[Boxing]: Gonzalez vs Martinez

[Baofeng]

Ok, so another fight that we all have been waiting for. As confirmed by Eddie Hearn, there will be a third match between these 2 great super flyweights. This year, it was a classic back and forth war, but Estrada edging Chocolatito by split decision. So now it's 1-1. They will have to settle in the upcoming trilogy as to who is the best.



https://www.boxingscene.com/juan-francisco-estrada-vs-roman-chocolatito-gonzalez-trilogy-slated-oct-16-usa--158783

At this point I can't make up my mind, I wanted to see Chocolatito win by Estrada's volume punching can sway the judge in his favour in close rounds.

@bisdak40 - bro, what's you call on this? I know that you are a big fan of Chocolatito, hehehe

[btc_angela]

Good that Estrada is true to his words after he won the second fight. He said that he will give Gonzalez a third fight because it was really close. I will go with Estrada here, I think Gonzalez has shown wear and tear during the last fight. This is probably his last fight as he is no longer in his prime and probably just wanted to exit with a bang (good pay check).

[Kemarit]

Good that Estrada is true to his words after he won the second fight. He said that he will give Gonzalez a third fight because it was really close. I will go with Estrada here, I think Gonzalez has shown wear and tear during the last fight. This is probably his last fight as he is no longer in his prime and probably just wanted to exit with a bang (good pay check).

But Chocolatito throws more punches in the second fight, so I think as far as volume punching, it should be Gonzalez. So the second fight is really debatable, it's a UD win for Estrada but it can go either way. And with that said, this is still winnable for Chocolatito, and I don't think that age is a big factor for him as obviously he can still throw 100 punches per round.

[Dave1]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

[electronicash]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

gonzales must be the one who requested this 3rd fight. a win by decision makes people doubt the outcome, there has to be a KO to end it all.
i don't really follow the two. but looking into their records the two fights end with decisions which both must be a close fight.  both have wins to each other so as a tie-breaker a 3rd fight has to happen. 

[Obito]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

That's if that will be the same for the third fight, if Gonzalez knows that he will have a hard time in the UD, I think that going aggressive this time will be much better and aiming for a KO would be the goal at the least. Regarding Estrada, I think that he will probably take it easy on this fight and try to do the same performance last time because if the formula works, he will probably do it again.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

gonzales must be the one who requested this 3rd fight. a win by decision makes people doubt the outcome, there has to be a KO to end it all.
i don't really follow the two. but looking into their records the two fights end with decisions which both must be a close fight.  both have wins to each other so as a tie-breaker a 3rd fight has to happen. 

I don't think there will be KO to end the trilogy. The two doesn't have knock out power, they are really slugger, but who knows maybe Gonzalez can caught Estrada coming in and then boom, perfect timing.

You should look at there fights in youtube mate, it is really a war, both fights is a candidate for fight for the year (not sure if the 1st one won it already).

[Yaunfitda]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

That's if that will be the same for the third fight, if Gonzalez knows that he will have a hard time in the UD, I think that going aggressive this time will be much better and aiming for a KO would be the goal at the least. Regarding Estrada, I think that he will probably take it easy on this fight and try to do the same performance last time because if the formula works, he will probably do it again.

Maybe there's no adjustments in the third fight, they will start swinging at it again. Both are going to be aggressive. In the last fight, Gonzalez started being the aggressor so the first half belongs to him. Not sure if he gets tired, because it was Estrada's turn in the second half and that's what the judges saw. But it's a controversial decision as majority saw Gonzalez winning because of his aggressiveness early.

[Obito]

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Maybe there's no adjustments in the third fight, they will start swinging at it again. Both are going to be aggressive. In the last fight, Gonzalez started being the aggressor so the first half belongs to him. Not sure if he gets tired, because it was Estrada's turn in the second half and that's what the judges saw. But it's a controversial decision as majority saw Gonzalez winning because of his aggressiveness early.

Probably but there's definitely a mind game involved but we know that they will probably review their fight in tapes and the winning and losing side will try to see what they did wrong and what they did right and how can they capitalize more on the right things that they did.

[bisdak40]

@bisdak40 - bro, what's you call on this? I know that you are a big fan of Chocolatito, hehehe

These two deserve this trilogy or even a fourth fight if the third fight will still be close.

I'm a big fan of chocolatito as this man looks amazing in the back when he was still undefeated but this Estrada is the one whom I'll never forget as he is the one who dealt Milan Milendo the biggest loss of his career which was his first title fight if my memory serves me right  .

Roman Gonzales will still be the underdog going into this fight but still, I'm going to root for him as he have a high possibility to pull an upset this time.

[Jating]

Estrada will be the slight favorite going into this fight based on the strength that he beat Gonzalez last time. But it doesn't mean that he will have the advantage in the trilogy. For me it was Gonzalez who won the second fight, but the judges saw otherwise. So the same here, I will bet on Gonzalez by decision, could be unanimous.

That's if that will be the same for the third fight, if Gonzalez knows that he will have a hard time in the UD, I think that going aggressive this time will be much better and aiming for a KO would be the goal at the least. Regarding Estrada, I think that he will probably take it easy on this fight and try to do the same performance last time because if the formula works, he will probably do it again.

Maybe there's no adjustments in the third fight, they will start swinging at it again. Both are going to be aggressive. In the last fight, Gonzalez started being the aggressor so the first half belongs to him. Not sure if he gets tired, because it was Estrada's turn in the second half and that's what the judges saw. But it's a controversial decision as majority saw Gonzalez winning because of his aggressiveness early.

