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That's the reality, it's always "the house always wins", you cannot eliminate that as they are into business to make profit, but why would you try to beat the house if you can gamble against an online poker where you believe you can win? that's insane. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The house always win - this is true generally, but anyone can win. If no one wins the house - noone will gamble, but as we see - gamblers still gambles. But you have be accurate if you want to win, a man can miss your mistake but program - will not miss. House always Win if we don't know how to control our gambling activities , the more we play is the more the gambling table wins . But try limiting your playing? put only small amount to play and when you lose best to stop and try again another day. I have done this before and i know that I am winning against the site now.
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November 08, 2021, 01:39:45 PM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
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November 09, 2021, 07:41:50 AM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
I don`t think that percentage will be more than profit. In this case it makes no sense to play against the house and no one will play. Surely you play rake but it can`t be more then maximum profit you can get from the game. But as we discussed before - the profit is too small to try to get it. And pvp playing of course more interesting.
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November 09, 2021, 08:13:28 AM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
e can beat House of course , but the thing here is that how many times we can beat the house than beating us? that is the problem meaning in every 10 losses we can only win 1-2 times. maybe it is normal to wish taking all the funds from the house but at least never dig deeper into this just look for chances sometimes and if not then give up and try the next time.
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November 09, 2021, 08:03:08 PM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
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November 10, 2021, 01:38:46 PM |
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Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
I think that you can find online casino or poker room with players who`s skill will be at least not higher then yours own. But the most interesting game is when you`re winning powerful opponents as for me. In such wins you usually getting good profit and good moon. In easy games you can get profit, but mostly it will be less then your normal profit, and surely it will not be fun.
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Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
I think that you can find online casino or poker room with players who`s skill will be at least not higher then yours own. But the most interesting game is when you`re winning powerful opponents as for me. In such wins you usually getting good profit and good moon. In easy games you can get profit, but mostly it will be less then your normal profit, and surely it will not be fun. The trouble with these smaller and niche poker rooms (e.g. cryptocurrency only) is that they tend to be dominated by sharks. When you're on somewhere like pokerstars there are thousands, if not tends of thousands of players, and lots of new fish sign up each day to leak cash. This keeps the sharks fed while the fish either learn the game over time or drop off. However if you are looking at somewhere like swc where there might be 150 players online, who are spread across different buy-in tables, you'll find that they often know every single player there and how they rank against them. New fish are rare - so they get targeted and wiped out very quickly, which leaves you with a constant low amount of players. It's hard to see a crypto poker site doing well unless we have much wider adoption or a single site throws so much money into advertising they can reach a "critical mass" which draws in a sustainable amount of players (like having at least 1,000 online at any one time)
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November 10, 2021, 11:31:04 PM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
e can beat House of course , but the thing here is that how many times we can beat the house than beating us? that is the problem meaning in every 10 losses we can only win 1-2 times. maybe it is normal to wish taking all the funds from the house but at least never dig deeper into this just look for chances sometimes and if not then give up and try the next time. Well if this is the outcome of my gameplay, I will definitely stop and take a break because you are always in a loss position how can you survive if you are always in a long losses streak. It is totally different when you play poker online and in poker in a real casino, the chances of online casino are based on your luck but in the real casino is perhaps you will win if you know bluffing your opponents which is others also do that now. It is hard to chase losses, so it is advisable to take a break and come back soon when your mind has been relaxed. In all card games, a poker game is very interesting among them all either online or in a real casino are almost the same, if you are a shy type gambler, choose the online casino.
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Don't try to beat the house, you just play as much as you enjoy and win some and as well as expect loses too. Because if you try to beat the house, you're the one that's going to be beaten and you don't really do that.
And if you're too much concerned about the rake of the house, try to look for other house that you think is justifiable with their rake and you're satistied with it. Because having that mentality won't stop you from complaining.
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November 11, 2021, 02:41:02 AM |
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You can win but if you want to beat the house its never possible because the room will take certain percentage as commission from each hand but they are not investing anything since poker is pvp not player vs house unless its blackjack. Rake fee is literally less in the online casinos so say thanks to the crypto casinos instead of trying to win them since you have to pay a lot and lot other expenses if you are going to an offline casino...
Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them. In 2021, online casinos are flooded with gamblers than the physical casinos because even who never thought about going to a physical casino is even playing at online due to the convenience they get so the rewards are enough to be honest but its a game will deceive everyone in the long run so its a game that can beat everyone when they are making more bets so the houses are making more money.
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Am not really a fan of poker game's but I play it sometimes just for fun and not on a long term base such as you have. The fact still remains that the house edge will always supersede players winning the computer is program that way.
