UK 20% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest part of the country

[fortunecrypto]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

[crzy]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

As long as there's a commercial buildings with a great surroundings and very feasible for the business, they'll build it regardless of your standard in life.
What's the level of poor in UK? because in my country, poor means no money at all so its useless if you are going to build casinos on a much poorer area, they wont grow and maybe it will be close in less than a year. 

[STT]

another explanation for the data we are seeing?

Data always has multiple explanations as to its interpretations.   The poorer people become the smaller size property they likely reside in, if Im stuck in the house all the time I'd consider going out to gamble at any venue a more reasonable distraction.   If I were a millionaire who built a perfectly air con palace with all the things I could ever want I'm far more likely to phone in the bet and watch it on my big screen.    I think thats quite reasonable, lots of drinking establishments near the poorest part of town I guess.   Quite often its more profitable to serve the many then the few.

[uneng]

I suspect it's simply due to the fact wealthiest zones are less populated, while poorer areas have more residents offering a more dynamic economical daily life. Businesses which rely on direct sales/direct interactions with the public in general aren't located in the richest areas of a country, but at the most popular ones. Also, as @Silberman mentioned, those areas are also more affordable for entrepeurners to run their businesses, because they offer cheaper properties for rent.

The news' goal is clear though: to say gambling industry is evil because they are getting money from the miserable instead of targeting the richest. What can't be proved at all. Personally I think casinos aren't fool to target people who don't have money to spend frequently. Of course they aim the big players, otherwise the industry wouldn't be profitable at all.

[ethereumhunter]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

As long as there's a commercial buildings with a great surroundings and very feasible for the business, they'll build it regardless of your standard in life.
What's the level of poor in UK? because in my country, poor means no money at all so its useless if you are going to build casinos on a much poorer area, they wont grow and maybe it will be close in less than a year. 

If in your country gambling is legal, the casino owner will not have a problem spending much money to build the casino in any commercial buildings because that means the casino can attract more richest people to visit their places. That means their product will be in front of their eyes and only need to give the best services to those richest people to get their money because when they satisfy with the casino, they will spend huge money on the casino. They build casinos in poorer areas because they want to rent a cheap building and modify it to attract the local gamblers.

[Sithara007]

Always it is the left-wing mouthpieces such as The Guardian which dishes out such propaganda articles. If the majority of the gambling joints are located in the poorest parts of the country, that also means that they are providing jobs to the poorest. This is what the left-wing does. They destroy the jobs of the poor people and then provoke them to riot against the government. Socialists doesn't want the poor to earn a living. Instead they want them to live off handouts from the government, so that they will be in a state of perpetual dependence.

Once these gambling joints are closed down, then the gamblers will just move to underground casinos. But for those who worked in these joints, there will be no alternative.

[mindrust]

I am not sure if the casino targets the poor to play gambling because they are hard to buy food, so why should they gamble? If that is for making money to buy food, I do not think they will have that chance since gambling depends on luck. But some people from that location can play gambling to test their luck but it is hard to win because the casino will not let that happen. I tend to think that renting those places will not be too expensive and maybe the casino wants to hide their place from the government, especially if their country prohibits gambling.

They do target the poor for that precise reason, they don't have food so they're tempted to gamble to see if their stars are aligned and hopefully they can make something out of it. Desperation is what makes them build their gambling house in the poor areas. It's not the case for the gambling houses, the government is in on those things, they want to tax the poor and this is the best way that they can do that.

Makes sense, if they can't get tax from poor people by legal ways, with this move, the government can still get money from them via getting tax from the casinos. I don't think casinos can hide from the government because it is an infrastructure that you can't miss. I am more of cheaper rent in this area. Aside from that, people in this kind of neighborhood like this business, because a lot of them will go to this place because a lot of them have no jobs, and they will try their luck here. Even though, we know winning is slippery in this game.

Might true but its totally dumb that poor people would really be making some shot on playing into these casinos.If this is truly the reason then its really effective because
it wouldnt really be that many on that place if they arent making money and if its the way on taxing out poor people then they would impose higher percentage that
they would get into the gambling house itself but well it isnt really that much of an issue since it wouldnt really be that a serious amount to be taken.

The whole world runs on the back of the poor people.

They eat mcdonalds, they drink coke, they gamble, they buy unnecessary crap, they use drugs, they smoke...

Seeing the pattern?

The rich and smart almost never do these things or do it a lot less. Almost all businesses abuse the poor people. Some of them (like casinos) do it plainly, the others do it quietly.

Monsanto, which manufactures GMO seeds is owned by Bayer, a pharmaceutical company. What does that tell you?

