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October 19, 2021, 12:33:03 AM
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October 19, 2021, 12:42:18 AM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They are real and most of the time it came from a match where the team is not really famous like for example in the boxing match, you can see them clearly where most of them are just bad at pretending. You can watch some of them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBitM4o3WQk&ab_channel=SmBBoxing

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October 19, 2021, 01:37:20 AM
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They're real all right. It's just that most of them are under the radar hence why people who aren't purposely looking for it wouldn't even notice it most of the time. Fixed matches are something that are frowned upon and would result in at the very least a temporary ban for both the players and the referees that are in it, so most matches like that would be done so that not only the people watching, but also the other responsible people that are in the match itself wouldn't actually notice anything wrong.

Just look up match-fixing tbh, and you'd probably find a lot of info on past match fixes that happened.

 
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October 19, 2021, 01:58:52 AM
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If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

No reaction. Even that game will be fixed or not, we don't know what will be the result of the game. You bet on a certain team because of your own factors. If it loses, then accept. No difference at all. We are gambling at the start and we should just go with the flow.

Game-fixing happened but not most of the time.

Agree that game fixing occurs in all sports or games, but it does not occur frequently. If they don't accept that they lose, I believe most people will say it. Many of my friends say this when we bet on e sports or the NBA for fun, but you are correct in that you should accept the fact that you will lose whether the game is fixed or not. It's also difficult to catch them if it was fixed because it's a game violation, so there's a good chance you'll lose.
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October 19, 2021, 03:00:46 AM
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If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

No reaction. Even that game will be fixed or not, we don't know what will be the result of the game. You bet on a certain team because of your own factors. If it loses, then accept. No difference at all. We are gambling at the start and we should just go with the flow.

Game-fixing happened but not most of the time.

Agree that game fixing occurs in all sports or games, but it does not occur frequently. If they don't accept that they lose, I believe most people will say it. Many of my friends say this when we bet on e sports or the NBA for fun, but you are correct in that you should accept the fact that you will lose whether the game is fixed or not. It's also difficult to catch them if it was fixed because it's a game violation, so there's a good chance you'll lose.
Somehow, they can hide it from the public so we only think that the game is real without any interference from other sides.
Some gamblers can know if that fixed matches or not because they have their analysis and know the history of each team.
For a gambler who does not know about the fixed matches or not, they only place their gambling.
But for people who watch the game from their home and do not know anything about the fixed matches, they only enjoy the game and not thinking much.

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October 19, 2021, 04:22:35 AM
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Some of the fixed matches were real and it happened mostly on lower/less popular leagues. I don't know how many of them still exist today but you can browse on the net how many were investigated and busted. Those involved were from top management to the players. Having said that, I think most numbers (scores) sold as fixed matches are fake though.
Though this mostly happen in smaller leagues/sports yet there are revelation in the past that Even in Major league this is happening (Sometimes/limited occasions) because we knew how Money can play and this will never change the reality that bad things happen in sports gaming nowadays.
and this also taking the trust of many fans/bettors.

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October 19, 2021, 04:30:29 AM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it happened and will continue to happen, especially in an unknown league.
I have posted a few months ago about an obvious match fixing happened here in my country.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480
There's an attached link of the video for you to have a slight idea how the fixed games work.

Fixed games is usually orchestrated by the league comittee and board. So, when there is an obvious rigging the first people to be questioned is them.

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October 19, 2021, 04:34:27 AM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it happened and will continue to happen, especially in an unknown league.
I have posted a few months ago about an obvious match fixing happened here in my country.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480
There's an attached link of the video for you to have a slight idea how the fixed games work.

Fixed games is usually orchestrated by the league comittee and board. So, when there is an obvious rigging the first people to be questioned is them.
agreed in that mate because this will never happen without Officials helping this to come reality also imagine how those players will take part if this is not orchestrated by the Higher ups?
Have watched several News about this rigging and i know that almost every sports has this situation.
and the most affected here is the bettors , also the effect for long run as trust will gone in those said sports , specially Boxing and Basketball .

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October 19, 2021, 06:21:31 AM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes,fixed matches do exist,but they mostly happen in the low quality leagues of the poor/underdeveloped countries.
Good luck trying to find a fixed match that is actually fixed.If somebody is trying to sell your such info,then he is most likely a scammer/snake oil seller.Info about real fixed matches is usually kept between the football players,who are betting secretly on fixed matches,in which they are playing,or maybe some mobsters.
Perhaps you could find info about fixed matches on the darkweb,but the chance of getting scammed is still above 99%.
I'm not a player,so I couldn't care less about fixed matches.If I was,my reaction would be calling the cops.

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October 19, 2021, 06:54:06 AM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


I don't know much about Football but I am quite aware about fixing matches, it happens a lot on the esports scene, CSGO is a game wherein pro teams have been match fixing, I don't know but I am sure that this may also happen to other games. As for the players, they also cooperate with the match fixing only if they get paid for it, keep in mind that I am only referring to match fixing on esports, I have no idea how match fixing entirely works on physical sports like Football, etc.
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October 19, 2021, 07:22:59 AM
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Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.

