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It's okay, there's still a month for the announcement once everything they have to set has been already set. With all of the news and rumors about the possible date. Then that would be by December and there's still enough time for them to market the match and for sure that it will be easier for them. Because there are a lot of fans that are waiting to watch some good boxing matches and this match of Nonito is included and worth the wait.
Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November. There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match.
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October 30, 2021, 08:46:47 PM |
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It's okay, there's still a month for the announcement once everything they have to set has been already set. With all of the news and rumors about the possible date. Then that would be by December and there's still enough time for them to market the match and for sure that it will be easier for them. Because there are a lot of fans that are waiting to watch some good boxing matches and this match of Nonito is included and worth the wait.
Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November. There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match. When it comes to marketing their fight then i dont see any more action would be needed just for them to market out their upcoming fight because fans or boxing enthusiast will just simply watch out this fight on the schedule given but although i do agree on adding up some spice if they do really want up to maximize potential revenue. We cant really make out any conclusions though because we cant really tell on whats the level of interest for the public to show off with this upcoming fight. Yes, one of them is popular but turns out that people are still eyeing on possible fights that Inoue will really be having on.
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October 30, 2021, 08:57:55 PM |
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It's okay, there's still a month for the announcement once everything they have to set has been already set. With all of the news and rumors about the possible date. Then that would be by December and there's still enough time for them to market the match and for sure that it will be easier for them. Because there are a lot of fans that are waiting to watch some good boxing matches and this match of Nonito is included and worth the wait.
Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November. There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match. When it comes to marketing their fight then i dont see any more action would be needed just for them to market out their upcoming fight because fans or boxing enthusiast will just simply watch out this fight on the schedule given but although i do agree on adding up some spice if they do really want up to maximize potential revenue. We cant really make out any conclusions though because we cant really tell on whats the level of interest for the public to show off with this upcoming fight. Yes, one of them is popular but turns out that people are still eyeing on possible fights that Inoue will really be having on. This isn't the biggest fight of Donaire, so I don't expect a lot of fans to come and see the fight. Filipino boxers fighting each other, mostly the fans are Filipinos only, so it's just a small crowd IMO. However, if Donaire wins this fight and there will be a rematch against Inoue, then for sure people will be excited to watch and PPV will generate more revenue.
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This isn't the biggest fight of Donaire, so I don't expect a lot of fans to come and see the fight. Filipino boxers fighting each other, mostly the fans are Filipinos only, so it's just a small crowd IMO. However, if Donaire wins this fight and there will be a rematch against Inoue, then for sure people will be excited to watch and PPV will generate more revenue.
That rematch is surely gain interest from the fans, or also, a possibility that if Casimero will dominates his own mandatory fight, they can also take this one and settle the date of a potential deal between this two pinoy champs who are making their name up from this sport, whoever wins will take Inoue's attention and a possible deal from the Monster camp. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) For now, fans will not be that huge. Donaire is no longer in his prime in where fans all over the world are also eyeing with him, unlike with Pacquiao, who really magnetizes the attention of the crowd. Though it was a loss, and Manny already hung his gloves. Hopefully that won't be the case for Donaire, not yet. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 30, 2021, 09:45:43 PM |
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This isn't the biggest fight of Donaire, so I don't expect a lot of fans to come and see the fight. Filipino boxers fighting each other, mostly the fans are Filipinos only, so it's just a small crowd IMO. However, if Donaire wins this fight and there will be a rematch against Inoue, then for sure people will be excited to watch and PPV will generate more revenue.
That rematch is surely gain interest from the fans, or also, a possibility that if Casimero will dominates his own mandatory fight, they can also take this one and settle the date of a potential deal between this two pinoy champs who are making their name up from this sport, whoever wins will take Inoue's attention and a possible deal from the Monster camp. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) For now, fans will not be that huge. Donaire is no longer in his prime in where fans all over the world are also eyeing with him, unlike with Pacquiao, who really magnetizes the attention of the crowd. Though it was a loss, and Manny already hung his gloves. Hopefully that won't be the case for Donaire, not yet. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That's another great idea too, Casimero vs Donaire first then the winner will take Inoue, that way Inoue will face the best Filipino fighter. If Donaire wins against Casimero, IMO that's not too exciting since Inoue already beat Donaire, however, if it's Casimero then probably it will gain the fans' attention as Casimero trash-talked Inoue a lot and they want to see if Inoue can really handle Casimero and proved to be the best in the bantam weight division.
