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October 08, 2021, 06:42:15 PM
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And the winner is? (probably Messi)




If you don't know them by their name you can click the image

Full list of players

Cesar Azpilicueta,
Nicolo Barella,
Karim Benzema,
Leonard Bonucci,
Kevin De Bruyne,
Giorgio Chiellini,
Cristiano Ronaldo,
Ruben Dias,
Gianluigi Donnarumma,
Bruno Fernandes,
Phil Foden,
Erling Haaland,
Harry Kane,
Jorginho,
N'Golo Kante,
Simon Kjaer,
Robert Lewandowski,
Romelu Lukaku,
Riyad Mahrez,
Lautaro Martinez,
Kylian Mbappe,
Lionel Messi,
Luka Modric,
Gerard Moreno,
Mason Mount,
Neymar, Pedri,
Mohamed Salah,
Raheem Sterling,
Luis Suarez.

Source: https://www.football.london/premier-league/ballon-dor-ronaldo-messi-kane-21808172





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October 09, 2021, 07:00:36 AM
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here is also a very nice list of candidates for this year's ballon d'or award.
for the ballon d'or award alone, 5 italians, 4 english and 3 spanish and french are nominated
in addition, the trophée kopa is awarded to the best youngest player and the trophée yachine to the best goalkeeper
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ballon-dor-lewandowski-amp-haaland-nominated-bellingham-amp-reyna-among-top-talents/view/news/393854

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October 09, 2021, 10:09:15 AM
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And the winner is? (probably Messi)




If you don't know them by their name you can click the image

Full list of players

Cesar Azpilicueta,
Nicolo Barella,
Karim Benzema,
Leonard Bonucci,
Kevin De Bruyne,
Giorgio Chiellini,
Cristiano Ronaldo,
Ruben Dias,
Gianluigi Donnarumma,
Bruno Fernandes,
Phil Foden,
Erling Haaland,
Harry Kane,
Jorginho,
N'Golo Kante,
Simon Kjaer,
Robert Lewandowski,
Romelu Lukaku,
Riyad Mahrez,
Lautaro Martinez,
Kylian Mbappe,
Lionel Messi,
Luka Modric,
Gerard Moreno,
Mason Mount,
Neymar, Pedri,
Mohamed Salah,
Raheem Sterling,
Luis Suarez.

Source: https://www.football.london/premier-league/ballon-dor-ronaldo-messi-kane-21808172


I think you had a auto correct moment and you meant to write the winner is Cristanio Ronaldo, what has *Messi done to win it this year?. Also it’ll be interesting if someone else wins it, because their era is definitely on the end but will they get to win it one last time fingers crossed in excitement.

*Messi is one the best, but I’m a Ronaldo fan.
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October 09, 2021, 12:29:08 PM
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I think you had a auto correct moment and you meant to write the winner is Cristanio Ronaldo, what has *Messi done to win it this year?. Also it’ll be interesting if someone else wins it, because their era is definitely on the end but will they get to win it one last time fingers crossed in excitement.

*Messi is one the best, but I’m a Ronaldo fan.

Nope.
This is what the media are already saying, Messi is the favorite.
He only won the South Amrica cup.

If we need to watch trophies the winner must be Jorghino, winning the UCL with Chelsea, Best FIFA player award for Euro 2020 (played this summer) and winner of Euro 2021 with Italy.

The winner should be Lewandowskior Jorginho but IMHO and according to media Messi will win.


The question is why?
The answer can be easy, the owner of PSG is a middleman from Qatar state, the world cup will in in Qatar organized by the same REAL owner of PSG, the TV copyright will be a surprise surprises held by the same owner.

It will be a marketing bust if Messi will win.




Same thing happened on 2018, why Modric won the ballon d'or while Cristiano Ronaldo got probably one of his best year with 15-16 goals in CL?

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October 09, 2021, 02:00:23 PM
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Same thing happened on 2018, why Modric won the ballon d'or while Cristiano Ronaldo got probably one of his best year with 15-16 goals in CL?

Maybe because he is one of the standard and best players of Real Madrid, and in addition, Croatia played in the finals of the World Cup that year with a string of victories against Argentina, Denmark, Russia, England - all of which are respectable opponents, and Luka Modric was one of the best players on the team - but he was also named tournament's best player. I think he deserved the award, even though Ronaldo is one of the best players in the world, there is no doubt about that.

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October 09, 2021, 06:45:26 PM
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Actually, I still don't know the classification of which player deserves the Ballon d'Or when talking about the championship title, of course I think Messi is no longer one of the players who will win this title, and neither is Ronaldo because these two goats are very minimal in the trophy last season.
but when the current media say that messi is still very suitable, maybe it can happen and if that's the case, ronaldo still has the same chance considering his performance is still impressive.
but there is a little thing that bothers me it could be not these two people, when talking about performance last season I was actually impressed by Kante's game at chelsea which indeed his performance managed to mess up the opponent's defense in some crucial matches such as against City or against real madrid in the UCL last season

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October 09, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
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Honestly for me the first pick would be Robert Lewandowski because he is scoring in every match and plays like this for couple of years and for me no one comes close to how good he is now. Messi dosent deserve it because of his club achivements this year.

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October 09, 2021, 07:14:13 PM
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OP is neymar and pedri placed as one player, I think pedri has had a very eventful year, for country and club, spain and Barcelona respectively, so if he is on the thirty man list he deserves it, everyone on that list deserves it, but I think some other Baryern Munich players should be in the list, players like kimmich a very versatile German player, or gnabry regardless it's really an unpredictable ballon d'or but if am to drop it's to top ten in no particular order
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I personally I think the Ballon d'ot is  some fucked up award based on popularity, and we all know who's very popular among the shortlisted players right now, Messi and then CR7

Given what has happened in the last year, definitely, Lionel might win it.

I would love Lewandowski to take it home, but it's not going to happen.

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October 09, 2021, 09:33:22 PM
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I'd be happy if Messi wins and he well deserved it but I guess Lewandowski is also close to the award this time. He broke Müller's record, it was a great season in Bundesliga. I think people underestimate Lewa's achievements, it's pretty absurd he never win Ballon d'Or if you ask me. If he played for Real Madrid he'd already got at least two of them. Bayern lobby is not that big as we can see.
I don't think Chelsea players or Italians would win it as both teams were not carried by only one player. In Argentina case things are different though. Messi played a big part in that cup.

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October 09, 2021, 09:56:07 PM
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I personally I think the Ballon d'ot is  some fucked up award based on popularity, and we all know who's very popular among the shortlisted players right now, Messi and then CR7

Given what has happened in the last year, definitely, Lionel might win it.

I would love Lewandowski to take it home, but it's not going to happen.

If not for what happened last year (Not being awarded), I'm quite sure that Lewandoski would have won it alongside the Uefa player of the year in a deserving fashion.. but does Messi deserve yes he does, if we aren't going to judge by Barcelona performance, but he's individual brilliance over the course of the year and as well he's performance at the Copa America (which I think would make a huge impact on the votes).

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I'd be happy if Messi wins and he well deserved it but I guess Lewandowski is also close to the award this time. He broke Müller's record, it was a great season in Bundesliga. I think people underestimate Lewa's achievements, it's pretty absurd he never win Ballon d'Or if you ask me. If he played for Real Madrid he'd already got at least two of them. Bayern lobby is not that big as we can see.
I don't think Chelsea players or Italians would win it as both teams were not carried by only one player. In Argentina case things are different though. Messi played a big part in that cup.

i see it exactly the same way as you do.
the time has finally come for Robert Lewandowski to win this long-awaited award. last year, when the event was cancelled due to covid-19, he was the very big favorite to win this trophy.
he achieved so much last year as well as this year, and his performances have always remained at a very high level, or rather, have steadily gone uphill.
what has L. Messi achieved in the same time apart from the copa...? Roll Eyes

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And the winner is? (probably Messi)

NO,I think that Messi will NOT win the Ballon d'or anymore.
My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).
Salah is a top class player,who deserves to win the Baloon d'or.Jurgen Klop said that Salah is at the level of Messi and Ronaldo.
Bonucci is also my favorite.He had a great career in the Italian footaball and he won Euro 2020.
Ronaldo is too old to win Ballon d'or.
Erling Haaland is probably the best striker right now,but he doesn't have any major trophies with his club and his national team.

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If not for what happened last year (Not being awarded), I'm quite sure that Lewandoski would have won it alongside the Uefa player of the year in a deserving fashion.. but does Messi deserve yes he does, if we aren't going to judge by Barcelona performance, but he's individual brilliance over the course of the year and as well he's performance at the Copa America (which I think would make a huge impact on the votes).
C. Ronaldo and L. Messi should not win Ballon d'or anymore, they have tried by wining 5 and 6 times respectively, there are many other players like them, they should not win it. Just like you know exactly who I will choose, Lewandoski is a very good Bayern player, it plays good and is worth to win Ballon d'or, there are still many good other players that can be choosen which will make the whole thing lively.

NO,I think that Messi will NOT win the Ballon d'or anymore.
This is sport, there is nothing impossible.

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For next year honor if mistakenly Manchester united were to win the premier league and champion league with Cristiano Ronaldo playing a very important role in those victory then he deserves to win.
It does not matter who wins the UCL, it depends on the players also, there are cases Ballon d'or winners was not among the players of the club that won UCL. Lionel Messi won the last one two years ago but Bayern Munich won champions league at the time and there are cases like that in the past.



One thing I have noticed about C. Ronaldo, he is more ambitious to win Champions League but Real Madrid is the glory he had. He has no two reasons he chose Juventus, Juventus always qualify for champions quarter final and many times semi final when Ronaldo was in Real Madrid, it could be the reason he went to Juventus to be the best club.

I hope he will play good in Manchester United, but it can never be like the Ferguson time for Man United, his stay in Manchester United may not lead to a single win for Champions League just like Juventus. In standford bridge, I could not believe they were happy for the last minute goal scored against Villarreal, the second leg will come and we will see the outcome. To my best of knowledge Manchester United is not performing the best I think of them as the players have to be focused on rather than depending on Ronaldo if they truly want to win Champions League. PSG has been trying to win this league title, no one knows who will be the winner but I doubt if Manchester United will go far.

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Lets remove Christiano Ronaldo and lionel messi from this picture,at least they have been a drastic competition for over 11years between these great players which ended in the ratio of 5:6 respectively.
I'm critically looking at Mbappe on his current form and i think he's got what most attackers has failed to adapt to; speed,accuracy,influence on pitch,body balance,skills,pace and what have you... Cheesy
So i think he's on the right path to claiming this year's ballon d'or.
Another bone of contention is 'Erling halland'. Now,i think these player is on great form and could also stand a chance to contest for the best player.
The ballon d'or looks difficult for most players that haven't devoted their time and life to make it,but easy for the ones that does otherwise

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C. Ronaldo and L. Messi should not win Ballon d'or anymore, they have tried by wining 5 and 6 times respectively, there are many other players like them, they should not win it.

Well I do not think the award will have value if it is just be shared among players. I do not care if one player wins it all the time provided he deserves it then he should win. Where it becomes a problem is when others has been brilliant yet they are not been awarded the honor. Just like in this case, among all the nominate player last season, jorginho has been the most brilliant and deserve to win.

For next year honor if mistakenly Manchester united were to win the premier league and champion league with Cristiano Ronaldo playing a very important role in those victory then he deserves to win. Both Ronaldo and messi has been entertaining to watch end they should keep winning both team and individual honors provided they give us their best everytime.

The duo of Ronaldo and Messi have made the award monotonous and boring as it usually awarded to them probably because they actually have performed better but this time around there are crops of players too who are deserving for the award like lewandoski, jorjinho, mbappe can come to the party. These players have also performed very well. Mbappe for instance have been in form.

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My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).


If we are to say that the Ballon d'or is not a popularity contest and truly it is given to most deserving in terms of titles and cups won, IMHO Benzema should be top runner to win this Ballon d'Or having a world cup medal and Nations League medal to his name. Benzema is on a fantastic form and has performed and scored against big teams, he deserves to be recognised.

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I think you had a auto correct moment and you meant to write the winner is Cristanio Ronaldo, what has *Messi done to win it this year?. Also it’ll be interesting if someone else wins it, because their era is definitely on the end but will they get to win it one last time fingers crossed in excitement.

