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November 20, 2021, 01:25:14 PM |
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If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.
I highly doubt that it is the case as anyone with smart logic will try to find out about the important thing related to the product they want to buy. In this case, having a casino is a business, gambling business so anyone who want to own a casino should not be that stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing researches. I'm quite sure the OP know everything about the script including about the questionable provably fairness but he do not want to admit it. Not necessarily. With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this. Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree.
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November 20, 2021, 03:40:12 PM |
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Not necessarily. With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this.
Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree.
Exactly. In-house developers are always better than using some pre-developed templates since the author could simply inject a malicious script into one of the updates.
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Stalker22
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November 20, 2021, 06:47:09 PM |
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Exactly. In-house developers are always better than using some pre-developed templates since the author could simply inject a malicious script into one of the updates.
I agree. It is always better to build gambling script with in-house developers from scratch. However, I do not believe BetABit.Casino has the necessary expertise nor the resources at their disposal to build something like that, not to mention the capital necessary to fund bankrolls, promotions, and so on. This seems more like an attempt to earn some quick cash. But I will keep an open mind.
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November 22, 2021, 03:24:30 PM Last edit: November 22, 2021, 05:13:27 PM by Cryptock |
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It's strange to see a site that gives a description on their main page saying "All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." it's like we will be cheated. I think the use of the right words in a casino is something to pay attention to. Also in their recent games, some players use their real names like they don't care about identities in gambling.
Good point! Whenever someone writes that something is not a scam, the first thing that comes to my mind is that it is. Well, because have you ever seen any serious big companies with an established position that ever talk about the fact that they are not scammers? Not! Because why talk about it? It is after all an obvious. However, if someone talks about it from the beginning, it immediately seems suspicious to me. Well…I guess this is how it goes: He bought a pre-made casino script, bought a domain and thought that he is the master of all the gambling worlds! This, however, is not the case and it is obvious that he hadn't thought about it very much. What many people don't realize is that there are thousands of gambling sites that use this exact same approach. But, running a successful gambling site requires much more than that. You need to plan, invest, come up with ideas and many other things that OP did not do. We can all see that the owner approach is not very professional. My particular point was that if someone introduces himself that he is not an scammer, a red light is automatically turned on for me that he is. This is how it looks also here: We do not cheat. It is a clear signal for me to avoid this place from a distance.
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November 22, 2021, 11:29:29 PM |
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<cut> It is a clear signal for me to avoid this place from a distance.
You already said basically the same thing a few days ago. Are you trying to build up your post count? And, isn't it cynical of you to talk about scam casinos given the signature you wear?
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mak013
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November 23, 2021, 01:08:58 PM |
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If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.
I highly doubt that it is the case as anyone with smart logic will try to find out about the important thing related to the product they want to buy. In this case, having a casino is a business, gambling business so anyone who want to own a casino should not be that stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing researches. I'm quite sure the OP know everything about the script including about the questionable provably fairness but he do not want to admit it. Not necessarily. With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this. Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree. I can agree that it is possible. Sometime ago i`ve got the same task(not casino, but very similar). The main problem was not to create web-site and make several changes for it - it is really easy if you get good instruction. Some troubles i`ve got then began to do local changes, that i need to my task - it is difficult to find such instructions. If the OP just changes wallets and the name with logo - it does not take much time.
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November 24, 2021, 07:39:36 PM |
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Wang has read forum on this casino and doesnt understand why people speak bad thing on this. I have used casino 5 times already and not had bad thing. Wang wins easy with blackjack, the casino pays, msg wang for crypto strategy coin build and wang help you
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November 25, 2021, 08:23:24 AM |
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Wang has read forum on this casino and doesnt understand why people speak bad thing on this. I have used casino 5 times already and not had bad thing. Wang wins easy with blackjack, the casino pays, msg wang for crypto strategy coin build and wang help you
Nice try to shill for this casino, but no one will trust you easily. Be smarter if you want to say it is a good site that pays you. Prove what you say and get all those who say bad thing about this casino busted, can you? Show us that you are a real player in this site and show us that they do really pay your winning. Simple request.
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November 25, 2021, 02:57:22 PM |
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Wang has read forum on this casino and doesnt understand why people speak bad thing on this. I have used casino 5 times already and not had bad thing. Wang wins easy with blackjack, the casino pays, msg wang for crypto strategy coin build and wang help you
Nice try to shill for this casino, but no one will trust you easily. Be smarter if you want to say it is a good site that pays you. Prove what you say and get all those who say bad thing about this casino busted, can you? Show us that you are a real player in this site and show us that they do really pay your winning. Simple request. I believe he can't. He just opened this account yesterday and immediately comes to this thread to prove that he trust this casino. is it co-incident? I don't think so. But, look at his post. How Clever he is. He pretending like he is a NON-ENGLISH guy. He doesn't know English too much. But, He loves this casino. That's why he came here to leave feedback. Clever but funny also. Hey Mr.Wang. I know you are an alt of BetABit. Still, I am requesting you to provide info about what The Dustboy asked for. Just a simple request. @BetABit.Casino, Man, Stop what are you doing now. Bitcointalk People are not Kids. If you really want to do business. Take this community seriously. Listen to community feedback and try to improve. This way you can do your business with BitcoinTalk People. Otherwise, You have depended on other Paid Networks like PTC, Google ads, or other ad networks. That's it.