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This isn't the biggest fight of Donaire, so I don't expect a lot of fans to come and see the fight. Filipino boxers fighting each other, mostly the fans are Filipinos only, so it's just a small crowd IMO. However, if Donaire wins this fight and there will be a rematch against Inoue, then for sure people will be excited to watch and PPV will generate more revenue.
That rematch is surely gain interest from the fans, or also, a possibility that if Casimero will dominates his own mandatory fight, they can also take this one and settle the date of a potential deal between this two pinoy champs who are making their name up from this sport, whoever wins will take Inoue's attention and a possible deal from the Monster camp. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) For now, fans will not be that huge. Donaire is no longer in his prime in where fans all over the world are also eyeing with him, unlike with Pacquiao, who really magnetizes the attention of the crowd. Though it was a loss, and Manny already hung his gloves. Hopefully that won't be the case for Donaire, not yet. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That's another great idea too, Casimero vs Donaire first then the winner will take Inoue, that way Inoue will face the best Filipino fighter. If Donaire wins against Casimero, IMO that's not too exciting since Inoue already beat Donaire, however, if it's Casimero then probably it will gain the fans' attention as Casimero trash-talked Inoue a lot and they want to see if Inoue can really handle Casimero and proved to be the best in the bantam weight division. For me it's better if Inoue can face both Filipinos, just like Pacquiao-Barrera-Morales back then (Marquez later). It will be more fun and hopefully we will not only see one fight, but rematches regardless of the outcome of the fight. So that this boxers can have a good payday too. Maybe this can happen in 2022 specially if Donaire and Casimero will beat their mandatory in December.
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October 31, 2021, 07:02:52 AM |
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If Donaire wins against Casimero, IMO that's not too exciting since Inoue already beat Donaire, however, if it's Casimero then probably it will gain the fans' attention as Casimero trash-talked Inoue a lot and they want to see if Inoue can really handle Casimero and proved to be the best in the bantam weight division.
I agree, its not exciting if Donaire will fight Inoue, though its his chance to avenge himself. I prefer Casimero vs Inoue, its more exciting and something new plus unpredictable. Because I like the attitude of Casimero being too confident but not the way he trash talk other boxers. Thus if given a chance I'd to like to see Casimero fight Donaire first before moving to the next level with Inoue.
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October 31, 2021, 12:43:03 PM |
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If Donaire wins against Casimero, IMO that's not too exciting since Inoue already beat Donaire, however, if it's Casimero then probably it will gain the fans' attention as Casimero trash-talked Inoue a lot and they want to see if Inoue can really handle Casimero and proved to be the best in the bantam weight division.
I agree, its not exciting if Donaire will fight Inoue, though its his chance to avenge himself. I prefer Casimero vs Inoue, its more exciting and something new plus unpredictable. Because I like the attitude of Casimero being too confident but not the way he trash talk other boxers. Thus if given a chance I'd to like to see Casimero fight Donaire first before moving to the next level with Inoue. Things could go right with Casimero if he fought Inoue who is undefeated. Maybe we will see the same scenario of what happened in the fight of Sultan vs Caraballo where the aggressiveness and timing of Sultan is just at the right place. Caraballo with 14 wins and all 14 are in KO was nothing compared to Sultan's power and eagerness to win, I see the attitude of Casimero in him, though not in a trash-talking way.
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I don't know why you all saying Casimero vs Inoue is interesting rather than Donaire vs Inoue rematch. A rematch will be more interesting since their last fight was close, even though the judges score it one-sided for Inoue. I'd like to see a revenge rather a new challenger. Maybe we will see the same scenario of what happened in the fight of Sultan vs Caraballo where the aggressiveness and timing of Sultan is just at the right place. Caraballo with 14 wins and all 14 are in KO was nothing compared to Sultan's power and eagerness to win, I see the attitude of Casimero in him, though not in a trash-talking way.
That's not fair comparison, Caraballo fought amateur boxer while Inoue fought many top boxer. Comparing Inoue's record, his opponents, and his skills... he deserved to become the best boxer in his weights.