*Messi is one the best, but I’m a Ronaldo fan.

Nope.
This is what the media are already saying, Messi is the favorite.
He only won the South Amrica cup.

If we need to watch trophies the winner must be Jorghino, winning the UCL with Chelsea, Best FIFA player award for Euro 2020 (played this summer) and winner of Euro 2021 with Italy.

The winner should be Lewandowskior Jorginho but IMHO and according to media Messi will win.


The question is why?
The answer can be easy, the owner of PSG is a middleman from Qatar state, the world cup will in in Qatar organized by the same REAL owner of PSG, the TV copyright will be a surprise surprises held by the same owner.

It will be a marketing bust if Messi will win.




Same thing happened on 2018, why Modric won the ballon d'or while Cristiano Ronaldo got probably one of his best year with 15-16 goals in CL?
In theory awards like this should be given exclusively on performance but we know this is not the case, all the information you are giving seems to indicate that Messi will most likely be the winner of the Ballon d'or, besides we know that the people also have influence about who wins these kind of awards, and even if Messi did not had his best year he is loved by the fans and since he finally won a trophy with his national team that could be enough justification to give him the award.
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My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).


If we are to say that the Ballon d'or is not a popularity contest and truly it is given to most deserving in terms of titles and cups won, IMHO Benzema should be top runner to win this Ballon d'Or having a world cup medal and Nations League medal to his name. Benzema is on a fantastic form and has performed and scored against big teams, he deserves to be recognised.
I agree with you I think Karim Benzema would be a good choice and a quite small surprise (like would be Kylian Mbappe too) but you are wrong Karim Benzema has not a world cup medal as you said because he was not selected in the french team during the last world cup in 2018.

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My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).


If we are to say that the Ballon d'or is not a popularity contest and truly it is given to most deserving in terms of titles and cups won, IMHO Benzema should be top runner to win this Ballon d'Or having a world cup medal and Nations League medal to his name. Benzema is on a fantastic form and has performed and scored against big teams, he deserves to be recognised.
I agree with you I think Karim Benzema would be a good choice and a quite small surprise (like would be Kylian Mbappe too) but you are wrong Karim Benzema has not a world cup medal as you said because he was not selected in the french team during the last world cup in 2018.

What about Chelsea players? Is there no one worthy of this trophy? from what I know at least the chosen player must contribute to one title
Local League , Champions League or other competition Unfortunately there are no players who managed to get 3 titles at once this season

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My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).


If we are to say that the Ballon d'or is not a popularity contest and truly it is given to most deserving in terms of titles and cups won, IMHO Benzema should be top runner to win this Ballon d'Or having a world cup medal and Nations League medal to his name. Benzema is on a fantastic form and has performed and scored against big teams, he deserves to be recognised.
I agree with you I think Karim Benzema would be a good choice and a quite small surprise (like would be Kylian Mbappe too) but you are wrong Karim Benzema has not a world cup medal as you said because he was not selected in the french team during the last world cup in 2018.

What about Chelsea players? Is there no one worthy of this trophy? from what I know at least the chosen player must contribute to one title
Local League , Champions League or other competition Unfortunately there are no players who managed to get 3 titles at once this season

I’m a Manchester United fan but I’ll be happy if it goes Salah, because he deserves this award for all the hard work he’s been doing on the pitch. Also Benzema has single handedly been keeping Real Madrid alive, so yes he too is a worthy contender for this award.
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My favorites are Benzema and Mohamed Salah.Karim Benzema is a great player with great contribution for Real Madrid(even though I don't like Real Madrid).


If we are to say that the Ballon d'or is not a popularity contest and truly it is given to most deserving in terms of titles and cups won, IMHO Benzema should be top runner to win this Ballon d'Or having a world cup medal and Nations League medal to his name. Benzema is on a fantastic form and has performed and scored against big teams, he deserves to be recognised.
Why is Robert Lewandowski side lined he has done so much this season to deserve nomination even though he doesn't earn the title. Haaland or Karim Benzema should be another key focus. But for me the most deserving of this year's  Balloon d'or should be the Bundlesliga legend and no other
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Have to agree with most people. Messi and Ronaldo are great, but they have waned over the last season, and each has not proven yet at his new club that he is indispendable,,, whereas for Benzema and Lewandowski both proved they are needed both at club and country.

My vote is for Benzema but Lewie fully deserves it.

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October 19, 2021, 09:49:23 AM
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i think lionel messi and cristiano ronaldo can get  ballon d'or
but last season, without throphy, messi get coppa america
so messi can win
another big chance jorginho win champion league and euro
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i think lionel messi and cristiano ronaldo can get  ballon d'or
but last season, without throphy, messi get coppa america
so messi can win
another big chance jorginho win champion league and euro

As much as I love Messi and I do think he is the best player of all times, it would not really feel right if he gets the ballon d'or for the past season. Players like Haaland or Lewandwoski were really fun to watch, really exciting performances. That also counts for a number of other players, but not so much for Ronaldo and Messi the past year.

However, there was a meme going around, it was like: Messi chose Paris as his next club because that is where the Ballon d'or will be handed out, so he can save money on the flights.

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October 21, 2021, 07:41:57 PM
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i think lionel messi and cristiano ronaldo can get  ballon d'or
but last season, without throphy, messi get coppa america
so messi can win
another big chance jorginho win champion league and euro
their era isn't over yet but for the ballon d'or it seems not. they are both great players and everyone knows that and there is no denying their greatness.
ronaldo with his hard training and he is like a robot and messi who is blessed by his natural talent have all been great and graced the awards for a few seasons but now there has to be a regeneration and they deserve more.
compared to jorginho, i think lewie is better in his performance even though jorginho has references, namely the UCL and Euro trophies.

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October 21, 2021, 08:22:10 PM
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As much as I love Messi and I do think he is the best player of all times, it would not really feel right if he gets the ballon d'or for the past season. Players like Haaland or Lewandwoski were really fun to watch, really exciting performances. That also counts for a number of other players, but not so much for Ronaldo and Messi the past year.

However, there was a meme going around, it was like: Messi chose Paris as his next club because that is where the Ballon d'or will be handed out, so he can save money on the flights.

If Modric won years ago over Ronaldo who scored the all-time record goals in one Year in the Cl only for a political choice of leaving Real Madrid, this year Messi can surely win over Lewa and Jorginho for another political (QATAR) decision.

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Have to agree with most people. Messi and Ronaldo are great, but they have waned over the last season, and each has not proven yet at his new club that he is indispendable,,, whereas for Benzema and Lewandowski both proved they are needed both at club and country.

My vote is for Benzema but Lewie fully deserves it.
Those guys have won so many awards, individual and with their teams, that unless they are at the very top of their games I would not give the award to them, and since this is not the case right now, at least in my mind they should not get the Ballon d'or, but unfortunately things are never that simple, we know there are a lot of influences trying to move the results to one side or the other and it seems Messi could get the award even if there are many other players which deserve it more.
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There is no doubt that this year the award is open to other non-frequent, I speak for example of GianLuigi DonnaRumma who would be a good winner, perhaps not a favorite, but that if very well received by everyone, because the fact that CR7 does not win makes the Messi fans happy and that the Argentine does not win in the same way, so Robert Lewandowski (!?) well done, good season, but let's leave everyone happy and may a goalkeeper win for the second time.  Smiley




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October 21, 2021, 10:59:15 PM
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There is no doubt that this year the award is open to other non-frequent, I speak for example of GianLuigi DonnaRumma who would be a good winner, perhaps not a favorite, but that if very well received by everyone, because the fact that CR7 does not win makes the Messi fans happy and that the Argentine does not win in the same way, so Robert Lewandowski (!?) well done, good season, but let's leave everyone happy and may a goalkeeper win for the second time.  Smiley


Donnarumma has been one of the best keepers in Europe for about 2 seasons now but I don't think that makes him the only suitable candidate for this year's Ballond'or. I mean, there have been other players that have had top notch performance too. But at this point, I feel like it doesn't really matter much since they'd just give the trophy to Ronaldo or Messi as usual.

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October 22, 2021, 07:21:41 AM
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Only Lev Yashin has ever won a Ballon d'Or for the goalkeeper position, so it's improbable for another GK to win this award, except he is an IMBA goalkeeper. Yes, Donnarumma is the best player for EURO 21, but his club record is not that impressive.

Also Messi and Ronaldo era is over (apart from not so impressive achievement this year), so I think they will give it to another player. Probably Lewandowski Tongue

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October 22, 2021, 01:06:12 PM
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Have to agree with most people. Messi and Ronaldo are great, but they have waned over the last season, and each has not proven yet at his new club that he is indispendable,,, whereas for Benzema and Lewandowski both proved they are needed both at club and country.

My vote is for Benzema but Lewie fully deserves it.
Those guys have won so many awards, individual and with their teams, that unless they are at the very top of their games I would not give the award to them, and since this is not the case right now, at least in my mind they should not get the Ballon d'or, but unfortunately things are never that simple, we know there are a lot of influences trying to move the results to one side or the other and it seems Messi could get the award even if there are many other players which deserve it more.

Definitely not this year anyway. or the half of last year. Even counting playing time Messi and Ronaldo have not clocked up as much as they used to simply because of sitting on the bench and because of injuries,,, so it would be highly unfair for people to give their votes to these two when others deserve it more.

Benzema may not win it in the end because of his personality and of his involvement in the sextape scandal though,,, that makes a lot of other footballers mad I believe.

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If Modric won years ago over Ronaldo who scored the all-time record goals in one Year in the Cl only for a political choice of leaving Real Madrid, this year Messi can surely win over Lewa and Jorginho for another political (QATAR) decision.

I don't know why you persistently devalue Modric and his success in the Real Madrid and the national team in 2018 when Croatia played in the finals of the World Cup? Only those who for some reason hate Real Madrid or Croatia were against it at the time, the rest of the world bowed to the little wizard from an even smaller country that made an unimaginable success.

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As much as I love Messi and I do think he is the best player of all times, it would not really feel right if he gets the ballon d'or for the past season. Players like Haaland or Lewandwoski were really fun to watch, really exciting performances. That also counts for a number of other players, but not so much for Ronaldo and Messi the past year.

However, there was a meme going around, it was like: Messi chose Paris as his next club because that is where the Ballon d'or will be handed out, so he can save money on the flights.

If Modric won years ago over Ronaldo who scored the all-time record goals in one Year in the Cl only for a political choice of leaving Real Madrid, this year Messi can surely win over Lewa and Jorginho for another political (QATAR) decision.

There is definitely some truth to what you are saying! Certainly, Messi and Ronaldo often deserved the trophies simply because they were the best on the planet, period. But at times there are political and fame elements involved, which is really not great, but not surprising either right? That is how the world works. I am totally convinced that Messi is the all-time best, yet he must deserve the trophy yearly by achievement, not by reputation based on the past. Of course, even in a bad season he is the best striker in La Liga.

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October 23, 2021, 08:42:11 AM
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It's really an unpredictable ballon d'or but if am to drop it's to top ten in no particular order
+Jorginho
+ Lionel Messi
+Cristiano ronaldo
+ Kylian mbappe
+ Erling halland
+ Kevin debruyne
+ Neymar
+N'golo kante
+ Ruben dias
+ Robert lewandowski
It's arose a lot of controversies lately, the Ballon D'or since Covid-19 where a lot of persons expected it to be the turn of Robert Lewandowski following his contributions with both Bayern Munich and his Poland but then, it had to come down to what it was. This time, I see a lot of competition for this as, its no longer the Messi Cum Ronaldo as it used to be. Both of the stars haven't been so awesome if you would ask me but, they've still made a worth while contribution.

Mean while, I think the top 10 list is literally it as, a lot of other names that made it to the top 30 seems like a mare decoration and probably, an appreciation of performance on the individual players. Nice one for every noted player to have made the list.

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October 23, 2021, 09:25:27 PM
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What about Chelsea players? Is there no one worthy of this trophy? from what I know at least the chosen player must contribute to one title
Local League , Champions League or other competition Unfortunately there are no players who managed to get 3 titles at once this season

The ballon d'or is between Chelsea players and Robert lewandowski. Any one  among the Chelsea players do deserve it especially Jorginho. Lewandowski was robbed of it last year as the pandemic cause the event not to hold. If he get it this year ahead of Jorginho it is fine because Lewandowski deserve to be named among the best for his contributions to football over the years.