[xSkylarx]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

As long as there's a commercial buildings with a great surroundings and very feasible for the business, they'll build it regardless of your standard in life.
What's the level of poor in UK? because in my country, poor means no money at all so its useless if you are going to build casinos on a much poorer area, they wont grow and maybe it will be close in less than a year. 

Agreed, being poor means not being able to eat three times a day. Yes, it is extremely difficult to build a casino in a poorer area unless it is so big that people from other areas visit to it because the casino is nice and good. But if it's just like a small casino, it'll be fine. That's why there's a lot of illegal gambling in poorer areas; we can't see it, but they're still doing it because it's fun and they're trying their luck to win some money , the truth is also some kids are involved in it.

[aioc]

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

Casinos are open to anyone poor and rich who wants to enjoy playing, it's likely that they are located in the poorest part because it's convenient to their employees they are employing people and so are the industries that are attached to gambling so by making them accessible to poor area their employees can easily get in and they don't have to pay exorbitant rental fees.

“BGC members support 119,000 jobs,

“Betting shops alone employ around 46,000 people across the country, pay £1bn in tax to the Treasury as well as £60m in business rates for local councils, while casinos employ 11,000 staff and pay £500m a year in tax.

[slaman29]

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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

^ I think the cheaper rent, not the poor people were targeted by them. In the first place, how the poor people can able to survive in gambling through financial if they are really poor, it will surely they don't have money. It is because if you have a local currency especially in the third world country compared to the dollar, it has a big value when you are in a third world country. Probably on this topic that was the reason why they are in poor areas just because they know they will survive and long last from the rent. Nevertheless, we cant draw here an exact reason and purpose why they are in a poor country.

As I mentioned before, there is also a social aspect, though.

Like it or not, people from a lower economic/social class have less income, and less education, and lower paying jobs. It all trickles into logic. Lower education means lower awareness. Higher vulnerability to social problems also is scientifically known to be passed down generation to generation. A lower income person is more likely to be unaware of the dangers of gambling and therefore spend more to try and win big. Higher income people see gambling as entertainment, lower as a (wrong) means to get rich and out of their problems.

[michellee]

Agreed, being poor means not being able to eat three times a day. Yes, it is extremely difficult to build a casino in a poorer area unless it is so big that people from other areas visit to it because the casino is nice and good. But if it's just like a small casino, it'll be fine. That's why there's a lot of illegal gambling in poorer areas; we can't see it, but they're still doing it because it's fun and they're trying their luck to win some money , the truth is also some kids are involved in it.

Why being poor should be targeted by the casino that builds their place in the poor areas. Maybe they want to give an opportunity to people who lived in that place to work in the casino and if that is the case, that will really mean for those people because they can have a better life. But if that casino just wants to run from the government because it legally matters, that will not be good for the casino as the government will chase them everywhere they open their business.

[Betwrong]

Targeting the poor? maybe, but it could be why many gambling venues are located in poor areas because the number of poor people is more than the rich so it takes a lot of venues to accommodate those who love to gamble, or it could be the reason because of rental fees or the salaries of employees who also inexpensive.
I don't know about the UK, but is it possible because regulators in poor areas are corrupt officials and receive a lot of money from the gambling industry in their area? so there are many gambling venues there.

I agree and I would add this to what I said above. Indeed, there are much more poor than rich. Besides, rich folks don't usually hang around in their neighborhood. They are just jumping in the car and go to some fancy place to splash out more than we can imagine because they don't care, they don't need additional money, they don't know what to do with what they have. That's why they go to luxury casinos: to drink whiskey on the rocks and enjoy the atmosphere, which cheap gambling venues lack.

[madnessteat]

Poor people often have a rather low level of education both in the financial field and in such sciences as probability theory, game theory and mathematical expectation. This means that they may be more susceptible to gambling addiction than rich people. That's why I think the placement of gambling sites is concentrated in poorer areas.

[Lucasgabd]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

As long as there's a commercial buildings with a great surroundings and very feasible for the business, they'll build it regardless of your standard in life.
What's the level of poor in UK? because in my country, poor means no money at all so its useless if you are going to build casinos on a much poorer area, they wont grow and maybe it will be close in less than a year. 

Agreed, being poor means not being able to eat three times a day. Yes, it is extremely difficult to build a casino in a poorer area unless it is so big that people from other areas visit to it because the casino is nice and good. But if it's just like a small casino, it'll be fine. That's why there's a lot of illegal gambling in poorer areas; we can't see it, but they're still doing it because it's fun and they're trying their luck to win some money , the truth is also some kids are involved in it.

there are many degrees of poverty
from the ones who can't even buy food or pay rent, to those who have debt but still find a way to spend some small spare income in gambling

so it's useful to describe better what we are talking about as well
gambling could be a source of fun and excitement, probably better than drugs, but still... quite dangerous to go this way

[poldanmig]

The hope of being rich is the reason for the poor to gamble and of course the low education factor of course makes it difficult for them to get a job and coupled with the lack of job vacancies, make the poor people prefer gambling as an alternative to earn income, and of course the poor choose to gamble in football matches and playing the lottery every week, with the hope that he will win and earn a lot of money from the game, but gambling is still gambling and winning is a mystery in gambling.