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October 31, 2021, 07:34:43 PM |
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There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match.
When it comes to marketing their fight then i dont see any more action would be needed just for them to market out their upcoming fight because fans or boxing enthusiast will just simply watch out this fight on the schedule given but although i do agree on adding up some spice if they do really want up to maximize potential revenue. We cant really make out any conclusions though because we cant really tell on whats the level of interest for the public to show off with this upcoming fight. Yes, one of them is popular but turns out that people are still eyeing on possible fights that Inoue will really be having on. It's normal for promoters to still market their matches despite being known to the fans. I think they want to be sure at every point of the business they're in. That's why for most of them, they have to make sure that they've advertised and promoted the match before the day of the match comes. About Inoue, it could also be Donaire that he'll box soon. So we have to wait who goes first between him and Casimero.
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October 31, 2021, 07:35:10 PM |
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Donaire, who turns 39 on November 16, and I don't think he's too old and he has a lot of experience in boxing which I think will be fine with his age and he will retain his WBC bantamweight championship mandate against Reymart Gaballo later. although Reymart Gaballo is younger than Donaire and also unbeaten but does not guarantee victory for him, many boxers who are not young anymore but still play well and win than the younger ones because experience will mean more than anything.
Donaire is a great fighter we all know that, however what worries me is that age can affect a fighter relatively quickly, in one fight they look as if they are still their younger versions and then a few months later they look as if they got old in a hurry and aged 10 years during a few months, and this can only be avoided through massive training and dedication, and even then it comes to a point in which not even that is enough to reverse the aging process.
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October 31, 2021, 09:35:57 PM |
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Donaire, who turns 39 on November 16, and I don't think he's too old and he has a lot of experience in boxing which I think will be fine with his age and he will retain his WBC bantamweight championship mandate against Reymart Gaballo later. although Reymart Gaballo is younger than Donaire and also unbeaten but does not guarantee victory for him, many boxers who are not young anymore but still play well and win than the younger ones because experience will mean more than anything.
Donaire is a great fighter we all know that, however what worries me is that age can affect a fighter relatively quickly, in one fight they look as if they are still their younger versions and then a few months later they look as if they got old in a hurry and aged 10 years during a few months, and this can only be avoided through massive training and dedication, and even then it comes to a point in which not even that is enough to reverse the aging process. It's not one year yet since the last time he KO his opponent and he said he is back, it would be too shameful for him to say that the king is back but after this, he will exit and make a retirement because he lose to a younger fighter. No, I don't think that's gonna happen, Donaire will try to win this as this is just a mandatory fight for him, his bigger goal is to have a rematch with Inoue where a good amount of money is waiting for his retirement.
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November 01, 2021, 08:43:56 AM |
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I don't know why you all saying Casimero vs Inoue is interesting rather than Donaire vs Inoue rematch. A rematch will be more interesting since their last fight was close, even though the judges score it one-sided for Inoue. I'd like to see a revenge rather a new challenger.
Wed definitely have our own taste of a good fight, their fight for me is not close as Inoue won via unanimous decision, Donaire gas out in the end because he lacks stamina while Inoue has a strong chin that he cannot take down. If only the fight resulted in a controversial decision, I might be inserted in a rematch rather than seeing an Inoue vs Casimero fight. Maybe we will see the same scenario of what happened in the fight of Sultan vs Caraballo where the aggressiveness and timing of Sultan is just at the right place. Caraballo with 14 wins and all 14 are in KO was nothing compared to Sultan's power and eagerness to win, I see the attitude of Casimero in him, though not in a trash-talking way.
That's not fair comparison, Caraballo fought amateur boxer while Inoue fought many top boxer. Comparing Inoue's record, his opponents, and his skills... he deserved to become the best boxer in his weights. That's my personal view only as even a champion with the undefeated record is not guaranteed to win all the time, what if Casimero is his Kryptonite?
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November 01, 2021, 10:46:42 AM |
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Donaire, who turns 39 on November 16, and I don't think he's too old and he has a lot of experience in boxing which I think will be fine with his age and he will retain his WBC bantamweight championship mandate against Reymart Gaballo later. although Reymart Gaballo is younger than Donaire and also unbeaten but does not guarantee victory for him, many boxers who are not young anymore but still play well and win than the younger ones because experience will mean more than anything.
