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August 21, 2021, 09:10:50 AM
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I totally missed the final presser hours ago, good thing it was in youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bA2jOmLYU

Manny Pacquiao hasn't change a bit, still very respectful of his opponent, same with Ugas. Yordenis though a bit taller than Manny but i don't see any problem with that. He has face many tall opponents throughout his legendary career. In 2 days we will see the weigh-in, and it's interesting to look Manny body as it developed throughout in his 40's.

Sharing again the final weigh-in, both boxers making the weight limit of 147 lbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwK1nHsvbY

Do you guys think that Pacquiao has aged? it seems to me the same Pacquiao years ago, although I would say that the body is not that 'hard', but maybe of the effects of the light in the studio.
Watched it and yes, there's no hint of ageing yet. Bro, it's good to be fit. It just gave me the idea to do more exercise every day.  Grin I want to look that young even when I grow old.
Pacman is ready. His muscles are angry and even when he smiles, the muscles on his face are showing.  Grin
Kidding aside, I am glad to see Pacquiao will set foot on the ring again and who knows, this might be the last time we will see him stepping on that floor.
So, this should not be missed by every boxing fan especially Filipino supporters. Good luck to all your bets.

Less than 24 hrs left before we could witness this much anticipated match. Some people saying it will be the last match between the two and Pacquiao  may not play more. Any truth in these statements ?



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August 21, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
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Do you guys think that Pacquiao has aged? it seems to me the same Pacquiao years ago, although I would say that the body is not that 'hard', but maybe of the effects of the light in the studio.
Same, his face doesn't change even he's already 42 years old but still young like 30. His power, skills, stamina and speed doesn't change at all, he's proving a 42 years old can still become a professional boxer.

Manny Pacquiao has many advantages of his small body to move more quick, strong and very fast. He's very senior in boxing, with his experience he already know various boxing style of their opponent.

However I watch a video said Ugas left bicep injured, it's true or fake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Fxhu39LoU

This is a screen grab from what @Kemarit has posted:



And looking at his previous fights, he seems to have this kind of abnormalities so I'm not sure if that is a tore biceps, or if he has been carrying it for years already so he has gotten used to it. I do hope that it would be than excuse after Pacquiao beat him.

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August 21, 2021, 09:34:20 AM
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I totally missed the final presser hours ago, good thing it was in youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bA2jOmLYU

Manny Pacquiao hasn't change a bit, still very respectful of his opponent, same with Ugas. Yordenis though a bit taller than Manny but i don't see any problem with that. He has face many tall opponents throughout his legendary career. In 2 days we will see the weigh-in, and it's interesting to look Manny body as it developed throughout in his 40's.

Sharing again the final weigh-in, both boxers making the weight limit of 147 lbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwK1nHsvbY

Do you guys think that Pacquiao has aged? it seems to me the same Pacquiao years ago, although I would say that the body is not that 'hard', but maybe of the effects of the light in the studio.
Watched it and yes, there's no hint of ageing yet. Bro, it's good to be fit. It just gave me the idea to do more exercise every day.  Grin I want to look that young even when I grow old.
Pacman is ready. His muscles are angry and even when he smiles, the muscles on his face are showing.  Grin
Kidding aside, I am glad to see Pacquiao will set foot on the ring again and who knows, this might be the last time we will see him stepping on that floor.
So, this should not be missed by every boxing fan especially Filipino supporters. Good luck to all your bets.

Yeah, blame it all on Manny's genetics, he still fit at his 40's and I remember Freddie Roach said that Manny's metabolism is really very different as it is hard for him to gain weight just to make the 147 lbs weight limit. In this fight he weigh in at 146 lbs something. So that is true, even at 42 years old his body is the same at what when he was in his 20's. For sure, this is a must for all boxing fans around the world as this might be the last fight of this legendary career.
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August 21, 2021, 10:30:05 AM
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This is a screen grab from what @Kemarit has posted:



And looking at his previous fights, he seems to have this kind of abnormalities so I'm not sure if that is a tore biceps, or if he has been carrying it for years already so he has gotten used to it. I do hope that it would be than excuse after Pacquiao beat him.

That really looks unusual but if you take a look at his fight against Porter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0zZObAGZc8
you will see that he already has that deformed bicep, so it's not something that we should worry about, it's the discrepancies in skill and power that will make a big difference, Pacquiao has a lot of edges, Ugas has to come out with surprises, I like him going all out as he did in his match against Porter.

