Is COVID-19 cure possible?

[datura12]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

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[Gyfts]

Vaccines are doing fine, because even if you get infected, you have low chance of severe infection. Breakthrough cases don't mean much if you are only mildly symptomatic. But anyways, all the big pharma companies are pouring a lot of money into R&D for treatments if you already have Covid, good shot they'll come up with something.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg57258203#msg57258203

[datura12]

That is true, but treatment during the infection will be big win for them. And not everyone one want to get vaccinated, there are countries in Europe with very low % vaccines and IMO never going to reach herd immunity.

[jrrsparkles]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

It will take ages like few decades to find a complete cure but before that your immune system itself will do all the required things along with the help of medication like oxygen supply and intensive care in rare cases apart from this covid is completely okay for someone to undergo because it may last for a week or two after that you will become normal.

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HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

[datura12]

HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

LOL hello Mr. Trump, believe me these are far from cures for the virus. I am talking about something that inhibits multiplication of the virus or the entry of the virus in the cell, something like the other antiviral drugs.

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HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

LOL hello Mr. Trump, believe me these are far from cures for the virus. I am talking about something that inhibits multiplication of the virus or the entry of the virus in the cell, something like the other antiviral drugs.

in early treatment it always works, unless the patient is already dying... however on late stage, as said, if already dying... there is nothing you can do.

if trump told you the sky was blue, what would you say?

vit c, d, zinc lots of water, sleep and rest, just a cold... dandelion tea... I mean, nothing fancy. It's not ebola or monkey pox or a black plague ( can I say that, or it's no appropriate?).

ps, when trump got it, he had access to a medical staff, that never you nor even any billionaire will... hehehe. those aren't buffoons...

ps2, don't worry, soon your job will be gone, they will get their final authorisation, no more emergency authorisation, and so treatment discussion will come to your news bubble... . 

[OgNasty]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

If by they you mean us, and by medicine you mean antibodies, then yes. It’s almost like mankind has likely survived the flu for a little while now. Watching government attempt to remove natural immunity from their citizens as a further method of control has been one of the more terrifying events I’ve ever witnessed.

[Cnut237]

Vaccines are doing fine

Yep. They're doing a great job. In the UK we are currently in a third wave of cases from the delta variant, but thanks to the vaccines hospitalisations and deaths are very low.

not everyone one want to get vaccinated, there are countries in Europe with very low % vaccines and IMO never going to reach herd immunity.

Anti-vaxxers are an obstacle to herd immunity, yes, but I do think some of them will change their minds as there are geographical clusters of high vaccine hesitancy (e.g. Alabama in the US), which will quickly become apparent in the data... if people see that highly-vaccinated parts of the country have lower case numbers and better outcomes, it should cause a degree of behavioural change. If anti-vaxxers form a small enough minority, then effective herd immunity within a nation is perfectly feasible. The other issue is the low availability of the vaccine in poorer nations... the higher the amount of virus circulating anywhere in the world, the higher the number of mutations, and dangerous or vaccine-resistant mutations. So it's likely that we will need annual boosters to compensate for concerning variants. As for 'beating' Covid, that's only going to happen when cases numbers across the whole world start to drop to very low levels.

[arielbit]

HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

LOL hello Mr. Trump, believe me these are far from cures for the virus. I am talking about something that inhibits multiplication of the virus or the entry of the virus in the cell, something like the other antiviral drugs.

in early treatment it always works, unless the patient is already dying... however on late stage, as said, if already dying... there is nothing you can do.

if trump told you the sky was blue, what would you say?

vit c, d, zinc lots of water, sleep and rest, just a cold... dandelion tea... I mean, nothing fancy. It's not ebola or monkey pox or a black plague ( can I say that, or it's no appropriate?).

ps, when trump got it, he had access to a medical staff, that never you nor even any billionaire will... hehehe. those aren't buffoons...

