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One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". It sounded like he was attributing some short of conscience and life to the machine and though he could "beat it". I have observed that many people that gamble are into that type of thinking, that is, it is me against this code and this machine and I can actually break the code and win.
I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
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it's not really "to break the code" or anything really. it's just a self-thought to motivate/cheer himself up. a lot of people do this and not just in gambling. for instance, I remember saying that kind of thing a lot that I would "I will beat the shit out of this punching bag" when I was in my high school Taekwondo club. saying that keeps my morale high and motivates me to keep going. I think your neighbor is just doing the same thing.
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I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
If you do play, you will understand. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There's no breaking a code or something unusual here. These people know that it's hard to beat a casino game but the adrenaline is always there so it builds thinking on their brain that they can challenge the casino. I'm sure those guys already experience winning a good amount. That's one of the reasons why gamblers continue to play because they actually feel the experience of winning a good amount and they want to feel the same experience again and again.
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July 26, 2021, 02:40:17 PM |
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I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
Nah, I know some of my friends who spent $2,000 in a single night doing slot machines and almost all of them failed or experienced breakeven. If there exists an absolute code in which you could cheat or take advantage of the slot machine, then this news would definitely erupt and most gamblers would become millionaires by now. Those people who murmur or chant some words before they gamble can also be compared to rituals- it does not do anything to the machine but it gives a morale boost to the gambler. If a person is under extreme pressure, he/she would do anything just to calm himself while betting. Those rituals may help calm their nerves but it does absolutely nothing to the machine as these are all governed by odds and luck.
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July 26, 2021, 03:08:58 PM |
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I find that funny but it's probably out of frustration or "revenge" that some gamblers say that. It's not that different with other games whether it's a "code" or an AI they are facing. I remember cussing out on a simple video game when I couldn't beat the boss so I can only imagine what gamblers spit out when they lose.
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July 26, 2021, 03:27:16 PM |
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I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
Maybe if he really could, I wouldn't deny it. However, the condition of the slot machine is programmed with various neatly arranged axes. for the intellectuals who control, will be very supportive to solve. Once again, if he said just to fulfill the satisfaction that he had not yet conquered, then at any time cracking the slot code was a complicated thing that would take a long time.
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July 26, 2021, 03:34:27 PM |
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There are computer programmers who bought used slot machines. Reverse engineered the hardware and software. And used the data collected to cheat with slot machines in vegas. Maybe back in the 1980s, before casinos knew gaming slot machines was possible.
It might be a little late for "breaking the code" today. Casinos are aware of it being possible and security is on the watch for cheats. Some machines are coded so that a big winner can only occur on a certain date of the year, at a certain time, if the lever is pulled on a specific second. That's the type of accuracy it takes win big on slots. The odds and probability of a big win are so astronomically slim. That time and energy would usually be better spent elsewhere imo.
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July 26, 2021, 03:34:47 PM |
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~ One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". Since it is a million years ago you never know whether he was really talking to the machine ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . May be he is to obsessed to win somehow as he already spent a lot of money in it and waiting to win the jackpot finally. I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
I do play slots once in a while and i am not playing to win big or break the code, i play it for fun and once you spend time for sometime you get bored and then i move on.
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I don't understand by "breaking the code", but it seems that he is giving life to that slot machine. And obviously, it is an inanimate object, so there's no such thing as breaking it. The "code", the way as I understand it is the program, either machine (processor) or software (programming language).
And I don't think that someone can break it because as we all know, it's random, whether you hit the jackpot or always got the "near miss".
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July 26, 2021, 03:36:49 PM |
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In my perspective it's not about breaking the code but about the satisfaction of winning and the reward we receive afterwards. Gamblers are motivated because the joy of winning drives themselves to carry out different strategies to somehow win the gamble. Not only in gambling but at any point in life where there's a competition, we tend to try out various strategies to somehow win that particular event. I believe this is why all gamblers tend to gamble frequently so that they can keep winning the games.
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It sounds like your neighbor has great confidence in winning a lot of money from that machine. Actually I don't think that's the way to break the code, but sometime trusting it can bring huge profit with very little effort.
Yes, I love playing slots. But so far I have no way to play it on the machine because my country doesn't allow it. Maybe after covid is gone and I have the opportunity, then I will be happy to visit Malaysia to try playing on the slots machine while filling my vacation time.
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July 26, 2021, 03:54:42 PM |
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One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". It sounded like he was attributing some short of conscience and life to the machine and though he could "beat it". I have observed that many people that gamble are into that type of thinking, that is, it is me against this code and this machine and I can actually break the code and win.
I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
People develop all kind of superstitions and they attribute human like qualities to the things they cannot explain or understand, it is obvious that a slot machine works by making use of probabilities and does not care who is playing, but for the person using the slot machine this is personal especially if they have lost a significant amount of money in that machine, so they are trying to teach a lesson to that specific machine as a desire for revenge consumes them, it does not make sense to us but it does to them.
