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September 13, 2021, 07:43:24 AM
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As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected.

I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.

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September 13, 2021, 08:20:01 AM
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Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today

Not in shape today? Holyfield is just old. And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent. Anyway, this fight was a proof that younger fighters wins older fighter. Nothing much to see.

Not surprised that Silva won. Like I've said, Ortiz is far from fighting right now. One hook and that is it. Easy.

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September 13, 2021, 10:04:11 AM
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And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent.

Belfort vs Dela Hoya match was switched from exhibition match to professional match. Winning or losing will be part of their respective records.

Therefore, Belfort's training was for a professional match. Since there's only a few days left before the fight and Dela Hoya contracted the virus, he's not able to fight now and Holyfield replaced him. And now at the date of the fight, the supposed professional boxing now turned into an exhibition but Belfort didn't hold back as he already spend time training to fight professionally.
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September 13, 2021, 10:37:09 AM
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I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

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September 13, 2021, 10:44:17 AM
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I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

After what happened, I think he will think twice if he will ever fight again. He got KO in round 1 only, there's no excitement in his next fight as we all see that a 58-year-old man cannot fight anymore, even though he is very popular before but when someone gets old, things really changed.

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September 13, 2021, 01:23:29 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

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September 13, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

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September 13, 2021, 01:29:55 PM
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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!

I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?

It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

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September 13, 2021, 01:43:26 PM
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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

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September 13, 2021, 05:38:15 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
I am not so sure I agree with this, exhibition fights were fine when everything was closed down and we were in a lockdown and people were looking for any form of entertainment and we found in exhibition fights a way to deal with the fact most professional sports leagues and individual events were canceled, but now that the world of sports has comeback in full force I do not think we need something like this anymore at all.
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September 13, 2021, 06:50:22 PM
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.
That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.
You could punch a person a million times and not knock them out, or you could punch just once and knock them out cold, or hell if wrongly punched in other circumstances even maybe kill them, many people died from getting punched before. So, boxing is a very risky but also lucky sport, you are putting your life into danger by going out all the time, but since these are professional fighters they know what is what and glove severely drops the death rate by a million.

Yet in no way or shape, just because there was an opening and Silva managed to hit a counter punch, doesn't mean that it would become a knock out punch each time, replicate that a thousand times and maybe 10-20% of that becomes a KO, normally boxers get punched like that all the time and move like nothing happened. So that punch was definitely a bit lucky, of course it was calculated punch that is 100% expected to connect, but it could have just hurt and move on, that KO impact of it was the lucky part.

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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.
Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!
I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?
It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

Well, knockouts are part of the game my friend. And if I was a boxer, and I had the option to do so, I would knock out my opponent to dominate the match and my opponent. It creates an insane amount of adrenaline rush. And first found knockouts are quite hard to bet on. And I never thought that Silva would lose this match, he had the upper hand. Which he eventually showed by making Tito fall face first in the ground in round 1.

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September 13, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.

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September 13, 2021, 07:58:19 PM
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I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

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September 13, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
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I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

Anderson Silva did what he said, he was being attacked by Ortiz aggressively and he was just counter-punching, unfortunately, Ortiz's boxing skills was way inferior to Silva and he got caught up with a solid punch. Maybe it's just a mind game and Silva being a warrior knows what he is doing, and Tito Ortiz just takes the bait, I wonder if he will challenge Silva for a rematch.

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I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.
Anderson Silva is a legit boxer and it was not a huge surprise that he could stop Tito Ortiz in one round as everyone who knew these fighters knows their skill level and the odds were not that high as you claim. I am not shocked at the outcome because Vitor Belfort always started fast and he always rushes and that is what got him the win as you cannot expect a 58 year old Evander Holyfield to be fast.
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.

Both of them are slow, but Tito's punches can be seen by Anderson, that's why he has dodge it and he know's that he can still be hurt by those punches even if it is not that strong, so he just go with the motions to duck at least. As as I have said, the punch from Tito is very predictable, and in boxing if you do that your opponent can read you and be ready for a counter and that's why happen here. He was caught with a big punch from Silva, yeah you can call it unfair because Tito has no experienced in boxing.

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September 13, 2021, 09:51:02 PM
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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Although post fight interview says he is unsure of his future, but definitely I'm speculating that he will have another boxing fight. Names like Jake Paul or even Roy Jones Jr.

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September 13, 2021, 11:52:19 PM
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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Agree. He didn't stopped training and has a regular activity of it. Not just to prepare for a fight but part of his maintaining his physical activity.

And the advantage of it was, he is always well-prepared now that he is consider to participate in an exhibition match to make money out of retirement. Smiley
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