Issue of fixed Matches

[Kasabus]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

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[Pmalek]

in this case you mention makes more sense to consider the possibility of some games being fixed
but do you think this also happens in entire plays where the whole team would know?

Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A. One match of Fiorentina and another team (I forgot which one it was) was fixed. But it wasn't fixed to profit from illegal betting. Fiorentina's president was a good friend of the guy who was the president of the opposing team. One of the clubs needed a draw to avoid being related to Serie B and the two friends had a meeting and agreed that their head-to-head meeting would be a tie. In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.

[bolawin]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

[Davidvictorson]

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Match fixing is illegal and run by criminals who are probably former players or player agents. And their modus operandi is mostly bet- related. These folks who do are mostly aiming to make financial gains as they consider it a high-profit and low risk. The long and short is that it is a crime in most countries that could make the offender be sent to jail.

[KTChampions]

Cool. You are very lucky to have such an acquaintance, at least you can learn from him a lot of applied information (like avoiding the reduction of limits that bookmakers apply to successful gamblers very often). In betting, such information is very valuable (due to the fact that you are confident in its source), despite the fact that everything can be found on the internet.

I did not find his information useful as I do not bet often due to the constant lack of time to analyze, read articles, etc. For the same reason he never got into cryptocurrencies.

Most probably because of that betting and gambling for me remains just a pastime and not a way to earn money, in pursuit of which many people lose more than they earn.

I don’t know why you don’t find this interesting. If this activity is scalable (that is, if there is a way to win $ 100 a week, then using the same method you can win $ 10,000 a week), which is most likely so, then by delving into it you can provide yourself financially and at least free yourself from the need to walk to work. And if you want to continue spending your free time on the topic of cryptocurrencies. In general, in my opinion, successful people interesting regardless of the area in which they are successful (be it gambling, betting or something else).

[Betwrong]

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Some low level games in some rural areas are fixed, that's for sure, and maybe those friends of your friend are sending him some "useful numbers", so to speak. And yeah, some money could be earned this way, but to me it's almost on the same level of dangerousness as a bank robbery. I mean, even if it's successful, most likely you'll end up very badly pretty soon.

It's actually a good thing, if your friend is just being scammed, like some people assumed in this thread. It's much worse if he's connected to people involved in match fixing.

[Saisher]

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

There is corruption in every organization and country much more in sporting events because they have a lot of money to be made from fixing games, if you received a tip about a game that will be fix check where it is coming be quiet and just bet, don't make a noise out of it because you are facing a big mafia and you will get in trouble by getting it on the public, there are organizations and agency that deal with it let them do their job.

[hahay]

I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.

[aioc]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

If you are watching games that you are betting hundreds or thousands of times, you'll get a hint if the match or game is fixed, there's really no way to know unless you get the information on a piece of very reliable information, or there is a whistle blower.

Countries put huge fines and penalties on game fixing because it takes away the fairness and excitement of the sports, sports should not be decided by one group but the efforts of players, teams, and organizations, sports fans will not patronize sports that's riddle with game-fixing.

[michellee]

Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?

We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.

What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.

Yes, that is because people who do that do not want to see the public know so that they will shut the person's mouth. Related to the money, they can hide it from the public because they are smart to make the secret transaction in a secret place. Only if some people related to that thing can speak to the media, the fixed matches will blow up and be investigated by the authority. Otherwise, that will continue for a long time.

[AicecreaME]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.

yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

This makes your chance of winning like 40:50 if you accidentally bet on a fixed match, because you're not sure who's going to win. I mean if you made a bet thinking it is a decent match and trusted your information, but the truth is it is a fixed match, the only thing that could give you profit is when you bet on the right team that fixed the match. Fixed match is very annoying because all of your efforts researching on both teams is just nonsense.

[yazher]

Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.

[ralle14]

Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.

I guess this topic isn't discussed as much that's why some people like OP are having some doubts about the likeliness of match fixing during this time and I don't blame him since we rarely see this type of case pop up in the news.

I've linked this thread before but for those who are interested here's an example from the Dota scene where one of the pro players was asked to throw their upcoming match.

[Lucasgabd]

Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.

the thing is, how you find a way to coordinate a full team or two full teams to fix results?
if its fixing one specific thing like faults or whatever than it may be easier, but fixing goals in soccer, or points in a basketball game seems like quite hard to do... does it really happens?

[KTChampions]

I guess this topic isn't discussed as much that's why some people like OP are having some doubts about the likeliness of match fixing during this time and I don't blame him since we rarely see this type of case pop up in the news.

I've linked this thread before but for those who are interested here's an example from the Dota scene where one of the pro players was asked to throw their upcoming match.

I would not call this information interesting and proving something - all we see is a screenshot of a message with an offer of money and a refusal. I'm 99.99% sure that this is an ordinary message from a troll that all famous personalities receive a lot on a wide variety of topics. The very idea of such a thing seems dubious to me - would you agree (even to a super-profitable offer) from an anonymous person, despite the fact that the very fact of your consent would jeopardize your entire career (and possibly your freedom)?

[fortunecrypto]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

They usually fix the game on the last part of the game, they make it close heading to the last part of the game before fixing, there's no way to tell at the start of the game or a match, I don't know you spot it because you did not go further, I have seen a game being fix in a basketball but it happens in the last three minutes of the game, no way to tell accurately unless it comes from a reliable source.

[qwertyup23]

i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time 

Like what I previously mentioned, there was a time that a game in basketball was investigated due to match fixing. You can actually observe their pattern and their movements showing their disinterest and their intentional throwing of the game by the second quarter.
To be honest, it is kinda difficult to spot if a game is fixed. Lots of factors to be considered as every thing is a case-to-case basis.

If you guys are curious, here is the YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UPeeprZs0U

[Silberman]

Of course fixed matches exist but as practice shows many sources that provide information on fixed matches are very often wrong.

I do not think that players have the opportunity to change the score in a fixed match because they will not risk going against the interests of the club and value their careers.

That may be true in powerful leagues, however we know there is a lot of amateur sports in which people still take bets, in fact before the pandemic I used to see boxing fights in which the boxers fighting were just starting their career and it was full of people, but more importantly there is a lot of informal betting going on, so I would not be surprised if there was so much money moving around those fights that there was a strong incentive to fix them.

[Lakai01]

Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
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In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.

Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.

[Fatunad]

Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
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In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.

Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.

No one would really spill out the beans since they've been paid out well and for sure there would be some sort of personal agreements or terms to those people who could be possibly involved.
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.