ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - discussion thread

[T1HGO]

Spirit needs a massive overhauld of this roster honestly. Not gonna shit on Batyuk since he's just standing in, but man, if Spirit has any aspirations of winning something relevant this season, panto needs to go. The ammount of missplays, misspositionings, spell choking is unreal. Mistake after mistake. Panto is singlehandedly holding Spirit  back.

[ralle14]

PGL Wallachia Season 8 is quite the tournament so far with very entertaining games that keeps on you the edge because this meta is wild with late games , crazy comebacks , insane scale on same heroes and Lone Druid being the ultimate carry of the patch  .

I'm watching Liquid vs Falcons and map 1 went to ...Lone Druid of Liquid of course as nothing seems to be able to beat this bear in late game.

Back then, I thought that Lone Druid was similar to Beastmaster where the hero heavily falls off in the late game, but i'm impressed the bear still kept up. No wonder teams don't hesitate to pick him, including Tiny.

It's starting to feel like Team Liquid might be on that Wallachia buff again. We'll see them face off against BetBoom for the second time, and maybe they've found their rhythm after losing 2-0 in the groups.

[passwordnow]

Spirit needs a massive overhauld of this roster honestly. Not gonna shit on Batyuk since he's just standing in, but man, if Spirit has any aspirations of winning something relevant this season, panto needs to go. The ammount of missplays, misspositionings, spell choking is unreal. Mistake after mistake. Panto is singlehandedly holding Spirit  back.

Collapse is one of the main reasons why Team Spirit plays so good. I'm not sure if ramzes words are real because he's said that collapse was kicked by the team. As for panto, he's the captain and he's the one that calls for the plays since yatoro, larl and collapse don't want to play captain. I'm not sure if they're going to let go of panto since there's not that much players who's willing to take captain with these 2 time TI champs.

[ralle14]

Collapse is one of the main reasons why Team Spirit plays so good. I'm not sure if ramzes words are real because he's said that collapse was kicked by the team. As for panto, he's the captain and he's the one that calls for the plays since yatoro, larl and collapse don't want to play captain. I'm not sure if they're going to let go of panto since there's not that much players who's willing to take captain with these 2 time TI champs.

That's a spicy rumor, but it'd be more believable if it were Collapse wanting to step down because he's too good in his role. If they somehow let him go, the other teams like Yandex or Parivision won't hesitate to bring him in since they're also struggling in the offlane department.

I'm also not a fan of their supporting cast, but they don't have a choice for now unless they're willing to take a risk on inexperienced players in the tier two scene, since most of the notable players are already on a team.

[passwordnow]

Collapse is one of the main reasons why Team Spirit plays so good. I'm not sure if ramzes words are real because he's said that collapse was kicked by the team. As for panto, he's the captain and he's the one that calls for the plays since yatoro, larl and collapse don't want to play captain. I'm not sure if they're going to let go of panto since there's not that much players who's willing to take captain with these 2 time TI champs.

That's a spicy rumor, but it'd be more believable if it were Collapse wanting to step down because he's too good in his role. If they somehow let him go, the other teams like Yandex or Parivision won't hesitate to bring him in since they're also struggling in the offlane department.

I'm also not a fan of their supporting cast, but they don't have a choice for now unless they're willing to take a risk on inexperienced players in the tier two scene, since most of the notable players are already on a team.

That's true, others teams would like to get him for that and I think even BB which is good now, they'd also take him if he's open. Maybe, this is just a good test run with what they have right now and if they're going to aim for the 3rd aegis for this year, they need to have some shuffle of their roster. Otherwise, they'll stick together and just grow within the upcoming months for either the preparation of TI or qualifier.

[ralle14]

That's true, others teams would like to get him for that and I think even BB which is good now, they'd also take him if he's open. Maybe, this is just a good test run with what they have right now and if they're going to aim for the 3rd aegis for this year, they need to have some shuffle of their roster. Otherwise, they'll stick together and just grow within the upcoming months for either the preparation of TI or qualifier.

Anyway, there's no pressure for them to step up for now and we've seen teams like XG improve like crazy throughout TI despite mediocre results.

Also, we're in the final day of PGL Wallachia S8 and earlier Aurora took out Falcons with ease. I was hoping Falcons could put up a fight, but they cooked their draft with that Axe/Batrider combo.

For the final match, I got my money on BB only because they've been slightly consistent.

[Pumared]

In the Brazilian scene, there's been some movement following Fallen's announcement. Former player Gaules, now a streamer, is returning to his old G3X team, where he won the world championship, as coach. Is it likely that Fallen might join G3X as coach? Furthermore, another name has emerged: Taco, a former world champion, who has stated he's ready to play. Will we see G3X, Fallen, and Taco together?

source (in Portuguese): https://draft5.gg/noticia/taco-fala-sobre-ter-seu-nome-ligado-a-furia-e-projeta-retorno-ao-competitivo-mais-proximo-do-que-nunca

[T1HGO]

This season has been very weird. Every team has been inconsistent has hell and the level of Dota has been mediocre at best. I think the teams themselves are not blame but external factors like, constant visa problems on top teams or patches being released mid tournaments. The level of Dota displayed by the top teams this year has been below the average of previous years. Betboom completely crushed this PGL, but i am fully prepared for them to finish below top6 at Dreamleague. It's been the theme of this season.