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August 21, 2021, 10:45:01 AM
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I totally missed the final presser hours ago, good thing it was in youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4bA2jOmLYU

Manny Pacquiao hasn't change a bit, still very respectful of his opponent, same with Ugas. Yordenis though a bit taller than Manny but i don't see any problem with that. He has face many tall opponents throughout his legendary career. In 2 days we will see the weigh-in, and it's interesting to look Manny body as it developed throughout in his 40's.

Sharing again the final weigh-in, both boxers making the weight limit of 147 lbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwK1nHsvbY

Do you guys think that Pacquiao has aged? it seems to me the same Pacquiao years ago, although I would say that the body is not that 'hard', but maybe of the effects of the light in the studio.
His age might affect his speed and agility but his stamina remains the same. There is an interview where he said that he is having a sparring with his Coach for around 30+ rounds.
His power has affected by his age so he is just increasing his stamina and will take the fight into a decision and we've seen it in his last 10 fights where he won 9 of his 10 fights on it by decision (from 2013-2020).

He might be the same Pacquiao since he is agile and fast but his power is somewhat declined because of his age but its still ok and we've seen him fighting still even though he is 42 years old already.

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August 21, 2021, 10:55:16 AM
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I've seen in the news that Pacquiao hinted that this would be his last fight so he encourages anyone to watch it (maybe as part of the promotion too). On the other hand, Yordenis Ugas claimed that he will now put Pacquiao into retirement and make the upcoming match his last fight (we already used on hearing this).

Although honestly, I don't believe that this would be Pacquiao's last fight. He will be busy for the election until May next year so I think he still has 1 fight to pursue depends on the result of his election bid.

I actually think that this fight is the last professional fight that will be fought by pacman, because if you look at the age of 41 years, it is not a golden period for Manny Pacquiao as a professional boxer and maybe it's time for him to focus more on continuing his political career and I heard news if Pacman does plan to run for president of the Philippines in the 2022 election.



With a replacement opponent, this fight is a lot easier than the Spence fight and he may not absorb too many punches here so I think he can still fight at the age of 43 and that would be next year but of course, that depends on the outcome of his presidential bid (if ever he decides to run for that position).

On the other hand, it would be awesome if he defends his WBA title (considering he wins this one) while he is the sitting president of the Philippines lol.


With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

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August 21, 2021, 11:40:00 AM
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With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

The last time Pacquiao knock down an opponent was three years ago against Matthysse, Matthysse was already an aging boxer and he suffered a knee injury, Ugas is 35 years old but not showing a sign like what Mathhysse has shown, he will have a hard time with Ugas who is known to have a strong chin and can go toe to toe, although Pacquiao is a strong favorite we should not disregard Ugas, he can still pull out an upset.

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August 21, 2021, 11:44:35 AM
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This is a screen grab from what @Kemarit has posted:
And looking at his previous fights, he seems to have this kind of abnormalities so I'm not sure if that is a tore biceps, or if he has been carrying it for years already so he has gotten used to it. I do hope that it would be than excuse after Pacquiao beat him.

That really looks unusual but if you take a look at his fight against Porter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0zZObAGZc8
you will see that he already has that deformed bicep, so it's not something that we should worry about, it's the discrepancies in skill and power that will make a big difference, Pacquiao has a lot of edges, Ugas has to come out with surprises, I like him going all out as he did in his match against Porter.

He has a power to knock his opponent so even if you see something unusual to his body but still he has a good punch that can possibly knock out Pacquaio so they shouldn't treat this as easy fight for them and Pacquaio need to respect Ugas and his ability so that he will not get any hard hit that can possibly make him sleep on the ring. But I believe Pacquaio will get this fight as I'm still impress of his speed and power shown on his past practices.

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August 21, 2021, 11:54:13 AM
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With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

The last time Pacquiao knock down an opponent was three years ago against Matthysse, Matthysse was already an aging boxer and he suffered a knee injury, Ugas is 35 years old but not showing a sign like what Mathhysse has shown, he will have a hard time with Ugas who is known to have a strong chin and can go toe to toe, although Pacquiao is a strong favorite we should not disregard Ugas, he can still pull out an upset.

Boxers that have incredible pain tolerance and endurance at their 'old age' are still terrifying fighters in the ring. Ugas, at 35 years old, is still tough as nails and can possibly catch a flurry of punches from Pacquiao and survive. I'm not discounting Pacquiao's power punches. He's still one of the hardest hitters out there, but I believe it would still take a lot of work from the Pacman in order to take down the Cuban fighter.

