Gambling or playing?

[paxmao]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

[rhomelmabini]

I guess that would take into consideration by the creator but mostly newer games doesn't offer such kind of gambling in-game options. If ever there such kind of a new game to be released I'd consider it a new skill to be learnt but at least they shouldn't let it be an option for the players to bet some real money. If most of the game isn't about gambling I don't think there will be bad effect that these players may get, though it's understatement because it all depends on individuals and parental guidance.

[fiulpro]

See if the Gambling is connected with games and is available to everyone it should be against the law. Anything that is integrated with gambling should have a set age limit.

I do think that we might have more winning chances. Which means that soon enough people might focus on the games which might help them improve their skills. I do think that these games should only be provided on special platforms.

There might be platforms that might create nuisance if the integration of Gambling is introduced, so we will have limited options.   It would not be as diverse as we might think.

Are these in Game Gambling options easy to procure ? Or is there some procedure like giving your documents etc, to verify the age. ( I have not come across such platforms but great to hear such information. )

[yazher]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Ow! those who are engaged in gambling are kinda addicted to this especially the upgrades platform where you only a fewer chances to upgrade your items quality into its max power and the probability is kinda low and it is possible to compare it to gambling because the odds is somewhat familiar to it. Of course, if you managed to get it successfully many times in a day, you will get addicted and forget to play the whole game. All you gonna do is to ups some items and to sell them for higher prices. You will acquire some traits that have something in common with traditional gamblers.

[GreatArkansas]

We can relate this to some gambling sites that accepting in-game items, just like in Dota 2 or CSGO items, I already tried it before which you can able to use the same items to bet on gambling sites.

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

For me, this will be good if there is transparency like they will use blockchain technology for it, or with using NFT, etc. Players should also consider the fair probability when doing the gambling to measure the fairness.

[iv4n]

GTA has in-game gambling, and some other games too! But it's just for fun as I remember, you can't really win anything (skins, items...)... Counter-Strike on the other hand is different, you can play it and you can earn skins, items... later you can gamble with it on Gambit and in few other casinos! So I am not sure about which type of game you think about... I like to play games and I like to gamble, so I like to play all kinds of games, "ordinary" and "gambling" games.

Underaged or not, if you do something that will have some effects on you! Explicit or implicit, positive or negative... all that depends on many factors! I guess every individual should follow their interest, to try to learn more about what they are doing, and for sure to not allow something to have a negative impact on their life or a state of mind! Younger or older, we are not the same... some kids are more mature than some people at late ages! It's why I don't like age restrictions, and because when I was a kid we were free a lot more than kids now!

[AicecreaME]

It's not an issue I guess if the player is going to be honest about it's age, I mean only players that's age is 18 are the only ones who can access the gambling part of the game, they could ask for KYC verification for that part of the game to make sure that no underage are playing gambling instead of just MMORPG.

Adding gambling on a certain game means that they want to increase their revenue, simple as that, or they don't have the budget for another domain or team creating the gambling games alone.

[carlfebz2]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Nothing new and it isnt surprising that these kind of implementations could really happen and some of them had been doing this for a while already. Undesireable? You arent forced to play on the site

therefore you do have the full will neither you do leave just because you do saw some little mix of gambling of a particular site.You are free to do so and its  up to someones preference

neither you would stay or would leave and its a personal  choice. Expect for these things to be more little bit more rampant in the future.

[electronicash]

well you may be converting them to be a gamber if it interest the gamer. most gamers have budget. if it works then maybe the KYC is needed. kids often play thise video games.

[Mahanton]

We can always have a choice because you can differentiate a gamer and a trader but we cant remove the possibilities that those gamers could really possibly turn out to be gamblers if their
interest would turn to gambling but those are just serving as side dish or an option so its not that an intention but rather as a option for users to take and just like what others been saying
no one is forcing you to play gambling and its someones choice to do so, and i dont see anything wrong because if you do have some money to spend then why not?
As long you are aware with your finances then it should be fine.