Donaire is a great fighter we all know that, however what worries me is that age can affect a fighter relatively quickly, in one fight they look as if they are still their younger versions and then a few months later they look as if they got old in a hurry and aged 10 years during a few months, and this can only be avoided through massive training and dedication, and even then it comes to a point in which not even that is enough to reverse the aging process. Yes, as what they say, boxers are good up only in their last fight. So maybe Donaire will become old and age overnight as he fight Gaballo. No one can beat Father Time, not even the great Manny Pacquiao. The positive thing though is that it will still be a Filipino who will carry the flag in the bantamweight if ever he losses to Raymart. And now that we have another Filipino in the horizon, Jonas Sultan. But the biggest price for all this Filipino champion is still Inoue and so they have to beat them.
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Donaire, who turns 39 on November 16, and I don't think he's too old and he has a lot of experience in boxing which I think will be fine with his age and he will retain his WBC bantamweight championship mandate against Reymart Gaballo later. although Reymart Gaballo is younger than Donaire and also unbeaten but does not guarantee victory for him, many boxers who are not young anymore but still play well and win than the younger ones because experience will mean more than anything.
Donaire is a great fighter we all know that, however what worries me is that age can affect a fighter relatively quickly, in one fight they look as if they are still their younger versions and then a few months later they look as if they got old in a hurry and aged 10 years during a few months, and this can only be avoided through massive training and dedication, and even then it comes to a point in which not even that is enough to reverse the aging process. Yes, as what they say, boxers are good up only in their last fight. So maybe Donaire will become old and age overnight as he fight Gaballo. No one can beat Father Time, not even the great Manny Pacquiao. The positive thing though is that it will still be a Filipino who will carry the flag in the bantamweight if ever he losses to Raymart. And now that we have another Filipino in the horizon, Jonas Sultan. But the biggest price for all this Filipino champion is still Inoue and so they have to beat them. That's really a positive thing but Donaire is not in his 40's yet, he may be old in numbers but his stamina is still there and he can fight toe to toe against a younger fighter. Donaire's goal is to win all the belts in his division now, in order to make it happen, he needs to beat his mandatory challenger so the next stop would be either Casimero or Inoue.
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November 01, 2021, 12:14:08 PM |
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Donaire, who turns 39 on November 16, and I don't think he's too old and he has a lot of experience in boxing which I think will be fine with his age and he will retain his WBC bantamweight championship mandate against Reymart Gaballo later. although Reymart Gaballo is younger than Donaire and also unbeaten but does not guarantee victory for him, many boxers who are not young anymore but still play well and win than the younger ones because experience will mean more than anything.
Donaire is a great fighter we all know that, however what worries me is that age can affect a fighter relatively quickly, in one fight they look as if they are still their younger versions and then a few months later they look as if they got old in a hurry and aged 10 years during a few months, and this can only be avoided through massive training and dedication, and even then it comes to a point in which not even that is enough to reverse the aging process. Yes, as what they say, boxers are good up only in their last fight. So maybe Donaire will become old and age overnight as he fight Gaballo. No one can beat Father Time, not even the great Manny Pacquiao. The positive thing though is that it will still be a Filipino who will carry the flag in the bantamweight if ever he losses to Raymart. And now that we have another Filipino in the horizon, Jonas Sultan. But the biggest price for all this Filipino champion is still Inoue and so they have to beat them. That's really a positive thing but Donaire is not in his 40's yet, he may be old in numbers but his stamina is still there and he can fight toe to toe against a younger fighter. Donaire's goal is to win all the belts in his division now, in order to make it happen, he needs to beat his mandatory challenger so the next stop would be either Casimero or Inoue. We have seen several upsets lately in this sports. So we can't ignore the possibility here. Though Donaire has the edge in terms of skills or experience, but he is fighting a younger boxer. And both are Filipinos, so they may understand each other's style easily. Now, the preparation, training and techniques may vary from both camps. We will see how far can Donaire will be fighting inside the ring. Will there be a chance to fight with Inoue again in the future?
