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October 11, 2021, 07:54:33 AM
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But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...
But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.



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October 11, 2021, 11:33:08 AM
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But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...
But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.
It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

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October 11, 2021, 10:33:54 PM
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But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...
But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.
There are some very famous trash talkers that were the best, one example of this is Ali, everyone knew that he was the best but he wasted no opportunity to remind everyone this was the case, however it also depends on how this is done, people of this day even love the trash talking of Ali, but if the trash taking is all about insulting their opponent and the fans like more the opponent than the trash talker then the fan base will turn against him, which is what it is happening to Caleb.



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October 12, 2021, 03:16:32 AM
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It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

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October 12, 2021, 05:01:27 AM
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It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Who knows, with many promoters and advertisers, Canelo, being a pound per pound champ, still has that chance. Mayweather though established his name and retire with a complete undefeated stat, this guy was so smart his trash talks accompanied by his skills, he called the fans attentions even those who are against him are forced to buy tickets just to see him lose the fight.

That kind of appearance is now hard to find, converting your haters to a ticket sales, Roll Eyes Grin look at him in each exhibition matches, he still magnetized money from fans and haters, people still buying the fight to extend that he's fighting a clown inside the boxing ring. Tongue

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October 12, 2021, 09:36:04 AM
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It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

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October 12, 2021, 12:37:13 PM
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It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

According to this article, https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-boxers-world/

Floyd is the richest boxer in the world with a $560 Million net worth and I guess it's not included what he earned after professional boxing as he has been making money still on exhibition fights.
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October 12, 2021, 01:14:04 PM
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It depends on the skills of the fighter as we have some champions who are good at trash-talking, good example is Floyd Mayweather Jr., he is a very smart fighter, it doesn't matter to him if people call him boring as long as he makes tons of money in boxing and was able to retain his undefeated record.

Floyd was really unique. Floyd Mayweather to boxing is what Tiger Woods is to golf, or Cristiano Ronaldo to football. I really doubt whether any other fighter would be able to achieve as much success as Mayweather did. He earned hundreds of millions of USD from his boxing career and others like Canelo are far behind him. Even Mike Tyson at his prime couldn't earn as much as Mayweather. Will Canelo ever be able to match him? I really doubt that. Canelo doesn't have the same fan following as Mayweather.

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

According to this article, https://wealthygorilla.com/richest-boxers-world/

Floyd is the richest boxer in the world with a $560 Million net worth and I guess it's not included what he earned after professional boxing as he has been making money still on exhibition fights.

I think the article is not accurate, how come Canelo is not included when this article says that his net worth is $140 million already.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/sal-lvarez-net-worth/

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Saul Alvarez Net Worth and Career Earnings: Saul Alvarez, AKA "Canelo", is a professional Mexican boxer in the Light Middleweight division who has a net worth of $140 million. Alvarez is a four-division world champion who has been described as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport, as of 2020. Saul Alvarez has proven a formidable opponent for virtually every fighter he's ever faced.

And take note, he is still active and he can still grow this net worth as he continues to have more fights.
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

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October 12, 2021, 07:46:26 PM
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

If the growing demands triggered Canelos career but considering what the world is suffering right now, every fights that being settled are questionable to convert a huge amount of profits, some may gain and some might have breakeven, others though got canceled due to other concerns including the potential more loss because of lacking interest from the fans,.

Mayweather's timing was superb, his peak also accompanied by growing technologies, social media hypes gives him best privilege to earn more money from both sponsors and the organization who settled the fights.

Though we are not sure to what future will bring to Canelo's career, if he can also use the same channel as Mayweather he might surpass what Mayweather has now in terms of profits.

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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

If the growing demands triggered Canelos career but considering what the world is suffering right now, every fights that being settled are questionable to convert a huge amount of profits, some may gain and some might have breakeven, others though got canceled due to other concerns including the potential more loss because of lacking interest from the fans,.

Mayweather's timing was superb, his peak also accompanied by growing technologies, social media hypes gives him best privilege to earn more money from both sponsors and the organization who settled the fights.

Though we are not sure to what future will bring to Canelo's career, if he can also use the same channel as Mayweather he might surpass what Mayweather has now in terms of profits.

If Canelo will give a GGG another fight, I think that would give him another big paycheck in his career and will add up to what he has already made now. Canelo is still young and very dominant, he should fight anyone especially if it will result in bigger money as that's the main purpose of boxers why they are in the ring.
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

If the growing demands triggered Canelos career but considering what the world is suffering right now, every fights that being settled are questionable to convert a huge amount of profits, some may gain and some might have breakeven, others though got canceled due to other concerns including the potential more loss because of lacking interest from the fans,.

Mayweather's timing was superb, his peak also accompanied by growing technologies, social media hypes gives him best privilege to earn more money from both sponsors and the organization who settled the fights.