quercetin...a zinc ionophore (ensures zinc gets inside the cell), like HCQ and ivermectin but these two might require people to get prescription due to covid treatment regulation. quercetin however is still OTC from health food stores  

you might want to add your herbs like these, to clear your lungs. chinese goverment approve

https://covid-19.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202104/15/WS6077953aa31024ad0bab5a2e.html

before people bash this chinese medicine, look at the ingredients, they are adapted by western herbalist too

here are the ingredients (taken from 'english' box):


western herbalist links: (look at the ingredients)

https://www.rcherbals.com/rc/product/14ES

https://www.planetaryherbals.com/products/GP1563/

or something like this.. just make sure you are getting the "wild Mediterranean oregano" high carvacrol content.

https://www.northamericanherbandspice.com/shop/super-strength-oreganol-p73-gelcaps/

these herbs will ensure you are breathing, they are antibacterial and antiviral..will help keep the bad bacteria at bay during cytokine storm. take it as early as possible during signs of symptoms.

herbs are like readily available form of zinc, imagine zinc as lead being manufactured by the body as bullets but these herbs are bullets already ready to be fired.

in summary, you are enhancing/optimizing/arming your immune system. your immune system is the cure

[Marvelman]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

Currently, there are some medications doctors can use to treat the effects of COVID-19, but developing a drug that targets the virus directly is a complex and expensive process.
The U.S. FDA has approved just one antiviral drug for COVID-19, called remdesivir. However, researchers are studying other potential treatments, such as antiviral drugs, anti-inflammatory therapy, and immunotherapy.

Though it is not known whether any of these will prove effective against COVID-19, I believe a cure is possible.

[datura12]

Results
Seven randomized clinical trials (RCTs) and 14 cohort studies were included (20 979 patients). Thirteen studies (1 RCT and 12 cohort studies) with 15 938 hospitalized patients examined the effect of HCQ on short-term mortality. The pooled adjusted OR was 1.05 (95% CI 0.96–1.15, I2 = 0%). Six cohort studies examined the effect of the HCQ+azithromycin combination with a pooled adjusted OR of 1.32 (95% CI 1.00–1.75, I2 = 68.1%). Two cohort studies and four RCTs found no effect of HCQ on viral clearance. One small RCT demonstrated improved viral clearance with CQ and HCQ. Three cohort studies found that HCQ had no significant effect on mechanical ventilation/ICU admission. Two RCTs found no effect for HCQ on hospitalization risk in outpatients with COVID-19.

Conclusions
Moderate certainty evidence suggests that HCQ, with or without azithromycin, lacks efficacy in reducing short-term mortality in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 or risk of hospitalization in outpatients with COVID-19.


Zakariya Kashour, Muhammad Riaz, Musa A Garbati, Oweida AlDosary, Haytham Tlayjeh, Dana Gerberi, M Hassan Murad, M Rizwan Sohail, Tarek Kashour, Imad M Tleyjeh, Efficacy of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients: a systematic review and meta-analysis, Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy, Volume 76, Issue 1, January 2021, Pages 30–42, https://doi.org/10.1093/jac/dkaa403

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Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

If by they you mean us, and by medicine you mean antibodies, then yes. It’s almost like mankind has likely survived the flu for a little while now. Watching government attempt to remove natural immunity from their citizens as a further method of control has been one of the more terrifying events I’ve ever witnessed.

If you are white, your ancestors survived and thrive around all that killed the native americans (small pox, flues, and the list goes on), earlier the black plagues...

I don't believe western gov still have the iq to even understand what you just wrote. They know how to smile, how to lie, or even wash their bribes, but for the rest? they are fucking morons unable to even think.

I personally hope it's the case. they trusted the "gov" now they will pay the prices. I will joyfully party once all the vaxxed by mrna die or are on a constant train (and money making for me, if the legal framework allows for profitering from the demise of the too stupid to think) of vaxx updated ! 4th, 5th, one per month, one per week until the holly grail of any pharma company : ONE A DAY ! (then 2, 3... etc).

heheheh. call me cruel, I don't care.

