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April 15, 2022, 06:13:55 PM
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If Inoue can really have that clean win on this or it's going to be Donaire that will have his redemption win. Inoue is at advantage but the pressure is on him.

Inoue knows how to handle that pressure, please do remember that he made the right adjustment when they first met.
Now, it's a rematch, both of them wants to win especially for Donaire because he wants to retire as a champion, but let's see if the old Donaire could still make a surprise in the boxing world.

Inoue should win here, unless Donairel will hit Inoue that will put him to sleep.

Donaire was beaten by Inoue at his prime, the only edge of of Donaire on this match was his experience and data analysis on how he will counter Inoue as he is more motivated to win for his retirement and redemption. There might be a 3rd match for them if ever Donaire win on this match. The odds for Donaire is currently 4.2 which only show how far the difference in there stats. I will go for Inoue to win but my bet will go to Donaire for support.

That's a big question for me, like I said, Donaire can only win if he can KO Inoue because if they will make this fight last 12 rounds, Inoue will certainly get the vote of the judges like what happened in the first fight. however, I'm pretty sure that Inoue will be more careful knowing that Donaire still has the power to KO an opponent, so he would use the right strategy to beat the veteran champion.

Donaire's advantage on this rematch is his agility, his experience and his KO capabilities while trying to withstand the Monster of Japan's connecting punches. I agree that Donaire's only choice is to try and destroy Inoue as early as he can because if the fight goes until 12 rounds, he will get weary as the rounds goes by because Inoue still have the gas as he is still on his prime.

I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

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April 15, 2022, 09:09:33 PM
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I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

Hopefully, Donaire can win and will strip Inoue of his belts.
I am sure Donaire will be obligated to give a trilogy in case he wins, so let's see if we have a different outcome in this rematch.

BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin
I guess he should continue trash talking after he can defend his title.
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April 15, 2022, 09:30:10 PM
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BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin

He don't have to wait yet until the fight with Paul Butler finished. He can only wait for the winner of this match between Inoue and Donaire, after he successfully defend his WBA Title against the challenger, Paul Butler. I'm sure he's not thinking about that first since there's a task first that needs to be solved. If Donaire wins, you are right that a trilogy will take place against him and Inoue. Casimero, if he wins against Butler, has to wait for long unless he find a way to manage first to fight Donaire and let Inoue wait instead.

Casimero's fight is about to take place, this is going a big and entertaining fight then few months from now, another good fight between Donaire and Inoue will take place.

What a good fights on our lineup to watch.
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April 15, 2022, 09:56:31 PM
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I will cut your discussion guys about age issues and like to discuss this interesting topic.

If you guys noticed on the last fight of Donaire against a much younger like over 10+ years of age and in its prime, we saw the speed of Donaire doing some multiple jabs at the same time while connecting some strong punch as a combination. What Donaire did is, he just continue with that strategy until Gaballo feels the pain in his body then eventually he can't handle it anymore and goes down.

That strategy of Donaire requires a big amount of stamina and yet he managed to do it even already not in his prime. That shows us that an active boxer will defy his age. That strategy can work against Inoue but the amount of stamina should be doubled or tripled because after all, Naoya Inoue is on a different level and the most dangerous boxer currently at 117.

We all know how intense he is when he goes in training and stamina is one of things they take care to so for this its mot surprising to see him very  on this fight as Nonito is known to be a well disciplined fighter. Also he's fighting a bigger opponent which defeats him before so for sure there's no question about how hard his preparation taken for this fight and for sure he aim to take revenge then take the head of Inoue before he retires.

In terms of determination, we cannot really fathom how long and how far would Donaire take to step-up his game more especially for the fact that he had been defeated during their first encounter. That was his motivation and he will seek revenge knowing that Inoue could feel his punches, so he should connect more often than he did last time, I mean both of them will improve and we will see an another version to the both of them. This fight is surely an entertaining to see because both of them is willing to go for a toe-to-toe fight.
They would really be trying to improve on what they do have failed to do on that first encounter and on what are their lapses or trying out to enhance for them to take advantage for the next fight.

