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July 08, 2021, 03:56:45 AM
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Countries are still incentivizing their citizens to take the jab in hopes of reaching herd immunity before the year 2021 ends. Not really surprised that they'd do this since there has been a resurgence of antivaxxers after several hoaxes resurfaced stating that vaccines are just a tool for the government to spy on their citizens. It's just a shame that the governments have to resort to this technique in order to protect their citizens, but if it works then it works, I guess.

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July 08, 2021, 06:31:45 AM
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Countries are still incentivizing their citizens to take the jab in hopes of reaching herd immunity before the year 2021 ends. Not really surprised that they'd do this since there has been a resurgence of antivaxxers after several hoaxes resurfaced stating that vaccines are just a tool for the government to spy on their citizens. It's just a shame that the governments have to resort to this technique in order to protect their citizens, but if it works then it works, I guess.

Those hoaxers who don't have any spare time to confirm the news they shared on social media are the one needs to get the vaccine first. since they are not really helping to solve this world problem and they still have time to spread hoaxes. Anyway, as I see in the AGT and the NBA, things have already gone normal for them. it's like nothing has happened everyone has returned to their jobs and when you look at the fans almost all of them do not wear a mask. unlike in our city, people will get a penalty of about $10 each if he caught outside without wearing a face shield. Yeah! our city governments take advantage of the situation.

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July 08, 2021, 08:46:34 AM
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I've also heard another country before who offers the same for their citizens.

Two notes :
- Why the prize pool is only limited to Pfizer vaccine? So if someone got another vaccine like moderna or spotnick he won't be eligible for win ?
- Isn't better for a poor country with only 35% of the population vaccinated to buy more vaccines and enforce the vaccination (many methods to do this) instead of calling the greed ?

Good observation.
Most probably Pfizer had this offer for their government to use their product for mass vaccination so people would be encouraged to take a dose. This is a win-win situation for the Pfizer. If they'll get the majority of the dose for the people, then $260k is nothing compared to the amount of market they'll get.
This is nothing but a marketing strategy amidst the growing number of competitors as vaccines are considered as necessities in this pandemic time.

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July 08, 2021, 09:00:06 AM
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Saw this quite late and it boggles my mind to think that in half of the world, people would kill for vaccines. In another half, people are getting paid and incentivized to take it.

I'd be taking pfizer anyway if I could access, not to mention getting a lottery! Antivaxxers I don't get also, they live such privileged lives.

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July 08, 2021, 09:40:37 AM
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Countries are still incentivizing their citizens to take the jab in hopes of reaching herd immunity before the year 2021 ends. Not really surprised that they'd do this since there has been a resurgence of antivaxxers after several hoaxes resurfaced stating that vaccines are just a tool for the government to spy on their citizens. It's just a shame that the governments have to resort to this technique in order to protect their citizens, but if it works then it works, I guess.
Some governments give incentives to their people who are vaccinated, but some others not.
Hopefully, people can think what the advantage of the vaccine to their body so they want to get vaccinated.
I see the news about anti-vaxxers saying they do not want to be vaccinated, and some follow them.
If they do not want to be vaccinated, they do not have to ask other people to follow them because that will be up to them.
People need to concern about their health and if their government asks them to be vaccinated, they should follow.

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July 08, 2021, 09:51:16 AM
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Good observation.
Most probably Pfizer had this offer for their government to use their product for mass vaccination so people would be encouraged to take a dose. This is a win-win situation for the Pfizer. If they'll get the majority of the dose for the people, then $260k is nothing compared to the amount of market they'll get.
This is nothing but a marketing strategy amidst the growing number of competitors as vaccines are considered as necessities in this pandemic time.



Win-Win  indeed for pfizer. As if majorities will take this vaccines,

The amount of money that they'll going to collect from the government is far higher than the amount of lottery jackpot that they are offering.

Marketing strategy that will cause them good amount of compensation, this kind of marketing strategy mostly attracts people to use and support the product.
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July 08, 2021, 01:03:42 PM
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Also when talking about Pfizer never forget who they really are
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizer-fined-107-million-for-epilepsy-drug-price-hike-1481104073
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32657347
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/september/pfizer_settlement_090209
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/pfizer-hcp-corp-agrees-pay-15-million-penalty-resolve-foreign-bribery-investigation
Pfizer's no charity guys. I don't buy they wanna save the world and looking at the high adverse reaction rate of their thing (that's no vaccine, but sperimental drug) I'm more and more convinced not to get the jab.
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July 08, 2021, 03:59:26 PM
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This is also gambling with zero luck, I bet no one is going to win anything other than those small weekly rewards, those big rewards will go to someone known to the government officials because Money is everything in this world. Personally I am not going to get any vaccines unless its an emergency situation.
Lottery with very small chance of winning the jackpot? this will only sounds like fooling people to believe that someone will win but the truth is they will not.
Why instead of making it in lottery , why do it as Rapple? so there will be a sure winner of the jackpot  Grin
But of course the government will not give this a chance for a reason that they will spend big money while the truth s they have none because of the pandemic effect.
i think that was raffle not rapple but your correct that theres always a sure winner in raffles but not in lotteries but why cant the people suggest to make it as a raffle instead of lotteries before they be able to participate ?
but governments can lower the prize a little bit because they would have run out of funds and they could use the funds in more important situations  than in games
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July 08, 2021, 04:54:45 PM
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Interesting that people don't get the vaccine because they believe it will present side effects on their bodies, but if the government offers them a tiny chance to win a car they suddenly change their minds and get vaccinated even if it's going to present those same side effects. If I were fully convinced vaccines were harmful I wouldn't take it even if I was the only competitor of the lottery, because health comes first.