Yep. They're doing a great job. In the UK we are currently in a third wave of cases from the delta variant, but thanks to the vaccines hospitalisations and deaths are very low.

lol you are so ill educated that you don't know that once a bioweapon is released or new virus emerges it will naturally decay, aka get more contagious, while at the same time, spare as much as possible the host? aka more "cases" (by fraudulent pcr test at above 35 cycles) while less death (furthermore most of the weak have been eliminated by the first wave and the lack of proper treatment? did your medical system gave hcq, ivermectin or vit c, d, or zinc to your old ones? no? It killed them.

not everyone one want to get vaccinated, there are countries in Europe with very low % vaccines and IMO never going to reach herd immunity.

Anti-vaxxers are an obstacle to herd immunity, yes, but I do think some of them will change their minds as there are geographical clusters of high vaccine hesitancy (e.g. Alabama in the US), which will quickly become apparent in the data... if people see that highly-vaccinated parts of the country have lower case numbers and better outcomes, it should cause a degree of behavioural change. If anti-vaxxers form a small enough minority, then effective herd immunity within a nation is perfectly feasible. The other issue is the low availability of the vaccine in poorer nations... the higher the amount of virus circulating anywhere in the world, the higher the number of mutations, and dangerous or vaccine-resistant mutations. So it's likely that we will need annual boosters to compensate for concerning variants. As for 'beating' Covid, that's only going to happen when cases numbers across the whole world start to drop to very low levels.

the problem in your narrative is israel. what happen to israel if pfizer vaxx is an epic medical failure (like it happen to many big pharma endeavor? I let you guess...
don't count "cases" but death. death are HARD data, then ask yourself, it's died from covid or with covid... big difference, specially as the test are fraudulent.

HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

LOL hello Mr. Trump, believe me these are far from cures for the virus. I am talking about something that inhibits multiplication of the virus or the entry of the virus in the cell, something like the other antiviral drugs.

in early treatment it always works, unless the patient is already dying... however on late stage, as said, if already dying... there is nothing you can do.

if trump told you the sky was blue, what would you say?

vit c, d, zinc lots of water, sleep and rest, just a cold... dandelion tea... I mean, nothing fancy. It's not ebola or monkey pox or a black plague ( can I say that, or it's no appropriate?).

ps, when trump got it, he had access to a medical staff, that never you nor even any billionaire will... hehehe. those aren't buffoons...

quercetin...a zinc ionophore (ensures zinc gets inside the cell), like HCQ and ivermectin but these two might require people to get prescription due to covid treatment regulation. quercetin however is still OTC from health food stores  

you might want to add your herbs like these, to clear your lungs. chinese goverment approve

https://covid-19.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202104/15/WS6077953aa31024ad0bab5a2e.html

before people bash this chinese medicine, look at the ingredients, they are adapted by western herbalist too

here are the ingredients (taken from 'english' box):


western herbalist links: (look at the ingredients)

https://www.rcherbals.com/rc/product/14ES

https://www.planetaryherbals.com/products/GP1563/

or something like this.. just make sure you are getting the "wild Mediterranean oregano" high carvacrol content.

https://www.northamericanherbandspice.com/shop/super-strength-oreganol-p73-gelcaps/

these herbs will ensure you are breathing, they are antibacterial and antiviral..will help keep the bad bacteria at bay during cytokine storm. take it as early as possible during signs of symptoms.

herbs are like readily available form of zinc, imagine zinc as lead being manufactured by the body as bullets but these herbs are bullets already ready to be fired.

in summary, you are enhancing/optimizing/arming your immune system. your immune system is the cure

you know how many hcq or ivermetin have been given worldwide and more importantly for how long? it's safe... as safe as a drug can be.