[passwordnow]

That's true, others teams would like to get him for that and I think even BB which is good now, they'd also take him if he's open. Maybe, this is just a good test run with what they have right now and if they're going to aim for the 3rd aegis for this year, they need to have some shuffle of their roster. Otherwise, they'll stick together and just grow within the upcoming months for either the preparation of TI or qualifier.

Anyway, there's no pressure for them to step up for now and we've seen teams like XG improve like crazy throughout TI despite mediocre results.

Also, we're in the final day of PGL Wallachia S8 and earlier Aurora took out Falcons with ease. I was hoping Falcons could put up a fight, but they cooked their draft with that Axe/Batrider combo.

For the final match, I got my money on BB only because they've been slightly consistent.

BetBoom won, and they made it look like the grand finals is so easy for them. We get new champions for every tournament recently and this is good. My conclusion for this tournament, I'm happy to see Team Falcon went that far on this tournament and ending in 3rd place. Because with the past tournaments, they're almost not making it to the playoffs so, congratulations to all of them and to the bettors went for BB.

[LastKiss]

That's true, others teams would like to get him for that and I think even BB which is good now, they'd also take him if he's open. Maybe, this is just a good test run with what they have right now and if they're going to aim for the 3rd aegis for this year, they need to have some shuffle of their roster. Otherwise, they'll stick together and just grow within the upcoming months for either the preparation of TI or qualifier.

Anyway, there's no pressure for them to step up for now and we've seen teams like XG improve like crazy throughout TI despite mediocre results.

Also, we're in the final day of PGL Wallachia S8 and earlier Aurora took out Falcons with ease. I was hoping Falcons could put up a fight, but they cooked their draft with that Axe/Batrider combo.

For the final match, I got my money on BB only because they've been slightly consistent.

BetBoom won, and they made it look like the grand finals is so easy for them. We get new champions for every tournament recently and this is good. My conclusion for this tournament, I'm happy to see Team Falcon went that far on this tournament and ending in 3rd place. Because with the past tournaments, they're almost not making it to the playoffs so, congratulations to all of them and to the bettors went for BB.

Although Team Falcon started from the lower bracket, they managed to secure third place. From what I saw they’re still not in their prime condition yet, I hope they return to their prime condition on next tour.

Yeah, somehow what Aurora did against Team Falcon didn’t work against BetBoom. It looks like BetBoom already prepared to counter Aurora strategy and BetBoom supports played really well in the grand final. Is there any chance a new patch will come out before DreamLeague S29 starts?

Congrats btw for BetBoom on winning PGL S8

[passwordnow]

BetBoom won, and they made it look like the grand finals is so easy for them. We get new champions for every tournament recently and this is good. My conclusion for this tournament, I'm happy to see Team Falcon went that far on this tournament and ending in 3rd place. Because with the past tournaments, they're almost not making it to the playoffs so, congratulations to all of them and to the bettors went for BB.

Although Team Falcon started from the lower bracket, they managed to secure third place. From what I saw they’re still not in their prime condition yet, I hope they return to their prime condition on next tour.

They're returning to their better form and that's good to see. More tournaments to come and we'll see how they'll be back in that TI form.

Yeah, somehow what Aurora did against Team Falcon didn’t work against BetBoom. It looks like BetBoom already prepared to counter Aurora strategy and BetBoom supports played really well in the grand final. Is there any chance a new patch will come out before DreamLeague S29 starts?

BetBoom studied their strategy and I don't like was that continual pick for nightfall with that void, it's such a bad idea to put that with dominator. It has delayed his farm to scale.

[ralle14]

BetBoom studied their strategy and I don't like was that continual pick for nightfall with that void, it's such a bad idea to put that with dominator. It has delayed his farm to scale.

To me, it wasn't that bad to go for dominator since the hero lacks farming potential and they're expected to go lategame anyway so it's better to rush farming items right away and accelerate the item timings.

They're returning to their better form and that's good to see. More tournaments to come and we'll see how they'll be back in that TI form.

I was hoping they'd be the finalists, but they ran out of ideas once the meta heroes (Lone Druid, Tiny, Huskar, Slardar, Beastmaster) got banned.

Congrats btw for BetBoom on winning PGL S8

Well-deserved win for BB after watching them play consistently well throughout the groups until the finals. This event win should secure their direct invite for the upcoming TI.

[passwordnow]

BetBoom studied their strategy and I don't like was that continual pick for nightfall with that void, it's such a bad idea to put that with dominator. It has delayed his farm to scale.

To me, it wasn't that bad to go for dominator since the hero lacks farming potential and they're expected to go lategame anyway so it's better to rush farming items right away and accelerate the item timings.