This may be the last fight of the aging boxer from the Philippines, too. I don't think there's left for him to prove to the world in terms of boxing. He probably should retire too, if he's really serious into pursuing public service that he's doing right now.

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August 21, 2021, 11:55:53 AM
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Do you guys think that Pacquiao has aged? it seems to me the same Pacquiao years ago, although I would say that the body is not that 'hard', but maybe of the effects of the light in the studio.
Same, his face doesn't change even he's already 42 years old but still young like 30. His power, skills, stamina and speed doesn't change at all, he's proving a 42 years old can still become a professional boxer.

Manny Pacquiao has many advantages of his small body to move more quick, strong and very fast. He's very senior in boxing, with his experience he already know various boxing style of their opponent.

However I watch a video said Ugas left bicep injured, it's true or fake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Fxhu39LoU

He must have a strong character and stress free lifestyle that might be the key why he still looks young at his age. I mean there are 40 somethings that already shows signs of aging. Of course I don't have proof of the stress free lifestyle since he is also a politician in the country. He might have some regimen that he does or maybe he always do checkups with doctors. Also getting massages and saunas that no mere mortal can have unless he is filthy rich.

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August 21, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
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Next year, his time will be devoted to politics, so no time to train in boxing and if he wins, we know what to expect about his journey in boxing.

It's time for him to say goodbye, but not too early, lol... I have a feeling that even how popular he is in the Philippines, he would not win in the election and boxing fans would not allow that as they want him to continue fighting to bring glory to the country through boxing.
Lol he is already a Successful Senator of the Philippines so how come that he will not Win when he already does several time from Congressman to Senatorial position.
and also Filipino are not short minded people mate, they will vote because of His performance being politician and not because he is a Boxing legend.

It's hard to debate on politics as we have our own opinion, successful for others does not mean it's successful to you or to us.. For me, Pacquiao does not have enough knowledge and qualifications to be in a higher office, and as a senator now, I have not even seen him so active in the Senate. IMO, he only wins because he is popular in boxing, unlike our current president which won because of his good performance when he was still a Mayor.
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August 21, 2021, 12:40:30 PM
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I pull the trigger with Manny winning by decision days ago:



And nothing has change, actually it's not 2.19, I have my bet boosted. So it seems people are more looking into Manny winning by KO or the fight not going to distance. But I will stick on bet, I'm seeing Ugas lasting full 12 rounds, but Manny winning by UD. Best of luck to all bettors.

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August 21, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
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Next year, his time will be devoted to politics, so no time to train in boxing and if he wins, we know what to expect about his journey in boxing.

It's time for him to say goodbye, but not too early, lol... I have a feeling that even how popular he is in the Philippines, he would not win in the election and boxing fans would not allow that as they want him to continue fighting to bring glory to the country through boxing.
Lol he is already a Successful Senator of the Philippines so how come that he will not Win when he already does several time from Congressman to Senatorial position.
and also Filipino are not short minded people mate, they will vote because of His performance being politician and not because he is a Boxing legend.

It's hard to debate on politics as we have our own opinion, successful for others does not mean it's successful to you or to us.. For me, Pacquiao does not have enough knowledge and qualifications to be in a higher office, and as a senator now, I have not even seen him so active in the Senate. IMO, he only wins because he is popular in boxing, unlike our current president which won because of his good performance when he was still a Mayor.

I Agree the popularity of Pacquiao in his boxing career was the one who elevates him to win the Senate, and if its not because of it he would never really became a senator, But for me, I really don't like him in politics and right now he is planning to run for the presidency, in my opinion, there will be people that may control him if he becomes president, Even though he is helping many Filipinos amidst some tragedies, and typhoons he is still not qualified to be in the highest position in politics, He can surely be a public servant by helping people and let a more capable person to handle the Phillipine economic and social issues.
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August 21, 2021, 01:29:55 PM
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Next year, his time will be devoted to politics, so no time to train in boxing and if he wins, we know what to expect about his journey in boxing.

It's time for him to say goodbye, but not too early, lol... I have a feeling that even how popular he is in the Philippines, he would not win in the election and boxing fans would not allow that as they want him to continue fighting to bring glory to the country through boxing.
Lol he is already a Successful Senator of the Philippines so how come that he will not Win when he already does several time from Congressman to Senatorial position.
and also Filipino are not short minded people mate, they will vote because of His performance being politician and not because he is a Boxing legend.