They, specially Roman Gonazalez, can't just go there and used his previous strategy because obviously he has lost. Maybe he needs to improve his stamina a bit or really look at Estrada's flaw that he can take advantage of. Just keep the phase and try to outdo the volume puncher in Estrada, but try to hit cleanly to impressed the judge so that in close quarters, he will get the nod and take the W.

[Baofeng]

@bisdak40 - bro, what's you call on this? I know that you are a big fan of Chocolatito, hehehe

These two deserve this trilogy or even a fourth fight if the third fight will still be close.

I'm a big fan of chocolatito as this man looks amazing in the back when he was still undefeated but this Estrada is the one whom I'll never forget as he is the one who dealt Milan Milendo the biggest loss of his career which was his first title fight if my memory serves me right  .

Roman Gonzales will still be the underdog going into this fight but still, I'm going to root for him as he have a high possibility to pull an upset this time.

I'm also thinking that maybe Roman Gonzalez being the underdog will have to used that as motivation and pull an upset and become a world champion again. This is very important fight for Gonzalez, because if he losses again, he is done. So. this is a legacy fight and a must win for him. Yeah, it if goes to on the judges scorecard and be razor thin close, we might see a 4th fight.

Take note that this is their second fight in a year, no mandatory, straight up 3rd fight.

[Cling18]

Estrada will surely be a favorite in this match but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be a tough fight for him. I've seen how aggressive Gonzalez is and I guess he still has to learn how to handle every punch that Gonzalez might throw. Gonzalez is well-motivated and he will surely do everything to win this fight. It's a match that we have to look forward.

[Kittygalore]

Estrada will surely be a favorite in this match but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't be a tough fight for him. I've seen how aggressive Gonzalez is and I guess he still has to learn how to handle every punch that Gonzalez might throw. Gonzalez is well-motivated and he will surely do everything to win this fight. It's a match that we have to look forward.

If Gonzalez continues to do the same thing in their next match, Estrada will probably do the same thing and will probably cause him to win again. Maybe he will do it differently this time or make a more aggressive approach than the last time so he can do some knockout.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

I enjoyed their last fight so hopefully but sides will give their best performance to make a good show of skill and power. Probably another UD will happen on this one which is good for me because for me it's not important who gets knocked out, what I want is a dragged fight that ends with both side still standing.

[btc_angela]

Good that Estrada is true to his words after he won the second fight. He said that he will give Gonzalez a third fight because it was really close. I will go with Estrada here, I think Gonzalez has shown wear and tear during the last fight. This is probably his last fight as he is no longer in his prime and probably just wanted to exit with a bang (good pay check).

But Chocolatito throws more punches in the second fight, so I think as far as volume punching, it should be Gonzalez. So the second fight is really debatable, it's a UD win for Estrada but it can go either way. And with that said, this is still winnable for Chocolatito, and I don't think that age is a big factor for him as obviously he can still throw 100 punches per round.

Both of them did become a volume puncher in their second fight. And I would agree that it can go either way, but Estrada seems to get the decision because of the way he touches Gonzalez. Fighters are good as their last fight, so I would say that Estrada would be the better condition as Gonzalez body might not be in the best shape because of his age.

[Yaunfitda]

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Maybe there's no adjustments in the third fight, they will start swinging at it again. Both are going to be aggressive. In the last fight, Gonzalez started being the aggressor so the first half belongs to him. Not sure if he gets tired, because it was Estrada's turn in the second half and that's what the judges saw. But it's a controversial decision as majority saw Gonzalez winning because of his aggressiveness early.

Probably but there's definitely a mind game involved but we know that they will probably review their fight in tapes and the winning and losing side will try to see what they did wrong and what they did right and how can they capitalize more on the right things that they did.

I'm not sure what do you mean my mind games, this is already their third fight, they have known the styles and weaknesses, so for me, as both are rivals in this weight class, they will just go at it just like the first 2 fights. And see who stands as the winner. I'm not seeing Gonzalez not being the aggressive and change like to be the counter puncher. And Estrada will not hold back, his style is to overwhelm his opponent with volumes.

[robelneo]

I have seen the two fights and it deserves a third fight and there's a possibility that it's not going to be a trilogy at all, the two fighters are made for each other, both fighters are prepared and ready to engage, Chocolatito is already old and slow on their last fight but he still can last a full 12 rounds I'll go for Estrada here, if the fight is like the one that they left behind in the second fight, then the fight could go either way.

[Vaculin]

Any betting odds already for this trilogy fight?

I'm not a big fan of these fighters, but the fact that they are in a trilogy, makes me think that they have a successful first two fights and this will be the final fight. Hopefully they'll be able to sell especially in PPV, we supported an exhibition fights, we need to support more the real fights like this.

[Baofeng]

Any betting odds already for this trilogy fight?

No odds yet mate, we will have to wait a bit.

I'm not a big fan of these fighters, but the fact that they are in a trilogy, makes me think that they have a successful first two fights and this will be the final fight. Hopefully they'll be able to sell especially in PPV, we supported an exhibition fights, we need to support more the real fights like this.

Yes, two great fights that can go either way, in the first fight, Gonzalez wins, but there are fans that says Estrada should be get the nod. In the rematch, Estrada won by a split decision, but there is also a case that Gonzalez should have won that fight. So it's really very close that's why a trilogy is needed to settle the score between the two warriors.