He did it I think twice or once but it's not looking good at all and yet he repeated that again. But I agree with what you've said.

I was hoping they'd be the finalists, but they ran out of ideas once the meta heroes (Lone Druid, Tiny, Huskar, Slardar, Beastmaster) got banned.

We might see them in the next major that they'll be better for as long as there won't be roster changes.

Well-deserved win for BB after watching them play consistently well throughout the groups until the finals. This event win should secure their direct invite for the upcoming TI.

I agree that this should secure them a slot for TI but we'll still see with the upcoming tournaments if other teams will excel.

[ralle14]

I agree that this should secure them a slot for TI but we'll still see with the upcoming tournaments if other teams will excel.

The others will surely bounce back when the next tier one event is DreamLeague. It's also the final tournament that'll decide which teams get the last six direct invites for the EWC.

We might see them in the next major that they'll be better for as long as there won't be roster changes.

All of their players are too good to be replaced, so that's not happening anytime soon. It just comes down to whether the patches favor their hero pool again, just like the strength meta back then.

[passwordnow]

I agree that this should secure them a slot for TI but we'll still see with the upcoming tournaments if other teams will excel.

The others will surely bounce back when the next tier one event is DreamLeague. It's also the final tournament that'll decide which teams get the last six direct invites for the EWC.

That's interesting and most teams are preparing for this one since EWC has got a good prize pool. I just hope that it won't be paused or delayed due to the war nearby the region of host country.

We might see them in the next major that they'll be better for as long as there won't be roster changes.

All of their players are too good to be replaced, so that's not happening anytime soon. It just comes down to whether the patches favor their hero pool again, just like the strength meta back then.

I agree, all of them are so good. Ever since they've won the TI, they have no plans of replacing anyone. I am mostly impressed with ammar, majority of his games is that he's dominant.

[rdbase]

In the Brazilian scene, there's been some movement following Fallen's announcement. Former player Gaules, now a streamer, is returning to his old G3X team, where he won the world championship, as coach. Is it likely that Fallen might join G3X as coach? Furthermore, another name has emerged: Taco, a former world champion, who has stated he's ready to play. Will we see G3X, Fallen, and Taco together?

Another big name is being added to the BC.Game roster with Senzu from the Mongolz joining s1mple.
He is temporarily on loan to the squad as they reconstruct their team with moving team members around.

source: https://www.hltv.org/news/44461/bcgame-announce-senzu-loan-signing

I think they are just going to see how he fits in first then decide if he will be a permanent fixture to their squad later on.
But isn't it strange how these players from these tier one teams are moving down to lower ranked squads all the sudden?

[Pumared]

In the Brazilian scene, there's been some movement following Fallen's announcement. Former player Gaules, now a streamer, is returning to his old G3X team, where he won the world championship, as coach. Is it likely that Fallen might join G3X as coach? Furthermore, another name has emerged: Taco, a former world champion, who has stated he's ready to play. Will we see G3X, Fallen, and Taco together?

Another big name is being added to the BC.Game roster with Senzu from the Mongolz joining s1mple.
He is temporarily on loan to the squad as they reconstruct their team with moving team members around.

source: https://www.hltv.org/news/44461/bcgame-announce-senzu-loan-signing

I think they are just going to see how he fits in first then decide if he will be a permanent fixture to their squad later on.
But isn't it strange how these players from these tier one teams are moving down to lower ranked squads all the sudden?

I believe it's more about restructuring the teams, or they're testing rosters and paying lower fees to do so. But the important thing is that the teams are changing and improving with the major in mind. And that's very interesting to see happening. We'll see more changes leading up to the big championship.

[rdbase]

CS2 has a new tournament Blast Rivals continuing on today in their premier season which already had several good matches if you caught them during day one.
Team Vitality who always seem to have trouble with FUT had their match needing to go to the third map and looked as if they were going to overtime. But Apex saved that from happening.
FUT face Astralis in the first match of the second day of this blast series. Vitality go up against G2, Faze clan see FURIA and Navi vs Gamerlegion to close out the competition.

[execijutiere]

G2 didn’t have much trouble against Astralis and managed to defeat their opponent 2-0. We can say that ryu put in a very poor performance. With only 5 kills in 40 rounds, this might be one of ryu’s worst performances ever. We can say that his performance played a major role in G2’s victory.
FaZe, as we know. It seems that Neityu’s addition to the team hasn’t really helped lift the negative atmosphere. After losing 2-0 to NaVi, I think some things need to change at FaZe. In my opinion, Broky is no longer delivering the necessary performance.

[T1HGO]

Sumail playing for MOUZ in upcoming tournament. At this point, is it safe to assume MidOne has been kicked? Personally, not a big fan of Sumail nowadays, but it's definitely an upgrade to MidOne if this is permanent.

Team Nemesis also with a new roster:
1.rubikon155
2.4nalog
3.Jabz
4.Lelis
5.Yamsun
C.Astini

To be honest, this roster is straight up trash.