Gambling or playing?

[Lucasgabd]

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It wouldnt really make that big or doesnt involved millions of dollars if it werent interesting  on the first place.Actually these are totally different markets which its understandable that when it comes to interest
then the amount involved  would neither be extraordinary or wouldn't really be that amazing at all.

As long there's demand and interest then you can really see these numbers that you never expect for a certain game or NFT's to reach on which is somewhat unusual or very rare.

it's crazy when you think about it but Axie is the biggest dapp in the world, first crypto applicaation to surpass 1 million daily active users and in the last 30 days had more than 3x revenue than ethereum as you can check on https://www.tokenterminal.com/ (300 million usd in the past 30 days)
I don't know what they are doing but they are doing it right.

but this is clear playing I'd say, not so many gambling elements on the gameplay

[michellee]

  I more comfortable in playing beside I've enjoyed I ease my bored. Since when I was a child I can not dennied to myself that I'm adding in playing specially now the Moba game which is the Mobile Legends I played also this game I felt challenging and fantastic that I can compete different players .But I also played gambling in my Liesure time it's also ease my bored and I separated my money according for my needs and wants.

When I was a kid, I am playing games for a long time. I do not eat anything because I do not want to miss anything from the games. I feel I am addicted too as you but fortunately, when I grew up, I can stop the addiction because I met many people in my school and made my day busy every day. That happens too in the gambling games because I am not too late to stop gambling as I have been accepted in one office that gives me a chance to make money instead of losing the money on the gambling table.

It is not normal to see a child have an addiction in the games because I can look at what happened to me when I was a kid. I do not want to see my kids playing the games all day long and I do not even want to see them playing gambling because the risk is too big for them.

[carlisle1]

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It wouldnt really make that big or doesnt involved millions of dollars if it werent interesting  on the first place.Actually these are totally different markets which its understandable that when it comes to interest
then the amount involved  would neither be extraordinary or wouldn't really be that amazing at all.

As long there's demand and interest then you can really see these numbers that you never expect for a certain game or NFT's to reach on which is somewhat unusual or very rare.

it's crazy when you think about it but Axie is the biggest dapp in the world, first crypto applicaation to surpass 1 million daily active users and in the last 30 days had more than 3x revenue than ethereum as you can check on https://www.tokenterminal.com/ (300 million usd in the past 30 days)
I don't know what they are doing but they are doing it right.

but this is clear playing I'd say, not so many gambling elements on the gameplay

It was a success journey from this team, seeing how much support they've got from all the players and investors all over the world.

Like what you noticed, whatever they've done they completely do it right, more support from time to time and if you'll see how much worth profits
for holders just holders itself, they are really enjoying this NFT game.

[Kittygalore]

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on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

[Lucasgabd]

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on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

forcing people to do what WE want them to do instead of what THEY want is never a good idea and can result in trauma, I'd never educate a kid like that, the way is stimulating curiosity and exploration of the world.

but yes, not all kids will do things like that since luck also played a role on this situation

[RealMalatesta]

I sort of "like" the risky elements in the games. For example, one of the games I played the most in my life is NBA2K (played over 3k hours total) and they have this my team thing where you open cards and sometimes it is a very good player or sometimes it sucks and you spend money on it. You could get that money by playing or you could just buy it, I play it anyway so I do it with that a lot, but there were times in my life where I made a lot of money, in my nation inflation is 43% so I use every money I have right now on surviving, but back in the day the money I made (nearly same to now) was soooo much more, and I used it for buying coins to open packs.

It was seriously entertaining, sometimes it hurt me because I spent money and got nothing, but in the end it was always nothing, think about it you are spending it on a game, even if you get 10 of best ever cards, it is useless because you can't sell it. So, I really liked it and kept doing it.

[Quidat]

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on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

forcing people to do what WE want them to do instead of what THEY want is never a good idea and can result in trauma, I'd never educate a kid like that, the way is stimulating curiosity and exploration of the world.

but yes, not all kids will do things like that since luck also played a role on this situation

Not all would really be open to everything which means it would neither create some interest/curiosity or would create out some trauma and its true that its never been a good idea.
As we grow old we do able to realize up things along the way and of course with proper guidance and having that good self awareness then you could really possibly able to
avoid those things as you do go ahead.We do have our own self will on which one we would tend to engage on.

[macson]

on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

not all children have the same interests and children who have an interest in coding are rare.  when nft hype, many make quite unique, strange and interesting works imo but only a few are successful.  i live in a multi-cultural area and the children here have different interests, some like playing games, studying ^{(coding, math etc)}, gambling ^{(not gambling like casinos)} and reading books.

[paxmao]

on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

not all children have the same interests and children who have an interest in coding are rare.  when nft hype, many make quite unique, strange and interesting works imo but only a few are successful.  i live in a multi-cultural area and the children here have different interests, some like playing games, studying ^{(coding, math etc)}, gambling ^{(not gambling like casinos)} and reading books.

