Well, these odds must be for a reason and it's pretty obvious which is the reason. Grin
Of course, are tempting but it will be one of the major surprises for today if Spartak Moscow manages to win this game. Maybe not to lose will be "safer", unless Napoli make a ton of changes in their first lineup...


Spurs will face Mura and even if they will play with reserve squad, I expect them to achieve quite big win. IMO, muravis one of weakest teams in tournament.

Tottenham scares the hell out of me, especially in this type of game! You are right, they should win with more than 2+ goals but they can't be trusted. For sure I won't bet on them so I prefer to stay away from this game, even if it looks easy. I will choose to bet for PAOK's win against Slovan Bratislava... Wink

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September 30, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
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The first games today have started already. I see that Roma have started with an early goal thanks to El Shaarawy. They are leading by 1-0 against Zorya away now. This is another easy game for Roma after demolishing Cska Sofia by 5-1 home. Actually, Roma's group is very easy in general. I don't expect them to lose even one point. They should be able to defeat their competitors in both games comfortably. And Roma really need a win here as they were defeated by Lazio in the Serie A by 3-2 the last time. This could be a really good way to boost their morale.
Luhansk 0-3 Roma, an easy win obviously and I agree that they shouldn't lose any point in this group, well unless they guaranteed first place and played with full substitue. Otherwise I don't see much surprises in the other games.

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September 30, 2021, 06:50:12 PM
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Which is precisely why I'm betting on Spartak Moscow tonight haha.

I can't help it. At over 15/1 odds almost and you're both right. Napoli are scoring freely, while Moscow are in bad form. But I'm sure if you played them 5 times together at this same stage, Moscow has to win once. So those odds just look too good for me to miss.

Or, you take the easy way out and go for double chance. Still not bad at almost 4/1.

Well, these odds must be for a reason and it's pretty obvious which is the reason. Grin
Of course, are tempting but it will be one of the major surprises for today if Spartak Moscow manages to win this game. Maybe not to lose will be "safer", unless Napoli make a ton of changes in their first lineup...

And the game is in injury time with 9 minutes past! But Quincy Promes just got his brace to get Spartak Moscow up 3-1, and Napoli pulled one back for 3-2 but they're trying too hard, too late. Yes, Napoli's red card didn't help, but you've to credit the Russians for attacking much more effectively, and being more robust in midfield. Napoli just kept trying to beat the offside trap but that gameplan kept failing.

15/1 win for me. I lost all my other underdogs, and also missed the Monaco win by a whisker, but this is why I like taking these bets. Win 1 out of 4 or 5 and you're still way in profit =)

Scrappy win, rough match, my kind of game! Yes I know it's not over yet but I wanna sing before the fat lady haha.

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