[haidil]

I don't think they are targetting the poor people, here in our country our casinos are located in a commercial district and so are some of the casinos in other countries, I think it's cheaper to rent that place and could be that it's accessible and easy to get there, wealthy people prefer o gamble on physical casinos because they are more on meeting new people, they go to casinos not only to unwind but see their friends, partners and of course play with their friends, some wealthy businessman strikes a deal on this place.

As long as there's a commercial buildings with a great surroundings and very feasible for the business, they'll build it regardless of your standard in life.
What's the level of poor in UK? because in my country, poor means no money at all so its useless if you are going to build casinos on a much poorer area, they wont grow and maybe it will be close in less than a year. 

Agreed, being poor means not being able to eat three times a day. Yes, it is extremely difficult to build a casino in a poorer area unless it is so big that people from other areas visit to it because the casino is nice and good. But if it's just like a small casino, it'll be fine. That's why there's a lot of illegal gambling in poorer areas; we can't see it, but they're still doing it because it's fun and they're trying their luck to win some money , the truth is also some kids are involved in it.

Does this mean that children are also not banned from watching gambling? I hope it won't be that free if a region establishes a gambling casino, then arbitrarily allows children to visit the casino freely. Kasiono is better kept away from those who are not right for them to consume in their brains. Maybe some casinos don't allow this to happen, there are still guards who know which visitors they should prevent from getting inside.

[maju69]

I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

I don't read much about the stats but I know that UK indeed has a high rank in terms of gambling industry. Many people on UK was doing gambling so maybe the area is just strategic for gamblers besides on the point you mention above. UK has a lot of gambler residents so you can have a lot of customer wherever you put the casino location or maybe Casino was already established on that area before poor people live around it.

The UK has some of the most liberal laws when it comes to gambling around the world and while I do not think this is causing addiction at the same time we need to recognize that if you are more exposed to a certain activity then the more likely that you are going to eventually try it and you are not going to see anything wrong with it, so I can understand why there are some voices there which want to more strictly regulate gambling in order to decrease gambling addictions.

Talking about gambling addiction, it's still an individual thing and goes back to their respective gambling arrangements, so as you said it's true because the UK is more free in terms of gambling and placement without the casino house being established. Without focusing too much on the impact I'm sure they've come to terms with how they can control casinos, and don't care if they're addicted or not.

[just_Alice]

Cheaper rent sounds like a better argument to me. Why would casinos specifically target poor people? Is the fact that poor people desperately seek ways to earn money serves as such a strong incentive to locate most of the casinos nearby?

I think even considering that it would be irrational. The poor don’t have much to give to casinos in the first place.

[RealMalatesta]

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

I guess that we are talking about something very sad and we are definitely not going to see any change neither. The poorer a community is the bigger chance that they gave up on thinking they could work hard to make money.

There are people all around the world that work hard, miners (non-crypto), garbage people, firefighters and many other physically hard working class as well basically all blue collars and they still end up not being profitable at all and end up poor, and that is the sad thing about the current world, papa Bezos gives Jeff a million dollars, then gets him to meet with other millionaire friends and he just sells books and becomes richest person on earth while the guy who cleans out trash from a whole neighborhood every single day lives in poverty.

[Jating]

As I mentioned before, there is also a social aspect, though.

Like it or not, people from a lower economic/social class have less income, and less education, and lower paying jobs. It all trickles into logic. Lower education means lower awareness. Higher vulnerability to social problems also is scientifically known to be passed down generation to generation. A lower income person is more likely to be unaware of the dangers of gambling and therefore spend more to try and win big. Higher income people see gambling as entertainment, lower as a (wrong) means to get rich and out of their problems.

What do you mean by hereditary? social problem? I'm not too sure about that?
Poverty has never been passed down to the next generation, even education has different domains so that it cannot be generalized into one generation. For example, my parents earn from being a farmer, and I don't necessarily have a farm income myself, I have income from crypto, is it passed down from generation to generation? Gambling is a double-edged sword, it can be an alternative to giving wealth, it can also make everyone lose everything. either the rich or the poor.

Perhaps that's what he meant, if you are born poor, then you can past it to your kids, unless your children really works hard and uplift their life, it's because of the influence. He might be not be generalizating it, but maybe for some it's pretty obvious.

Yeah, I agree that it's a double edge sword, but remember that the odds are against us in gambling and only those who are lucky can get out of poverty because of gambling.