📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

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I understand that.
Like 10 years ago, there were more diversity in signature campaigns with "services", mixers and gambling campaigns. By services, I mean exchanges mostly.
Since 2017, other signature campaign appeared for short period just to announce their projects. Then mixers ban happened and basically gambling campaigns dominated the forum.
It is not the fault of the managers, not the fault of those who wants to announce their services.
You have to wait for rare non gambling campaigns to come or open a spot. The other option is to look outside the box.

I was not here in 2017, I joined in around 2021, since then many projects have came, like the ratio was almost equal, the mixers and the exchanges were always more than the gambling if I am not wrong, but now, I think there are 33+ gambling campaigns and maybe only one non gambling campaign, or maybe two.

It is nobody fault, I know they might not be getting other projects but casinos only.

It must be someone's fault. The current situation is the result of some earlier decisions. For example, the decision to ban mixers was made too easily (at least I got that impression). The removal of the richest campaigns certainly demotivated a certain number of members to participate more actively in the forum. Casinos, as the currently strongest industry, are now dominating, but they do not insist on the high quality that many "cheap" campaigns have brought.
It must be admitted that all of this had a significant impact on the decline in quality on the forum itself, which further disincentivizes other branches to promote themselves here.
I will not be surprised if in two years, for example, there are only a few signature campaigns. Not because of regulations, but because of the deterioration of the quality of discussions and the decline of the authority of this forum.

[BABY SHOES]

After news about Sportsbet leaving Bitcointalk, now I'm wondering what is the future of Gambling signature campaigns. When one of oldest and maybe one of the most profitable decide to exit grey markets, you understand that something isn't ok with regulations. Is it beginning of the end?

The future of the gambling signature campaign? Isn't it going to be fine even though Sportsbet has stopped advertising here?
But who will take over the league pool next season? Will another casino take over, given the high level of participation in this pool?
It seems that if Betpanda survives longer, this casino could be the destination, as they are now spending nearly $10K per week on the forum.

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For those like me who didn't hear about this news before this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562556.0
It is true that the regulation are becoming stricter regarding these types of activities in the web however I think that this issue is related to sportsbet and its mother company. More information will come later to explain the situation further so I will not jump to conclusion. Otherwise I think that this phenomenon is only limited to this company and there will not be a domino effect.

This is the crypto industry and everything concerning it changing in real time and while it's changing, everyone else involved in it has to also evolve or get left out. We saw the times when crypto exchanges required no mandatory KYC verification, when using crypto mixers was OK etc but now since the Governments have picked up interest in crypto. There is going to be a harder push for regulation from all corners.

[Faisal2202]

As much as they want it, it's the market that brings them most of the gambling ones. If they can bring the non gambling ones, they'd do that. We see some but it seems that the gambling market is more and that's why it is what we're getting more. The clients are the ones deciding to do the promotion and if the non gambling ones doesn't see any value on campaigns and they'd do the other strategies, we can't do anything about that.

Yes they also want them to come here, and provide there services and it is nobody fault that why casinos are only being promoted here it is an open market anyone can decide for themselves what is best for their company, and mangers have to decide what is best to them.

You could actually bring one here yourself instead of asking them too. I have seen members who were not campaign managers before manage a campaign and that's where their campaign management journey started from.

There is a lot of money in Gambling platforms so it's very understandable that there are so many such campaigns here.

Yes that's a great idea but brother really don't have enough time to manage all those things let alone the client hunting, I some time thought maybe I could find some clients and then introduce them to the managers so they would manage all the things but still I did not find it reliable and dropped the idea, as it was just a thought and I did not liked it.

Anyway, there is money for many here, and gambling projects have a lot I guess.

[Solosanz]

The future of the gambling signature campaign? Isn't it going to be fine even though Sportsbet has stopped advertising here?
But who will take over the league pool next season? Will another casino take over, given the high level of participation in this pool?
It seems that if Betpanda survives longer, this casino could be the destination, as they are now spending nearly $10K per week on the forum.

Rollbit takes it.

I see a big update from Betpanda, but we haven't see how long will their campaign with their current participants. Not all campaign last long after they make a big update, either they adjust the participant or stop it.

Rainbet have been aggressively run a promotion for signature campaign and in Games & Rounds, but I haven't see them in league pool.

