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October 02, 2021, 10:04:29 AM
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But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

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October 02, 2021, 10:10:47 AM
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But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

ML? nah, unless you really put a huge amount of money just to be able to get some decent win.

But a KO or maybe a UD might be attractive. Yes, smart money will go on Canelo's favor but for regular gamblers, we need to bet on where we will get a good win and ML is not.

There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.
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October 02, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
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But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

ML? nah, unless you really put a huge amount of money just to be able to get some decent win.

But a KO or maybe a UD might be attractive. Yes, smart money will go on Canelo's favor but for regular gamblers, we need to bet on where we will get a good win and ML is not.

There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

Yes, that's what I said to him. Not making sense to put money on Canelo Moneyline. The current betting odds (outside crypto) was Canelo Alvarez @ -900 and Caleb Plant @ +500. For others to give you a clear view, you need to bet $900 for Canelo to win $100 in return.

If you have that guts to risk some money thinking it's an easy win for Canelo, then up to you to decide. But for me, obviously I will skip on that.

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October 02, 2021, 11:15:14 AM
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There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

Stake.com odds on that match:

Caleb Plant - 5.6
Canelo Alvarez - 1.08

I agree that it will remain like that until the date of the match. No profit return for betting on Canelo. My limit on accepting small odds is only at 1.3. Betting at 1.08 is too risky even Canelo has a great chance to win in that match.
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October 02, 2021, 11:25:08 AM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

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October 02, 2021, 12:26:47 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy
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October 02, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

For 1.08, I find it too risky as well, but for those who really are risk-takers and see the 8% as a gift, I think they would put big money and take that easy money. For big bookies, I think they can handle big bets, so let's say someone bet $1 million for Canelo to win, and he would win, so that's $8,000 easily money there.

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October 02, 2021, 01:31:26 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
His recent fight definitely caused him some injuries so it could be a factor that Plant might win given that fight after another fight isn't really your best for someone as some injuries might last longer and can affect that fighter.

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October 02, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
His recent fight definitely caused him some injuries so it could be a factor that Plant might win given that fight after another fight isn't really your best for someone as some injuries might last longer and can affect that fighter.
Who was injured? Plant or Canelo? I'm a little confused here as I don't see both that are injured in their previous fights. Maybe you mean the cut that Plant got when the two meet because he throw some insults about Canelo's mother? Please be more specific.

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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight Cheesy

About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.

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October 02, 2021, 08:00:07 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight Cheesy

About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.

Good point, your limited budget would take you nowhere if you will bet on the 1.08 odds, maybe wait until more betting odds will be displayed and look for a better odds on this fight, you don't need to just select on who will win, you can could on how Canelo will win.

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October 02, 2021, 08:12:55 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
I am waiting for the rounds bets and i could not find the sites i usually bet having those odds for round bets, may be i should wait till the day before the fight to see those odds, i would probably place a bet on that aspect rather than going for the money line as the odds are too small and i will be surprised if the fight goes to the distance as i am expecting Canelo Alvarez to finish the fight within 9 rounds.
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October 02, 2021, 09:07:01 PM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
I am waiting for the rounds bets and i could not find the sites i usually bet having those odds for round bets, may be i should wait till the day before the fight to see those odds, i would probably place a bet on that aspect rather than going for the money line as the odds are too small and i will be surprised if the fight goes to the distance as i am expecting Canelo Alvarez to finish the fight within 9 rounds.
It's not available for now, it's still too early, yes, just wait probably a day before the actual fight more odds will be displayed. By the way, what betting sites are you using, do they have the odds already on this particular fight? Can you to us so we could also check by ourselves?
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October 03, 2021, 03:35:30 AM
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I am waiting for the rounds bets and i could not find the sites i usually bet having those odds for round bets, may be i should wait till the day before the fight to see those odds, i would probably place a bet on that aspect rather than going for the money line as the odds are too small and i will be surprised if the fight goes to the distance as i am expecting Canelo Alvarez to finish the fight within 9 rounds.

Yeah.. I checked a few of the sites and couldn't find the odds for round wise win. Anyway, odds for Caleb looks slightly better, when compared to what Caleb Truax had earlier this year. Back then, Canelo was placed at -4,000. This time he is at -800 to -900.

