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November 08, 2021, 02:11:26 PM
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Usually unpopular sports like local sports draws a little attention than those in big sports and most probably fixed matches will be likely real in this category of sports. Like what you've mentioned mate big and known sports have the media and people's eyeing the anticipated event so in most cases those players in this type of game are a well skilled player so definitely it would be hard to fixed a match of this type of game. However, either fixed matches happen on a small spots event or in a big event it shouldn't be tolerated because the probable victims are those bettor who don't have any idea about it.

I agree!  Smiley That kind of business should not be tolerated, and if there're rumors about it, the league or organization who are involved in this kind of activities should held investigations a deeper one that will prevent the reputation of their organization at risk.

There are people who continue to believe that they'll be able to find someone/insider that will give them big benefits.

But in the end those kinds of people only brought big losses and regretful actions that they've taken. B very wise and instead, play with luck and do your proper research in each game that you'll going to participate and bet.

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November 08, 2021, 06:20:06 PM
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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.
The most likely way to find fixed matches comes probably from those that fixed the matches, people love to talk and brag about what they do and if they can fix an important match they will want to share that with someone.

Eventually this information reaches the wrong person and the authorities finally find out about it, however those are only suspicions, there are probably way more cases but since there is no direct evidence then this is something really difficult to prove, which is why we see a scandal every single time a case can in fact be proven and we find out a series of matches were fixed.

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November 08, 2021, 06:53:02 PM
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The most likely way to find fixed matches comes probably from those that fixed the matches, people love to talk and brag about what they do and if they can fix an important match they will want to share that with someone.

Eventually this information reaches the wrong person and the authorities finally find out about it, however those are only suspicions, there are probably way more cases but since there is no direct evidence then this is something really difficult to prove, which is why we see a scandal every single time a case can in fact be proven and we find out a series of matches were fixed.

Some cases happened and being proven in a small league, I remember a basketball game where an obvious act of fixing the game was done.

The league organizer imposed removal of the players who are involved, permanently banned them from playing again in any teams that the league has,

It's really happening and if there's a deeper investigation probably even in much bigger sports, they will find a kind of activities that happening around.

But until now, we are not hearing any good or strong evidence that will bring someone out of this illegal business.
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November 08, 2021, 07:04:50 PM
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Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so. I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.

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November 08, 2021, 08:44:57 PM
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Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so. I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.
Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games. Honestly I never prefer to bet in fixed matches even I got many opportunities to bet on such matches. Because, in my country match fixing is severely prohibited and participating anything related to that will be treated as big offensive. So, instead of risking my life just for few dollars of profits, I just decided to stay away from that always.
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November 09, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
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Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so.
There's no fun on it if there are people who actually know the game has already been fixed and sold. Poor those bettors that are hoping to get a win with that match not knowing that it's already been sold. Profit to those who know but a bad thing for those that have no idea that the game is fixed.

I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.
If there's a sports commission and organization that are handling these tournaments and games, hopefully they'll impose a lifetime ban to those that will be  involved to any fix match.

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I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.

That's a possibility, of course. You know, there is a fraudulent scheme performed by some sophisticated scammers: they offer to return your money back if it didn't work out. And they deliver on their promise! This way can be milking their victims for all eternity. What's more is that they(victims) tell their friends about "fairness" of the scammers, and some of their friends join in as well.

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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

This is one of the challenges in match-fixing on how you could prove that such event did happen. One might argue that the opposing team might have a 'bad day' as to their performance but a proper investigation and comparison of their old games can be used to determine if they are intentionally throwing the match or not.

Like what I previously posted and shared, there was a match involving two (2) basketball teams where the other team was intentionally throwing the game (e.g. giving fouls, shooting airballs, turnovers, etc.) and it was investigated and proved that they intentionally did it. Another thing, most match-fixing happens on a small and niche community where the teams are comfortable enough to do it due to the relaxed security and supervision.

Such investigations usually take long time as they need to carefully gather possible evidences, witnesses and other factors that may have contributed the fixed-match situation. They need to verify the validity of the information as well. So these cases are not easy to resolve because they need to be really sure that match-fixing did happen. Because it will ruin the career of the athletes involved and also those organizations or personnel that took part with the situation.
While true those investigations also take a lot of time because the investigators are doing their best to hide the worst aspects of the cheating scandal, most of the time the one that investigates a cheating scandal is not the police but the sport association, do you really think they want to expose their sport as being full of cheaters and that the results people thought legitimate are for the most part fake? If they did that they will lose their audience, so they just let a small amount of the cheating reach the ears of the public, punish a small number of people to make it seem as if they are doing something and then they try to make people forget about all what happened.
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November 09, 2021, 06:32:32 PM
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Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games.
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Match-fixing I think will always be there, it's just that maybe it's visible or not. I think it undermines a sporting order that boasts about spotify. I'm sure at the moment it's still happening and I think the culprit is a person who has very large funds. They mobilize some sports criminals with the aim of making a profit. My country also has match-fixing. Football administrators have severely punished the perpetrators and are prohibited from doing activities in the sport of football, even banned from the stadium. Most recently I also heard on local television via a talk show, if any referee contacted with an identity is given and testified that the setting of scores in football still occurs. It's really sad.
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November 09, 2021, 07:02:38 PM
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I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.

That's a possibility, of course. You know, there is a fraudulent scheme performed by some sophisticated scammers: they offer to return your money back if it didn't work out. And they deliver on their promise! This way can be milking their victims for all eternity. What's more is that they(victims) tell their friends about "fairness" of the scammers, and some of their friends join in as well.
Oh well, that's really the case and they will keep multiplying thinking that scammers are really serious about the business, some of them will allow you to win, but in the long-run when you already attached and you already entrusted your money, suddenly it will turn against you and everything that you are enjoying will be replaced by big regrets following those people.

Be wise and not to fall from this kind of offer. It' always better to play with your own understanding and if you really want to go deeper, best to work on your knowledge and keep digging to gain more important information.

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November 09, 2021, 08:25:35 PM
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Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games.
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Match-fixing I think will always be there, it's just that maybe it's visible or not. I think it undermines a sporting order that boasts about spotify. I'm sure at the moment it's still happening and I think the culprit is a person who has very large funds. They mobilize some sports criminals with the aim of making a profit. My country also has match-fixing. Football administrators have severely punished the perpetrators and are prohibited from doing activities in the sport of football, even banned from the stadium. Most recently I also heard on local television via a talk show, if any referee contacted with an identity is given and testified that the setting of scores in football still occurs. It's really sad.
Sports are just like politicians, some of them are corrupt and its also happening in my country. Fix matching can’t be stopped, they are already here even if its not that visible. Just enjoy the game and place your bet only to your familiar teams since most of the teams on lower bracket are doing this kind of dirty games. I also believe that some referees are being paid for the bad calls, as long as there’s money involve its really possible.

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