[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant

[cabron]

I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.

Not seeing him winning in just under two rounds, this fight is champion vs champion, unless Canelo see one opening and Caleb was caught off guard and not playing defense. But as I have said, these are champions and knows what to do in the early goings and not get caught.

Under 9.5 is a better bet with Canelo's fight, cause he can get his opponents around 6 and up. When he has settled down and see what his opponent can offer and how he will react with his feint and traps.

Canelo will find a shot as he always does. It's a champ vs champ but the experience in facing big opponents will show how hard they could win over fighters. If Caleb can block his jaws, it's the liver punch that will make Calen open. It's how they find an opening to boxers who curl themselves.

Comparing their skills, it's going to surprise us that the fight could end in the first round if they will just fight to stand their ground.

[Kemarit]

I´m a little more daring, I think that Canelo will knock out in the first 2 rounds, I think he will not reach the 3rd, the reason is the same why you think, that his lack of manners makes Canelo angry, and there is something that you cannot mix when you have a skill such as boxing, anger, if you fight with anger many times you do not measure the consequence of the damage that the blows will do, it is for that reason that many times some boxers die inside the ring due to a blow or contusion to the head.

Under two rounds is just too much, I think under 9.5 is a good bet if you think this fight will end in a knockout. The first few rounds will be some sort of sizing their opponents and adjusting to the range and the real fighting would be on the 2nd quarter of the fight.

I haven't seen Canelo knock out his opponents in under 2 rounds. And it's not good for the fans who paid hundred if not thousands of dollars to see him fight live, not worth the money. He used at least make it a good fight for us.

Canelo has been through this many times already, his opponents usually trash-talk him hoping to provoke him, and lost his focus come fight time but definitely that is not going to happen as Canelo is a disciplined fighter and he sticks to the fight plan as always.

Sure, he might have been offended by Caleb's trash talking. But he is a champion and only one thing in his mind come fight night, to beat Caleb and take his belt and be the best super middleweight.

[bbc.reporter]

@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

[AicecreaME]

@TravelMug. It is 2.00 for under 9.5 rounds. The odds are available and offered on Nitrogensports. I reckon they remain the best website for basic odds and offers.

In any case, Canelo is also training for under 9.5 rounds hehehe. This might become under 7.5 rounds when the fight nears. Caleb Plant will regret talking about his mother hehe.

https://youtu.be/R4lGsixTjoE

I'm gonna take that odds, this fight will not gonna go to the distance, Canelo is motivated to knockout Plant because of the disrespectful manners of Plant during the press conference. Actually, I have never seen Canelo this angry during the press conference in his previous fights, and guess what, he still dominate his opponent so most likely this is an exemption, he would dominate and KO his opponent early, 1-3 rounds is my prediction.

if you are rooting for canelo, yes much better if you will bet the over/under as the odds are better than betting full-time. as canelo is motivated to finish this fight early because of the surrounding drama, placing bet under may be a good choice. this event is fast approaching so hoping that no other reasons that they will cancel this fight.

and btw, based from this article, caleb was not actually talking about his mom, but he was referring to canelo himself. just a misunderstanding.

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

Canelo has the experience while Caleb is still gaining some, so my opinion is Caleb here is the underdog. I'm not underestimating him but if Caleb is going to lose, that's for sure because of lack of experience. My bet would be on Canelo because mexican boxers are the rival of great filipino boxers, and their determination to fight is no joke, they'll fight 'till their drop on the ring.

[bisdak40]

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

I hope Baofeng will agree with me that it's Billy Saunders that have the biggest chance of dethroning Canelo but he failed miserably so I don't think Caleb stood a chance against him even if he would box and run but I think Canelo's vicious body shots would slow down and hurt Plant in the latter rounds.

Seen the practice video, oh man, if some of those hit Caleb then it's over for him.

[Russlenat]

Did Caleb Plant also watch that knockout practice video hehehe?

In all honesty I do not know much about Caleb Plant. There was a trainer who was a guest in Mike Tyson’s podcast that predicted Caleb Plant can win because he has better boxing than Canelo. @Boafeng, you are the boxing expert, do you agree Caleb Plant is underestimated and has a better chance?

I hope Baofeng will agree with me that it's Billy Saunders that have the biggest chance of dethroning Canelo but he failed miserably so I don't think Caleb stood a chance against him even if he would box and run but I think Canelo's vicious body shots would slow down and hurt Plant in the latter rounds.

