📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

[JeromeTash]

If gambling campaigns find another place to promote, they will inevitably stop promoting here, regardless of the quality of the posts.

I already see some sponsored by some casinos posts on Twitter. Others now have their own forums and activity is not bad at all because it just a collection of only gamblers. The advantage Bitcointalk had/has onto of being the oldest crypto forum is that it's one place where a service looking for crypto related clients would find a collection of them. Twitter and Facebook just has a mixture of different users, some of which still think Bitcoin is scam and others completely don't even know about the existence of bitcoin.

This is what happened with mixers, which was moved to another forum, although the results was not guaranteed.

The Mixers were the perfect only Bitcoin service and the only place they would get clients, at least on the clearnet, without being demonized was this forum. I don't think them making paid posts on Social media would help/work for them.

[Poker Player]

... In the past, options were available between ICOs, crypto exchanges, mixers, tokens,...etc, but since 2020, most of the promotion has moved to social media. Then the options became between mixers and gambling, and mixers were banned.

If gambling campaigns find another place to promote, they will inevitably stop promoting here, regardless of the quality of the posts. This is what happened with mixers, which was moved to another forum, although the results was not guaranteed...

I don't think I could have summed it up any better.

There is also link building and brand building. Link building is one of the few cases where even spam may work for advertisers, but its importance has declined in recent years as search engines have found ways to deal with the link spam problem, which of course is not limited to Bitcointalk but the whole web. Brand building is in contrast benefitted by high quality content.

You who registered in 2013 surely lived through the first few years of quality posts but the merit system was introduced in January 2018 to deal with the spam problem that did not come overnight. As of today we are better in terms of overall quality posts than in 2017 and basically today practically only casinos are advertised.

The Mixers were the perfect only Bitcoin service and the only place they would get clients, at least on the clearnet, without being demonized was this forum. I don't think them making paid posts on Social media would help/work for them.

Good point.

[joker_josue]

Now this conversation leads to the question:
What other services would be viable to advertise on the forum?

Can you suggest a service that you think would be viable for advertising here on the forum?

[mindrust]

Now this conversation leads to the question:
What other services would be viable to advertise on the forum?

Can you suggest a service that you think would be viable for advertising here on the forum?

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[Helena Yu]

Sex always sells. Let’s invite onlyfans folks in.

Nope, there was a porn campaign but it only last for 4 weeks.

It's kind of surprising why porn doesn't really attractive in this forum, I think nerds or geeks are high likely fall to porn addiction considering women didn't find nerds are attractive and they mostly alone.

Probably V-tuber or 2D porn could be an another option.

[d5000]

You who registered in 2013 surely lived through the first few years of quality posts but the merit system was introduced in January 2018 to deal with the spam problem that did not come overnight. As of today we are better in terms of overall quality posts than in 2017 and basically today practically only casinos are advertised.

Yes, I think merit has improved the situation a bit. But I think there is plenty of air to the upside still. And even a little visual upgrade, a slightly more attractive CSS theme for example and better mobile usability, could already help, because it would make good forum threads "shareable" on other social media as I already wrote in another post. This would make it possible to reach out for both forum and social media audiences.

Of course the mixer ban has contributed to the reduction of campaigns. But I remember mixers weren't that active in campaigns until 3-4 years ago. There were always a few mixers but most of the campaigns were always run by casinos and ICOs, in the early years of the campaign boom (around 2016/2017) also altcoin projects like Waves were quite active. ICOs have past their hype and are also more heavily regulated now, so it's not surprising there are only few ICO campaigns left. But in general casinos almost always made up 50% or more of the active campaigns. So I don't see that big of a difference to the olden times.

In general privacy-respecting services which are not classic mixers (and thus are not banned, but which could have problems to advertise on the big platforms) should do well here. Perhaps also smaller campaigns with 2-3 slots could be an option.

[LTU_btc]

Nope, there was a porn campaign but it only last for 4 weeks.

It's kind of surprising why porn doesn't really attractive in this forum, I think nerds or geeks are high likely fall to porn addiction considering women didn't find nerds are attractive and they mostly alone.

Probably V-tuber or 2D porn could be an another option.

Maybe I don't remember, but I think we had few more NSFW campaigns in past, but it was already long time ago, so, I can be wrong. I think there was such kind of campaign related to one ICO and maybe one promoting web camera website. B ut offcourse, I can be wrong.
Anyway, it's possible that one or few porn kind of campaigns can appear, but somehow it's difficultto expect that such thing will become frequent here.

[BossJumong]

Mixer ban indeed affected the post count in the forum. It is foolish to think otherwise. We can discuss mixers but we can’t promote them which is how people can make money. No money = no incentive to post

It looks like the forum is on a constant decline. If more people lose interest in the forum, In a few years we might end up losing sig camps completely.

Has BitcoinTalk given any hints about allowing mixers again, not just mixer signature campaigns? What were the main reasons they restricted mixers in the first place? If mixers are reintroduced, how might it change the community view here on bitcointalk stance on privacy and security? What rules or measures could be put in place to ensure mixers are used responsibly and legally?

[mrust_mobile]

Mixer ban indeed affected the post count in the forum. It is foolish to think otherwise. We can discuss mixers but we can’t promote them which is how people can make money. No money = no incentive to post

It looks like the forum is on a constant decline. If more people lose interest in the forum, In a few years we might end up losing sig camps completely.

Has BitcoinTalk given any hints about allowing mixers again, not just mixer signature campaigns? What were the main reasons they restricted mixers in the first place? If mixers are reintroduced, how might it change the community view here on bitcointalk stance on privacy and security? What rules or measures could be put in place to ensure mixers are used responsibly and legally?

No. There are no hints. It looks like a permanent ban so far.

Theymos banned mixer ads/sigs because mixers usually are in bed with evil people who do shit like money laundering which is a federal crime in the US.

The admin don't wanna end up in jail. Life still can be good without mixers. Sometimes it is smart to avoid taking more risks. The risk/reward ratio for shilling mixers isn't worth it.