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It's obviously the gambler against the code. Because he has gotten so engrossed that he tries hard to break the code and this would likeiy consume most of his time since he is consistently calculating how to defeat the machine. it's very common to all gamblers because it's the same approach gamblers use in predicting their games
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July 26, 2021, 10:45:29 PM |
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One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". It sounded like he was attributing some short of conscience and life to the machine and though he could "beat it". I have observed that many people that gamble are into that type of thinking, that is, it is me against this code and this machine and I can actually break the code and win.
I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
I'm pretty sure you're neighbor only said it for fun. Ngl when I read what he said, it made me have a good laugh, and honestly, it isn't all that weird when it comes to people who gamble or something similar of the sorts in types of games. Even in normal mmo's, or rpg games themselves, people that have this sort of wall blocking them from proceeding, especially at insane levels, often times have those moments like your neighbor where they want to break the code, all because of how immensely difficult the game is. In case of slots though, it's more like how unlucky they are instead. It's kind of like roleplaying ngl, and it's pretty fun if I do say so myself.
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July 26, 2021, 10:58:46 PM |
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One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". It sounded like he was attributing some short of conscience and life to the machine and though he could "beat it". I have observed that many people that gamble are into that type of thinking, that is, it is me against this code and this machine and I can actually break the code and win.
I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
Breaking the code is indirectly talking about on beating up the game and simply make big wins and for sure he is really talking about that particular thing.We would really be having that kind of mindset on where we do really believe that there's something like a escape route for you to win up or some exploit or bug in code literally and might able to win the game. Beating up the game or house is something we had been doing once we do step in ourselves neither on a physical or online one.
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Its never too late, there is always going to be ways and people trying in all ways possible legal or not but the easiest methods are probably not there any more. Apparently it used to be as easy as a lightpen on the end of a flexible stick and similar ideas because the machine would count via beams of light interrupted by the coin flow. There is probably some cross over in mechanical terms to all convenience machines and there is absolutely always some people trying to do this because think of all the avenues open to you to steal basically once you craft the key you have the gates to the entire empire open i.e. mass produced machines. There is a long documentary probably a few on this subject, a whole arms race between the cheats, their technology innovative methodology VS the casinos themselves trying to prevent the cheats from operating and cover the machines short comings over the years. War games for gamblers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) similar to stories I used to read on phone phreakers and the earliest of hackers, this stuff never goes away really its a real crossword challenge to some. I used to know someone who gambled a ton and he swore it was not the people playing who broke the code in this way but the bar staff. The bar man would watch those gambling, noting how much they spend and their winnings and when quiet would go to collect the accumulated cash now in the machine that had not paid out. Because he is there all day he gets an idea of the payout ratio and likely chance of receiving 'good luck' bonuses and such like. Reminds me of the plane spotter I worked with in the airport that just being there was a bonus for him. This strategy is probably legal but quite sad for all those who arrive to a machine run dry of any easy winnings.
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We play gambling for entertainment,it doesnt matter if you playing dice,slots roulette or something like that but it do share up on the same aim which is to enjoy and win money in bonus but there are really people who do really try to beat the house or the game and wont stop until it do happen.They dont mind on how much they would spent out and they would stick on what they do have in mind no matter what.
Behavior of a certain person whom would easily get addicted sooner or later if he would continue that kind of mindset.
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July 26, 2021, 11:50:05 PM |
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One of my neighbours, a million years ago, was obviously addict to the slot machines. He would spend hours spinning in a nearby bar (these machines are allowed in bars in my country of origin) and my take is that he would spend a fortune on it. Once, I passed by and I overheard him saying "I am going to teach this machine who is in charge". It sounded like he was attributing some short of conscience and life to the machine and though he could "beat it". I have observed that many people that gamble are into that type of thinking, that is, it is me against this code and this machine and I can actually break the code and win.
I personally do not play slots, but do you think that is why people like slot machines? Short of breaking their code?
Yes I agree with you but I think it's not impossible to break the code on some of them. At least on online slots some players seem to have been able to do it. It can be done when the game is not really random and fair and is designed to make people spend and lose their money on the game, then you can take advantage of these patterns when you notice them. But if the game is truly random there isn't any way to trick it.
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I do think that this is just probably an expression of your friend, to so could break the code, which we all know that it is impossible. Most of the times gamblers are really known to be like this, very emotional and will do things out of the norm.
It's the same as those players that I have observed in a land based casino, who touches the screen and telling things like "give me the bonus" or something. It's all fallacy.
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You are one sharp observer.
Anyway, I agree, but not only slot machines. This type of mentality applies to a lot of gamblers. Even myself, I have to admit, I also have this kind of air in me sometimes which tells me to beat the edge, take their money, bring the house down, show them you can win, and so on.
I guess this is commonly shared among gamblers. This strong feeling to try beat the unbeatable makes gambling even more interesting. It is generally given that in gambling you are expected to lose. But it seems to me gamblers are not discouraged. As a matter of fact, it even makes winning more triumphant.
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