It is rare that children get interested in code straight away, I have seen some "camps" that take them to learn basic coding, which is simply giving some instructions to an automaton, like the old "logos" programming language and drawing something on a screen or making a robot move. I would argue that coding as such is not coding until you have at least three variables. Anything else is just kids play, which is educational, but just that.

[goaldigger]

on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go

Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

not all children have the same interests and children who have an interest in coding are rare.  when nft hype, many make quite unique, strange and interesting works imo but only a few are successful.  i live in a multi-cultural area and the children here have different interests, some like playing games, studying ^{(coding, math etc)}, gambling ^{(not gambling like casinos)} and reading books.

That’s their unique interest and every child have their own business in mind, some wants only to play and some wants to take more details and used it into something new. Gambling is not for them, they may solve the code but we should not allow them to gamble because for sure, they can’t still handle their emotion. If something like video games in casinos or what, I’d rather play and have fun than to fully gamble, its more fun to play video games.

[South Park]

Those people saying that they are just playing for fun isn't the reality to found. No, they will spend money and time as their main goal is to win if they are lucky and these people could literally get mad once they lose.
These days, we found out that young ages are already exposed to this thing. They might just come and started with a simple game but we sometimes notice that these guys are using this for gambling. This has now become a problem as there is no age restriction and that will be hard to control in the future.

You're right, a lot of people say that they only play for fun, I don't know if they do it to avoid giving information or using it in a diplomatic way, but that's very easy, of course there are people who actually do, but out of every 1000 people 1, and none out of 100, so the odds are low, not only in these gambling games, I have friends who play AXIE and they tell me they play because they like it and not so much for the money, I really don't believe them, there are Always the interest of making money, I think they say it because they think someone is going to ask them for money or something like that. Everyone who enters casinos or games is obviously looking to make money, because I think that nobody likes to lose money, and I think that everyone likes money.

If we are honest with ourselves it is obvious that at the back of our minds there is always the possibility of making some money when we are gambling, after all if that was not true then a person will be happy playing gambling games without using any money as there are many websites that allow you to play for free or play one of the many video games that allow you to simulate casino games without the need to spend a single cent, however I think those that say that are playing for fun what they are really saying is that they do not really care if they win or lose, they will gamble anyway, and if they win then that this just a nice bonus but it is not their main reason to gamble.

[Betwrong]

~ If we are honest with ourselves it is obvious that at the back of our minds there is always the possibility of making some money when we are gambling, after all if that was not true then a person will be happy playing gambling games without using any money as there are many websites that allow you to play for free or play one of the many video games that allow you to simulate casino games without the need to spend a single cent, however I think those that say that are playing for fun what they are really saying is that they do not really care if they win or lose, they will gamble anyway, and if they win then that this just a nice bonus but it is not their main reason to gamble.

Nicely put. Indeed, if there is no real money involved, it's not much of a fun, so if we want to have fun we have to bet some real money, maybe a very small amount, just a fraction of a cent, but still real money so that in a case of incredible luck, we could win something tangible, like $20-$30.

Back to the topic, is it gambling, when we play, say, a roulette inside of a game, where no real money involved? I think it's not. Just as killing inside a game isn't real killing.

[Lucasgabd]

~ If we are honest with ourselves it is obvious that at the back of our minds there is always the possibility of making some money when we are gambling, after all if that was not true then a person will be happy playing gambling games without using any money as there are many websites that allow you to play for free or play one of the many video games that allow you to simulate casino games without the need to spend a single cent, however I think those that say that are playing for fun what they are really saying is that they do not really care if they win or lose, they will gamble anyway, and if they win then that this just a nice bonus but it is not their main reason to gamble.

Nicely put. Indeed, if there is no real money involved, it's not much of a fun, so if we want to have fun we have to bet some real money, maybe a very small amount, just a fraction of a cent, but still real money so that in a case of incredible luck, we could win something tangible, like $20-$30.

Back to the topic, is it gambling, when we play, say, a roulette inside of a game, where no real money involved? I think it's not. Just as killing inside a game isn't real killing.

totally agree that gambling with real money is not the same as without it, but there are games cool to be played even without money, poker is a good example, some people play it in an autotelic way, just for the sake of playing, learning and improving, not necessarily in a "gambling way"

[alpamar99]

Good parents are the ones who keep a limit on everything their children do,in a tablet and in the app store they can install the games for their kids and then completely disable access to that app.Also good parents are the one who limit which websites their children can access and make sure the most notoriously known gambling websites are blocked,they also have setup their children laptop to not use VPN-s and give the kids only a normal user account and not an Administrator account.Although this does not guarantee 100% protection it is a great step toward that.

but often the case that now happens is the opposite
maybe not all but there are cases especially in my country when parents are not smarter than their children, especially in using electronic devices such as gadgets etc.
this is a problem that often arises they even ask their children to be taught how to use their gadgets and they don't even understand what the system is in the gadget, how to use the features and maybe they don't even understand what children play. so it is very difficult to limit the rights.

