[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11

[Jawhead999]

But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he's still young I tend to agree with you, but he's already 46 years old and it's father time as he matured. I wouldn't expect anything for old people with no experience, I say no experience because he never in boxing before... he's a MMA fighter. I believe he will just play safely and play with strategy he more comfortable.

I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight.

I don't think so, the serious injuries he had was 7 years ago when he break his leg. But this is boxing not muay thai or kickboxing... so it's not really a problem, Silva is still prime with his current condition and age right now.

[poldanmig]

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

[Twinkledoe]

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

[Johnyz]

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

This is a different sports that requires a lot of patience before if you don’t have it, you might lose control and this could be a disaster for you, though they’ve used to fight in MMA I guess they already trained to become a boxer now. Ortiz will race a huge fighter here, and it wont be easy for him but he has the chance to take the title, this could be a fight of patience. Well, as long as there’s a money some fighters will do it even if its on a different genre.

[Kemarit]

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

Yes, I was shocked to hear the news that Oscar contracted covid-19, he didn't take care of himself, he knows that he has a match. Anyhow, the fight is not totally scrapped, Evander Holyfield step up and willing to engage Belfort here.

But the bout will move to Florida instead, ticket price remains.

And I'm sure how Vitor will hold up against a heavyweight here. I reckon that this match is going to be fix and will last the full 8 rounds and could be a draw.

[agustina2]

I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

[danherbias07]

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

Actually he doesn't even need to read the whole thread. It's in the title. 

I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.
Casting my bet for Tito the underdog.  Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.

[carlisle1]

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.

They needed not to go out anymore to insure that they would not get the virus,

this example will alarm everyone  about this virus as even you already got vaccinated, the chance to get infected still high.

Casting my bet for Tito the underdog.   Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.

That's the spirit bro! huge outcome with the risk that you are taking now, who knows maybe it's  a script that this event promoters already setup.

few more days left , best of luck !

[Ziskinberg]

I didn't expect that I am not gonna see De La Hoya anymore, with the current news, I think he will not anymore fight this year, so let's see who will be able to replace him as the fight is the main event, they should still keep the excitement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-withdraws-vitor-belfort-fight-n1278513

[btc_angela]

I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Holyfield is now the replacement for Oscar, I'm sure he is also disappointed contracting the virus because he is really on the go to make a comeback fight. Unfortunately, in the world we live in today, the enemy is invincible.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

Hopefully they will, they should learn from Oscar here. Don't go outside of public places and limit themselves around many people until fight night. Money has been invested on this fight and there's no way that it will be cancelled by the promotional company.

[eaLiTy]

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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

Silva is the superior fight, as i said earlier in this thread Anderson silva will beat Tito Ortiz in any competitive sport, be it MMA, BJJ or Boxing on the wrestling front Tito Ortiz might have an advantage but the rest Anderson Silva is far far superior.

[Yamifoud]

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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.

Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

You did  not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement  . The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field . I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

[tippytoes]

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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

You did  not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement  . The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field . I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

This one, I think, is worth just watching for entertainment purposes. But for heavy betting, I don't think this is worth to place on in my opinion. We grew up hearing name of Holyfield but with his age today, I don't think he has the same stamina to even stay in the ring. Just another exhibition fight to watch without pressure.

[nitrobetting]

I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.

Yeah, we will see how Tito's body will respond on this fight. If he wanted out of shape or at least gasses out, then I'm seeing Silva knocking him down or out in this fight.

If he come prepared, then at least he could give us a entertaining fight till it last. Yes, Silva is well rounded, as he last fought with a pro boxer and really has the edge here. At least Tito can make money even if he losses against Anderson. And probably Anderson will continue to fight, and maybe see him challenge the winner of Holyfield vs Belfort.

[danherbias07]

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

Correct. Aren't there any fighters that would be near the age of Belfort. That's just silly because there will always be a reason if ever Belfort wins it.
Fans and analysts will just simply say because he is too old for the match. Unlike when they match him with almost the same age as him, there will be not much room for doubts and bets will go higher. Because right now even though I vouch for underdogs, I am in no doubt to bet for Belfort and I think most gamblers will do the same.

That's the spirit bro! huge outcome with the risk that you are taking now, who knows maybe it's  a script that this event promoters already setup.

few more days left , best of luck !

Thanks bro, beers are also being chilled. Cheers. 

[W Jr.]

If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

[Ziskinberg]

If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

It still depends on how they take care of their body, not because they are already at that age, they won't be fun to watch or they could not give a good fight.  Look at the list of oldest champions in boxing, the oldest was Steve Ward a 61-year-old man.
source : 10 Oldest Professional Boxers in the World

[TheNineClub]

If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

I mean, time works on both fighters and when it comes to ring rust Anderson has had more recent fights but those were losses and maybe he's spent more... BUT, this is a boxing match and MMA math does not apply here imho. The one thing that does appl is that Anderson is and always was a better striker than Tito.