Reading about goalkeeper winning the award, why is Mendy (Chelsea goal keeper) not listed among the shortlist. Could it be because there was so many players from Chelsea already on the list. Mendy was phenomenal last season, keep clean sheets game after game and conceding just 4 goals in the whole champion league season. With such achievement, he deserves to be on the list. OH wait he is black, an African and also a goal keeper nevermind.

Yes I think if Lewandowski receives it is still fair not only because he was robbed of it during the pandemic, but also because he currently excellently confirms that he is worth that trophy. He still scores like a machine in all competitions, is at an outstanding fitness level and still the brilliant team player he used to be during the last season as well. He is a real team player, similar to Haaland. It has been discussed before, but I would honestly be a little bit shocked if Messi or Ronaldo took it home even though Messi won the Copa, but he has to accept that his achievements get measured by the standards he set in the past.

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Also Messi and Ronaldo era is over (apart from not so impressive achievement this year), so I think they will give it to another player. Probably Lewandowski Tongue
Lionel Messi might get this years Ballon d for his Copa America performance as he won the trophy with the national team and he won the golden boot and his performance for Barcelona was not bad either. CR7 scored a lot of goals this season and was the golden boot winner during the recent Euro cup and the only issue is he did not won any major tournament. So to write these legends off is just silly  Tongue.
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October 24, 2021, 01:27:58 AM
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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤  i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness  Grin
So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please  Wink

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I wonder, has the voting already taken place or is that still running? I know usually the Ballon d'or is referring to the past season, but isn't the voting still running and current performances will also have an influence?

If that is the case, i can very well imagine that Mo Salah might also have a chance given his current performance in the PL, especially today.

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October 24, 2021, 06:27:48 PM
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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤  i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness  Grin
So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please  Wink
there is some controversy that will occur when messi gets the seventh Ballon d'or this because indeed to speak of performance no one doubts the ability of this player but the red card problem when he was still in Barcelona uniform might be one of the stumbling blocks for messi to get the title this season's ballon d'or.
even French legend Franck Leboeuf said and compared Messi's current situation with his colleague in the French national team, Zinedine Zidane. "Zidane didn't win the Ballon d'Or because he received a red card every election time (2000 and 2006). "Messi received a red card in the Spanish Super Cup (versus Bilbao) for hitting an opponent, it could have an effect".

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October 24, 2021, 09:04:04 PM
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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤  i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness  Grin
So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please  Wink
This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.
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October 25, 2021, 08:10:24 AM
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Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

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October 25, 2021, 10:41:19 AM
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Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.

Of the 30 nominees for the 2021 Ballon d'Or, Lionel Messi is indeed the strongest candidate to win it. With his good performance with Barcelona
and the national team, it seems that it is difficult for other candidates to beat Messi. But I have a different opinion, I chose Jorginho who also
played amazingly with Chelsea and the Italian national team. Jorginho won the Champions League trophy with Chelsea and helped Italy win
the UEFA Euro. So with Jorginho's achievements he really deserves to be the winner of the 2021 Ballon d'Or, we'll see the results will be announced
on November 29 in Paris.

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October 27, 2021, 06:57:25 AM
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i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin


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October 27, 2021, 07:05:47 AM
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i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin


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Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.


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Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.

If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.


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I think what still was exciting was the rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi. I mean will we really ever see two guys scoring 50 and 46 goals respectively in La Liga within a single season? The question was always out for man people who of the two is the GOAT. For me it is definitely Messi, but it was understandable when Ronaldo got the world soccer player trophy as well. He had performances that were out of this world as well.

Should it be Lewandowski, the choice would be ok. He is doing amazing on a constant level now for quite some time.

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October 30, 2021, 04:43:46 PM
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I think what still was exciting was the rivalry between Ronaldo and Messi. I mean will we really ever see two guys scoring 50 and 46 goals respectively in La Liga within a single season? The question was always out for man people who of the two is the GOAT. For me it is definitely Messi, but it was understandable when Ronaldo got the world soccer player trophy as well. He had performances that were out of this world as well.

Should it be Lewandowski, the choice would be ok. He is doing amazing on a constant level now for quite some time.
their performance is indeed quite good but only for individuals and last season their performance in the team was not good enough in statistics especially winning the title.
indeed everyone knows that they are GOATs that even it will be difficult to keep up with these two players.
but on the other hand his contribution to the team is also calculated and lewa is one of the players who has a pretty good contribution, on the other hand he also continues to improve his record

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October 31, 2021, 11:12:57 AM
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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤  i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness  Grin
So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please  Wink
This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.
It's a yearly award,am not disputing that fact but,to your own discretion which player is worth the award ?
Do you think the award will be given to any player of your choice for your own opinion?
These is about a players performance and not about sentimentalities, get these OP Smiley

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October 31, 2021, 11:24:41 AM
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It's very clear that leonel messi is the real G.O.A.T🐐 ❤  i mean this is on my own discretion in addition to the BRACE he has scored and the trophy he carried internationally, he scored a free kick again and again to prove his uniqueness  Grin
So what y'all still saying? Who are you having in mind if not Messi?
Ronaldo on his debut, lewandoski who hasn't made any course of qualifications for the balloons d'or
Who else please  Wink
This is a yearly award and not one that should consider the achievements during the whole career of the players, obviously Messi is one of the best players of all time but something like that should not count for this particular award, only what Messi did during this year should count, and since he switched teams, suffered and injury and his level has not been close to his best I think someone else should receive this award instead of him.
It's a yearly award,am not disputing that fact but,to your own discretion which player is worth the award ?
Do you think the award will be given to any player of your choice for your own opinion?
These is about a players performance and not about sentimentalities, get these OP Smiley
when talking about messi indeed everyone will know that he is a very extraordinary player.
but for this season's ballon d'or I think there are other players who deserve the award.
Time for new players to receive this award looks like it will only get better because this award was special for the previous few seasons as only 2 people fought for it. if not ronaldo yes messi but now it's different.

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October 31, 2021, 12:03:49 PM
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i still see RL as the big favorite for this award... of course there are a few other world class players who deserve this award
i still keep my fingers crossed for Robert, when in one month it will be: and the winner is... Grin


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@cygan Robert is a beast and if Messi and Ronaldo were not there then I too would have said that he’s the deserving candidate for this award. However I believe that he’ll not be winning it next month, but if he wins it then I’ll be absolutely happy, because he’s a magnificent player and definitely deserves to win this award at some stage of career.
He is indeed under the two GOATS , lewy individual records isnt enough to put him on top of the list. in recent days colective records & achievements counted towards the ballon d'or qualification , domestically and nationally.
unfortunately lewy has not earned sufficient achievement in his national team , if only poland reached euro final or semifinal at least... he could get that ballon d'or award easily on top of messi and cristiano.

on this ballon d'or edition it seems jorginho favorited to grab the award as he won it all even though a lot of people would a bit disagree .. they have to accept it due the terms & qualification in it , i personally voted for kante for no reason.

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October 31, 2021, 12:24:15 PM
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If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.


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Seems legit except why is Ronaldo not in that list? Not that I'm a fanboy but surely his age and exploits this season and last are enough to see him get a mention? Unless he's in 8th place below N'golo Kante heh.

@Alisha-k then you probably have not been following these awards. They're definitely about performance but in the end, it's still a voting contest and as such, there is some popularity contest going on there and a lot of sentiment behind those votes!

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October 31, 2021, 01:00:25 PM
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Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.
Leonel Messi is my favorite to win the Ballon d'or but he is not the right full candidate to win the Ballon d'or no matter how much I like him I think he may best come in second place, Robert lewandowski was robbed from a ballon d'or by no one but the coronavirus, and I think he is an electric striker and if any one should win Ballon d'or that's no Leonel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo I think he should be the one, but Messi is bigger than him and Messi may just use his status to edge him out.

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October 31, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
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Lionel Messi is favorite for this year Ballon d' or.
This award is given Base on individual performance of players, Messi won the best player in La liga, scored the highest goals in both la Liga and Copa America.
More of the vote counts from Captain's, coaches and journalist will do.
Leonel Messi is my favorite to win the Ballon d'or but he is not the right full candidate to win the Ballon d'or no matter how much I like him I think he may best come in second place, Robert lewandowski was robbed from a ballon d'or by no one but the coronavirus, and I think he is an electric striker and if any one should win Ballon d'or that's no Leonel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo I think he should be the one, but Messi is bigger than him and Messi may just use his status to edge him out.

Keep also in mind that Lewandowski constantly delivers, this weekend he again scored two goals while Messi needed to leave the pitch during half-time. He still has his amazing moments, but it seems to me as if his speed gets lower over time and the number of amazing moments also is shrinking. He is still a terrific free-kick striker and he had some solid performances in the CL, but I don't think that will be enough.

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October 31, 2021, 03:35:47 PM
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I doubt the credibility of this document, because some names like "Kevin debruyne" were not spelt correctly (was spelt as Kewin).



If however Lewandoski is to emerge winner, i will be genuinely happy for him because he should have been the winner in 2020 if not for COVID. Not just because of goals, but because of total contribution to the team from 2020 till date.

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Seems legit except why is Ronaldo not in that list? Not that I'm a fanboy but surely his age and exploits this season and last are enough to see him get a mention? Unless he's in 8th place below N'golo Kante heh.

It is, position number 9.

This is to the 1st time when the winner is leaked before the official announcement, so this leak can be genuine.

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October 31, 2021, 06:27:45 PM
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If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

https://i.imgur.com/mJT6yv4.png

I don't think that's real. We saw in previous leak Messi was on top, now they put Lewa. It seems like they try to lower the credibility of first leak, put another leak for confusion. I wouldn't be surprised if Messi or Lewandowski win it but it's better to wait award night than believing these so called "leaks" over the internet. I wish they give last year's award as well, that way we wouldn't see much controversy. Give one award to Lewandowski and other award to Messi, everybody would be okay with that.

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October 31, 2021, 08:38:15 PM
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Seems legit except why is Ronaldo not in that list? Not that I'm a fanboy but surely his age and exploits this season and last are enough to see him get a mention? Unless he's in 8th place below N'golo Kante heh.

It is, position number 9.

This is to the 1st time when the winner is leaked before the official announcement, so this leak can be genuine.

Are you sure it is the first time? I thought it has happened before although I am not entirely sure if it was for the Ballon dor. Do you guys remember when the Champions League pairings were leaked, then it was claimed that those pairings are not true but when the lottery was done the pairings were actually true? Cheesy I think it was something like that.

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Are you sure it is the first time? I thought it has happened before although I am not entirely sure if it was for the Ballon dor. Do you guys remember when the Champions League pairings were leaked, then it was claimed that those pairings are not true but when the lottery was done the pairings were actually true? Cheesy I think it was something like that.

I said this is not the 1st time.

The ballon D'or winner has been leaked in 2018 too.

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November 07, 2021, 01:00:40 PM
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It's totally boring giving Lionel Messi the Ballon d'or again for Seventh time, Lewandoski deserve to be crowned this time around....what else does he have to do in other to win this Ballon d'or ?
 How about Jorginho of Chelsea football club ?
Won the Champions League and European competition with Italy, this are player that should be crowned not Messi.

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Are you sure it is the first time? I thought it has happened before although I am not entirely sure if it was for the Ballon dor. Do you guys remember when the Champions League pairings were leaked, then it was claimed that those pairings are not true but when the lottery was done the pairings were actually true? Cheesy I think it was something like that.

I said this is not the 1st time.

The ballon D'or winner has been leaked in 2018 too.

You can read more here

https://cronaldodaily.com/9764/leaked-ballon-dor-2018-sheet-claims-modric-has-floored-ronaldo/

Thanks for sharing!

Anyway, Lewandowski performed the best and also was incredible stable with his performances. It is not like he plays 5 good games and then 5 bad games. He is doing well and so deserves such a trophy.

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Thanks for sharing!