[Luzin]

Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Basically, the age of children is the age of play. They have the instinct to find and solve challenges in a game. They are purely in pursuit of victory. This is for normal children. But if they have been taught from a young age to win money from a game of course this is not right. We also have to be wise for this problem there is a certain time that we can use to introduce it.

[Lorence.xD]

Playing is much better than gambling because you only waste your time there unlike in gambling where it's not just time but also your money that's being wasted. Anytime of the day, I would choose playing out of the two. Teaching children to gamble is irresponsible AF, as an adult you have to be smart about it and you have to be a good example for the children because they are the next generation.

[goinmerry]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

I don't found that feature going too far. And may I know what other MMORPG that has in-game gambling? I think only a few.

Regardless, as the game evolves, the players also evolve whether they are from the old and new generations.

Not seeing that as a big deal though for young ones. They will surely just adapt and adjust to that feature. Gambling concerns, I doubt these young generations will be hooked up to the gambling as for sure, the gameplay is more important than to gamble and risk money to get acquired those high tier items.

[stadus]

For me I'm more comfortable in gambling, I mean I let others play and I bet on them, that's my definition. I am not a gamer so I don't play games, but despite gambling only, I still exert a lot of effort and give time to analyze a certain game or fight before I place any bet, so it's still a complicated job if you are looking for success.

[Oasisman]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

These type of in-game betting is very common to every mmorpg. But the Vegas Fallout caravan game is just too obvious that they're mimicking a casino type of gambling experience inside the game.
It actually didn't went too far, they're just adding some extra twist in-game base on their target market. So, the game isn't suitable for underage players.

Most common types of betting in online games is lottery, PvP betting, and Guild wars. When there is betting involved, that's basically a gambling.

[mu_enrico]

Nothing wrong with gambling mini-games as long as the main/parent game has at least 17+ (Mature) rating just like GTA 5. However, the problem is many teens can buy/install the game even though they are not yet in the eligible age bracket. This is a problem for video games industry in a whole, not just about gambling mini-games.

Actually games with simulated gambling etc. would fall into 18+ (Adults Only) bracket, therefore if the ESRB and the company are honest with the rating, I don't think it's a problem from the provider side. It's like when a casino asks you if you are 18+, but you are only 13. It's not the casino's fault IMO.

[dimonstration]

Playing is much better than gambling because you only waste your time there unlike in gambling where it's not just time but also your money that's being wasted. Anytime of the day, I would choose playing out of the two. Teaching children to gamble is irresponsible AF, as an adult you have to be smart about it and you have to be a good example for the children because they are the next generation.

In gambling it's not just our time we waste but also our money. Playing is fine as long as we enjoy it and we know we have time to spare. But as we age we realised it's better to get money that's why other were into gambling even it is risky. It will be better if we will be able to find a job we enjoy the most like what others are doing now in blogging or live streaming.

[Yamifoud]

I never play that I gamble, I usually bet on sports so things are easier for me. I admire other people who bet themselves as they really trust themselves to win, and I think as long as they have the skills, they'll have a good future in gambling. Playing or gambling, the main point here is we are gambling at the end of the day, so always consider the risk when doing it.

[virasog]

well you may be converting them to be a gamber if it interest the gamer. most gamers have budget. if it works then maybe the KYC is needed. kids often play thise video games.

Well, video games for kids should not be converted in gambling games. Gambling games are meant for different audience and video games are for different set of people. We shouldn't mix them. Non gambling games would not require KYC because no money is involved in them.

[ralle14]

Showing the concept of gambling within video games is not that crazy though, at some point they'll get exposed in gambling anyway. There's not much you can do for underaged players because some of these games will ask for your birthdate and usually people will just put fake birthdates to play the game. Unfortunately the situation is kind of similar to crypto casinos but on the other hand buying bitcoin adds another layer of KYC as most exchanges require KYC nowadays.