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mak013
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November 25, 2021, 06:27:43 PM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
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November 25, 2021, 06:54:56 PM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I haven't used their website yet but i've seen websites like Duckdice, fastdice exit scam and there were quite a lot of them. I'm not sure what to say about the website atm but i'll look into theirs when i get the time again to try with some amount. Or maybe reading your post made me dodge a bullet.
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mak013
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November 26, 2021, 05:50:24 AM |
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I haven't used their website yet but i've seen websites like Duckdice, fastdice exit scam and there were quite a lot of them.
I'm not sure what to say about the website atm but i'll look into theirs when i get the time again to try with some amount. Or maybe reading your post made me dodge a bullet.
There is nothing interesting. Just look at new registered @Wangyip post and posts after him. This is enough to understand everything about this website and your chances to get your money back. And before it there were posts with analyze this "casino" and it`s script - cheap script that mostly used for such scam websites.
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Cryptock
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November 27, 2021, 02:55:27 PM |
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<cut> It is a clear signal for me to avoid this place from a distance.
You already said basically the same thing a few days ago. Are you trying to build up your post count? It proves the stability of my opinion on what I wrote and what I think about this casino. And, isn't it cynical of you to talk about scam casinos given the signature you wear?
This is a BetABit.Casino thread and I am writing about it. If you want to talk about what I think of 1xbit this is not the right place.
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November 28, 2021, 07:29:41 AM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site.
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November 28, 2021, 09:31:47 AM |
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It is easy to use the same script from the other gambling sites because they want to save the budget, but the hardest part is how they can prove to the public if they are a different owner than the site where they used the scripts. Besides that, they need to give better services to their members, even better than the gambling casino that uses the original scripts. People will not think much about that as long as that casino can give the best to them. Try to satisfy the members, and they will come for more to you and trust you.
But that will not be easy as some people can still think that those websites have the same owner and we can speculate what they will do later. If you do not want to have a problem, you should play gambling on a gambling site that has a reputation and always avoid playing gambling on an unknown site.
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November 28, 2021, 09:47:05 AM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site. Of course it is so. The problem is the newbies. If someone does such websites one by one - someone else leaves their money on this "casinos". I heard several days ago a story about cheater that wanted to get $2000 but got 9 USDT and decided that it is enough from one person. Here can be the same situation. Even if OP gets just $5-10 from one man - it will be $500-1000 from hundred men. But i don`t know how to stop this cheating.
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Cryptock
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November 28, 2021, 04:23:48 PM |
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It is easy to use the same script from the other gambling sites because they want to save the budget, but the hardest part is how they can prove to the public if they are a different owner than the site where they used the scripts. Besides that, they need to give better services to their members, even better than the gambling casino that uses the original scripts. People will not think much about that as long as that casino can give the best to them. Try to satisfy the members, and they will come for more to you and trust you.
But that will not be easy as some people can still think that those websites have the same owner and we can speculate what they will do later. If you do not want to have a problem, you should play gambling on a gambling site that has a reputation and always avoid playing gambling on an unknown site.
We should probably not be surprised if someone finds a way to run a casino at a lower cost and does it. I think that such a person also realizes that his casino will not be competitive. I don't want to defend BetABit.Casino here because I still find them suspicious, but every casino has to start somehow before it builds its trust.
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November 28, 2021, 08:13:52 PM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site. It is not just dozens of websites, but hundreds. These individuals probably get the script, either by buying it or downloading it illegally, and then register dozens of domains in the hope that some of them will get traffic. Yet, as we can see from this example, it is not so simple, and it seems like Wang is very desperate. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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November 29, 2021, 07:25:01 PM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site. It is not just dozens of websites, but hundreds. These individuals probably get the script, either by buying it or downloading it illegally, and then register dozens of domains in the hope that some of them will get traffic. Yet, as we can see from this example, it is not so simple, and it seems like Wang is very desperate. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is very possible that their method is the number of casinos, not the quality of the casinos. It is also possible that they are paying more attention to marketing outside of Bitcointalk. Either they don't know the promotional potential here or they just have a different marketing strategy. I think that the mere lack of activity on Bitcointalk is not enough to judge them.
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November 30, 2021, 02:47:05 PM |
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LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.
I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site. It is not just dozens of websites, but hundreds. These individuals probably get the script, either by buying it or downloading it illegally, and then register dozens of domains in the hope that some of them will get traffic. Yet, as we can see from this example, it is not so simple, and it seems like Wang is very desperate. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is very possible that their method is the number of casinos, not the quality of the casinos. It is also possible that they are paying more attention to marketing outside of Bitcointalk. Either they don't know the promotional potential here or they just have a different marketing strategy. I think that the mere lack of activity on Bitcointalk is not enough to judge them. I don`t think that there is any marketing there. Their way is creating more and more sites with the minimal changes, to minimize their efforts. After it - different ways are possible. Buying bots or traffic, making such threads by themselves, spamming social networks, etc. Someone will be catched by them anyway.
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