Anyway, Lewandowski performed the best and also was incredible stable with his performances. It is not like he plays 5 good games and then 5 bad games. He is doing well and so deserves such a trophy.

and that's why i think that only Robert Lewandowski deserves this award by a wide margin - without any doubts.
if you were to compare the two national teams argentina and poland, L. Messi would have to achieve much more with the much stronger national team than poland, as he has done up to this point...

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November 07, 2021, 06:32:30 PM
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Thanks for sharing!

Anyway, Lewandowski performed the best and also was incredible stable with his performances. It is not like he plays 5 good games and then 5 bad games. He is doing well and so deserves such a trophy.

and that's why i think that only Robert Lewandowski deserves this award by a wide margin - without any doubts.
if you were to compare the two national teams argentina and poland, L. Messi would have to achieve much more with the much stronger national team than poland, as he has done up to this point...
Robert lewandoski deserves the award no doubt but what happens to younger players that are worth the ballon d'oar two times over for their outstanding performance for these season?
How do you just quantify every player's performance by a mere hyping and you think FIFA will see it from your point of view? No!
Lewi hasn't carried the champions league these time which is one of the greatest advantage when qualifying a player for the BEST PLAYER AWARD " the likes of Erling Halland, kylain mbappe even the world's recognize goat, leo messi  are still on good advantage,yeah  Cool

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November 07, 2021, 10:01:35 PM
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If it is really Lewandowski that will win the award, then I am definitely happy for him and he definitely deserved it. However that list doesn't look like it is ranked properly, thats the only thing I am not entirely sure about. Like do we really believe that Messi came in second? or benzema third? Where is Ronaldo in that case? No matter what the situation is like, I have to say that Salah and Lewa were the only two players that I would give the award to this past year. Salah had a semi-decent season last season, which could be one of the reasons why he wasn't first in that list, but we are seeing how great he is once again now that he is playing well again.

So, Lewandowski breaking the Bundesliga record for scoring, ending up with the award would be very very good, he definitely deserved it, one of the best peak scoring performances in recent memory.

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November 07, 2021, 11:36:40 PM
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If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

https://i.imgur.com/mJT6yv4.png

I don't think that's real. We saw in previous leak Messi was on top, now they put Lewa. It seems like they try to lower the credibility of first leak, put another leak for confusion. I wouldn't be surprised if Messi or Lewandowski win it but it's better to wait award night than believing these so called "leaks" over the internet. I wish they give last year's award as well, that way we wouldn't see much controversy. Give one award to Lewandowski and other award to Messi, everybody would be okay with that.
i agree, if Lewandowski wins it I'd be okay with that because I think he deserved to win it last year and if Messi wins it same thing, he helped his national team to win the Copa America and scored many goals with Barcelona and beautiful ones too, the odds are favoring Lewandowski by a lot, I think he will win it for sure, Messi did amazing but it only goes to only one.

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November 20, 2021, 01:42:19 PM
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If a document circulating on the Internet is to be believed, Lewandowski will win the Ballon d'or this year - and this is not the first time such a document has leaked and proved to be accurate. Personally, I'm happy to see that other players are winning this award, and that it's not just reserved for two players in the world - it has become quite boring, regardless of their unquestionable qualities.

https://i.imgur.com/mJT6yv4.png

I don't think that's real. We saw in previous leak Messi was on top, now they put Lewa. It seems like they try to lower the credibility of first leak, put another leak for confusion. I wouldn't be surprised if Messi or Lewandowski win it but it's better to wait award night than believing these so called "leaks" over the internet. I wish they give last year's award as well, that way we wouldn't see much controversy. Give one award to Lewandowski and other award to Messi, everybody would be okay with that.
i agree, if Lewandowski wins it I'd be okay with that because I think he deserved to win it last year and if Messi wins it same thing, he helped his national team to win the Copa America and scored many goals with Barcelona and beautiful ones too, the odds are favoring Lewandowski by a lot, I think he will win it for sure, Messi did amazing but it only goes to only one.

Messi is the best!! Why? Because he is not only the good result in goals but he teaches how to be leader in foot ball. He is the wise man never claims himself is the best, it also teaches people outside football fans how to be humble in life. He is not playing for his own benefits or for his own glory. And he helps his team members and try to win as a team. A true definition of a  team player.

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i agree, if Lewandowski wins it I'd be okay with that because I think he deserved to win it last year and if Messi wins it same thing, he helped his national team to win the Copa America and scored many goals with Barcelona and beautiful ones too, the odds are favoring Lewandowski by a lot, I think he will win it for sure, Messi did amazing but it only goes to only one.

Messi is the best!! Why? Because he is not only the good result in goals but he teaches how to be leader in foot ball. He is the wise man never claims himself is the best, it also teaches people outside football fans how to be humble in life. He is not playing for his own benefits or for his own glory. And he helps his team members and try to win as a team. A true definition of a  team player.

A well-known fact about this guy is that he is too humble. Messi is not only an excellent player, he is smart and humble as well. If 2020 were the year, Lewandovski would be the clear and only favorite. However, in 2021 Messi is the undisputed favorite. Lewandovski has scored more goals. However, Messi has more individual stats and has won more international awards than Lewandovski. The 2021 Ballon d'Or nominated players have all done well. Messi, on the other hand, has been incredible, one step above the rest of the candidates.

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November 23, 2021, 02:56:53 PM
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spanish journalist Sergio Gonzalez reported in the program "Mas Que Pelotas" that not Robert Lewandowski but Lionel Messi will win this year's Golden Ball, for the best footballer in the world in 2021... Roll Eyes

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November 23, 2021, 10:51:55 PM
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spanish journalist Sergio Gonzalez reported in the program "Mas Que Pelotas" that not Robert Lewandowski but Lionel Messi will win this year's Golden Ball, for the best footballer in the world in 2021... Roll Eyes
Lionnel Messi deserves the award if given,considering his work-rate last season.Lewandowski has tried his best,but I think they are still going to give him.
He won all the tittles that can possibly qualify him to win the Ballon d'or tittle.The young lad has really tried in his career as a footballer.Winning tittles back to back.
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spanish journalist Sergio Gonzalez reported in the program "Mas Que Pelotas" that not Robert Lewandowski but Lionel Messi will win this year's Golden Ball, for the best footballer in the world in 2021... Roll Eyes
Lionnel Messi deserves the award if given,considering his work-rate last season.Lewandowski has tried his best,but I think they are still going to give him.
He won all the tittles that can possibly qualify him to win the Ballon d'or tittle.The young lad has really tried in his career as a footballer.Winning tittles back to back.

I don’t believe this how can Messi win ahead of Lewandowski, because the latter was in phenomenal form and definitely deserves to win ahead of Messi. Also what do you’ll feel is the true reason Lewandowski was not considered ahead of Messi, because in my personal opinion the golden ball should go to him for his exploits on the pitch.
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November 24, 2021, 05:09:42 PM
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a nice cartoon about the upcoming b allon d'or event in which one thing becomes clear - Robert Lewandowski and nobody else will hold the trophy in his hands Grin


https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1463229652193980418

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November 24, 2021, 05:51:35 PM
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a nice cartoon about the upcoming b allon d'or event in which one thing becomes clear - Robert Lewandowski and nobody else will hold the trophy in his hands Grin


https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1463229652193980418
this is very funny and tickling lol
indirectly this is a slap in the face for some people who are still preventing Lewa from winning the ballon d'or.
French Football? Cheesy This is interesting, the intention of the picture is clearly to give criticism but with a very funny picture lol

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November 26, 2021, 08:19:08 PM
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Just to bump up this tread before the big day.

3 days left and the leak lead to Lewa.


next info leaked...

spanish journalist Sergio Gonzalez reported in the program "Mas Que Pelotas" that not Robert Lewandowski but Lionel Messi will win this year's Golden Ball, for the best footballer in the world in 2021... Roll Eyes
Lionnel Messi deserves the award if given,considering his work-rate last season.Lewandowski has tried his best,but I think they are still going to give him.
He won all the tittles that can possibly qualify him to win the Ballon d'or tittle.The young lad has really tried in his career as a footballer.Winning tittles back to back.


Hello my name is Jorginho and I won more than Messi. Wink

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November 26, 2021, 08:37:33 PM
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It's totally boring giving Lionel Messi the Ballon d'or again for Seventh time, Lewandoski deserve to be crowned this time around....what else does he have to do in other to win this Ballon d'or ?
 How about Jorginho of Chelsea football club ?
Won the Champions League and European competition with Italy, this are player that should be crowned not Messi.
Honestly Lionel Messi does not merit another Ballon d'or again, on what ground or yardstick used as a standard that would warrant his winning the award again? I don't think there is any major tournament or competition that he got any award except COPA America, Jorginho should be considered likewise Lewandoski these are my two favorite players who I believe merit the award rather than recycling the duo of Ronaldo and Messi, other players should be given a chance too, else the would award would be like a charade.

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November 26, 2021, 10:32:22 PM
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3 days left and the leak lead to Lewa.
Oh yeah, almost there for waiting the award ceremony on Monday, November 29 in Paris.
I remembers the period when Ronaldo and Messi always dominate the award winning.
but now, it seems different.
Many people still have the big chance will fall into Messi. But, Lewandowski  and Salah also have big chance to win it.  Cool

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November 26, 2021, 10:35:48 PM
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a nice cartoon about the upcoming b allon d'or event in which one thing becomes clear - Robert Lewandowski and nobody else will hold the trophy in his hands Grin


https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1463229652193980418

I agree with this i think Robert Lewandowski had an amazing season and is continuing in this one as well,scoring so many goals for Bayern Munich. Messi for me isnt even in top 5 dosent deserve this trophy ,isnt playing really good isnt even close to his top level like in the years before.

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November 29, 2021, 12:59:02 PM
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I agree with this i think Robert Lewandowski had an amazing season and is continuing in this one as well,scoring so many goals for Bayern Munich. Messi for me isnt even in top 5 dosent deserve this trophy ,isnt playing really good isnt even close to his top level like in the years before.
You are entitled to your choice, as we all have a theory to support our thinking. But, if the Ballon d'Or is decided based on goals, then Messi should have made the top 10. Despite Lewandowski scoring the most goals, I think he does not deserve to win the Ballon d'Or in 2021. In terms of individual brilliance, Lewandowski, in terms of logic, Messi, in terms of the media.
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November 29, 2021, 01:15:20 PM
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Hours left until the award was given and the excitement reached its peak. Lewandowski deserved the award. Messi deserved it too. No matter which player gets it, it will not be an unfair reward. I do not consider Karim Benzema very lucky about this trophy. I wish Lewandowski had been given the award last year so that Messi could get the award this year without a doubt. Both players gave an outstanding performance this year.

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November 29, 2021, 01:35:45 PM
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Hours left until the award was given and the excitement reached its peak. Lewandowski deserved the award. Messi deserved it too. No matter which player gets it, it will not be an unfair reward. I do not consider Karim Benzema very lucky about this trophy. I wish Lewandowski had been given the award last year so that Messi could get the award this year without a doubt. Both players gave an outstanding performance this year.
Compared to Messi, I agree more with Lewandoski who got this trophy. Even though he led Argentina to the Copa America win, Barca's performance was very bad when he was still there

Lewandowski is the most consistent striker this year compared to the other nominees. I pray that lewandoski wins

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November 29, 2021, 06:21:48 PM
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So after all the leak was fake.

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November 29, 2021, 09:33:20 PM
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Congratulations to Lionel Messi for winning the  Ballon d'or. Messi has as many Ballon d'or  as there are days in the week. He really deserves it. I feel bad for Lewandowski,  he worked really hard but it's Messi once again picking up his 7th ballondor title. Though he is wearing a terrible suit to the event.
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November 29, 2021, 09:59:06 PM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.

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November 29, 2021, 10:22:37 PM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.

Yes, It was duly deserved award for Lionel Messi, it's too bad that some aren't seeing beyond the shitty season Barcelona had last year, despite that he was individually brilliant for the club still and he's Copa America heroics to crown it all couldn't have been underestimated, Lewandowksi would have been a deserving contestant but no so deserving than Messi in my candid opinion, 202o would have been a undisputed year for him, If the event held.