Seen the practice video, oh man, if some of those hit Caleb then it's over for him.

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

[agustina2]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

[Fredomago]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

Alvarez is taking this fight seriously, the chance that he also increasing his practices and more on watching Plant's previous fights to see the type of caliber Plant have, he is not perfect but he has better experienced fighting bigger and tougher opponents than Plant, we all see that press-con action and you said it right, Alvarez quick hand take Plant into surprise.

He did not see the punch coming. What if they already inside the ring, and that punch got a good combo? He might suffer a KO by that time?

It's interesting and both camps are hardly prepared for this fight. Bookies are in favor of Alvarez, good for those gamblers who will side to Plant if upset takes place. 

[South Park]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.

[Jating]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

He did not see the punch coming. What if they already inside the ring, and that punch got a good combo? He might suffer a KO by that time?

It's interesting and both camps are hardly prepared for this fight. Bookies are in favor of Alvarez, good for those gamblers who will side to Plant if upset takes place. 

He was slow and never anticipate that Canelo will throw a punch on him.

Caleb doesn't have good movement, maybe because in his previous fights, he was the aggressor early and his opponents keeps backing up. But this time he will be in the defense, he can't just push Canelo because he will be meet by those body shots and left hooks or uppercut.

Of course bookies are going to favor Alvarez, he is the A-side and the better fighter. Not underestimating Plant, but it is obvious that Canelo might get that 0 from him.

[chaser15]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.

I admire you guys that you are seeing Caleb Plant has a chance to make more damage to Canelo. I hope that kind of bravery will be brought to your actual betting. I know there's always a chance for Canelo to lose but he is now more pumped and ready for the fight since he already received trashtalks even just before that press conference.

All those tirades are now on Canelo's mind and once his anger unleashed, expect that the fight might end up in a Knock Out.

[tippytoes]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.

I admire you guys that you are seeing Caleb Plant has a chance to make more damage to Canelo. I hope that kind of bravery will be brought to your actual betting. I know there's always a chance for Canelo to lose but he is now more pumped and ready for the fight since he already received trashtalks even just before that press conference.

All those tirades are now on Canelo's mind and once his anger unleashed, expect that the fight might end up in a Knock Out.

That's funny though, "that kind of bravery will be brought to your actual betting".  I don't know if there are many bettors here that will indeed bet on Caleb. For sure, many will bet on Canelo, maybe not on full time but high likely in the over/under.  Because betting at full time on Canelo is not worth much as the odds are very low. So even bookies are heavily favoring Canelo here.

[bbc.reporter]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.

Canelo will be too quick for Caleb. Did you see his moves during the press conference? Canelo took off Caleb Plant’s sunglasses with the left hand then slapped him on the head with the right hand in milliseconds hehehe.

In any case, this is off the topic, however, I am excited to share this with you Canelo and Pacquiao fans. Who is this young pup training with Canelo?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6qtF0ZpTWc

[stadus]

Practice is different from the actual fight, although Canelo is exceptionally good we can never guarantee a win since Caleb would surely work to increase his chance of winning this fight. Canelo is getting better and better every time, but he is not perfect, he could also make a mistake that might cause him a defeat.

I agree with you that Canelo is not perfect but even Caleb is doing great from practice and working hard to increase his chance to win the fight, Canelo is also having the same. A great example that Caleb doesn't have that good reflexxes is when Canelo is able to throw a punch on his face at their press conference. That was actually easy to avoid but Caleb is not paying attention. Now that it happened, Caleb should watch for that.

I do not think we should make any conclusions about the fighting abilities of Caleb based on that incident, after all maybe he was not expecting that reaction from Canelo and he was simply unable to avoid the hit as he was surprised by the turn of events, however it is clear by the odds being given by the casinos that Canelo is the favorite by far and unless Caleb can connect some good punches at the beginning of the fight I do not see him having a chance against Canelo.

Canelo will be too quick for Caleb. Did you see his moves during the press conference? Canelo took off Caleb Plant’s sunglasses with the left hand then slapped him on the head with the right hand in milliseconds hehehe.

In any case, this is off the topic, however, I am excited to share this with you Canelo and Pacquiao fans. Who is this young pup training with Canelo?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6qtF0ZpTWc

Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

[Oasisman]

Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

Would be bad advise though to follow his father's footsteps, yeah it could just been a hobby because as far as I can remember he fought or something or there were videos circulating that the younger Pacquiao trainer.

In any case, even as great as his father or even Canelo, it will be very different.