Donaire do really sees about the chance on taking down Inoue since he could really see that his punches are solid enough if we do base on previous after-fight physical appearance.
WE boxing fans are really that aiming for a good fight to look at and entertaining and this two boxers could really definitely do on what we are really liking to see.

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April 15, 2022, 11:06:50 PM
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But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

We need to wait first for the results of:

John Riel Casimero vs. Paul Butler
Naoya Inoue vs. Nonito Donaire


Once we the see results of this match, the winners will likely face each other in the last quarter of the year.

But in the case of a Donaire win against Inoue, a trilogy should be expected to happen.
Of course when the fight is even and the fight ended in a  decision and it's not a very dominant expect a trilogy just like all the other trilogies so I'm sure if that happens Donaire will opt to fight Inoue than fight Casimero who he think is a spoiled brat, I'm sure Casimero is wishing a win for Inoue so it will be him and Inoue as the last two men standing between the three, Inoue cannot continue ignoring Casimero.
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April 15, 2022, 11:20:57 PM
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If Inoue can really have that clean win on this or it's going to be Donaire that will have his redemption win. Inoue is at advantage but the pressure is on him.

Inoue knows how to handle that pressure, please do remember that he made the right adjustment when they first met.
Now, it's a rematch, both of them wants to win especially for Donaire because he wants to retire as a champion, but let's see if the old Donaire could still make a surprise in the boxing world.

Inoue should win here, unless Donairel will hit Inoue that will put him to sleep.
Yeah, he had won their first match and he adjusted but also looking at the impact done by Donaire, that's totally devastating.

Well, I have my bias on this match and I'm on Donaire's side. I'm sure that he had been thinking or had the strategy already on how he was going to put him on the floor asleep.

As a fan, we do think of that result but as usual, there will be a moment of surprise that shall come by that match day.

Donaire still has that solid combo and he shows that from his last fight, if Inoue will be careless, he won't get only a cut in his eyes

but a possible KO might upset him. If Donaire maintains his stamina, which I'm hoping that he can do due to his age, but if ever his winning

chance is still good. Both sides are aiming to win. Inoue to continue his dominance from this division, while for Donaire it would be an

honor to retire with such additional accomplishment.
That aim to win to have a good record before retirement is really one of the best career goals that a boxer can be.

It's all about how he'll execute his plans and he's very responsible for himself so that's going to be a very big possibility for him. But as a fan, I don't also ignore the fact that Inoue's good.

From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

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April 16, 2022, 10:56:36 AM
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From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.

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That aim to win to have a good record before retirement is really one of the best career goals that a boxer can be.

Yeah, and I hope Donaire gets this win.


It's all about how he'll execute his plans and he's very responsible for himself so that's going to be a very big possibility for him. But as a fan, I don't also ignore the fact that Inoue's good.

I hope he won't get careless or fall in love with 1 punch KO style.  I often see his fight get messy when he got carried away by this intention of 1 punch KO'ing his opponent.

From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Definitely, preparation goes for both fighters.  I am sure Inoue had learned a lesson from the previous fight and will use it to have an advantage in this fight.




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April 16, 2022, 04:24:49 PM
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I will cut your discussion guys about age issues and like to discuss this interesting topic.

If you guys noticed on the last fight of Donaire against a much younger like over 10+ years of age and in its prime, we saw the speed of Donaire doing some multiple jabs at the same time while connecting some strong punch as a combination. What Donaire did is, he just continue with that strategy until Gaballo feels the pain in his body then eventually he can't handle it anymore and goes down.

That strategy of Donaire requires a big amount of stamina and yet he managed to do it even already not in his prime. That shows us that an active boxer will defy his age. That strategy can work against Inoue but the amount of stamina should be doubled or tripled because after all, Naoya Inoue is on a different level and the most dangerous boxer currently at 117.

We all know how intense he is when he goes in training and stamina is one of things they take care to so for this its mot surprising to see him very  on this fight as Nonito is known to be a well disciplined fighter. Also he's fighting a bigger opponent which defeats him before so for sure there's no question about how hard his preparation taken for this fight and for sure he aim to take revenge then take the head of Inoue before he retires.