BTW, I found a few odds here, but this site is not a sportsbook (it is more like a boxing analysis and prediction site):
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-vs-plant-prediction-prop-bets/

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Fight goes to decision:   +166
Fight doesn’t go to decision:   -235
Plant wins by TKO/KO:   +1200
Caneo wins by TKO/KO:   -175
Plant wins by decison:   +1000
Canelo wins by decision:   +230
Plant wins in round 1-4:   +3100
Canelo wins in round 1-4:   +600
Plant wins in round 5-8:   +3100
Canelo wins in round 5-8:   +230
Plant wins in round 9-12:   +3100
Canelo wins in round 9-12:   +330

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October 03, 2021, 04:07:36 AM
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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight Cheesy

About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.

You have justified your statement, and yeah with a limited budget wouldn't give you much for a Canell win.
However the real risk is betting in favour of Caleb, which the chances for him to win against one of the top pound for pound boxer is slim to none.
I'm not underestimating Caleb, but Canelo is just a smarter and tougher fighter between this 2, thus that gives us a small odds which barely makes any except betting a huge amount.
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October 03, 2021, 05:23:17 AM
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You have justified your statement, and yeah with a limited budget wouldn't give you much for a Canell win.
Good enough if you fully believe that it will be an easy fight for Alvarez and you are not a fan of taking high risk bets.

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However the real risk is betting in favour of Caleb, which the chances for him to win against one of the top pound for pound boxer is slim to none.

Plant is the underdog and there's no doubt about that as even he's also a title holder but the experienced of Alvarez is far better than him, Those heavy fights that Canelo accomplished bring him to this top spot.

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I'm not underestimating Caleb, but Canelo is just a smarter and tougher fighter between this 2, thus that gives us a small odds which barely makes any except betting a huge amount.
Skils and and mental advantages are both with Alvarez, no doubts that's how bookies see this event.

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October 03, 2021, 09:00:18 AM
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Skils and and mental advantages are both with Alvarez, no doubts that's how bookies see this event.

Obviously, as it reflected on the odds easily, Caleb could be undefeated but taking on Alverez is a nightmare, either he will get KO here or he will suffer from serious injury, just like what happened to the opponent of Canelo in his last fight.

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October 03, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
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Skils and and mental advantages are both with Alvarez, no doubts that's how bookies see this event.

Obviously, as it reflected on the odds easily, Caleb could be undefeated but taking on Alverez is a nightmare, either he will get KO here or he will suffer from serious injury, just like what happened to the opponent of Canelo in his last fight.

No one would think now that Canelo would lose, if we just look at the previous fights of Canelo, we will be convinced that he is unbeatable. Anyways, for those who would insist, I would like to know what are the reasons why you think Caleb Plant could pull an upset here? willing to listen.

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October 03, 2021, 11:59:06 AM
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There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

Stake.com odds on that match:

Caleb Plant - 5.6
Canelo Alvarez - 1.08

I agree that it will remain like that until the date of the match. No profit return for betting on Canelo. My limit on accepting small odds is only at 1.3. Betting at 1.08 is too risky even Canelo has a great chance to win in that match.

Thanks for this. Yes, there is no 'sense' in betting a odds like 1.0x.

Skils and and mental advantages are both with Alvarez, no doubts that's how bookies see this event.

Obviously, as it reflected on the odds easily, Caleb could be undefeated but taking on Alverez is a nightmare, either he will get KO here or he will suffer from serious injury, just like what happened to the opponent of Canelo in his last fight.

Most likely this could happen to Caleb, he will either folded up because of the body shot, or might got hurt in the eye socket when Canelo time his uppercut or left hook. Both are in superb shape, but I have been following Canelo's training and it seems he is unbeatable at his stage. His body and his mind is in perfect condition.
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October 03, 2021, 12:41:09 PM
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Thanks for this. Yes, there is no 'sense' in betting a odds like 1.0x.

Normally I avoid bets if the odds are below 1.15. Because upsets can happen in any sport at any time and I have lost money in such occasions previously. For his fight against Avni Yıldırım, Canelo had odds of 1.02 in most of the sportsbooks (some others had him at 1.025, and a few at 1.03). For me, it doesn't make any sense to take such a risk. You are risking 50 times the amount which you are going to win under the best scenario. If you are reporting your gambling gains in the IT return, then it would mean more paperwork as well.
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