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March 26, 2022, 11:08:31 AM
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It has been explained why Mesut Özil who was excluded from the squad last week was left out. Accordingly Özil threw his shoes on the floor in the dressing room and cursed İsmail Kartal. Dealing with the ego of a star football player is really difficult. If what has been done is correct it is extremely correct that Fenerbahce Club excluded Özil from the squad. The club has no time to deal with anyone's ego. Discrimination cannot be made.

Fenerbahçe has a young and talented player like Arda Güler. It's a good move that they gave up on Mesut Özil. Crespo also performs well. Ozan Tufan is also unnecessary now. They are planning for the coming years by getting rid of high paid players. Mesut Özil earns 3.9 million EUR per year. Ozan Tufan earns 1 million EUR per year.

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It has been explained why Mesut Özil who was excluded from the squad last week was left out. Accordingly Özil threw his shoes on the floor in the dressing room and cursed İsmail Kartal. Dealing with the ego of a star football player is really difficult. If what has been done is correct it is extremely correct that Fenerbahce Club excluded Özil from the squad. The club has no time to deal with anyone's ego. Discrimination cannot be made.

Everyone was very happy when Mesut Özil was transferred to Fenerbahçe, but I don't think he gave the expected performance throughout the season Smiley
If he really did such a disrespectful act, it is very normal for him to be out of the squad. The peace in the team needs to be protected somehow, such players can harm the team

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March 26, 2022, 05:39:51 PM
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It has been explained why Mesut Özil who was excluded from the squad last week was left out. Accordingly Özil threw his shoes on the floor in the dressing room and cursed İsmail Kartal. Dealing with the ego of a star football player is really difficult. If what has been done is correct it is extremely correct that Fenerbahce Club excluded Özil from the squad. The club has no time to deal with anyone's ego. Discrimination cannot be made.

A player is no bigger than a club.  Of course, if a player has a problem and is detrimental to the club, then the club's decision to remove that player from the squad is the right action.  Fenerbahce itself did not reveal why they kicked Mesut Ozil from the first team.  Likewise with Ozan Tufan.  There was some news circulating stating that Ozil was physically incompetent. In addition, Ozil himself was reportedly arguing with his coach, Vitor Pereira some time ago.  What is clear is whatever the reason, Fenerbahce has issued their official statement.  And now Mesut Ozil's childhood dream with Fenerbahce is falling apart.

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Everyone was very happy when Mesut Özil was transferred to Fenerbahçe, but I don't think he gave the expected performance throughout the season Smiley
If he really did such a disrespectful act, it is very normal for him to be out of the squad. The peace in the team needs to be protected somehow, such players can harm the team

Özil was already finished before he left Arsenal. Fenerbahçe made a gamble signing him and it didn't go as expected. He's not physically enough for Turkish league. Next stop might be Arabian league for Özil, he can play two more seasons there before he retires. It looks like he finished playing football in his mind, he only cares about his brand. I don't know why would any team sign him other than commercial target.

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March 26, 2022, 07:17:14 PM
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Everyone was very happy when Mesut Özil was transferred to Fenerbahçe, but I don't think he gave the expected performance throughout the season Smiley
If he really did such a disrespectful act, it is very normal for him to be out of the squad. The peace in the team needs to be protected somehow, such players can harm the team

Özil was already finished before he left Arsenal. Fenerbahçe made a gamble signing him and it didn't go as expected. He's not physically enough for Turkish league. Next stop might be Arabian league for Özil, he can play two more seasons there before he retires. It looks like he finished playing football in his mind, he only cares about his brand. I don't know why would any team sign him other than commercial target.
indeed this is not going as well as expected although indeed his performance is still in a reasonable stage but indeed in the professional league this is very lacking in terms of performance.
But indeed he is quite old indeed and this will certainly have an impact on performance because it can be said that age is an eternal enemy for athletes, especially footballers and there is no real reason for Fenerbache to maintain

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March 26, 2022, 08:18:35 PM
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Everyone was very happy when Mesut Özil was transferred to Fenerbahçe, but I don't think he gave the expected performance throughout the season Smiley
If he really did such a disrespectful act, it is very normal for him to be out of the squad. The peace in the team needs to be protected somehow, such players can harm the team
Özil was already finished before he left Arsenal. Fenerbahçe made a gamble signing him and it didn't go as expected. He's not physically enough for Turkish league. Next stop might be Arabian league for Özil, he can play two more seasons there before he retires. It looks like he finished playing football in his mind, he only cares about his brand. I don't know why would any team sign him other than commercial target.