In terms of determination, we cannot really fathom how long and how far would Donaire take to step-up his game more especially for the fact that he had been defeated during their first encounter. That was his motivation and he will seek revenge knowing that Inoue could feel his punches, so he should connect more often than he did last time, I mean both of them will improve and we will see an another version to the both of them. This fight is surely an entertaining to see because both of them is willing to go for a toe-to-toe fight.
They would really be trying to improve on what they do have failed to do on that first encounter and on what are their lapses or trying out to enhance for them to take advantage for the next fight.

Donaire do really sees about the chance on taking down Inoue since he could really see that his punches are solid enough if we do base on previous after-fight physical appearance.
WE boxing fans are really that aiming for a good fight to look at and entertaining and this two boxers could really definitely do on what we are really liking to see.

Yes, I agree that both of them is taking some high to extreme measures to make sure that those mistakes and lapses that they did in their first encounter would not happen again in this fight and both of them surely have those knowledge on what are the points they needed to increase as they already know each others weaknesses and strengths. Nonetheless, this will be an entertaining fight to see and just like their first encounter, this will be also full of explosives.

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April 16, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
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I will cut your discussion guys about age issues and like to discuss this interesting topic.

If you guys noticed on the last fight of Donaire against a much younger like over 10+ years of age and in its prime, we saw the speed of Donaire doing some multiple jabs at the same time while connecting some strong punch as a combination. What Donaire did is, he just continue with that strategy until Gaballo feels the pain in his body then eventually he can't handle it anymore and goes down.

That strategy of Donaire requires a big amount of stamina and yet he managed to do it even already not in his prime. That shows us that an active boxer will defy his age. That strategy can work against Inoue but the amount of stamina should be doubled or tripled because after all, Naoya Inoue is on a different level and the most dangerous boxer currently at 117.

We all know how intense he is when he goes in training and stamina is one of things they take care to so for this its mot surprising to see him very  on this fight as Nonito is known to be a well disciplined fighter. Also he's fighting a bigger opponent which defeats him before so for sure there's no question about how hard his preparation taken for this fight and for sure he aim to take revenge then take the head of Inoue before he retires.

In terms of determination, we cannot really fathom how long and how far would Donaire take to step-up his game more especially for the fact that he had been defeated during their first encounter. That was his motivation and he will seek revenge knowing that Inoue could feel his punches, so he should connect more often than he did last time, I mean both of them will improve and we will see an another version to the both of them. This fight is surely an entertaining to see because both of them is willing to go for a toe-to-toe fight.
They would really be trying to improve on what they do have failed to do on that first encounter and on what are their lapses or trying out to enhance for them to take advantage for the next fight.

Donaire do really sees about the chance on taking down Inoue since he could really see that his punches are solid enough if we do base on previous after-fight physical appearance.
WE boxing fans are really that aiming for a good fight to look at and entertaining and this two boxers could really definitely do on what we are really liking to see.

Yes, I agree that both of them is taking some high to extreme measures to make sure that those mistakes and lapses that they did in their first encounter would not happen again in this fight and both of them surely have those knowledge on what are the points they needed to increase as they already know each others weaknesses and strengths. Nonetheless, this will be an entertaining fight to see and just like their first encounter, this will be also full of explosives.

Donaire also give his best during his first fight with Inoue. He did succeed against Gaballo and the other guy because he does have the goal to get another chance of rematch with Inoue and that's enough of a motivation. 

What is his goal after Inoue 2 would motivate him more but if this is his last due to his age he might not be able to make it again. Inoue is fast and determined to win it all. He isn't called Monster if he isn't a monster.

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April 16, 2022, 05:09:39 PM
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Donaire also give his best during his first fight with Inoue. He did succeed against Gaballo and the other guy because he does have the goal to get another chance of rematch with Inoue and that's enough of a motivation. 

What is his goal after Inoue 2 would motivate him more but if this is his last due to his age he might not be able to make it again. Inoue is fast and determined to win it all. He isn't called Monster if he isn't a monster.
But not the best as he could unlike on his prime years. Inoue is seems like a perfect fighter in the bantam weight division. If Donaire can't make a knockdown or KO on their next fight, chance of him winning is less. And it will be his last chance to prove his stance. His power, speed, foot work become slower and slower year after year unlike Pacquiao that almost never change even on +40 years of age, good for him he retired.