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Rainbet have been aggressively run a promotion for signature campaign and in Games & Rounds, but I haven't see them in league pool.

Some pools have had the same sponsors for years, I believe they had priority when it came to sponsorship offers. The others simply did not have the opportunity to join. Now that Sportsbet has come out, I believe that there will be interested casinos to take their place as sponsors of such competitions.

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Rollbit takes it.

Yeah Rollbit is in the Champion League pool with 0.1BTC sponsorship.

I see a big update from Betpanda, but we haven't see how long will their campaign with their current participants. Not all campaign last long after they make a big update, either they adjust the participant or stop it.

How long the campaign will last we won't know... but hope Betpanda sticks with the promotion because the interest of gambling customers has fallen in love with Betpanda.

Rainbet have been aggressively run a promotion for signature campaign and in Games & Rounds, but I haven't see them in league pool.

Currently Rainbet with BSFL (S8)
Rainbet Fantasy Premier League (FPL)
Next season there is still a possibility of Rainbet entering the league pool.

[LTU_btc]

Some pools have had the same sponsors for years, I believe they had priority when it came to sponsorship offers. The others simply did not have the opportunity to join. Now that Sportsbet has come out, I believe that there will be interested casinos to take their place as sponsors of such competitions.

In recent years probably 90% of pools and competitions were under Sportsbet sponsorship. But already before last news about Sportsbet, there is more different websites sponsoring pools this season. Whale.io sponsor Ligue 1, Cross League Goal Madnesss, Rollbit Champions league, Rainbet Championship pool and etc. And maybe next season we will see even more different brands joining.
For me as player is a bit more convenient to have everything in one place, especially when you receive free bets. Butfrom other perspective, when there iscompetition, we can get bigger prize pool than when we choose from one potential sponsor.

Currently Rainbet with BSFL (S8)
Rainbet Fantasy Premier League (FPL)
Next season there is still a possibility of Rainbet entering the league pool.

And there is also Rainbet EFL Championship pool

[BABY SHOES]

Betpanda re-launched its members-only signature campaign plus now Cyber is also adding rank members to its campaign probably because LM initiated it.

As far as I know, it's been a long time since casino signature campaigns have accepted member ranks and most of them are from Full members and above.

Now there are more and more opportunities for members.

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As far as I know, it's been a long time since casino signature campaigns have accepted member ranks and most of them are from Full members and above.

Now there are more and more opportunities for members.

Funny or bad as it may sound, I have just seen some member ranked accounts waking up recently and trying to apply for the campaigns. Some have even had their passwords and emails changed, which probably means someone has started selling/buying accounts for the campaigns.

It also coincides with the fact that so many accounts have been recently busted for checking on signature campaigns and merit exchange.

[Little Mouse]

Betpanda re-launched its members-only signature campaign plus now Cyber is also adding rank members to its campaign probably because LM initiated it.

As far as I know, it's been a long time since casino signature campaigns have accepted member ranks and most of them are from Full members and above.

Now there are more and more opportunities for members.

It's pretty much hard to get higher-ranked users these days. I can barely fill all the slots for Full member and above. That's where I thought of getting some member rank users. Since there's no campaign for member rank, there's an opportunity to get some quality users.

[LTU_btc]

Funny or bad as it may sound, I have just seen some member ranked accounts waking up recently and trying to apply for the campaigns. Some have even had their passwords and emails changed, which probably means someone has started selling/buying accounts for the campaigns.

It also coincides with the fact that so many accounts have been recently busted for checking on signature campaigns and merit exchange.

Nothing surprising, I think it always was a thing that some users wake up after inactivity when available campaign appears. But I didn't knew that account sales is stillsignificant thing.

It's pretty much hard to get higher-ranked users these days. I can barely fill all the slots for Full member and above. That's where I thought of getting some member rank users. Since there's no campaign for member rank, there's an opportunity to get some quality users.

That's new for me. When one open slot in some campaign opens, I'm getting impression that maybe 20 or 30 user apply. And even with so many available users, I see quite many people accepted who aren't posting qulaity content.
But maybe I got wrong impression.

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That's new for me. When one open slot in some campaign opens, I'm getting impression that maybe 20 or 30 user apply. And even with so many available users, I see quite many people accepted who aren't posting qulaity content.
But maybe I got wrong impression.