If people are going to engage themselves on this campaign that is not because they didn't want to vaccinate before, that was just they were too lazy to do it for free...

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July 08, 2021, 10:45:26 PM
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Saw this quite late and it boggles my mind to think that in half of the world, people would kill for vaccines. In another half, people are getting paid and incentivized to take it.

I'd be taking pfizer anyway if I could access, not to mention getting a lottery! Antivaxxers I don't get also, they live such privileged lives.
There will always be those that are against to vaccine and likes to read more conspiracy theories. That won't change their lives and minds but they would love to have a debate against what's going to help the world a better place again through defeating covid-19.
I don't know where it's started that these theories have circulated on the web and putting fear on those curious folks that have also searched for the same conspricies. Well, you get a vaccine and you get a chance with the lottery only if you're in Poland and other countries that have this promo.  Grin

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July 08, 2021, 10:52:22 PM
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As usual we would really be ending up on like guinea pigs or simply test subjects.Efficacy wont really be proven out if not tested and we know that vaccines should be at least 5 years on observation before it would produce to masses but look at on how short they had made out that vaccine and distributed? People does have their own will though neither they would mind that much on the risk or would typically risk out their lives on taking a shot even they do know that high risk is there rather than doing nothing at all and would have more bigger risk on getting infected with the virus.Its just a matter of choice though but having that kind
of initiative from the government is a bit recommendable.

If you don't want to get a vaccine shot, then it is your choice. But later, don't blame the government if someone in your family dies from COVID. The daily number of deaths from COVID has almost reduced to zero in countries such as Israel, United Kingdom and the United States, which have achieved more than 50% vaccination coverage. And your demand that the vaccine should be on 5 years observation is really absurd. Is there any scientific basis for such a claim? For a pandemic that is killing millions of people right now, how you are going to fight it with a vaccine that will be approved in 2026?
Of course there would be such rush because of the pandemic is killing hundreds of thousands or already millions and its just normal that companies will really find cure asap
the main point that im trying to say here is on the side effects.Also, im much aware of the risk on not taking shots and also even my family does have hindrance or hesitation
in doing so because of that probability but since this is a self will decision then im not really stopping anyone inside in the family on getting some vaccine.
Its their choice but at least i do make out some explanation in regards to that.

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July 09, 2021, 10:38:45 AM
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I don't know where it's started that these theories have circulated on the web and putting fear on those curious folks that have also searched for the same conspricies. Well, you get a vaccine and you get a chance with the lottery only if you're in Poland and other countries that have this promo.  Grin

Honestly, not very much different from all the crypto conspiracy theories being pushed around. Yes, this is a trial drug for the most, yes, there isn't enough clinical trial, yes, a lot of stuff but also yes, survival rates are higher if you have the vaccine and this disease is bad enough that we should take the risk to ourselves, to protect others.

Anyway, let's see who wins the Poland lottery then.

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Saw this quite late and it boggles my mind to think that in half of the world, people would kill for vaccines. In another half, people are getting paid and incentivized to take it.

I'd be taking pfizer anyway if I could access, not to mention getting a lottery! Antivaxxers I don't get also, they live such privileged lives.
That's such a cruel but accurate statement. In some countries, people are begging for vaccination but the doses are not enough to satisfy the demand while in other parts of the world, there are countries that have enough but the people are feared/lazy enough to avoid it and the governments have to run such schemes. Such a huge disparity in vaccine distribution.

I appreciate the effort to put such a scheme in place but people must have a self-understanding of the situation too and shouldn't be offered prizes or lotteries to get the vaccination. It almost feels like the governments are getting something when people get vaccinated.

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July 09, 2021, 09:46:01 PM
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I don't know where it's started that these theories have circulated on the web and putting fear on those curious folks that have also searched for the same conspricies. Well, you get a vaccine and you get a chance with the lottery only if you're in Poland and other countries that have this promo.  Grin

Honestly, not very much different from all the crypto conspiracy theories being pushed around. Yes, this is a trial drug for the most, yes, there isn't enough clinical trial, yes, a lot of stuff but also yes, survival rates are higher if you have the vaccine and this disease is bad enough that we should take the risk to ourselves, to protect others.

Anyway, let's see who wins the Poland lottery then.
I dont really mind about on whose the winner of that Lottery because you dont even know if those draws are transparent or not which you cant assure if its fair at all in the first place and if yes
then im not really that much interested on that one and do acts out like a normal day lottery which not really that much getting some interest.