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November 29, 2021, 10:56:16 PM
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Yes, It was duly deserved award for Lionel Messi, it's too bad that some aren't seeing beyond the shitty season Barcelona had last year, despite that he was individually brilliant for the club still and he's Copa America heroics to crown it all couldn't have been underestimated

I guess its not really a surprise this year huh, I was kinda expecting different name that will pop out this year but nope. It seems that as long as Messi and Ronaldo still play football, either one of them might outshine the other candidate almost every year huh. Anyway this is the first time since 2011 that Ronaldo didnt make it to top three.

I kinda predicted that Lewandowski might make it to top three alongside Messi and Ronaldo but it seems Ronaldo didnt make it

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November 29, 2021, 10:58:36 PM
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next info leaked...

spanish journalist Sergio Gonzalez reported in the program "Mas Que Pelotas" that not Robert Lewandowski but Lionel Messi will win this year's Golden Ball, for the best footballer in the world in 2021... Roll Eyes
a lot of people said that it was leaked and Leva will win it and others said Messi, Messi to win the Ballon d'or was @3 at some point, which really high, and I regret not betting on him after he won Copa America with his national team, it feels bad for Lewandowski of course but Messi deserved it for sure.

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November 29, 2021, 11:04:56 PM
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Have not seen a perfect striker like lewandowski he is so complete, he had a great season but for me I think Lionel Messi deserve it more, he is truly a GOAT of our time, what he did for Argentina with that kind of performance you surely knows that he is getting another ballon d' or, would have loved lewandowski to have won this award but there is Messi and there is nothing one can do about it.

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November 29, 2021, 11:50:47 PM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.
Didn't pay attention to this topic but it is kinda late tho..
Honestly I don't see why Messi got this award while performing lately like 50% (or less) of what he used to do in the previous years... Keeping the reward between 2 names is unfair for the others that work hard and make their teams better. Personally I find players from Lewandowski to Benzema performing better than Messi... Anyway, congratulations to him and good luck for the others once Messi retire.

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November 30, 2021, 12:34:37 AM
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Ballon d'or 2021 left me mixed feelings. I'm not saying that Messi didn't deserved to win it, I just feel sad for Lewandowski.
Messi scored a lot for Barca, but haven't won anything significant except Copa Del Rey. But win in Copa America was decisive factor.
Golden Ball wasn't given last year and Lewandowski was robbed in such way. This year he had amazing performance in Bundesliga, but fact that Bayern haven't won Champions league didn't helped him. He also scored 3 goals in EURO 2020, but it wasn't successful tournament for his team.
After all, Ballon d'or isn't just about personal performance, it's also popularity contest.

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November 30, 2021, 03:46:10 AM
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Ballon d'or 2021 left me mixed feelings. I'm not saying that Messi didn't deserved to win it, I just feel sad for Lewandowski.
Messi scored a lot for Barca, but haven't won anything significant except Copa Del Rey. But win in Copa America was decisive factor.
Golden Ball wasn't given last year and Lewandowski was robbed in such way. This year he had amazing performance in Bundesliga, but fact that Bayern haven't won Champions league didn't helped him. He also scored 3 goals in EURO 2020, but it wasn't successful tournament for his team.
After all, Ballon d'or isn't just about personal performance, it's also popularity contest.

@LTU_btc I don’t feel they’ll ever give it to Lewandowski, because no matter what he does it’ll never be enough for him to win it, but Messi feels that Lewandowski deserves to win it so hopefully next season he may finally gets his hand on it.

Also Ronaldo has hit back at Pascal Ferré and he has claimed that he’s okay even if he didn’t win it, but for some weird reason I feel that he’s hurting from the inside anyone else feels the same?.
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November 30, 2021, 07:02:23 AM
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Ballon d'or 2021 left me mixed feelings. I'm not saying that Messi didn't deserved to win it, I just feel sad for Lewandowski.
Messi scored a lot for Barca, but haven't won anything significant except Copa Del Rey. But win in Copa America was decisive factor.
Golden Ball wasn't given last year and Lewandowski was robbed in such way. This year he had amazing performance in Bundesliga, but fact that Bayern haven't won Champions league didn't helped him. He also scored 3 goals in EURO 2020, but it wasn't successful tournament for his team.
After all, Ballon d'or isn't just about personal performance, it's also popularity contest.
With any luck this will be the start of that stupid award losing the prestige it once had. 
It is no longer about achievement on the field but image off it, the fact Lewandowski did not win it is shambolic enough, but honestly Messi has not been anywhere near the conversation for best player over the last 12 months. This win once again shows the award is actually a popularity contest, with sporting achievement only being secondary. He has got it based on Career achievements, accolades and performances, he hasnt even been the best player in France this year. The credibility of this awarding has not been on merits since 2019. It's now on personal affiliation, favoritism and personal preference.
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November 30, 2021, 08:22:56 AM
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Ballon d'or 2021 left me mixed feelings. I'm not saying that Messi didn't deserved to win it, I just feel sad for Lewandowski.
Messi scored a lot for Barca, but haven't won anything significant except Copa Del Rey. But win in Copa America was decisive factor.
Golden Ball wasn't given last year and Lewandowski was robbed in such way. This year he had amazing performance in Bundesliga, but fact that Bayern haven't won Champions league didn't helped him. He also scored 3 goals in EURO 2020, but it wasn't successful tournament for his team.
After all, Ballon d'or isn't just about personal performance, it's also popularity contest.
With any luck this will be the start of that stupid award losing the prestige it once had. 
It is no longer about achievement on the field but image off it, the fact Lewandowski did not win it is shambolic enough, but honestly Messi has not been anywhere near the conversation for best player over the last 12 months. This win once again shows the award is actually a popularity contest, with sporting achievement only being secondary. He has got it based on Career achievements, accolades and performances, he hasnt even been the best player in France this year. The credibility of this awarding has not been on merits since 2019. It's now on personal affiliation, favoritism and personal preference.
Even Messi admits Robert Lewandowski deserves better. Rankings for Ballon D'or's Top 10 Players with their points have been released. Messi and Lewandowski both earned 613 and 580 points, respectively. Lewandowski lost by only 34 points. I'm not interested in discussing whether the awards show is corrupt or not. However, I feel sorry for Lewandowski. We should judge players by their real performances, not by winning a pointless trophy like the Copa America or any other unnecessary leagues that aren't worth watching.

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November 30, 2021, 09:54:07 AM
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Even Messi admits Robert Lewandowski deserves better. Rankings for Ballon D'or's Top 10 Players with their points have been released. Messi and Lewandowski both earned 613 and 580 points, respectively. Lewandowski lost by only 34 points. I'm not interested in discussing whether the awards show is corrupt or not. However, I feel sorry for Lewandowski. We should judge players by their real performances, not by winning a pointless trophy like the Copa America or any other unnecessary leagues that aren't worth watching.
Robert Lewandowski should keep playing good, his time will come, also Jorginho. To say the truth, they are both good player. I have posted on this thread to choose Lewandowski before because I wish him to win it and he truly deserves it. But I can not hide the fact that I am Messi's fan but I was surprised he won 2021 ballon d'or, all I was expecting was Lewandowski first and Messi second. But it was still a good news for me though.

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November 30, 2021, 10:23:18 AM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.

It kinda feels like Lewandowski can do what he wants and he still won't get the ballon d'or, i feel really sad for him. It somehow seems that the two biggest names of football (Messi and Ronaldo) always have an advantage over the other players. The election is done by journalists from all over the world and i would guess that journalists from small african or asian countries would always tend to give their vote for Ronaldo or Messi because they are just more popular in their countries and players like Lewandowski are probably still pretty unknown there. Even Messi himself said that he thinks that Lewandowski would have deserved it. Fairplay of him.
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November 30, 2021, 10:35:46 AM
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As predicted by me Messi is the winner.

I don't know if it is deserved this is controversial he is indeed the player with more quality in the world but other players got probably a better year.

If the purpose is to award the best player overall there is no doubt but if the purpose is to award the year of the player then we can have a lot of doubts.

Is it only a marketing award nowadays?

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November 30, 2021, 10:55:45 AM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.
once again congrats to messi who has won 7t times, the balloon de'or, maybe this is the last time messi gets the ballon de'or, actually i am very disappointed, because messi's performance this year is inconsistent, but he managed to get the award, actually i really hope mohammad got the Ballon de'or wrong, but what can I do?

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November 30, 2021, 11:08:52 AM
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Ballon d'or 2021 left me mixed feelings. I'm not saying that Messi didn't deserved to win it, I just feel sad for Lewandowski.
Messi scored a lot for Barca, but haven't won anything significant except Copa Del Rey. But win in Copa America was decisive factor.
Golden Ball wasn't given last year and Lewandowski was robbed in such way. This year he had amazing performance in Bundesliga, but fact that Bayern haven't won Champions league didn't helped him. He also scored 3 goals in EURO 2020, but it wasn't successful tournament for his team.
After all, Ballon d'or isn't just about personal performance, it's also popularity contest.
With any luck this will be the start of that stupid award losing the prestige it once had. 
It is no longer about achievement on the field but image off it, the fact Lewandowski did not win it is shambolic enough, but honestly Messi has not been anywhere near the conversation for best player over the last 12 months. This win once again shows the award is actually a popularity contest, with sporting achievement only being secondary. He has got it based on Career achievements, accolades and performances, he hasnt even been the best player in France this year. The credibility of this awarding has not been on merits since 2019. It's now on personal affiliation, favoritism and personal preference.
Even Messi admits Robert Lewandowski deserves better. Rankings for Ballon D'or's Top 10 Players with their points have been released. Messi and Lewandowski both earned 613 and 580 points, respectively. Lewandowski lost by only 34 points. I'm not interested in discussing whether the awards show is corrupt or not. However, I feel sorry for Lewandowski. We should judge players by their real performances, not by winning a pointless trophy like the Copa America or any other unnecessary leagues that aren't worth watching.
Majority of soccer fans across the world opinions is that
Lewandowski deserve the award, how come 180 Journalist elected Messi, on what criteria? is this decision not a biased?  is it because of being the best player in COPA America? I don't understand how he deserve this award, his form had dipped from last season till now and still struggling to find his feet with PSG in french league 1, while Lewandowski had been performing excellently for Bayern Munich for two seasons though Poland his home country had not done well in European tournament meanwhile Poland qualify for a play off in world cup qualifying match

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November 30, 2021, 11:19:05 AM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.
once again congrats to messi who has won 7t times, the balloon de'or, maybe this is the last time messi gets the ballon de'or, actually i am very disappointed, because messi's performance this year is inconsistent, but he managed to get the award, actually i really hope mohammad got the Ballon de'or wrong, but what can I do?
Lionel Messi is indeed the best player in the world right now, but to be honest I personally think that this year Lionel Messi doesn't deserve the Ballon d'Or because his performances at PSG have not shown his prowess as the best player in the world at the moment, I think actually Lewandowski is a player who is more deserving of the Ballon d'Or, because so far he has played quite consistently in the league and has also been able to lift the performance of Bayern Munich to a fairly high level.

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November 30, 2021, 12:07:25 PM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.
The award should be for Lewandowski because he is the only consistent player this year. Also from the achievements he got as the best FIFA player.
I admit that Messi's performance has not been good since joining PSG. Despite the time at Barcelona did not manage to win LaLiga, the individual and team achievements in the International League were quite good, such as winning the Copa America.

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November 30, 2021, 12:58:55 PM
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Messi deserved the award, congratulations. He had a great year, won Copa America with Argentina. Lewa also congratulated him, big sportsmanship.
Robert Lewandowski won striker of the year, so that's fair enough. I wish they gave 2020 award to him as well instead of cancel it.

It kinda feels like Lewandowski can do what he wants and he still won't get the ballon d'or, i feel really sad for him. It somehow seems that the two biggest names of football (Messi and Ronaldo) always have an advantage over the other players. The election is done by journalists from all over the world and i would guess that journalists from small african or asian countries would always tend to give their vote for Ronaldo or Messi because they are just more popular in their countries and players like Lewandowski are probably still pretty unknown there. Even Messi himself said that he thinks that Lewandowski would have deserved it. Fairplay of him.