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April 16, 2022, 05:20:14 PM
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Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.

Their last faced off also helps them as fighter to figure out what are their shortcomings during that fight or what else they can improve in themselves to keep on winning the battle. I believe Donaire has still the strength to fight Inoue despite his age gap but I will not going to set aside the possibility that Inoue will still dominate this battle and if that is the case then Donaire should definitely prepare for their second battle of Inoue. I am so excited to watch their rematch and see who's still the winner between the two great fighter.
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April 16, 2022, 05:50:24 PM
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I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

Hopefully, Donaire can win and will strip Inoue of his belts.
I am sure Donaire will be obligated to give a trilogy in case he wins, so let's see if we have a different outcome in this rematch.

BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin
I guess he should continue trash talking after he can defend his title.

That is still undecided though if Donaire can really strip Inoue this time, I would not deny that I'm for Donaire but it is really hard to deny Inoue's prowess and we've saw that Donaire is struggling to hurt Inoue because the latter is trying not to feel the punches from Donaire. But in this match we will see a different version of them as they will improve more.

If Donaire will manange to defeat Inoue here, I agree that a trilogy will happen.

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April 16, 2022, 08:32:40 PM
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Donaire also give his best during his first fight with Inoue. He did succeed against Gaballo and the other guy because he does have the goal to get another chance of rematch with Inoue and that's enough of a motivation. 

What is his goal after Inoue 2 would motivate him more but if this is his last due to his age he might not be able to make it again. Inoue is fast and determined to win it all. He isn't called Monster if he isn't a monster.
He wont be called a monster for nothing but as you can see in all of his fights which turns out that he isnt really that tired that much nor having taking lots of damage or being punched but with Donaire you could really

see that he was bit struggling and even take some injuries on that time which did really make things a little bit harder for him.For sure he would really be trying to avoid as much as he could on this upcoming rematch.
This is something that he should really be that confident even though Donaire is old but he had still some power that could take him down if he would really be that careless.

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April 16, 2022, 09:52:58 PM
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Donaire also give his best during his first fight with Inoue. He did succeed against Gaballo and the other guy because he does have the goal to get another chance of rematch with Inoue and that's enough of a motivation.  

What is his goal after Inoue 2 would motivate him more but if this is his last due to his age he might not be able to make it again. Inoue is fast and determined to win it all. He isn't called Monster if he isn't a monster.
He wont be called a monster for nothing but as you can see in all of his fights which turns out that he isnt really that tired that much nor having taking lots of damage or being punched but with Donaire you could really

see that he was bit struggling and even take some injuries on that time which did really make things a little bit harder for him.For sure he would really be trying to avoid as much as he could on this upcoming rematch.
This is something that he should really be that confident even though Donaire is old but he had still some power that could take him down if he would really be that careless.

Donaire struggle a lot during their fights cause that monster inuoe is a very skillful and very strategic fighter that can adjust the weather and flow of the match even if donaire is a veteran but still his strategic moves won't be able to defeat the momster. And this must be donaire's lesson and he must practice the moves and fighting skill of inuoe to claim the victory in the rematch. All he need is to be careful cause the monsters can do an extra punches to knock him down.

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April 16, 2022, 10:29:09 PM
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From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.
That will be the aim of Inoue this time.

He has the spirit of possibly winning again for this rematch but he would do things that will make him avoid the same scene where he's been totally damaged by Donaire.

It's all about how he'll execute his plans and he's very responsible for himself so that's going to be a very big possibility for him. But as a fan, I don't also ignore the fact that Inoue's good.
I hope he won't get careless or fall in love with 1 punch KO style.  I often see his fight get messy when he got carried away by this intention of 1 punch KO'ing his opponent.
He'll be careful but at the same time would also feel tense and hungry to win this match. But yeah, hopefully he won't be careless when they're in face to face.

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April 16, 2022, 10:57:56 PM
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From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.
That will be the aim of Inoue this time.