It's hard to debate on politics as we have our own opinion, successful for others does not mean it's successful to you or to us.. For me, Pacquiao does not have enough knowledge and qualifications to be in a higher office, and as a senator now, I have not even seen him so active in the Senate. IMO, he only wins because he is popular in boxing, unlike our current president which won because of his good performance when he was still a Mayor.

I Agree the popularity of Pacquiao in his boxing career was the one who elevates him to win the Senate, and if its not because of it he would never really became a senator, But for me, I really don't like him in politics and right now he is planning to run for the presidency, in my opinion, there will be people that may control him if he becomes president, Even though he is helping many Filipinos amidst some tragedies, and typhoons he is still not qualified to be in the highest position in politics, He can surely be a public servant by helping people and let a more capable person to handle the Phillipine economic and social issues.

Smart voters from the Philippines knows there's a lot of smart politicians that deserves the position of Manny Pacquiao, but the mass has voted him to be part of the senatorial winners in the past election, and now seeking for a Presidency, I think it's unlikely that he will win, he did not even top as the number 1 in the senatorial election.

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August 21, 2021, 02:00:00 PM
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With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

The last time Pacquiao knock down an opponent was three years ago against Matthysse, Matthysse was already an aging boxer and he suffered a knee injury, Ugas is 35 years old but not showing a sign like what Mathhysse has shown, he will have a hard time with Ugas who is known to have a strong chin and can go toe to toe, although Pacquiao is a strong favorite we should not disregard Ugas, he can still pull out an upset.
In that fight, a lot of people voted for pacman as the favorite winner, but as you said anything can happen in the ring, I think pacman only wins in terms of experience compared to ugas, and actually there are many factors in favor of ugas to be able to beat pacman in the match later, because indeed he has been very active in training and competing so far and this is different from pacman who only does training preparations only a few weeks before the match starts, in my opinion, pacman will be very difficult to beat the ugas and maybe the ugas that will win later.
Even so I will still support pacman as my favorite boxer besides mike tyson Grin

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August 21, 2021, 02:08:08 PM
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With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

The last time Pacquiao knock down an opponent was three years ago against Matthysse, Matthysse was already an aging boxer and he suffered a knee injury, Ugas is 35 years old but not showing a sign like what Mathhysse has shown, he will have a hard time with Ugas who is known to have a strong chin and can go toe to toe, although Pacquiao is a strong favorite we should not disregard Ugas, he can still pull out an upset.
In that fight, a lot of people voted for pacman as the favorite winner, but as you said anything can happen in the ring, I think pacman only wins in terms of experience compared to ugas, and actually there are many factors in favor of ugas to be able to beat pacman in the match later, because indeed he has been very active in training and competing so far and this is different from pacman who only does training preparations only a few weeks before the match starts, in my opinion, pacman will be very difficult to beat the ugas and maybe the ugas that will win later.
Even so I will still support pacman as my favorite boxer besides mike tyson Grin


Ugas is not so popular compare to Manny so the vote comes from the fans is expected to go to Pacquaio since he is one of the famous boxer in this Era, but we cannot underestimate Ugas we should remember that he's still a champion so even if he is underdog of this fight provably he can do unexpected things in the ring. So excited to watch their fight tomorrow and for sure the some parts of the world will stop since many will stay at home and watch this fight.

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August 21, 2021, 03:02:14 PM
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Next year, his time will be devoted to politics, so no time to train in boxing and if he wins, we know what to expect about his journey in boxing.

It's time for him to say goodbye, but not too early, lol... I have a feeling that even how popular he is in the Philippines, he would not win in the election and boxing fans would not allow that as they want him to continue fighting to bring glory to the country through boxing.
Lol he is already a Successful Senator of the Philippines so how come that he will not Win when he already does several time from Congressman to Senatorial position.
and also Filipino are not short minded people mate, they will vote because of His performance being politician and not because he is a Boxing legend.

It's hard to debate on politics as we have our own opinion, successful for others does not mean it's successful to you or to us.. For me, Pacquiao does not have enough knowledge and qualifications to be in a higher office, and as a senator now, I have not even seen him so active in the Senate. IMO, he only wins because he is popular in boxing, unlike our current president which won because of his good performance when he was still a Mayor.

There is no doubt that Pacquiao is generous as he has tremendous amounts of money. With his character also, there is also no doubt that he is a good person but in terms of qualifications of being a President of our country, I think there are other people who are far qualified compared to him. If Pacquiao aims to help people by pursuing presidency, then he could always help but without attaining such position.