If it was a fair play, then he should hand it over to him! Grin
To be honest, this was probably the last "Ballon D' Or" that Messi will get but still it's pretty "unfair" for Lewandowski. In any case, the best part for me from the awarding ceremony, was the reaction of Mbappe when he listen to his position... 😂😂😂


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November 30, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
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I don't understand why many people think Lewandowski deserved this year's Ballon d'Or. There is no doubt that he has played well all season. But in the overall performance of Messi and Lewandowski, Messi is definitely ahead. This is clearly seen. Lewandowski is worthy only if we think about the goal. But in the case of Ballon d'Or many more things are evaluated. Messi has 16 assists, Lewandowski has 8. Messi is also ahead in overall performance.

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November 30, 2021, 01:39:37 PM
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I don't understand why many people think Lewandowski deserved this year's Ballon d'Or. There is no doubt that he has played well all season. But in the overall performance of Messi and Lewandowski, Messi is definitely ahead. This is clearly seen. Lewandowski is worthy only if we think about the goal. But in the case of Ballon d'Or many more things are evaluated. Messi has 16 assists, Lewandowski has 8. Messi is also ahead in overall performance.

Ah I see, so because Messi as a midfielder plays more passes and has prepared more chances, he deserves to win the award? That's absolute nonsense. If you argue like that, a goalkeeper or defender could never win the Ballon d'or.

This vote has once again shown that it's not about crowning the best player of the year. Rather, Messi should be rewarded for winning the Copa America, the first time he has won a major title with the national team. The rest of the year was mixed by his standards. No big shine and no big titles with the club. If Messi is given the title even in such a weak year, why does the event even exist? Absolutely undeserved. But whatever, the Messi fanboys can celebrate again.


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November 30, 2021, 01:42:22 PM
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Even Messi said that this year Lewandoski deserved to have that title but apparently Messi still doesn't know who gives you this prize,they are journalists from France Football and since Messi is playing for Paris SG they thought to give the prize to Messi.

This is how the world works in general and I am a bit sorry for Lewandoski but I am fan of none of the contenders for this title as I am a fan of another team which none of these players play there,however objectively Lewandoski was to get the prize and this is not just my personal opinion but from what I have seen from social media a lot of other people think like this too.

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November 30, 2021, 01:54:01 PM
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Many football fans are disappointed with the current results of the Ballon D'or (except Messi fans maybe), because he did not make much of a contribution in Europe last season with barcelona. Barcelona failed in La Liga and only finished in 3rd place, in the UCL losing to PSG in the round of 16. Indeed, the most impressive thing about Messi is the trophy with Argentina, trophy that has been won by Messi for the first time with national team, and may be the only one trophy for him with Argentina.

Well, Vote has been closed, and Congratulations for Messi

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November 30, 2021, 03:03:18 PM
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Many football fans are disappointed with the current results of the Ballon D'or (except Messi fans maybe), because he did not make much of a contribution in Europe last season with barcelona. Barcelona failed in La Liga and only finished in 3rd place, in the UCL losing to PSG in the round of 16. Indeed, the most impressive thing about Messi is the trophy with Argentina, trophy that has been won by Messi for the first time with national team, and may be the only one trophy for him with Argentina.

Well, Vote has been closed, and Congratulations for Messi
Few statistics will always be blowing our mind, despite having impressive outcome Lewandowski lost the Ballon D'or again. Anyway, Lewandowski won the best striker award. Truly heart breaking seeing the Ballon D'or passing Robert Lewandowski every year. Better luck next time. Perhaps it's the greatest error of his life is playing in Messi time.
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now we know who was hiding behind the hoodie sweater - congratulations to Lionel Messi Cheesy



Robert Lewandowski is/was certainly disappointed but this will make him even stronger now and for next year he is one of the top favorites for this great trophy.

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November 30, 2021, 03:46:02 PM
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now we know who was hiding behind the hoodie sweater - congratulations to Lionel Messi Cheesy

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Robert Lewandowski is/was certainly disappointed but this will make him even stronger now and for next year he is one of the top favorites for this great trophy.
many media have highlighted the ballon d'Or winner voting this year and made speculation behind.  i also didn't think that Lewandowski didn't win the Ballon Dior this year, because Messi has been decided as the winner so we can only accept that decision, maybe next year will be a win for Lewandowski.

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Another shameful Ballon d'Or that left a dirty stain on the reputation of the organizers and Messi  Undecided
However, it is high time to get used to the fact that in any award where the winner is determined not in a sports fair competition, but there are political and commercial interests, there will be dirt and unfair results. The Ballon d'Or now makes even less sense than the Oscars, the meaning of which has been perverted by the demands of leftists and racists.

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November 30, 2021, 03:58:07 PM
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and here again are the respective points that the candidates (top 10) received from the 180 journalists:

1st. 613 points - Lionel Messi (psg/argentina)
2nd. 580 points - Robert Lewandowski (bayern munich/poland)
3rd. 460 points - Jorginho (fc chelsea/italy)
4th. 239 points - Karim Benzema (real madryt/france)
5th. 186 points - N'Golo Kante (fc chelsea/france)
6th. 178 points - Cristiano Ronaldo (manchester united/portugal)
7th. 121 points - Mohamed Salah (fc liverpool/egypt)
8th. 73 points - Kevin de Bruyne (manchester city/belgium)
9th. 58 points - Kylian Mbappe (psg/france)
10th. 36 points - Gianluigi Donnarumma (psg/italy)

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November 30, 2021, 04:13:38 PM
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and here again are the respective points that the candidates (top 10) received from the 180 journalists:

1st. 613 points - Lionel Messi (psg/argentina)
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9th. 58 points - Kylian Mbappe (psg/france)

Messi is 10 times cooler than Mbappe. Seems legit  Grin
I would like to see a diagram of the distribution of their votes when voting on the questions "2x2 =?" and "Is the Earth flat"? I think the results would be no less comical.
In general, this presentation was quite enchanting - in a few hours I saw on Twitter so many mocking memes from "grateful" football fans that I had not seen in a whole year.

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November 30, 2021, 04:15:44 PM
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Every since Messi plays the FIFA world cup junior category and they won, I have been a Leonel Messi fan from them, I have watched him as much as I could playing and winning individual award, never for once have I doubted Messi's ability and in all his individual winnings he had by far deserved it, up until now, honestly I don't now how Leonel Messi should win the Ballon d'or. Yes he was in the argentina team that one the copa america, but in all Copa america Messi had played in his Glory that is the one Messi wasn't the backbone of the team, it was a general team play to the last kick of that tournament, I really think lewandowski should have won this year's Ballon d'or.

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November 30, 2021, 04:55:48 PM
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Messi did not have a very good performance compared to previous years. But he was still one of the best players of this year.
Copa America was a very important cup for Argentina, thanks to Messi they managed to win 28 years later. I think he could get the award just for that Smiley
I'm sorry about Lewandowski too, he had a great year. He scored very good goals in the last two years, but it was not enough to win the award

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November 30, 2021, 04:58:00 PM
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Robert Lewandowski is/was certainly disappointed but this will make him even stronger now and for next year he is one of the top favorites for this great trophy.

He has to win it some time, surely. It's unlikely Messi will win it again next year, this year was all about the Copa America... he's not looking like the world's best player at PSG at the moment. And Ronaldo is the other perpetual winner... but he hasn't won since 2017 I think, and was only 6th this year, and is in a Man U team that is imploding.

Next time for Lewandowski?






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November 30, 2021, 07:42:33 PM
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The entire scenario and build up of things before this ballon d'or  was very unlike the rest, i mean since the start of this award, we have heard rumours of the results, that is the winner before the actual day. I saw constantly on the internet, leaked reports that Messi has won it and i think the leak was a method of observing the public's reaction and preparing our minds for the news so it doesn't come as a surprise or shock that he is winning it for the 7th time.

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November 30, 2021, 07:58:23 PM
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I don't understand why many people think Lewandowski deserved this year's Ballon d'Or.

Everyone know that Lewandowski was the clear winner last year if there was Ballon d'or last year so most people thought that he should have gotten his hand on it this year because of last year's performance as well. Even Messi acknowledged him, didnt you watch Messi's speech? Messi clearly admitted that Lewandowski deserved it last year

Well some people are just bored to see either Messi or Ronaldo win the Ballon d'or every year so yeah I dont really blame when people are expecting different name this time

And Ronaldo is the other perpetual winner... but he hasn't won since 2017 I think, and was only 6th this year, and is in a Man U team that is imploding.

This is the first time since 2011 that he wasnt in top three

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November 30, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
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Many people were upset about Lewandowski not getting it, which is understandable because dude had one of the best seasons ever and he broke Bundesliga goal scoring in a single season record as well so it is really understandable how he was seen as the winner by so many people. However I have to say, look at Messi and look at Barcelona right now.

As soon as Messi left, Barcelona became a team that crumbled under pressure and started to be a mid table team, sure they could still recover but they are so much worse right now compared to when he played. Messi kept that team in championship contention up until very end weeks of the season and we get to see how incredible that was after he left. Lewandowski is great and all, but I doubt Bayern would become a horrible team if he leaves. That was the difference in voting I believe and that is why Messi won.
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November 30, 2021, 11:31:34 PM
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I also do think so. Actually we have known how lewandowski really plays very greatly, able to give big things to the club, and also gets so much attention.
Many people may be also quite bored about the domination of Messi in this very precious reward.
But once more, Messy exactly still bring very positive and also grrat influence to certain teams. He still becomes favorite in many cases.and how he gives ibfluence in Barcelona and also in his new team are still considered better than others.

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December 01, 2021, 06:57:06 AM
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many media have highlighted the ballon d'Or winner voting this year and made speculation behind.  i also didn't think that Lewandowski didn't win the Ballon Dior this year, because Messi has been decided as the winner so we can only accept that decision, maybe next year will be a win for Lewandowski.
Yes, Messi has won this year 2021 Ballon d'or which makes it the seventh one won by him and the best player of all time for now, I also which Lewandowski to be the winner but also pleased with Messi been the winner. The winner was not choosen, the winner was voted for, this makes the whole thing not to be biased as some people are thinking.

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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.

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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.
Jorginho have many trophies than Messi but always Ballon D'or dominance by player forward player position only, just Modric destroy dominance Messi and Ronaldo then back again to Messi as best player on Ballon D'or. Congratulation Lionel Messi have collected more than 7 Ballon D'or right now and have chance to get more if active and can play well on Ligue 1 and champion league.

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December 01, 2021, 01:31:17 PM
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Thomas Muller's statement about the Ballon d'Or 2021 award was written on Linkedin.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/esmuellert_motivation-ballondor-lewandowski-activity-6871530282026053633-AAhc

From that long angle it is clear that Thomas Muller was a little disappointed with the awarding of the Ballon d'Or yesterday and it is indeed an incident in the past that is repeating itself, but Muller still congratulates Lionel Messi even though he thinks it is Lewandowski who deserves it, but he will prove it in the future will win the UCL this season and even this week facing Barcelona will be an interesting game according to him.
Muller can prove with Bayern Munich.

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December 01, 2021, 02:16:54 PM
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many media have highlighted the ballon d'Or winner voting this year and made speculation behind.  i also didn't think that Lewandowski didn't win the Ballon Dior this year, because Messi has been decided as the winner so we can only accept that decision, maybe next year will be a win for Lewandowski.
Yes, Messi has won this year 2021 Ballon d'or which makes it the seventh one won by him and the best player of all time for now, I also which Lewandowski to be the winner but also pleased with Messi been the winner. The winner was not choosen, the winner was voted for, this makes the whole thing not to be biased as some people are thinking.
a lot of controversy is rolling now after messi received this award. Not without reason because some people think this is unreasonable because they think Lewa is still better than Messi last season.
At least there are some well-known soccer players who speak up about this and think it's unfair.

On the other hand, Lewa also received an award in the form of Striker of the Year. However, it seems that the trophy was given nothing more than a remedy for disappointment.

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December 01, 2021, 02:44:25 PM
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many media have highlighted the ballon d'Or winner voting this year and made speculation behind.  i also didn't think that Lewandowski didn't win the Ballon Dior this year, because Messi has been decided as the winner so we can only accept that decision, maybe next year will be a win for Lewandowski.
Yes, Messi has won this year 2021 Ballon d'or which makes it the seventh one won by him and the best player of all time for now, I also which Lewandowski to be the winner but also pleased with Messi been the winner. The winner was not choosen, the winner was voted for, this makes the whole thing not to be biased as some people are thinking.
a lot of controversy is rolling now after messi received this award. Not without reason because some people think this is unreasonable because they think Lewa is still better than Messi last season.
At least there are some well-known soccer players who speak up about this and think it's unfair.

