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October 13, 2021, 06:22:59 AM
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Yes he is often delayed on payments but still managed to pay those people involved. But because of these issues about his casino (and campaigns here), I think its better to refrain from playing for a while until the issue about withdrawal is resolved. I agree that he should entrust someone to act on his behalf (for his 2 casinos) if he is not around. This way misunderstanding and queries can be answered.

I still have 6 to 8 weeks of payment, in the past I never lose hope but after this second month of the campaign and he is not posting anything I figure something is unusual, because he posts and guaranty payment even if it takes a week more before payment, I'm losing trust because he logs in and he never posted anything, there's a betrayal of trust here, we trust that we get paid and he cannot give us even a word of assurance.

The latest update is he'll process pending payment within 48 hours hopefully all doubts will be clear and Lightlord reputation will be cleared
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October 13, 2021, 07:18:23 AM
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Yes he is often delayed on payments but still managed to pay those people involved. But because of these issues about his casino (and campaigns here), I think its better to refrain from playing for a while until the issue about withdrawal is resolved. I agree that he should entrust someone to act on his behalf (for his 2 casinos) if he is not around. This way misunderstanding and queries can be answered.

I still have 6 to 8 weeks of payment, in the past I never lose hope but after this second month of the campaign and he is not posting anything I figure something is unusual, because he posts and guaranty payment even if it takes a week more before payment, I'm losing trust because he logs in and he never posted anything, there's a betrayal of trust here, we trust that we get paid and he cannot give us even a word of assurance.

The latest update is he'll process pending payment within 48 hours hopefully all doubts will be clear and Lightlord reputation will be cleared
In their both thread, @lightlord update the news that he will pay no later than 48 hours from this post.

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

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October 13, 2021, 08:41:23 AM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

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October 13, 2021, 02:01:37 PM
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surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.


I'm sure they will have a discussion of escrow and duration of payout, Boss knows how to run a good campaign and he wants the two campaigns to continue, he will likely ask for escrow and weekly payout I might go back to them if my current campaign is over but I like my current campaign to have more extensions the payment here is pretty good hopefully it will.

I hope things will go well on Bitvest and 777Coin.
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October 13, 2021, 11:45:24 PM
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A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

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October 13, 2021, 11:49:49 PM
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I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.
Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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October 14, 2021, 12:36:18 AM
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Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

I'm sure he will address this issue, he promised payment to bounty hunters he'll also address the hot wallet, the two casinos are his two main sources of income, the promotion is useless if there are issues on these two casinos if he will address the issue of bounty campaign, he'll address the hot wallet as well in fact it should come first.
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October 14, 2021, 01:50:12 AM
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surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.


I'm sure they will have a discussion of escrow and duration of payout, Boss knows how to run a good campaign and he wants the two campaigns to continue, he will likely ask for escrow and weekly payout I might go back to them if my current campaign is over but I like my current campaign to have more extensions the payment here is pretty good hopefully it will.

I hope things will go well on Bitvest and 777Coin.
this is the recent update of lightlord towards this issue of escrowing the funds for the campaign participants

I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward

so I am thinking that everything will be doing smooth again and will go back when those campaign started handling by lutpin as the manager and escrow .

if this will happen then another years will run for these 2 signature .

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October 14, 2021, 03:29:24 AM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.
So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.
Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

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October 14, 2021, 06:15:11 AM
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A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

How does a site not having any promos have anything to do with their legitimacy? Just wondering.

But yeah it's a fair point. Not having a filled up hot wallet and having lots of people complain about withdrawals and having no communication whatsoever to the public is very fishy.

I wouldn't play on their but I wouldn't call them a scam just yet.

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October 14, 2021, 07:10:12 AM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

He has said about the payment issues and yes for future he need to have escrow services to ensure manager have funds with them for payment processing ASAP.But still the members are awaiting payment from past 10 weeks and that needs to be paid to them for the work they have done.So wait for the time.