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November 11, 2021, 05:02:25 AM |
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Am not really a fan of poker game's but I play it sometimes just for fun and not on a long term base such as you have. The fact still remains that the house edge will always supersede players winning the computer is program that way.
Well, it is too difficult to beat the house, even if you are a pro poker player but that will not be impossible. Besides having your skills, you need to have the luck to beat the house but we do not know how much money we should wager before we can beat the house. It is better just to play poker without thinking about the win because I think who knows, that we can beat them someday.
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November 11, 2021, 05:20:27 AM |
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Am not really a fan of poker game's but I play it sometimes just for fun and not on a long term base such as you have. The fact still remains that the house edge will always supersede players winning the computer is program that way.
Well, it is too difficult to beat the house, even if you are a pro poker player but that will not be impossible. Besides having your skills, you need to have the luck to beat the house but we do not know how much money we should wager before we can beat the house. It is better just to play poker without thinking about the win because I think who knows, that we can beat them someday. This house edge is only a problem for small size table since this is a slow phase game and every is expected to play slowly without doing a high preflop bet. But on a high roller table, House is not a problem at all since its just a percentage on the pot. I don't know what's big deal on here even on normal poker table, There's a fee on every pot except free roll poker. I'm not pro in poker but house edge is a must for this type of game since it is a person to person game. Casino is not a charity for having a free table and dealer for the game.
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November 11, 2021, 06:09:51 AM |
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Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
I think that you can find online casino or poker room with players who`s skill will be at least not higher then yours own. But the most interesting game is when you`re winning powerful opponents as for me. In such wins you usually getting good profit and good moon. In easy games you can get profit, but mostly it will be less then your normal profit, and surely it will not be fun. The trouble with these smaller and niche poker rooms (e.g. cryptocurrency only) is that they tend to be dominated by sharks. When you're on somewhere like pokerstars there are thousands, if not tends of thousands of players, and lots of new fish sign up each day to leak cash. This keeps the sharks fed while the fish either learn the game over time or drop off. However if you are looking at somewhere like swc where there might be 150 players online, who are spread across different buy-in tables, you'll find that they often know every single player there and how they rank against them. New fish are rare - so they get targeted and wiped out very quickly, which leaves you with a constant low amount of players. It's hard to see a crypto poker site doing well unless we have much wider adoption or a single site throws so much money into advertising they can reach a "critical mass" which draws in a sustainable amount of players (like having at least 1,000 online at any one time) Yes, this is possible situation, but i don`t see any other choice to play online cryptocasino and win some money. The main problem is that cryptocurrencies are not enough popular yet. That`s why we don`t see enough players and casinos, and there is no some decision except waiting for more players. But the same time - the most skilled players don`t play in such casinos.
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Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
I think that you can find online casino or poker room with players who`s skill will be at least not higher then yours own. But the most interesting game is when you`re winning powerful opponents as for me. In such wins you usually getting good profit and good moon. In easy games you can get profit, but mostly it will be less then your normal profit, and surely it will not be fun. The trouble with these smaller and niche poker rooms (e.g. cryptocurrency only) is that they tend to be dominated by sharks. When you're on somewhere like pokerstars there are thousands, if not tends of thousands of players, and lots of new fish sign up each day to leak cash. This keeps the sharks fed while the fish either learn the game over time or drop off. However if you are looking at somewhere like swc where there might be 150 players online, who are spread across different buy-in tables, you'll find that they often know every single player there and how they rank against them. New fish are rare - so they get targeted and wiped out very quickly, which leaves you with a constant low amount of players. It's hard to see a crypto poker site doing well unless we have much wider adoption or a single site throws so much money into advertising they can reach a "critical mass" which draws in a sustainable amount of players (like having at least 1,000 online at any one time) Exactly, poker is a zero sum game, if we want to earn money then someone else at our table needs to lose money, if everyone is a good player and we have a similar level of skill then over the long term the players are just bouncing money around and no one earns anything except for the house with their rake, this means that new players or players with low skill are needed but if their number is low then sooner or later they will give up and you will be back at having the problem of only playing against skilled players, so what is needed is for poker with cryptocurrencies to become way more popular so the influx of new players is constant.
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Even if poker is a PvP kind of game the casino still has expenses to cover and since they are giving a service and they are using some of their resources to keep the poker tables online then it is natural they take a rake, and as you say this rake is lower than what we see at physical casinos, however I can understand why some may find difficult to profit from it as the number of poker players on those websites is limited and many are decent players so unless you are way above them in terms of skill then you are not getting any profits against them.