Ozil should retire now. I  had watched his performance in several matches at Fenerbahce. His performance was not satisfactory. He is out of form or has lost interest in football. Ozil is now 33 years old. He could have served the team better for a few more years. But he could not adapt to the team at Fenerbahce. He should now look for a new league or should be retired.

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Ozil should retire now. I  had watched his performance in several matches at Fenerbahce. His performance was not satisfactory. He is out of form or has lost interest in football. Ozil is now 33 years old. He could have served the team better for a few more years. But he could not adapt to the team at Fenerbahce. He should now look for a new league or should be retired.

I see Al-Nassr Riad has interest for him, he has some connections from Arabian countries as well. I won't be surprised if he goes Qatar or Saudi Arabia league this Summer. I think his days in Fenerbahçe are already over. I don't think Fenerbahçe management will forgive him whatever the problem is, and we will see him sign to another club right at the end of the season.

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Everyone was very happy when Mesut Özil was transferred to Fenerbahçe, but I don't think he gave the expected performance throughout the season Smiley
If he really did such a disrespectful act, it is very normal for him to be out of the squad. The peace in the team needs to be protected somehow, such players can harm the team
Özil was already finished before he left Arsenal. Fenerbahçe made a gamble signing him and it didn't go as expected. He's not physically enough for Turkish league. Next stop might be Arabian league for Özil, he can play two more seasons there before he retires. It looks like he finished playing football in his mind, he only cares about his brand. I don't know why would any team sign him other than commercial target.

Ozil should retire now. I  had watched his performance in several matches at Fenerbahce. His performance was not satisfactory. He is out of form or has lost interest in football. Ozil is now 33 years old. He could have served the team better for a few more years. But he could not adapt to the team at Fenerbahce. He should now look for a new league or should be retired.

I actually don't agree. in my opinion, Mesut Ozil Is still a great player and he can still offer a lot to the team. I don't think he is washed and even though the performance has not been as expected from him, I think he will do better in the future. I am still hopeful about this player.

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March 27, 2022, 06:43:11 PM
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I actually don't agree. in my opinion, Mesut Ozil Is still a great player and he can still offer a lot to the team. I don't think he is washed and even though the performance has not been as expected from him, I think he will do better in the future. I am still hopeful about this player.

Mesut has achieved good statistics this year. He has 8 goals and 2 assists in the league. But the annual fee he receives is very high. This fee is too high for Fenerbahçe, who cannot participate in the European cups. There are also qualified substitutes who can play in place of Mesut. Players like Miha Zajc and Arda Güler can fill his void. Mesut's biggest misfortune is that he did not play with good forward players in Fenerbahçe. If he could play with good forwards, he could have provided more assists. In my opinion, he can give better performances in good teams.

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We know that normally Anatolian teams fall towards the end of the league. There is such a fact historically. Konyaspor also has this problem. Of course, the death of their players has affected the team, but I don't think this is the only and the most important reason.
As for the second place issue, there are 8 matches that have not been played yet, which means 24 points to be collected. It's hard to predict right now, all teams in the top 8 have a chance to place 2nd at the end of the season.
It was indeed expected that Konyaspor would eventually fell behind at the end. It is very very hard for Anatolian teams to be ahead like that throughout the season. It is about the budget, mentality, the will to win. Anatolian teams almost always lack these at the second half of the season. We only saw a couple of times that an Anatolian team was disciplined until the end.

The next 24 points for the teams will be quite unpredicted. But, honestly, I don't expect such achievement for Besiktas. Their remaining games are quite difficult and with the new coach will be hard to dominate. They will play Trabzonspor, Alanyaspor and Fenerbahce. Seems very hard.

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March 27, 2022, 09:07:20 PM
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The next 24 points for the teams will be quite unpredicted. But, honestly, I don't expect such achievement for Besiktas. Their remaining games are quite difficult and with the new coach will be hard to dominate. They will play Trabzonspor, Alanyaspor and Fenerbahce. Seems very hard.

At this point there is no expectation so it may be more comfortable for the team. It's a lost season without any achievement except the Super Cup and that would be more than enough for a season like this. A derby win would always be great no matter how aimless your team is, fans always want to win games like this. Even though there is enough time to rebuild for the next season I prefer to hold expectations in minimum as we are clueless about how new manager will do things here.