On the other hand, Lewa also received an award in the form of Striker of the Year. However, it seems that the trophy was given nothing more than a remedy for disappointment.
I don't think Lewa is better than Messi but I prefer with player success get champion league on his club or get EURO 2020 trophy for his country, I think Kante is most relevant player to be winner Ballon D'or because success give champion league trophy for Chelsea and almost Ballon D'or before have character with champion league trophy get by some player.

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December 01, 2021, 03:18:31 PM
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Thomas Muller's statement about the Ballon d'Or 2021 award was written on Linkedin.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/esmuellert_motivation-ballondor-lewandowski-activity-6871530282026053633-AAhc

From that long angle it is clear that Thomas Muller was a little disappointed with the awarding of the Ballon d'Or yesterday and it is indeed an incident in the past that is repeating itself, but Muller still congratulates Lionel Messi even though he thinks it is Lewandowski who deserves it, but he will prove it in the future will win the UCL this season and even this week facing Barcelona will be an interesting game according to him.
Muller can prove with Bayern Munich.

Well, we all know that it is a little unfortunate for Lewandowski because even Messi said that Levandowski was the actual winner of the Ballon d'Or. I think that when the winter says something like this then the rotary must have done something wrong, to be honest.

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December 01, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
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Congratulations to Messi for winning the Ballon d'or again! But I'm not sure if he really earned the prize this time. If the assesment scope includes the last season too, then I wouldn't be uncomfortable with it much. Because even though Barcelona were not too good, Messi was still great and had great stats. I guess that it includes the last season also otherwise it would be really weird to select Messi while there are more deserving players like Lewandowski for example.
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Well, we all know that it is a little unfortunate for Lewandowski because even Messi said that Levandowski was the actual winner of the Ballon d'Or. I think that when the winter says something like this then the rotary must have done something wrong, to be honest.

Messi said that Lewandowski would have been the winner in 2020, when it was cancelled. Messi won it in 2021.
France Football obviously know this is contentious, because they gave Lewandowski the special new award 'Striker of the Year'.
If you have to create a special award for someone who hasn't won, then there is something wrong.

What they should have done is either:
a) base the 2021 award on performance across both 2020 and 2021, or
b) award a 2020 prize as well.

If they are going to give Lewandowski the Striker of the Year award, they are doing so because he was the best player in 2020 but didn't get a Ballon D'Or for it. 'Striker of the Year' is 'Ballon D'Or 2020' in all but name.

It seems to me that instead of Striker of the Year, they should have given him the 2020 Ballon D'Or retrospectively, and then let Messi keep the 2021 award.
That way both players get the awards, Lewandowski gets recognition for his 2020 performances, and probably France Football gets loads of praise and extra publicity for giving out two awards.






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December 01, 2021, 04:40:57 PM
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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.

Yes, I think that is a big reason why Lewandowski was not given the Ballon d'Or and as Lionel Messi has a big achievement with his national team I think that's what counted Much in this matter. But it is honestly undoubtedly true that Lewandowski is the most prolific striker in the world right now. Even Messi has said that Lewandowski deserved the Ballon d'Or.

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December 01, 2021, 05:12:44 PM
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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.
However at best team success should be a small contribution in order to decide who will win the trophy of the best player around the world, after all those are team achievements and not individual achievements, when we look only at individual achievements there were many players that deserved to get the trophy besides Messi, so while I understand why Messi got the award that does not mean that I agree with it at all.
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Messi said that Lewandowski would have been the winner in 2020, when it was cancelled. Messi won it in 2021.
France Football obviously know this is contentious, because they gave Lewandowski the special new award 'Striker of the Year'.
If you have to create a special award for someone who hasn't won, then there is something wrong.

Even messi knows he will lose when this is held in 2020 because that year Lewandowski was really crazy and actually this was a loss for Lewandowski.
But everything has happened because the postponement of the ballon d'or event was postponed, not because of one party's desire but perhaps from several perspectives.
apart from that it is Messi who has now won and it has been announced that everyone can't change this

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December 01, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
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However at best team success should be a small contribution in order to decide who will win the trophy of the best player around the world, after all those are team achievements and not individual achievements, when we look only at individual achievements there were many players that deserved to get the trophy besides Messi, so while I understand why Messi got the award that does not mean that I agree with it at all.
This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.

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December 01, 2021, 08:04:57 PM
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I don't understand why many people think Lewandowski deserved this year's Ballon d'Or. There is no doubt that he has played well all season. But in the overall performance of Messi and Lewandowski, Messi is definitely ahead. This is clearly seen. Lewandowski is worthy only if we think about the goal. But in the case of Ballon d'Or many more things are evaluated. Messi has 16 assists, Lewandowski has 8. Messi is also ahead in overall performance.

It depends if the Ballon d'Or is a reward for the best player or for the best season of a player.

From what you are saying then the Ballon d'Or won by Modric in 2018 was a robbery to Cr7 since Cristiano scored like 50 goals and won everything like Modric did, plus 40 goals.

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December 01, 2021, 08:22:41 PM
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Thomas Muller's statement about the Ballon d'Or 2021 award was written on Linkedin.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/esmuellert_motivation-ballondor-lewandowski-activity-6871530282026053633-AAhc

From that long angle it is clear that Thomas Muller was a little disappointed with the awarding of the Ballon d'Or yesterday and it is indeed an incident in the past that is repeating itself, but Muller still congratulates Lionel Messi even though he thinks it is Lewandowski who deserves it, but he will prove it in the future will win the UCL this season and even this week facing Barcelona will be an interesting game according to him.
Muller can prove with Bayern Munich.

The awarding of the FIFA ballon d'Or by UEFA yesterday really made Mita's public eyes astonished with all the controversies that existed where Lionel Messi managed to get his 7th ballon d'Or title where he beat Robert Lewandowski as the main competitor as the world's best player. 2021, we really regret what UEFA has done with the appointment of Messi as the winner of the FIFA Ballon d'Or this season. In fact, it still deserves to be given to Robert Lewandowski for his contribution on the pitch with Bayern Munich this season, while for Messi himself he only brought Argentina the Copa title. America for other achievements has not been able to see the contribution that Messi has made to PSG, of course all are very disappointed with the appointment of Messi as the winner of the FIFA Ballon d'Or this season.

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December 01, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
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There has still been some arguments about whether Messi deserved winning Ballon d'or or Ronaldo deserved it more. But Messi still won it in the end and it is the most important point here. Messi won it two times in a row. And in total, Messi has won 7 times and Ronaldo follows him by 5 times. As they may not play like in the old days anymore, it might be hard to see any of them winning it even for once from now on. So maybe some time later, a different player would break the record and I'm sure that it will happen.

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December 01, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
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This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.
That is a legit point, almost all the winners are strikers. The problem is that it is hard to quantify how a defender helped during a match and how many balls he was able to tackle from the opponent but the number of goals scored will be always remembered.

If the award winner was selected earlier Robert Lewandowski would be the winner and the award board should have given to him because Messi already won them multiple times and for the longest time Messi and CR7 is sharing the trophy for years.
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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.
I am not entirely sure if becoming champions with your national team is enough, you need to also do it with a team that wasn't expected or hasn't won it in a long time. Like when was the last time Argentina won it? Or Italy? So, both of those teams were in a big break and suddenly they are doing much better thanks to their good players.

Messi has been playing for so long and I believe it is his first time right? Plus stats are very important and I agree that Lewandowski had one of the best stats ever but the reality is that we are talking about assists as well, put in everything from every game and Messi has less goals but his goal+assist ratio looks insane plus he won so many more things with his teams. All in all I believe that Messi was a good decision, yes they could have given it to Lewa because Messi already has so many and Lewa may never get it again, but I believe they didn't want to do injustice to an amazing year Messi had.

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December 01, 2021, 10:17:48 PM
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This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.
That is a legit point, almost all the winners are strikers. The problem is that it is hard to quantify how a defender helped during a match and how many balls he was able to tackle from the opponent but the number of goals scored will be always remembered.

If the award winner was selected earlier Robert Lewandowski would be the winner and the award board should have given to him because Messi already won them multiple times and for the longest time Messi and CR7 is sharing the trophy for years.
I think that given the fact that computing resources are becoming cheaper and AI is solving ever wider types of problems, plus the fact that all matches in modern football remain recorded on video, we hope that soon we will get an impartial assessment of who was how strong in football. I think the results will surprise a lot of people and there will definitely not be these comic balls that are handed out for business/PR reasons, not facts.

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This award has long been discredited, I think few professionals or even just those who are fond of watching football take it seriously. This is part of marketing, politics - it has nothing to do with objectivity. If you look at the winners, you might think that in football there are practically no great defenders or goalkeepers - almost all the awards are taken by the strikers.
That is a legit point, almost all the winners are strikers. The problem is that it is hard to quantify how a defender helped during a match and how many balls he was able to tackle from the opponent but the number of goals scored will be always remembered.

If the award winner was selected earlier Robert Lewandowski would be the winner and the award board should have given to him because Messi already won them multiple times and for the longest time Messi and CR7 is sharing the trophy for years.

I believe that this award is almost exclusively for attackers.

Not wanting to belittle other attackers, but the correct thing would be to have exclusive prize classes for goalkeeper, defender, attacker, etc.
It would be the most correct and fair with everyone, as each category would have its own scoring criteria.

As for favoring one or the other player, this could easily be eliminated with a purely critical analysis of the data (nr of correct passes, goals scored, assists, fouls, etc. and that's all) without analyzing subjective characteristics.

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There has still been some arguments about whether Messi deserved winning Ballon d'or or Ronaldo deserved it more. But Messi still won it in the end and it is the most important point here. Messi won it two times in a row. And in total, Messi has won 7 times and Ronaldo follows him by 5 times. As they may not play like in the old days anymore, it might be hard to see any of them winning it even for once from now on. So maybe some time later, a different player would break the record and I'm sure that it will happen.
For the tittle that Messi won which is the Ballon d'or,he really deserves it more than anybody.Looking at his individual performance,he really deserves the tittle than Lewandowski,Kante,Jorginho and so on.
 Messi has won the tittle two times more than Ronaldo now,thereby showing his supremacy over Ronaldo.
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December 02, 2021, 10:54:40 AM
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There has still been some arguments about whether Messi deserved winning Ballon d'or or Ronaldo deserved it more. But Messi still won it in the end and it is the most important point here. Messi won it two times in a row. And in total, Messi has won 7 times and Ronaldo follows him by 5 times. As they may not play like in the old days anymore, it might be hard to see any of them winning it even for once from now on. So maybe some time later, a different player would break the record and I'm sure that it will happen.
For the tittle that Messi won which is the Ballon d'or,he really deserves it more than anybody.Looking at his individual performance,he really deserves the tittle than Lewandowski,Kante,Jorginho and so on.
 Messi has won the tittle two times more than Ronaldo now,thereby showing his supremacy over Ronaldo.

Well, the debate should be over now and it as Messi has won it I don't think that anything will change this now. Even though I do agree that Lewandowski was really good
And about having supremacy over Ronaldo we all can agree that Messi and Ronaldo both play differently. And Messi can do certain things that maybe Ronaldo isn't comfortable with and vice versa.

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December 02, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.

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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.

The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin

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Huge disappointment in Poland and looking for any light in tunnel, like that:
https://www.watson.de/sport/exklusiv/361360476-aufregung-um-messi-ballon-d-or-chef-stimmte-fuer-lewandowski-und-macht-hoffnung
So, still hope that France Football will give him prize for 2020, especially after Messi told loudly he supports that idea.

Personally I think it is one more popularity contest.
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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.

The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin

Well, those years were dominated by two special individuals, Lionel Messi, and Cristiano Ronaldo. They were the two best players in the world and in my opinion, are still now. Some will say Messi is better than Ronaldo and the others will say Ronaldo is better than Messi. But we all know that there are two goats of football.



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December 02, 2021, 05:38:22 PM
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Huge disappointment in Poland and looking for any light in tunnel, like that:
https://www.watson.de/sport/exklusiv/361360476-aufregung-um-messi-ballon-d-or-chef-stimmte-fuer-lewandowski-und-macht-hoffnung
So, still hope that France Football will give him prize for 2020, especially after Messi told loudly he supports that idea.