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

Currently, there are some medications doctors can use to treat the effects of COVID-19, but developing a drug that targets the virus directly is a complex and expensive process.
The U.S. FDA has approved just one antiviral drug for COVID-19, called remdesivir. However, researchers are studying other potential treatments, such as antiviral drugs, anti-inflammatory therapy, and immunotherapy.

Though it is not known whether any of these will prove effective against COVID-19, I believe a cure is possible.

the problem of investing in big pharma is that most efficient working molecules are old and derived from nature... what the cells encountered in their evolution... it's a big problem for my ROI...

HCQ or Ivermectin ! For god's sake, plz educated yourself.

LOL hello Mr. Trump, believe me these are far from cures for the virus. I am talking about something that inhibits multiplication of the virus or the entry of the virus in the cell, something like the other antiviral drugs.

in early treatment it always works, unless the patient is already dying... however on late stage, as said, if already dying... there is nothing you can do.

if trump told you the sky was blue, what would you say?

vit c, d, zinc lots of water, sleep and rest, just a cold... dandelion tea... I mean, nothing fancy. It's not ebola or monkey pox or a black plague ( can I say that, or it's no appropriate?).

ps, when trump got it, he had access to a medical staff, that never you nor even any billionaire will... hehehe. those aren't buffoons...

quercetin...a zinc ionophore (ensures zinc gets inside the cell), like HCQ and ivermectin but these two might require people to get prescription due to covid treatment regulation. quercetin however is still OTC from health food stores  

you might want to add your herbs like these, to clear your lungs. chinese goverment approve

https://covid-19.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202104/15/WS6077953aa31024ad0bab5a2e.html

before people bash this chinese medicine, look at the ingredients, they are adapted by western herbalist too

here are the ingredients (taken from 'english' box):


western herbalist links: (look at the ingredients)

https://www.rcherbals.com/rc/product/14ES

https://www.planetaryherbals.com/products/GP1563/

or something like this.. just make sure you are getting the "wild Mediterranean oregano" high carvacrol content.

https://www.northamericanherbandspice.com/shop/super-strength-oreganol-p73-gelcaps/

these herbs will ensure you are breathing, they are antibacterial and antiviral..will help keep the bad bacteria at bay during cytokine storm. take it as early as possible during signs of symptoms.

herbs are like readily available form of zinc, imagine zinc as lead being manufactured by the body as bullets but these herbs are bullets already ready to be fired.

in summary, you are enhancing/optimizing/arming your immune system. your immune system is the cure

headshot, my gov, preferred to see old people die... so sad (and most are too dumb to understand it ).

love to see oregano in the list, didn't know it was used in TCM , it's really a "breather"... didn't know the physics behind it.

I find funny the weight, I guess, some TCM units? Maybe you know the origin of this metrics?

[BADecker]

You can't stop a disease that isn't there any more than the flu. The only reason why Sweden had any deaths at all was that some of the people panicked individually, and voluntarily obeyed the lockdown death sentence of the rest of the world.


Zero COVID Deaths: Sweden's Anti-lockdown Strategy Has Worked

The bad one is that even though the reason it's peaceful is because its anti-lockdown strategy has worked, the COVID-panic-porn-obsessed media don't find this newsworthy. After all, if the masses find out that all the civilization-rending lockdowns and onerous virus restrictions are an exercise in scientific obscurantism, a lot of power-mad politicians could face career destruction.

Here's the news the opinion cartel finds un-newsworthy: As of Wednesday, Sweden's seven-day rolling average for China virus deaths was zero (tweet below).

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Jon Miltimore
@miltimore79
While many nations are gearing up for more lockdowns, daily deaths in Sweden are still at 0.

This isn't what they said would happen.



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To be precise, Sweden has on occasion curbed restaurant opening hours (I guess the virus only attacks during certain periods of the day) and has at times enforced crowd limits at venues such as shopping malls, but these have been exceptions to the country's rule of relying on voluntary measures to combat SARS-CoV-2.