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October 14, 2021, 08:20:34 AM
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A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.
It is not just about paying, it is not about bonus neither, it is about him being this late each time and then paying a bonus to make it look like it is fine. First of all they are already paying less than almost any place, I do not want to say lowest because maybe there is any lower that I do not know about, but I have never seen any lower before. On top of that they keep the money for 2 months and then they end up saying they will pay with bonus.

What did he do, gambled with it himself? Invested it? Made profit from what he should have paid 2 months ago and now putting it back with some profit on his pocket? We have no idea what he did.

If you are not paying on time, it is fine for the first few times after you pay, but if you are doing it all the time then it sounds like there could be a problem that will not be fixed, how do you know he will not be AWOL again for 2 months?
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October 14, 2021, 09:04:57 AM
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It is not just about paying, it is not about bonus neither, it is about him being this late each time and then paying a bonus to make it look like it is fine. First of all they are already paying less than almost any place, I do not want to say lowest because maybe there is any lower that I do not know about, but I have never seen any lower before. On top of that they keep the money for 2 months and then they end up saying they will pay with bonus.



You have a point but members are joining because it's paying Bitcoin, they are joining because there are no open slots in other campaigns, they are joining because they want a long campaign they don't want to hop from one campaign to another, other reasons they are preparing themselves for big campaigns.

It all goes down to many people wanting to join a campaign that pays Bitcoin but there's not enough campaign in the service section that pays that's much better than Bitvest and 777Coin, whatever rules Lightlord set up, participants follow.
it's time for Lightlord to show consideration by doing a weekly payout.

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October 14, 2021, 10:36:00 AM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.
So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.
Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.
but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

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October 14, 2021, 10:56:39 AM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.
So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.
Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.
but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

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October 14, 2021, 11:58:17 AM
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A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

Your title is very misleading and it spreads FUD. Where are your evidences that bitvest is indeed a scam? Do you have any proof that they really deceived and scammed you? In what way? Did they steal anything from you? Did your account lose money? You see, the terms of service of every platform changes without prior notice. Maybe you had a violation that cause your account to be banned by the moderators. If they weren't able to detect unusual activities from your account, why would they waste their time on you? Are you the only user accessing and playing it to the point they would invest so much time and attention to you?

I suggest, instead of complaining here without dropping evidences, you gather it and show it here so that we can give more appropriate advices to you. It would really be hard to talk and badmouth bitvest without counter checking whether what you stated are true. In fact, what you have written were just merely rants because it has no supporting documents.
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October 14, 2021, 04:37:46 PM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.
So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.
Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.
but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

I believe he has a reason for it. That campaign is a long time ago. That is the only campaign that has lasted this long and continues to amaze me. But, yes, this delay is inconvenient because you are working and not being paid. I'm hoping it'll be resolved soon. However, it is still up to the participant to decide whether or not to continue with the campaign. But for me its time to leave if ever you really in need of money .
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October 14, 2021, 05:56:12 PM
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Probably there's a reason for all of that? Bitvest is one of the most known gambling site here, probably you should post some proofs, screenshots and other evidences rather than just ranting here since we don't understand you at all but if you believed that they scam you the scam accusation section is always open for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

You realise the avatar you have on right now at this moment, you are advertising for a known scammer? Yet you still choose to advertise for them. I wonder if you even believe your own writing on this forums.... Roll Eyes

Anyway, I wouldn't take advice on who to trust from people who willingly choose to support known scammers and liars. Although I do agree that anyone who wants to check out a project or website should do so in the scam accusation thread as well as at least a google search...

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October 14, 2021, 06:40:02 PM
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I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.
So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.
surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.
Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.
but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

I believe he has a reason for it. That campaign is a long time ago. That is the only campaign that has lasted this long and continues to amaze me. But, yes, this delay is inconvenient because you are working and not being paid. I'm hoping it'll be resolved soon. However, it is still up to the participant to decide whether or not to continue with the campaign. But for me its time to leave if ever you really in need of money .

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

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October 14, 2021, 07:01:44 PM
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Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.
You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.
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