[Quidat]

Good parents are the ones who keep a limit on everything their children do,in a tablet and in the app store they can install the games for their kids and then completely disable access to that app.Also good parents are the one who limit which websites their children can access and make sure the most notoriously known gambling websites are blocked,they also have setup their children laptop to not use VPN-s and give the kids only a normal user account and not an Administrator account.Although this does not guarantee 100% protection it is a great step toward that.

but often the case that now happens is the opposite
maybe not all but there are cases especially in my country when parents are not smarter than their children, especially in using electronic devices such as gadgets etc.
this is a problem that often arises they even ask their children to be taught how to use their gadgets and they don't even understand what the system is in the gadget, how to use the features and maybe they don't even understand what children play. so it is very difficult to limit the rights.

Actually true because parents could really be possibly outdated when it comes to technology and accessibility on things because no matter how you do get rid of your child to connect through online as long it does have its own mobile phone then tendency or chances would really be there.Due to this hi-tech era then its impossible that children couldnt really make any access if they do really tend to play something or things that do interest them then its really hard for them to be stopped if you do intent to prohibit and they would really be finding ways as much as they can.

[boyptc]

totally agree that gambling with real money is not the same as without it, but there are games cool to be played even without money, poker is a good example, some people play it in an autotelic way, just for the sake of playing, learning and improving, not necessarily in a "gambling way"

That's surely for having fun.

But what makes it more fun if there's a bet for each of those people sitting on the table. Well, games that have in-game casinos and such as poker tables.

They're more enjoyable especially if you're playing with strangers and a few known people of yours on the other side.

[Betwrong]

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Nicely put. Indeed, if there is no real money involved, it's not much of a fun, so if we want to have fun we have to bet some real money, maybe a very small amount, just a fraction of a cent, but still real money so that in a case of incredible luck, we could win something tangible, like $20-$30.

Back to the topic, is it gambling, when we play, say, a roulette inside of a game, where no real money involved? I think it's not. Just as killing inside a game isn't real killing.

totally agree that gambling with real money is not the same as without it, but there are games cool to be played even without money, poker is a good example, some people play it in an autotelic way, just for the sake of playing, learning and improving, not necessarily in a "gambling way"

Haha! Tell me about it! I've spent many hundreds of hours playing such games, or tournaments with $1 prize pool.  Indeed, I was playing those games for the sake of learning and improving, and also for the fun of it. What's interesting(back to the topic) is that it never occurred to me to start playing with real money at the time. I was playing only free to enter tournaments and was happy with that. So, I think there are good chances that underage players exposed to a roulette game inside of another game won't even think of gambling with real money.

[poldanmig]

totally agree that gambling with real money is not the same as without it, but there are games cool to be played even without money, poker is a good example, some people play it in an autotelic way, just for the sake of playing, learning and improving, not necessarily in a "gambling way"

That's surely for having fun.

But what makes it more fun if there's a bet for each of those people sitting on the table. Well, games that have in-game casinos and such as poker tables.

They're more enjoyable especially if you're playing with strangers and a few known people of yours on the other side.

I think games on a computer or smartphone, such as poker that uses coins or the like (not real currency) are quite fun games and even I personally do it and I consider the game only as a place to practice in understanding the character of the game, even though the game is has a different atmosphere from when we play directly on the table, but I think this game can give us some good experiences and tricks, to face our opponents when playing real on the table.

[ipanks]

Good parents are the ones who keep a limit on everything their children do,in a tablet and in the app store they can install the games for their kids and then completely disable access to that app.Also good parents are the one who limit which websites their children can access and make sure the most notoriously known gambling websites are blocked,they also have setup their children laptop to not use VPN-s and give the kids only a normal user account and not an Administrator account.Although this does not guarantee 100% protection it is a great step toward that.

but often the case that now happens is the opposite
maybe not all but there are cases especially in my country when parents are not smarter than their children, especially in using electronic devices such as gadgets etc.
this is a problem that often arises they even ask their children to be taught how to use their gadgets and they don't even understand what the system is in the gadget, how to use the features and maybe they don't even understand what children play. so it is very difficult to limit the rights.

Maybe those parents need to learn how to use the gadget to know what their kids are doing when they are not doing their homework. I think that will be worth it as they can guide their children and maybe learn together but the parents still get control of their children's.

It seems the parents just let their kids by themselves without guiding them to find the good lesson for what they want. If the parents are aware that they can not always be beside their kids, they will figure out what the parents must do for their kids and ensure that their kids do not use their gadgets for the wrong thing.

[jrrsparkles]

Find the audience for your game then make them to be addicted and then make money out of it that is their strategy and its one of its kind, people who are obsessed with that game will go for it no matter what and certainly it is expensive and high risk than compared with a casino where we have lot of choices.