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Fenerbahce officially declared that Mesut Ozil and Ozan Tufan is out of the roster right now. They took that small break and left the nation and just had fun, which was seen as unprofessional I guess. Whatever the reason was, it is a good deal because they were never really good and they never provided 100% they had to the game.
I get that they both could be looking like a good star level player for a club like Fener, but if you are a star that sits down and not works, versus some 16 year old kid comes out and suddenly outworks you, that kid deserves to be playing more than you do. I believe this will result with Fener becoming second, because everyone who stays will be afraid and will work harder.
Mesut Özil pretty much performed so bad that Fenerbahçe lost their patience for him. He is telling now that he was angry for his performance himself but BILD claims he sweared to İsmail Kartal in German so that's why he is out of squad. Özil now says there is no possibility with transfer to Qatar and he will wait but I don't buy it, I think he will definitely leave Turkiye for some random Arabic club in my opinion.
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Fenerbahce officially declared that Mesut Ozil and Ozan Tufan is out of the roster right now. They took that small break and left the nation and just had fun, which was seen as unprofessional I guess. Whatever the reason was, it is a good deal because they were never really good and they never provided 100% they had to the game.
I get that they both could be looking like a good star level player for a club like Fener, but if you are a star that sits down and not works, versus some 16 year old kid comes out and suddenly outworks you, that kid deserves to be playing more than you do. I believe this will result with Fener becoming second, because everyone who stays will be afraid and will work harder.
Mesut Özil pretty much performed so bad that Fenerbahçe lost their patience for him. He is telling now that he was angry for his performance himself but BILD claims he sweared to İsmail Kartal in German so that's why he is out of squad. Özil now says there is no possibility with transfer to Qatar and he will wait but I don't buy it, I think he will definitely leave Turkiye for some random Arabic club in my opinion.
When Özil transferred to Fenerbahce after years of talks and negotiations, first thing that comes to a lot of people's mind was that he was coming here to rest and vacation. It would be a big surprise if he had performed like a prime Özil. He was obviously lost interest in the top quality football performance and also because of his marriage, because his Turkish wife wanted to live in Turkey as the news stated, he was never focused and now his Fenerbahce career seems like to be doomed.

I don't want to point this out so much but this is a classic Ali Koc, the Fenerbahce president, move. Every move of his in presidency was bad and somehow even cursed. He should've seriously given up the presidency by now.

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Fenerbahce officially declared that Mesut Ozil and Ozan Tufan is out of the roster right now. They took that small break and left the nation and just had fun, which was seen as unprofessional I guess. Whatever the reason was, it is a good deal because they were never really good and they never provided 100% they had to the game.
I get that they both could be looking like a good star level player for a club like Fener, but if you are a star that sits down and not works, versus some 16 year old kid comes out and suddenly outworks you, that kid deserves to be playing more than you do. I believe this will result with Fener becoming second, because everyone who stays will be afraid and will work harder.
Mesut Özil pretty much performed so bad that Fenerbahçe lost their patience for him. He is telling now that he was angry for his performance himself but BILD claims he sweared to İsmail Kartal in German so that's why he is out of squad. Özil now says there is no possibility with transfer to Qatar and he will wait but I don't buy it, I think he will definitely leave Turkiye for some random Arabic club in my opinion.
When Özil transferred to Fenerbahce after years of talks and negotiations, first thing that comes to a lot of people's mind was that he was coming here to rest and vacation. It would be a big surprise if he had performed like a prime Özil. He was obviously lost interest in the top quality football performance and also because of his marriage, because his Turkish wife wanted to live in Turkey as the news stated, he was never focused and now his Fenerbahce career seems like to be doomed.

I don't want to point this out so much but this is a classic Ali Koc, the Fenerbahce president, move. Every move of his in presidency was bad and somehow even cursed. He should've seriously given up the presidency by now.
I completely agree. People were so obsessed with Mesut Özil when I told Fenerbahçe fans he will definitely not perform good. His Instagram and twitter posts were literally reason behind my idea. He delved into weird politics, showed himself like Islamic Nationalist figure or something. It was obviously fake and he wanted attention. Now fans realized it. Ali Koç on the other hand is very shortsighted president. He just doesn't understand football. I think he should only do finance of Fener.
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Galatasaray management was not acquited. They will do re-election. This time, Burak Elmas cannot be a presidential candidate. Who do you think would be better for them to come?
The names of former presidents such as Dursun Özbek and Ünal Aysal are mentioned.
Galatasaray had a very bad season this year, perhaps the worst season in history in the league. But they came out of groups in Europe. Maybe they would have progressed further if they had not matched with Barcelona.
I think Ünal Aysal is the most professional of all presidential candidates. His arrival can level up the club.