Personally I think it is one more popularity contest.
Awards like this are always a popularity contest, however even if more factors are taken into account it is obvious that the name of Messi had a huge influence on the end result.

However it is also possible this was done on purpose to stir controversy about this award, and by causing this polemic the ones behind the Ballon d'or hope their award could become even more popular and they could retain their relevancy, after all award or no award the best players remain that way for the public, so it s not like we need someone to tell us who can play soccer and who cannot, as we can tell the difference with our own eyes.

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The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin

Well, those years were dominated by two special individuals, Lionel Messi, and Cristiano Ronaldo. They were the two best players in the world and in my opinion, are still now. Some will say Messi is better than Ronaldo and the others will say Ronaldo is better than Messi. But we all know that there are two goats of football.

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.

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December 02, 2021, 07:17:41 PM
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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.

So why Modric win over CR7 in 2018?

If you looking over goals Modric robbed CR7 3 years ago.

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I guess that Messi won the 2021 ballon d'or only because he won Copa America with Argentina.
Wining a trophy with your national team is a big reason for winning ballon d'or.That's why Jorginho was voted on the third place,because Italy won Euro 2020.Chelsea won the 2021 Champions league,but I'm not sure about Jorginho's contribution to this achievement.
Lewandonwski is the greatest striker in the world right now,but he didn't won the Champions League with Bayern or the European trophy with Poland.Winning the Bundesliga with Bayern isn't such a big achievement,since Bayern is doing this every year.
I am not entirely sure if becoming champions with your national team is enough, you need to also do it with a team that wasn't expected or hasn't won it in a long time. Like when was the last time Argentina won it? Or Italy? So, both of those teams were in a big break and suddenly they are doing much better thanks to their good players.

Messi has been playing for so long and I believe it is his first time right? Plus stats are very important and I agree that Lewandowski had one of the best stats ever but the reality is that we are talking about assists as well, put in everything from every game and Messi has less goals but his goal+assist ratio looks insane plus he won so many more things with his teams. All in all I believe that Messi was a good decision, yes they could have given it to Lewa because Messi already has so many and Lewa may never get it again, but I believe they didn't want to do injustice to an amazing year Messi had.
Lewandowski is suppose to have won the best player,but the period fell during Corona Virus where they paused football for some while to avoid close contact with people. He was the most favourite to win that tittle that time.

We won't be surprise if the world best will no longer Messi and Ronaldo,because they have really dominated football for so long and they need to give a way to the guy's lads coming up.
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December 03, 2021, 02:38:08 AM
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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.
Personally, in my opinion, Messi doesn't deserve the de'or balloon award, because there are still many other players who are better than Messi and get lots of trophies, either the league cup or the champions league cup, like Kante who won the champions league cup, and the league cup, and Lewdosky who played well and was able to bring home the league cup, that's why there was a lot of debate and many people doubted fifa for giving the de'or balloon to messi..
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December 03, 2021, 02:46:20 AM
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People are discussing whether Messi really deserved to win this prize. But I believe that he deserved to win the prize thanks to his great performance in the last season. He scored 38 goals and made 18 assists in 48 games. For a player who is 34 years old now, it is a really big achievement I think. And he is not just an ordinary player who has this kind of a season only once in a few years. He was always this good and he is a legend already.
The debate will continue until the end of this year, because everyone still doesn't believe it and is unsure, fifa gave a de'or balloon to messi, because considering messi's inconsistent performance this year, but if fifa gave a de'or balloon to kante, lowdoski, or muhammad is wrong, I'm sure there will be no debate, because their performance has always been stable until now..

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Did Messi really deserve Ballon d'or? I think, yes. He totally deserved it if we take the last season into account also. He got fabulous statistics then and he did everything to carry his team as much as possible to a better level. But was he the only one who deserved it? Of course, not. Honestly I was thinking of the possibility that Robert Lewandowski would win it too.

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Or people are tired of having "one hero", situation similar to F1. Hamilton's domination became boring and predictable, Verstappen maybe is not the kind of person you instantly like, but he is a great opponent and warrior. And many people support him because he guarantees fight and good racing against Mercedes.
Situation in 2020 was really strange, because the whole season was as much impacted by covid as some people stated and Lewandowski was obvious number 1 for the prize - but then it would break Messi's domination...
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The players of the Spanish national team won the European Championship in 2008, then the World Championship in 2010, then again the European Championship in 2012, becoming living legends ... now check who received the Ballon d'Or in those years  Wink
I can give you a hint - someone who failed the 2010 World Cup and then failed the 2011 America's Cup  Grin

Well, those years were dominated by two special individuals, Lionel Messi, and Cristiano Ronaldo. They were the two best players in the world and in my opinion, are still now. Some will say Messi is better than Ronaldo and the others will say Ronaldo is better than Messi. But we all know that there are two goats of football.

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.
because everyone has their own era and only certain people will know about it in a few years Cheesy
On the other hand, we all know that things like this are constantly changing and will remain that way because that is a cycle that will always happen.
Everyone has their own era and the fans have their own way of appreciating it.

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Or people are tired of having "one hero", situation similar to F1. Hamilton's domination became boring and predictable, Verstappen maybe is not the kind of person you instantly like, but he is a great opponent and warrior. And many people support him because he guarantees fight and good racing against Mercedes.
Situation in 2020 was really strange, because the whole season was as much impacted by covid as some people stated and Lewandowski was obvious number 1 for the prize - but then it would break Messi's domination...

You have a very strange analogy - you can overtake Hamilton in the race and take first place. If we take your analogy, then it should be like this: Hamilton arrives 5th, but he is always awarded the championship. That would be a little weird, wouldn't it?

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.
because everyone has their own era and only certain people will know about it in a few years Cheesy
On the other hand, we all know that things like this are constantly changing and will remain that way because that is a cycle that will always happen.
Everyone has their own era and the fans have their own way of appreciating it.

Thanks to the organizers of the Ballon d'Or and Messi, Xavi and Iniesta never had their era. They are nonames right now. This is a real tragedy.

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December 03, 2021, 03:28:36 PM
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Or people are tired of having "one hero", situation similar to F1. Hamilton's domination became boring and predictable, Verstappen maybe is not the kind of person you instantly like, but he is a great opponent and warrior. And many people support him because he guarantees fight and good racing against Mercedes.
Situation in 2020 was really strange, because the whole season was as much impacted by covid as some people stated and Lewandowski was obvious number 1 for the prize - but then it would break Messi's domination...

You have a very strange analogy - you can overtake Hamilton in the race and take first place. If we take your analogy, then it should be like this: Hamilton arrives 5th, but he is always awarded the championship. That would be a little weird, wouldn't it?

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.
because everyone has their own era and only certain people will know about it in a few years Cheesy
On the other hand, we all know that things like this are constantly changing and will remain that way because that is a cycle that will always happen.
Everyone has their own era and the fans have their own way of appreciating it.

Thanks to the organizers of the Ballon d'Or and Messi, Xavi and Iniesta never had their era. They are nonames right now. This is a real tragedy.

Formula 1 is a very bad analogy indeed. Not only because of the way KTChampions outlined, but also because there is no subjective vote involved at all (ignoring some decisions by the FIA of course). Formula 1 is just objective. You either drive faster than your opponent or you don't. Tennis the same, even darts. These awards like the Ballon dor are difficult. It is also difficult in bodybuilding where you have millions of different opinions often times as it is not always the "biggest" guy who wins, but these days it is the "most aesthetic". Yeah, there you go, what is aesthetic?

I guess from an objective point of view, Messi was one of the best three scorers (I think number 2 with 35 scorer points) and he won the Copa America. I assume that was enough for the journalists to say Messi is going to win it. I do agree that Messi wasn't at his best, but I would still say he is the best player this planet has ever seen.

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December 03, 2021, 03:34:49 PM
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Or people are tired of having "one hero", situation similar to F1. Hamilton's domination became boring and predictable, Verstappen maybe is not the kind of person you instantly like, but he is a great opponent and warrior. And many people support him because he guarantees fight and good racing against Mercedes.
Situation in 2020 was really strange, because the whole season was as much impacted by covid as some people stated and Lewandowski was obvious number 1 for the prize - but then it would break Messi's domination...

You have a very strange analogy - you can overtake Hamilton in the race and take first place. If we take your analogy, then it should be like this: Hamilton arrives 5th, but he is always awarded the championship. That would be a little weird, wouldn't it?

This is how young people will think (though they are already thinking) in 10 years. And no one will remember those who really dominated - Xavi, Iniesta and company. Who are Xavi and Iniesta in terms of history? They are nonames whose names will be remembered only by specialists. And this situation has developed due to the actions of the organizers of this wretched award.
because everyone has their own era and only certain people will know about it in a few years Cheesy
On the other hand, we all know that things like this are constantly changing and will remain that way because that is a cycle that will always happen.
Everyone has their own era and the fans have their own way of appreciating it.

Thanks to the organizers of the Ballon d'Or and Messi, Xavi and Iniesta never had their era. They are nonames right now. This is a real tragedy.

Formula 1 is a very bad analogy indeed. Not only because of the way KTChampions outlined, but also because there is no subjective vote involved at all (ignoring some decisions by the FIA of course). Formula 1 is just objective. You either drive faster than your opponent or you don't. Tennis the same, even darts. These awards like the Ballon dor are difficult. It is also difficult in bodybuilding where you have millions of different opinions often times as it is not always the "biggest" guy who wins, but these days it is the "most aesthetic". Yeah, there you go, what is aesthetic?

I guess from an objective point of view, Messi was one of the best three scorers (I think number 2 with 35 scorer points) and he won the Copa America. I assume that was enough for the journalists to say Messi is going to win it. I do agree that Messi wasn't at his best, but I would still say he is the best player this planet has ever seen.

To all those saying Lewa deserved it. It's like you have forgotten that Lewa only tremendously in 2020 but for 2021, it's a combination of both club and Country performances. Lewa only won his German league and its other cups but lost the ucl. Messi also won copa dey rey and lost ucl. Then comes country's performance, that were Messi beat Lewa hands down. All Messi haters should only pray that Lewa is awarded for his 2020 performance.

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December 03, 2021, 03:55:48 PM
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All Messi haters should only pray that Lewa is awarded for his 2020 performance.

"Haters" is too strong word...

On the other hand, if Nobel prize for literature was awarded with a delay (in 2019 they gave prize for 2019&2018), then why not do the same with Ballon d'Or.

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December 03, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
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Many people think that Lionel Messi does not deserve to win the Ballon d'Or this year, and many speculate that the award does not seem to have the transparency in determining who deserves the Ballon d'Or, at first I also really wanted to see if Lewandowski this year would be able to get the award, but after I read some comparisons between lewandowski and messi, so I think right now messi deserves it.


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December 03, 2021, 05:13:32 PM
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many media have highlighted the ballon d'Or winner voting this year and made speculation behind.  i also didn't think that Lewandowski didn't win the Ballon Dior this year, because Messi has been decided as the winner so we can only accept that decision, maybe next year will be a win for Lewandowski.
Yes, Messi has won this year 2021 Ballon d'or which makes it the seventh one won by him and the best player of all time for now, I also which Lewandowski to be the winner but also pleased with Messi been the winner. The winner was not choosen, the winner was voted for, this makes the whole thing not to be biased as some people are thinking.
a lot of controversy is rolling now after messi received this award. Not without reason because some people think this is unreasonable because they think Lewa is still better than Messi last season.
At least there are some well-known soccer players who speak up about this and think it's unfair.

On the other hand, Lewa also received an award in the form of Striker of the Year. However, it seems that the trophy was given nothing more than a remedy for disappointment.
I don't think Lewa is better than Messi but I prefer with player success get champion league on his club or get EURO 2020 trophy for his country, I think Kante is most relevant player to be winner Ballon D'or because success give champion league trophy for Chelsea and almost Ballon D'or before have character with champion league trophy get by some player.
When talking to Kante, of course, I agree on this, because from the very beginning I created this thread.
I never doubted the prowess he had, but Kante was so humble that he was indeed a candidate but not superior to the judges.
But he still impressed me even though he wasn't a strong candidate

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