Just the great Julio Cezar Chaver Sr. he was one of Mexico's great but look at how JCC Jr turns out to be.

[Viscore]

Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

I would be optimistic that his son will have a good future in boxing, in fact, Manny's son does not need to fight because they are one of the richest families in the Philippines already, but it seems like his father's passion for boxing is pass on to him and I hope it will not pressure him but inspire him to improve more and be an entertaining boxer like his father.

[South Park]

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

That is who will be Canelo's willing dance partner?

Floyd has Manny to generate the biggest PPV ever
Then Floyd vs Oscar Dela Hoya

Then when he started to crossover or make exhibitions match, Floyd vs Conor.

But since Canelo has clean up the 160-168 lbs there are no fighters that can give him that huge amount of money Floyd does in his career.

GGG? Nah, I don't think, this is the third fight and supposedly they should have fought like 2 years ago.

Canelo is probably going to need to move up a division if he wants to get even more money, he feels very comfortable in his division and I have no doubts that if he has his sight on being the undisputed of the division then he can do it, but there are no huge fights left for him, he can attract a crowd but if he really wants to earn more money then he needs an opponent that can do the same and in his division this is very difficult to do as I think he is clearly the best.

[Fredomago]

Will Pacquiao's son be able to follow his footstep in boxing? I think he is serious because he is now training with Canelo who is the top pound for pound king, Manny's son does not have to break the achievement of his father but winning a championship would already bring honor to his country.

I'm not underestimating the kid, but I guess he's not going to get closer to his father's achievements.
Manny has dedicated his blood and sweat for his passion who started at a very young age. Trained his body with all sorts of hard work. I guess there's a huge difference between dedication and passion over hobbies or a temporary interest.
I've seen him fight once, and he's not actually a bad fighter but what he needs to find is the purpose why he box.

On the other hand, Canelo could teach him a lot of lessons that Manny didn't taught him.

No offense or whatsoever, but I agree that the kid's future in this sport might not be the same as how his father established and achieved his career. All this dedication that puts Pacquiao to be the one of those few boxing legendary who bring pride not only to his country but a hero in every boxing enthusiast.

Though he might gain lots of skills from Canelo that he can use, just wondering does his mommy Jinky will allow to risk his life?
they already have everything in terms of financial aspects, so why risk his health?

Canelo is probably going to need to move up a division if he wants to get even more money, he feels very comfortable in his division and I have no doubts that if he has his sight on being the undisputed of the division then he can do it, but there are no huge fights left for him, he can attract a crowd but if he really wants to earn more money then he needs an opponent that can do the same and in his division this is very difficult to do as I think he is clearly the best.

If he wanted to collect more, moving up to another division is one of the best options for him. If he will do this, fan will buy him more, especially if he continues his dominance.

[Ziskinberg]

Almost $500 million and up being earned by Floyd if I'm not mistaken. So he is there on top of everyone including Canelo.

But I think Canelo will be the second boxer in the list after retirement. Mayweather has different set of fans, they watch and buy live tickets because they want to see him lose, lol. But so far still undefeated record.

Mayweather's career is over he is semi-retired he will fight for exhibition, Canelo's career is at its peak he will have a lot of great fights and a lot of money coming in, in three or four years he can surpass Mayweather's career earning, and could become one of the boxers with highest earnings, Canelo is one of the most exciting boxers to watch in this era.

That is who will be Canelo's willing dance partner?

Floyd has Manny to generate the biggest PPV ever
Then Floyd vs Oscar Dela Hoya

Then when he started to crossover or make exhibitions match, Floyd vs Conor.

But since Canelo has clean up the 160-168 lbs there are no fighters that can give him that huge amount of money Floyd does in his career.

GGG? Nah, I don't think, this is the third fight and supposedly they should have fought like 2 years ago.

Canelo is probably going to need to move up a division if he wants to get even more money, he feels very comfortable in his division and I have no doubts that if he has his sight on being the undisputed of the division then he can do it, but there are no huge fights left for him, he can attract a crowd but if he really wants to earn more money then he needs an opponent that can do the same and in his division this is very difficult to do as I think he is clearly the best.

Exactly, he is still young so he will have more fights but not in the current division as he is already dominating now. Giving himself a new challenge would make the fans more excited about seeing him fighting a heavier and bigger opponent, and if he still dominates (which likely would happen) then that would not only give him a lot of money but his popularity will also grow and might become a hall of famer when he retires.