I think that you can find online casino or poker room with players who`s skill will be at least not higher then yours own. But the most interesting game is when you`re winning powerful opponents as for me. In such wins you usually getting good profit and good moon. In easy games you can get profit, but mostly it will be less then your normal profit, and surely it will not be fun. The trouble with these smaller and niche poker rooms (e.g. cryptocurrency only) is that they tend to be dominated by sharks. When you're on somewhere like pokerstars there are thousands, if not tends of thousands of players, and lots of new fish sign up each day to leak cash. This keeps the sharks fed while the fish either learn the game over time or drop off. However if you are looking at somewhere like swc where there might be 150 players online, who are spread across different buy-in tables, you'll find that they often know every single player there and how they rank against them. New fish are rare - so they get targeted and wiped out very quickly, which leaves you with a constant low amount of players. It's hard to see a crypto poker site doing well unless we have much wider adoption or a single site throws so much money into advertising they can reach a "critical mass" which draws in a sustainable amount of players (like having at least 1,000 online at any one time) Exactly, poker is a zero sum game, if we want to earn money then someone else at our table needs to lose money, if everyone is a good player and we have a similar level of skill then over the long term the players are just bouncing money around and no one earns anything except for the house with their rake, this means that new players or players with low skill are needed but if their number is low then sooner or later they will give up and you will be back at having the problem of only playing against skilled players, so what is needed is for poker with cryptocurrencies to become way more popular so the influx of new players is constant. You do not need cryptocurrencies do become more popular. You would just need the valuations to increase. If everybody theoretically 10xs from here, then tons will have money to gamble with. And I don't see how a website that is already at critical mass, cant create more volume? Pokerstars surely could add a "cryptocurrency" button and that should surely drive in more revenue right?? I am sure they could, but the time isn't right.
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November 13, 2021, 05:10:50 PM |
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Exactly, poker is a zero sum game, if we want to earn money then someone else at our table needs to lose money, if everyone is a good player and we have a similar level of skill then over the long term the players are just bouncing money around and no one earns anything except for the house with their rake, this means that new players or players with low skill are needed but if their number is low then sooner or later they will give up and you will be back at having the problem of only playing against skilled players, so what is needed is for poker with cryptocurrencies to become way more popular so the influx of new players is constant.
You are talking about players that playing for money. For some of them playing poker is a work. But there are lot of players, that playing for fun. They brings some money just to lose it. It is not a problem for them, they pay for getting fun. And they are playing just occasionally. They giving money for rake and pro players.
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You are talking about players that playing for money. For some of them playing poker is a work. But there are lot of players, that playing for fun. They brings some money just to lose it. It is not a problem for them, they pay for getting fun. And they are playing just occasionally. They giving money for rake and pro players.Nicely put. Indeed, in fact, that's what happens. Of course nobody starts the game with the intention to lose it, but people are ready to lose, even professional poker players are like that. That's why they usually play in the tournaments for which they have at least 20 buy-ins, they know they can lose, and they are ready for it.
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November 16, 2021, 12:55:17 PM |
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You are talking about players that playing for money. For some of them playing poker is a work. But there are lot of players, that playing for fun. They brings some money just to lose it. It is not a problem for them, they pay for getting fun. And they are playing just occasionally. They giving money for rake and pro players.Nicely put. Indeed, in fact, that's what happens. Of course nobody starts the game with the intention to lose it, but people are ready to lose, even professional poker players are like that. That's why they usually play in the tournaments for which they have at least 20 buy-ins, they know they can lose, and they are ready for it. When i start the game, i forgot the money, i`ve bet. If i win - it will be nice bonus for fun, if i loose - it will not become a problem. And when someone decides to use poker for moneymaking - he must remember that he can be the best player in the world, but without good cards even he can loose. This is not chess game, there is some moments, when you need just luck.
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When i start the game, i forgot the money, i`ve bet. If i win - it will be nice bonus for fun, if i loose - it will not become a problem. And when someone decides to use poker for moneymaking - he must remember that he can be the best player in the world, but without good cards even he can loose. This is not chess game, there is some moments, when you need just luck.
In poker, there are many crucial moments... so I agree that some hands are all about luck, especially when you go all-in before flop! Even two aces can fall easily, and that happens often, I can't count how many all-ins I have lost with two aces in my hand against lower pair, even vs low cards! What makes a good poker player is the ability to play with good and bad cards! To be patient, and to wait for better cards... to make a bold move in some moments and bluff, the only way to keep your bankroll from melting down!
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