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October 19, 2021, 07:30:10 AM
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Try looking at streaming sites and you will find loads of documentaries with facts to back it up about fixed matches.
I can say they are real but it requires a mass amount of money for match to be fixed. I mean, that's their dignity that's on the line and some players may not even agree with it unless they are being blackmailed or the payment will be good enough than their salary.
But if given a chance of someone to spoil whatever the result will be, I may not take it. Not being a hypocrite but where is the fun in that?

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October 19, 2021, 09:47:25 AM
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Not sure if they were real but we've seen some issues before that it's really happening and in your question about my reaction if I were on a team I will definitely be surprised with that if it's my first time participating on a fixed match but also an opportunity for me to place bet on which team will win I think they can make an easy money out of it. We'll that was just my reaction since for me I see it as an opportunity if I know what will be the outcome of the game.

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October 19, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
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There was a discussion about fixed match happen in the Philippines before but that was been busted and the person involve was disqualified on the league and other got suspended, so this will be the warning for other to not do it since we are now dealing with high tech cameras and everything will go viral once there's anomaly happened in the league. And aside from that I didn't see any fix matches happening these days maybe this is totally eliminated but hopefully there's no something like this will exist since this will destroy the reputation of the league.

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October 19, 2021, 10:53:38 AM
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Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.
Why Players need to suffer when the truth is the Management i the direct command for this to take place?

The players only follows what directive given to them .

though there are some cases that they are acting directly on their own , but most of the cases are either the team management of the The management is whom Involved in Fix Matching.

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There are several topics in the past that talks about something like this here in gambling discussions , Even NBA (National Basketball Association) once been involved in such problem though there are no complete proofs released.
also In boxing World and even in Footballs .
Meaning this is happening mate so yeah Maybe your friend might be right but mostly it is wrong unless he Wins on that certain bet you mentioned.

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October 19, 2021, 11:36:15 AM
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Fixed matches are real. It always happen because both parties will get benefited. For example Team A is the superior and Team B is the inferior, Team B will offer bigger money than the price that Team A will going to get if they win, so the benefit of Team A is the money while Team B is the title, simple as that. There are different reasons behind it in different sports and athletes. Lucky if your friend's source for that fixed match was legit because that's an easy money.

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Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Yes, it's real. There are many methods, but the easiest one would be team-x willingly play like a shit, then lose the match (team-y win).
BUT the real problem is whether your information is correct. The scammers might say there's match fixing involved, where's actually not. Or you can get the wrong information to bet on team-x. Where the smart (insider) money bet on team-y Cheesy
There are a lot of scammers in the space who claimed that they are selling some reliable fixed information of a certain game, but first, in order to get that information, we should avail of their services by paying the subscription fee, and most of the time it's very expensive so it's pretty obvious that they just want to score a scam on us.

Actually, there are a lot of rumors that sports are rigged or fixed, but it seems that no one could have proved it yet, as if they find someone, a player or a referee who they think are trying to rig the game, they can just punish them to make the certain sports look clean but in reality, it's still happening inside.

Anyway, it's not our main concern, our only concern is if the fixed information is reliable or not.
There is a method scammers use to lure people into paying that subscription fee. First, they start sending games' results to common people for free. But actually, they select a wide range of people and send different possible results for a same game to each of them. This way some will receive the correct result, while others will receive wrong results.

So, close to the date of next game, scammers pick the people who received the correct result information of the previous game and send them new results predicting the next match. Again, some will be told team A will win, others will be told it will be a draw and others will be told team B will win.

Week after week scammers will do this and at some point, those individuals who are constantly receiving the correct results will feel tempted to subscribe to the scammers' services. When this happens, informations about the games stop arriving at their mailboxes/emails, as scammers have finally accomplished their goal.

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There is a method scammers use to lure people into paying that subscription fee. First, they start sending games' results to common people for free. But actually, they select a wide range of people and send different possible results for a same game to each of them. This way some will receive the correct result, while others will receive wrong results.

So, close to the date of next game, scammers pick the people who received the correct result information of the previous game and send them new results predicting the next match. Again, some will be told team A will win, others will be told it will be a draw and others will be told team B will win.

Week after week scammers will do this and at some point, those individuals who are constantly receiving the correct results will feel tempted to subscribe to the scammers' services. When this happens, informations about the games stop arriving at their mailboxes/emails, as scammers have finally accomplished their goal.
Wow, I haven't thought about that possibility. It makes sense tho. Assume the scammer has 1,000 email contacts. Since the probability is 50%, he can simply split the pool in half and guaranteed 500 will get the correct result. After 5 consecutive wins, 31 contacts get it all correct:

Start - 1,000
Win 1 - 500
Win 2 - 250
Win 3 - 125
Win 4 - 62.5
Win 5 - 31.25

It's tempting if you we are in the 31 contacts that get 5 consecutive wins. We might think it's a valid tipster.

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October 19, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
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Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.
Why Players need to suffer when the truth is the Management i the direct command for this to take place?

The players only follows what directive given to them .

though there are some cases that they are acting directly on their own , but most of the cases are either the team management of the The management is whom Involved in Fix Matching.
One who found guilty will get the punishment for sure, but whenever the team had enough money then they can tackle all the things because sports is also a kind of big politics where lot of things wre uncertain and anyone can be affected for no reason or one who is the reason for all of this can be free with no worries.

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