Mentioning about trial drug then is true and its up to someone if they do let themselves  to be test subjects and i cant blame out some people to be that paranoid on not taking
it because of those known issues or rumors about side effects.

It is normal but important thing that death rate isnt high.

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July 09, 2021, 10:54:09 PM
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I don't know where it's started that these theories have circulated on the web and putting fear on those curious folks that have also searched for the same conspricies. Well, you get a vaccine and you get a chance with the lottery only if you're in Poland and other countries that have this promo.  Grin

Honestly, not very much different from all the crypto conspiracy theories being pushed around. Yes, this is a trial drug for the most, yes, there isn't enough clinical trial, yes, a lot of stuff but also yes, survival rates are higher if you have the vaccine and this disease is bad enough that we should take the risk to ourselves, to protect others.

Anyway, let's see who wins the Poland lottery then.
Well, enough with those conspiracies and let's wait who's going to be the lucky guy that will win this lottery. He got the vaccine and wins the lottery. He can go everywhere as he's fully vaccinated already and that gives the incentive for those people that took their decision to take the vaccine. What's more exciting is what are the next countries, states and localities that will do the same incentive for encouraging their people to take the shot.

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July 09, 2021, 11:16:05 PM
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Of course there would be such rush because of the pandemic is killing hundreds of thousands or already millions and its just normal that companies will really find cure asap
the main point that im trying to say here is on the side effects.Also, im much aware of the risk on not taking shots and also even my family does have hindrance or hesitation
in doing so because of that probability but since this is a self will decision then im not really stopping anyone inside in the family on getting some vaccine.
Its their choice but at least i do make out some explanation in regards to that.


That's the point, it's there rights to whatever decision they've got, letting them do what things they think that best for them.

On your part, if you think that you are not ready or you are still worried with the side effects which normal since we are all new to this virus and even vaccines are now available but the long-term side effects will only reflects which is no one knows really  if there is or there's none.

maybe why the government allow this lotterry to attract more people to take this vaccines, just saying..
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July 10, 2021, 03:34:02 PM
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It was to be expected that the side-effects of the vaccines were going to be higher than usual, after all most vaccines need many years or even a decade to be developed in order for the vaccine to be made as safe as possible but since this was impossible to do people have to take a decision, do they take the risk of taking the vaccine or they refuse with the chance that sooner or later they will get the virus and they will have to face it without any help from the vaccine?
As usual we would really be ending up on like guinea pigs or simply test subjects.Efficacy wont really be proven out if not tested and we know that vaccines should be at least 5 years on observation before it would produce to masses but look at on how short they had made out that vaccine and distributed? People does have their own will though neither they would mind that much on the risk or would typically risk out their lives on taking a shot even they do know that high risk is there rather than doing nothing at all and would have more bigger risk on getting infected with the virus.Its just a matter of choice though but having that kind
of initiative from the government is a bit recommendable.
It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.
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It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.

I have not read news of people dropping dead after they got a vaccine do you have an article for this, this is scary if this true, some people react negatively to a particular vaccine but not to the point that they are dropping dead, and if this is true the percentage is very low based on their study, so far the vaccination is a huge success even if the virus is mutating.
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It is sad but this is the way it is, it was impossible to expect that this vaccine was going to be developed for 5 years before it was released to the population, this is why if some people oppose to get the vaccine I do not criticize them as the risks are real, this is why we hear stories of people dropping dead a few minutes after they got the vaccine as the vaccine has a higher risk than usual, but that being said as soon as I get the opportunity to get the vaccine I will get it.

I have not read news of people dropping dead after they got a vaccine do you have an article for this, this is scary if this true, some people react negatively to a particular vaccine but not to the point that they are dropping dead, and if this is true the percentage is very low based on their study, so far the vaccination is a huge success even if the virus is mutating.

I haven't found an article that reports that someone died after being injected with the vaccine, if there is, I think there are other factors that caused
the person to die after getting the vaccine. Because before the vaccine is distributed, it will be tested properly, so I have a little doubt that the vaccine
can cause someone to die. It is possible that people who have been injected with the vaccine only feel mild symptoms, and do not cause death.
Until now the injection of vaccines in several countries has proven effective, starting to control the spread of the virus, although it has not been able
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July 10, 2021, 10:43:34 PM
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I haven't found an article that reports that someone died after being injected with the vaccine, if there is, I think there are other factors that caused
the person to die after getting the vaccine. Because before the vaccine is distributed, it will be tested properly, so I have a little doubt that the vaccine
can cause someone to die. It is possible that people who have been injected with the vaccine only feel mild symptoms, and do not cause death.
Until now the injection of vaccines in several countries has proven effective, starting to control the spread of the virus, although it has not been able
to completely remove the virus.
There are actually reports that have been romanticized by the medias that after getting jabs, those people died. But they don't highlight what's the actual reason of it, like those adults that have taken the shot and then afterwards they got the side effect and eventually died.
Most vaccines are still in the trial phase but they've been assured that they're effective to fight against the covid-19 virus. And there's much better result with those countries that got most of their citizens vaccinated and this is what Poland is trying to do.

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