[arielbit]

oregano is not TCM as far as i know...maybe it is from Mediterranean since that is the oregano type/name.

you can find a lot of info online. but i have a personal experience in using that years ago(haven't fully optimized my health), a nuisance/slight pain in the middle chest, where a phlegm/wet cough tingles it, a of sore throat, and fever. two caps melted in my mouth 2-3 times a day(I can feel the comforting heat right in the middle of my chest and throat as this oil flows down from throat to the esophagus.). 1st day almost cured, 2nd day completely recovered.

someone i know..tongue fungal infection, next day gone...sore throat (exposed to someone with covid), next day gone.

regarding those TCM, i just look for the ingredients in the western herbalist stores...the one is called "clear lungs" means it will keep you breathing.

formulated by Zhang Zhongjing, one of China's most celebrated physicians in the Han Dynasty (206 BC-AD 220) and Yinqiao Powder, formulated by Wu Jutong in the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911)

if you really think about it, people back then will just call it a flu, or a strong flu, or a weak flu, or contagious flu (no laboratories to look/name /label at the differences)...maybe they are already battling pandemic since ancient times. also notice 1644?, around the time when europe have recorded diseases like influenza (like spanish-mayan war)

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thyme infusion (with oregano, mint, lavender, basil, honey, lemon juice, some cardamon and tumeric).

https://www.alive.com/health/take-thyme-for-respiratory-health/

You can't stop a disease that isn't there any more than the flu. The only reason why Sweden had any deaths at all was that some of the people panicked individually, and voluntarily obeyed the lockdown death sentence of the rest of the world.


Zero COVID Deaths: Sweden's Anti-lockdown Strategy Has Worked

The bad one is that even though the reason it's peaceful is because its anti-lockdown strategy has worked, the COVID-panic-porn-obsessed media don't find this newsworthy. After all, if the masses find out that all the civilization-rending lockdowns and onerous virus restrictions are an exercise in scientific obscurantism, a lot of power-mad politicians could face career destruction.

Here's the news the opinion cartel finds un-newsworthy: As of Wednesday, Sweden's seven-day rolling average for China virus deaths was zero (tweet below).

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Jon Miltimore
@miltimore79
While many nations are gearing up for more lockdowns, daily deaths in Sweden are still at 0.

This isn't what they said would happen.



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To be precise, Sweden has on occasion curbed restaurant opening hours (I guess the virus only attacks during certain periods of the day) and has at times enforced crowd limits at venues such as shopping malls, but these have been exceptions to the country's rule of relying on voluntary measures to combat SARS-CoV-2.

Nice job to bring back Sweden on the table... I guess the covaxx terrorists will have to eliminate the gov of sweden and it's king + inject some new bioweapon to finish them, no counter narrative. #theskysin'tblueeveniftrumpsaidso

[Jet Cash]

There won't be a cure, but there could be prevention. The problem is the lazy lard arses and the vaxxers who won't admit the problem is insulin resistance and lffe style. It's easier to stick a needle in your arm, and carry on stuffing your face and watching TV. Meanwhile the healthy unvaccinated have to suffer until they realise they are killing themselves,

[Mauser]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

Yes I think we will get a corona medicine eventually. At the moment most pharma companies focus on vaccines because they are more profitable. A vaccine is going to be taken by everybody,billions of people. While the medicine is only to be taken by the severe ill patients, which is a much smaller number.

[tabas]

That is true, but treatment during the infection will be big win for them. And not everyone one want to get vaccinated, there are countries in Europe with very low % vaccines and IMO never going to reach herd immunity.

It is just a matter of time, there's still shortage with the vaccine supplies worldwide and that's why some countries are not yet into herd immunity.
Currently, we have to bear with the situation and like what was said, the vaccines are doing well and it has lessened the fatality that those places that has their majority citizens to be vaccinated.

[Tash]

Do you think they will be able to create some type of medicine which is going to be effective against the virus any time soon, because we all see that the vaccines maybe won't be the key to beating the virus?

Did you live under a rock in recent times, there is lots of cures available see sig for starters