To be honest, the campaigns are so many lately thanks to Vibrant campaign managers like LM. I don't recall a time when some many different campaigns would have a number of open slots every passing week, not even during the times of Bitcoin mixer campaigns. Perhaps that why some campaigns have been designed to accommodate even lower ranks.

Unfortunately, the abusers are also always waiting to strike, but the good thing is that they are easy to identify

[Forsyth Jones]

It's pretty much hard to get higher-ranked users these days. I can barely fill all the slots for Full member and above. That's where I thought of getting some member rank users. Since there's no campaign for member rank, there's an opportunity to get some quality users.

Man, up until about ~1.5 years ago, when a new campaign came up, the thread would be flooded with applications within 6 hours and already be on the second/third page. It was very difficult to get into a campaign, especially if the weekly payout was a bit higher.

That's new for me. When one open slot in some campaign opens, I'm getting impression that maybe 20 or 30 user apply. And even with so many available users, I see quite many people accepted who aren't posting qulaity content.
But maybe I got wrong impression.

I'm also a bit surprised, although I agree with him. On the other hand, this is good for lower-ranked members who are getting opportunities to participate in campaigns. I hope more campaigns with openings for members will appear (and that this doesn't compromise the quality of posts on the forum).

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Bitz's signature now I see has 3 active campaigns with 3 different managers, maybe Bitz's collaboration?

Honestly, this is the first time I've seen 3 campaigns with different managers... usually I only see switching managers but this time it's different, maybe this is a new breakthrough? 

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This is just a discussion not for any intention...

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Bitz's signature now I see has 3 active campaigns with 3 different managers, maybe Bitz's collaboration?

Honestly, this is the first time I've seen 3 campaigns with different managers... usually I only see switching managers but this time it's different, maybe this is a new breakthrough? 

Yes, this is very unusual. For example, I am very curious how they will evaluate the results of each manager individually. I guess he'll want to do that one day. As far as I can see, their campaign budgets are different for each campaign, and everything seems a bit disrespectful to the managers. It's as if they don't fully trust any of the three of them.

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They are probably planning to transfer the campaign from God of Thunder to one of the other managers, given the recent issues he had in the reputations board recently. Another thing is that LM emphasizes that the campaign maybe be short term as he is holding no funds. I think just one is going to be long term.

BC.game, Fortunejack and others previously had similar arrangements, only that they would just be 2 and not three.

[BABY SHOES]

and everything seems a bit disrespectful to the managers. It's as if they don't fully trust any of the three of them.

Both managers have made statements... that this is all an experiment by Bitz, maybe the evaluation results will see who will last.

They are probably planning to transfer the campaign from God of Thunder to one of the other managers, given the recent issues he had in the reputations board recently. Another thing is that LM emphasizes that the campaign maybe be short term as he is holding no funds. I think just one is going to be long term.

I saw in the God of Thunder campaign thread that the escrow address has been filled again, there is a possibility that God of Thunder will also last long despite some controversy on the reputation board.

BC.game, Fortunejack and others previously had similar arrangements, only that they would just be 2 and not three.

Bc.game... Ohh yes I remember that time, moved to another manager while the first campaign was still running if I'm not mistaken.

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Both managers have made statements... that this is all an experiment by Bitz, maybe the evaluation results will see who will last.

There are three managers in question.
Certainly, everyone will make a politically correct statement, "all an experiment". I still stand by the fact that it is disrespectful to the managers, because instead of researching the work and communication of which manager suits them best, and making a decision based on their own research, they decided on this method.

[God Of Thunder]

There are three managers in question.
Certainly, everyone will make a politically correct statement, "all an experiment". I still stand by the fact that it is disrespectful to the managers, because instead of researching the work and communication of which manager suits them best, and making a decision based on their own research, they decided on this method.

Let me share my perspective on this.
The Bitz team introduced a new manager to me a couple of weeks ago, and my previous contact person is no longer with them. The current contact person was not familiar with the forum. I was talking to them just a few days ago and told them about my forum situation, and they said, 'No worries!' They refilled the escrow wallet twice already.

They asked me how they could reach other managers, and I forwarded them to the service board. When I noticed another campaign on the service section, I reached out to my contact and asked if I should pause mine and return the escrowed funds. They said that my campaigns have nothing to do with others, so I should not pause the campaign. I don't find it disrespectful, but kinda competitive, which should be a good thing.