Though we are not sure to what future will bring to Canelo's career, if he can also use the same channel as Mayweather he might surpass what Mayweather has now in terms of profits.

If Canelo will give a GGG another fight, I think that would give him another big paycheck in his career and will add up to what he has already made now. Canelo is still young and very dominant, he should fight anyone especially if it will result in bigger money as that's the main purpose of boxers why they are in the ring.

If he is like when Pacquiao was in his prime, accepting anyone who will challenge him, Canelo has still a long journey in this boxing industry. Not only choosing what he wants but fighting who is really the best in his division. Now, I am interested on how he will perform on this upcoming fight with Caleb. As he is the heavy favorite by bookies, can he live up to this expectation? I hope upset is not an option here.
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October 12, 2021, 10:39:00 PM
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.
We will have to wait and see, Canelo is without a doubt one of the most popular fighters that we have right now however one of the things with Floyd is that he was able to make money not only from his fans but also from the haters, as the haters also paid good money to see his fights as they wanted to see him lose, so unless Canelo becomes incredibly popular to the point everyone loves him it is going to be difficult for him to reach the same level of monetary success.
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

That is who will be Canelo's willing dance partner?

Floyd has Manny to generate the biggest PPV ever
Then Floyd vs Oscar Dela Hoya

Then when he started to crossover or make exhibitions match, Floyd vs Conor.

But since Canelo has clean up the 160-168 lbs there are no fighters that can give him that huge amount of money Floyd does in his career.

GGG? Nah, I don't think, this is the third fight and supposedly they should have fought like 2 years ago.

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October 12, 2021, 11:42:21 PM
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^^ As far as I can remember, Canelo sign a $300 million contract with DAZN. Not sure though what happen to that contract when he bolted out with Golden Boy. And it was the biggest contract so far to day.

And I think with endorsement and fights, Canelo could easily earn a lot of money as well. He is still at his prime and getting the recognition all over the world.

https://50mm.sportspromedia.com/athletes/

He was at the #4 spot, even higher than Ronaldo and Messi.

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October 13, 2021, 03:36:09 AM
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Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

Canelo is just 31 years old. So if he keeps on fighting for as long as Floyd did, then he definitely has a chance to overtake him in terms of net earnings. I wouldn't read too much in to the $300 million deal from DAZN. These deals are subjected to various terms and conditions (and takes in to account fight cancellations). In the end the realized amount may be considerably smaller. But do you think that he will remain in peak form for another decade? And all it takes is just one upset defeat, and his career will sink.

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October 13, 2021, 04:18:33 AM
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But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...
But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.

Nitrogensports has an improved odds offering of 1.10 hehehe.

Canelo will certainly be very much faster than Caleb Plant. Watch when he took off Plant’s sunglasses first before slapping him on the ear in milliseconds after the press conference hehe. Can this be possible to end under 9.5 rounds?

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October 13, 2021, 04:22:40 AM
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Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.
I think the same,. Myweather only cares about his reputation, he only remembers the day he lost to Pacquiao when he asked him that he didn't want another rematch which to me indicates that the guy didn't want to risk it, when they compare him to Canelo I think Canelo would. never tell his rival that he does not want revenge, the reason is simple, Canelo is not afraid, he only cares about fighting and winning, I think he is one of those few boxers who really enjoy what they do and not only for the money, but for the sport.

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October 13, 2021, 04:33:50 AM
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But don't underestimate Caleb, as he very well know that he is the underdog here.
And he is trash talking, so he should show what he's got under his sleeves.
Otherwise, if he will not put a good fight, people will not believe on him anymore.
Upsets can happen, but this one seems not to be included in this category. Let us see...
But usually a trash talker is lose due to his full confidence Grin Plant's career wouldn't end if he lose with Alvarez in this fight, most people know Plant's will lose but he still got respected by all his supporters. He's not only created to fight with Alvarez isn't? He can fight with another good boxer and gain more reputation.

The odds is only 1.09 for Alvarez it's not attractive for me to bet, as it's not worth to take the risk.

Nitrogensports has an improved odds offering of 1.10 hehehe.

Canelo will certainly be very much faster than Caleb Plant. Watch when he took off Plant’s sunglasses first before slapping him on the ear in milliseconds after the press conference hehe. Can this be possible to end under 9.5 rounds?

https://youtu.be/UfgY4-59ZxQ

What's the odds for under 9.5 rounds though? (sorry I haven't check it).

In any case there is a big possibility that the fight would last the full 12 rounds. Canelo's last 3 fight if I'm not mistaken was 10 and under. Except for Kovalev, but this is in the LHW division and Canelo move up in that weight to get the belt and score a knock out.

But with his comfortable weight of 168 lbs, he just blasted anyone in his path and most likely going to unify the super middle belt win a big wing against Caleb Plant.

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October 14, 2021, 06:45:12 AM
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@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

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