He has the spirit of possibly winning again for this rematch but he would do things that will make him avoid the same scene where he's been totally damaged by Donaire.

It's all about how he'll execute his plans and he's very responsible for himself so that's going to be a very big possibility for him. But as a fan, I don't also ignore the fact that Inoue's good.
I hope he won't get careless or fall in love with 1 punch KO style.  I often see his fight get messy when he got carried away by this intention of 1 punch KO'ing his opponent.
He'll be careful but at the same time would also feel tense and hungry to win this match. But yeah, hopefully he won't be careless when they're in face to face.

the bookies are clearly favouring Inoue on this match. but if you feel Donaire will win this fight this time around, the odds are indeed good to bet on. the prep and strategies will matter here even if we say, Inoue is much younger than donaire. we have seen the power of donaire. so i believe we can't ignore the possibility that he may give damage to inoue.

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April 16, 2022, 11:31:17 PM
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From their last match, it's not only Donaire that got that sense of being stronger this time but it's also Inoue as well.

Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.
That will be the aim of Inoue this time.

He has the spirit of possibly winning again for this rematch but he would do things that will make him avoid the same scene where he's been totally damaged by Donaire.

It's all about how he'll execute his plans and he's very responsible for himself so that's going to be a very big possibility for him. But as a fan, I don't also ignore the fact that Inoue's good.
I hope he won't get careless or fall in love with 1 punch KO style.  I often see his fight get messy when he got carried away by this intention of 1 punch KO'ing his opponent.
He'll be careful but at the same time would also feel tense and hungry to win this match. But yeah, hopefully he won't be careless when they're in face to face.

the bookies are clearly favouring Inoue on this match. but if you feel Donaire will win this fight this time around, the odds are indeed good to bet on. the prep and strategies will matter here even if we say, Inoue is much younger than donaire. we have seen the power of donaire. so i believe we can't ignore the possibility that he may give damage to inoue.
Yup.

That's a better thing than if the bookies are in favor of Inoue. But the match is still going to take time so that could possibly change which I always get to see whenever there's a big match that's about to come.

It is Inoue that's being favored now but we're going to see how huge the change will be when the match is getting nearer.

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April 17, 2022, 12:49:43 PM
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Of course, both of them will make an adjustment as not only Donaire sees that something has to be improved but Inoue as well. Inoue will prevent himself to get injured again, and he has to be careful and at the same time use a strategy that is effective to dominate Donaire.

Their last faced off also helps them as fighter to figure out what are their shortcomings during that fight or what else they can improve in themselves to keep on winning the battle. I believe Donaire has still the strength to fight Inoue despite his age gap but I will not going to set aside the possibility that Inoue will still dominate this battle and if that is the case then Donaire should definitely prepare for their second battle of Inoue. I am so excited to watch their rematch and see who's still the winner between the two great fighter.

Donaire would want that, probably his camp asks for this rematch so he could have another chance to avenge his loss and be a unified champion. Though it isn't easy for him to win, considering how he beat his previous opponent, that should give him better odds compared to the first fight.

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April 17, 2022, 12:55:22 PM
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I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

Hopefully, Donaire can win and will strip Inoue of his belts.
I am sure Donaire will be obligated to give a trilogy in case he wins, so let's see if we have a different outcome in this rematch.

BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin
I guess he should continue trash talking after he can defend his title.

That is still undecided though if Donaire can really strip Inoue this time, I would not deny that I'm for Donaire but it is really hard to deny Inoue's prowess and we've saw that Donaire is struggling to hurt Inoue because the latter is trying not to feel the punches from Donaire. But in this match we will see a different version of them as they will improve more.

If Donaire will manange to defeat Inoue here, I agree that a trilogy will happen.

I think majority of us here are Donaire fans, we have seen him grow in the last 10-15 years becoming one of the best. But yes, it will be a very hard fight for him against teh Monster which for me is not yet hitting his prime years during their first fight and yet he already defeated Donaire. So he has improved a lot since then that's why Donaire's chance are slim but he won't take that, he will fight and wanted to test Inoue again.
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