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For this said maybe that it is but I'm sure Casimero did trashtalk Donaire before is for the sake of promotion only but anyways maybe we cannot possibly the fight of Donaire and Casimero but atleast we can see one of them fighting Inoue since its really interesting to see if Donaire could revenge of his past lose to him or Casimero could bring the win and take down the Japanese monster.
Trashtalk is indeed part of marketing yourself but it shouldnt really be already exaggerated on where it comes to a point that it is already touching personal ones which i cant really blame off if Donaire had really made out some reactions to that which did really in result on cancelation or postponement of the fight.It is true that it wont matter on who would be the one would fight against Inoue neither Casimero or Donaire as long they would end up on the results we are really hoping to see. I also agree with that and what happen on the fued between Casimero and Donaire is something more personal that's why they go far and this is the reason why their fight didn't happen since its really disrespectful in the part of Donaire. But anyways for sure we can them hang up and maybe the fight between them will be discuss after Nonito and Casimero will win both of their fight but for now they should focus in their assignments and finish this taking home the win. Personal or stage? I don't know if it's personal, why would Donaire's camp help Casimero to join with the Probellum promotions which are also Donaire's promoter? There are some questions that are hard to answer but we know in this world of business, not everything they show is real, but one thing I'm certain, they are doing it for money. That turn of events are really suspicious but let's just move on and don't expect fight between Casimero and Donaire for now since they are already working under one management and its too impossible for them to fight each other. That trash talk thing are already part of the past, and it can always happen on any matches. Donaire and Gaballo are the next big thing, hopefully they can schedule it before the year end. Maybe the decision has been made due to the conflict happened currently with Casimero's management and Donaire's camp had better offer that's why Casimero join them, its also a win-win situation to Casimero knowing that he get a unfair treatment on his past management that's why we see him change his path. But anyways hope to see a better picture unto this and maybe as turn of events maybe we cannot see the fight of Casimero vs Donaire even if the Filipino flash win against Gaballo.
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Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November.
For Donaire, there's enough time for practice and actually, he is practicing the whole year-round. Donaire fights this year and just a few months later, he is supposed to battle with John Riel Casimero so prior to the cancelation of their fight, he is already doing some training for it. Gaballo on the other hand is surely surprised and might have a few months for practice. I'm sure even with no scheduled fight after his last fight in December 2020, he still does his usual exercise to keep his shape and just began his advanced training when there's a hint that he might fight Donaire.
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It's okay, there's still a month for the announcement once everything they have to set has been already set. With all of the news and rumors about the possible date. Then that would be by December and there's still enough time for them to market the match and for sure that it will be easier for them. Because there are a lot of fans that are waiting to watch some good boxing matches and this match of Nonito is included and worth the wait.
Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November. There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match. I agree there. Their training already started even way back the announcement was made. They know early in advance the news before us of course. Regardless, we should now see some formal announcements regarding the fight. If the fight will set at December 11 as I read here, it's now time to release some information this week up to next week.
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It's okay, there's still a month for the announcement once everything they have to set has been already set. With all of the news and rumors about the possible date. Then that would be by December and there's still enough time for them to market the match and for sure that it will be easier for them. Because there are a lot of fans that are waiting to watch some good boxing matches and this match of Nonito is included and worth the wait.
Not enough time if they'll fight in December, I mean how about the advertising of the fight? They will have to train for the fight, and that would likely require them for over a month to be very fit, so there's a little time left as in the next 2 days, it will already be November. There's still the month of November for the whole advertising for their match if it will happen by December. I think they have it all set and they can do all of it within a month. There's still ample time for them to manage the advertisement if it's needed to happen. As for the training, I'm sure that they're already training themselves upon happening to know that they'll have a match. I agree there. Their training already started even way back the announcement was made. They know early in advance the news before us of course. Regardless, we should now see some formal announcements regarding the fight. If the fight will set at December 11 as I read here, it's now time to release some information this week up to next week. Fighter will be a fighter and training with or without a fight is a natural routine so expect that they are prepared on this since for sure they are speculating that there will be un upcoming fight for them in future and since the discussion is already made then the last thing they need to do is to have a schedule since if they have a proper set date towards this event for sure many people would make a noise about this on medias. December is a good month to cast this so lets hope about this to be done by their management.
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