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Galatasaray management was not acquited. They will do re-election. This time, Burak Elmas cannot be a presidential candidate. Who do you think would be better for them to come?
The names of former presidents such as Dursun Özbek and Ünal Aysal are mentioned.
Galatasaray had a very bad season this year, perhaps the worst season in history in the league. But they came out of groups in Europe. Maybe they would have progressed further if they had not matched with Barcelona.
I think Ünal Aysal is the most professional of all presidential candidates. His arrival can level up the club.
Only good things Galatasaray did positively this year are have a draw with Barcelona and this kicking Burak Elmas out of presidency of the club. I don't personally have good feelings about Galatasaray club but they were maybe the worst big three of all time this year. Obviously the president was at fault and the Galatasaray club members did a very good thing removing him from the presidency. Chairman of a club like that should be utmost qualified.

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Galatasaray performance last season was impressive. They played 40 matches, won 26, drew 6 and lost 8. Although, they didn't succeed in winning the League title, but ended at the 2nd place. Is quite surprising seeing them unable to secure a space in the top 10 on the League standings this season. Their performance this season is completely terrible. They are presently at the 15th position, and might even get into the relegation zone if care is not taken. Torrent should work on his squad and also improve the club performance.



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I can't wait to see the matches on this week. And the matches that I wonder the most now are Kayserispor - Fenerbahce and Konyaspor - Goztepe. Because there is a really strong rivalry between Fenerbahce and Konyaspor to have the second position at the end of the season. The team to finish the season there are going to qualify for the Champions League qualification round in the end. My opinion for these matches is like they both wouldn't make a mistake and would win their matches this week.

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Galatasaray performance last season was impressive. They played 40 matches, won 26, drew 6 and lost 8. Although, they didn't succeed in winning the League title, but ended at the 2nd place. Is quite surprising seeing them unable to secure a space in the top 10 on the League standings this season. Their performance this season is completely terrible. They are presently at the 15th position, and might even get into the relegation zone if care is not taken. Torrent should work on his squad and also improve the club performance.

I really don't understand what went wrong with Galatasaray. They seem to be playing really bad this season and I am not going to be surprised if they are actually relegated this season.
I think their target is going to be to avoid relegation at any cost and concentrate on the next season to do well.

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I agree with you. Galatasaray should try another formation to be able to rise from adversity. For example; Galatasaray should try on the 3-4-3 formation. Also, the coach must rely on youth footballer and he should try in the field them.

The main problem of the team right now is believing. No player is on the field to win, there is no player who seems to play willingly.
So the formation change may not work as well. The team still doesn't get along well with the coach, and the coach doesn't seem to know enough about the team and the league.

There are very talented young football players, but they cannot show themselves on the field. I don't think this situation will change next year

I agree with you. When the torrent first come, he said: "The players don't believe in themselves and their teammates. They have to believe that they are good players." The coach have to learn enough about the team and the league because He came to Istanbul two and a half months ago. Two and a half months is not a short time.
You are definitely right. He should now have enough experiences with these players already if he is good manager. But main problem is inconstency with manager as well. I mean who can be very sure if Torrent is gonna stay with team next year? Board of bigger Turkish clubs can easily change their minds and dump their managers couple of times in 3-4 months. I feel like he may be replaced too.

I agrre with you. Board is so unpatient. Board dont give time enough their coach in Turkey. I have a feeling board will expel Torrent. But Board of Galatasaray will change. There will be a new selection very soon in Galatasaray. Fans and members of Galatasaray want a new president and board. I feel like Burak Elmas and his friends may be replaced.

I said that I feel like Burak Elmas and his friends may be replaced. And Galatasaray will choose an election for the presidency. Metin Öztürk was the first presidential candidate. Metin Öztürk lost in the last election. Eşref Hamamcıoğlu, who lost in the last election, is also thought to  will be a candidate.

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