As far as I know, I heard that Pacquiao mentioned that his fight with Ugas will be his last fight- that is why he is telling everyone to watch his fight tomorrow!

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August 21, 2021, 03:16:45 PM
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With his current age, of course it will be difficult for Pacquiao to win a KO/TKO victory over Ugas, especially if Ugas is a boxer who has strong stamina and of course the age factor is younger than pacman.
Even though,I favoring Pacman as the winner in that bout to claim the WBA (Super) welterweight world title.
I think pacquiao might benefit a little, because Ugas is not the aggressive type of boxer like Errol Spence Jr style of play.

The last time Pacquiao knock down an opponent was three years ago against Matthysse, Matthysse was already an aging boxer and he suffered a knee injury, Ugas is 35 years old but not showing a sign like what Mathhysse has shown, he will have a hard time with Ugas who is known to have a strong chin and can go toe to toe, although Pacquiao is a strong favorite we should not disregard Ugas, he can still pull out an upset.
In that fight, a lot of people voted for pacman as the favorite winner, but as you said anything can happen in the ring, I think pacman only wins in terms of experience compared to ugas, and actually there are many factors in favor of ugas to be able to beat pacman in the match later, because indeed he has been very active in training and competing so far and this is different from pacman who only does training preparations only a few weeks before the match starts, in my opinion, pacman will be very difficult to beat the ugas and maybe the ugas that will win later.
Even so I will still support pacman as my favorite boxer besides mike tyson Grin


Ugas is not so popular compare to Manny so the vote comes from the fans is expected to go to Pacquaio since he is one of the famous boxer in this Era, but we cannot underestimate Ugas we should remember that he's still a champion so even if he is underdog of this fight provably he can do unexpected things in the ring. So excited to watch their fight tomorrow and for sure the some parts of the world will stop since many will stay at home and watch this fight.

Manny Pacquiao is a more veteran boxer, and many favor him for his results and preparation, despite his age Ugas is a Cuban who at 35 is very hungry to win, if we take into account the boxer's preparation, I think they are Equal in skill, either of them is likely to win, Ugas's height can be used to his advantage, just as Mayweather did against Pacquiao in that long-awaited fight, I hope Ugas doesn't make it A purely technical fight so he doesn't turn into a boring fight. Lately the boxing that they have shown has sometimes gone to the technical level and it is difficult to follow a fight like that, since it was, as it happened in the Olympics, I miss the fights that were Tyson style, similar to the street fights that bring a lot of emotion.

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August 21, 2021, 03:24:43 PM
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I pull the trigger with Manny winning by decision days ago:

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And nothing has change, actually it's not 2.19, I have my bet boosted. So it seems people are more looking into Manny winning by KO or the fight not going to distance. But I will stick on bet, I'm seeing Ugas lasting full 12 rounds, but Manny winning by UD. Best of luck to all bettors.


Still good to bet on him at UD win, unfortunately, I haven't put my bet yet, my funds are stuck with other games, and I'm waiting for the outcome as the game has just started. If I won on that bet then definitely I still have time for him to double and put a good amount of money on Manny.

We have been discussing Manny's age, but lest we forget, Ugas is also at 35 years old, the age wherein majority of the boxers are showing wear and tear. His been a Olympian, so he started at a young age, just take note of that for those bettors.

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August 21, 2021, 04:06:15 PM
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I pull the trigger with Manny winning by decision days ago:

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And nothing has change, actually it's not 2.19, I have my bet boosted. So it seems people are more looking into Manny winning by KO or the fight not going to distance. But I will stick on bet, I'm seeing Ugas lasting full 12 rounds, but Manny winning by UD. Best of luck to all bettors.


Still good to bet on him at UD win, unfortunately, I haven't put my bet yet, my funds are stuck with other games, and I'm waiting for the outcome as the game has just started. If I won on that bet then definitely I still have time for him to double and put a good amount of money on Manny.

We have been discussing Manny's age, but lest we forget, Ugas is also at 35 years old, the age wherein majority of the boxers are showing wear and tear. His been a Olympian, so he started at a young age, just take note of that for those bettors.

Manny Pacquiao is more popular despite that fact that he is more aged. The age difference between the two boxers is round seven years but it may not matter much on the battle field. Experience does count in the game and may play a vital role today.
Also see the total fights by Manny Pacquiao is 71 fights while Yordenis Ugas has 30 fights only.

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