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I speculate that this is because Elon Musk missed his chance to buy bitcoin under a dollar and also missed the chance to become one of the biggest personalities and influencers of the bitcoin community. Both of those chances he missed can presently be obtained by investing and supporting an altcoin.
I happen to think, that Elon Musk has had Bitcoins since practically its inception. Let's not forget that he was one of the creators of PayPal. In 2010-2012 the fact that he heard about a new 100% virtual payment system certainly caught his attention and he must have had some "experience".
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November 15, 2021, 12:17:39 PM |
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So it does look like Tesla is still working on their crypto payment system. I was surprised to see they updated the code on the page once this tweet was made. I figured this was just hangover stuff from when they were playing around with accepting crypto. It seems like maybe they're getting ready to open the floodgates again. Hopefully just in time for the perfect December storm we see every 4 years.
I think the Doge stuff is a stunt and I couldn't care less about it, but I'd like to see Bitcoin being accepted. In fact, I'd probably buy a model 3 next month if it were accepted (not that I'd get it anytime soon).
Exactly. Doge stuff is a stunt because it's been in the headlines this year. Ever since its early year pump it's been dropping in value against the rest of the market. It'll no longer be making headlines in 2022 and nobody will care about it, at least no more than people cared about it before this year. Musk is looking to squeeze the last juice out of Doge headlines while he still can. He know that the dev doesn't have any control of that coin that's why he see a potential to manipulate the dogecoin market easily, We see him do that before and for doing this public stint and accepting it on their business for sure they are aftering something so better for new to not get hook by this news and sell if you hold doge once profit is already showing to us and its good not to be greedy on manipulated coins since we will end up chasing the news and get panic on situations currently happening.
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November 15, 2021, 01:45:28 PM |
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I speculate that this is because Elon Musk missed his chance to buy bitcoin under a dollar and also missed the chance to become one of the biggest personalities and influencers of the bitcoin community. Both of those chances he missed can presently be obtained by investing and supporting an altcoin.
I agree that EM has a great need to be important and significant in something, and it failed to achieve that with Bitcoin because it is decentralized. On the other hand, he agreed very easily with those behind Doge, although it is not clear to me how Buterin, who already has his own project, fits into this story? Some conspiracy theorists might say that a team that is serious about competing with Bitcoin is coming together, although the question is what do they really intend to do with a project that has a foundation in the idea of making a joke based on cryptocurrencies (primarily Bitcoin). Birchall, a former senior vice president at Morgan Stanley is also on the board of the Musk Foundation and manages Musk’s family office. The executive will represent Musk’s interests on the Dogecoin advisory board alongside Buterin, Dogecoin founder Billy Markus and core developer Max Keller.
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November 15, 2021, 03:11:44 PM |
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You know Shiba is currently a new coin and since it has gathered a small firm people will like to test it's condition. and i taught tesla don't accept any payment with bitcoin and bitcoin is one of his criticising coin that he hate so much and prefer Doge over bitcoin, initially he was bumping doge to get domination over btc....lol.. since the doge has been changed by name called powercoin i think it will help to have like Shiba, but it will take time from my own ideology before the name will get acquainted with people.
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November 15, 2021, 03:40:16 PM |
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You know Shiba is currently a new coin and since it has gathered a small firm people will like to test it's condition. and i taught tesla don't accept any payment with bitcoin and bitcoin is one of his criticising coin that he hate so much and prefer Doge over bitcoin, initially he was bumping doge to get domination over btc....lol.. since the doge has been changed by name called powercoin i think it will help to have like Shiba, but it will take time from my own ideology before the name will get acquainted with people.
Elon Musk is the owner of Tesla and also the promoter of Dogecoin, that obviously they will accept this coin than choose Bitcoin instead. But such a changing mind hearing news talking about that they will accept Bitcoin. It can be now a twist of Elon Musk to love Bitcoin and hold more of it, in fact, we are aware that he also holds a few BTC. I don't include Shiba in this, it is a separate issue. And don't also think that this is a sort of competition between the 2 meme coins Doge and Shiba. But I'd see this that Elon Musk and Tesla are ready to criticize after rejecting Bitcoin before as they just keep Doge alone.
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November 15, 2021, 05:35:21 PM |
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Credit goes to the twitter user below https://twitter.com/Tree_of_Alpha/status/1456332297393872899Seems that Tesla is testing payment in Bitcoin and another coin called SHIBA. However upon investigation it seems that the coin is called SHIBA but when he did a test transaction the address started with D. And then he did a test payment on the Doge network and when the payment was accepted it confirmed on the Tesla servers. Never in a million years would of I guessed that he was actually serious and would start accepting Doge. Was assuming he would accept Bitcoin and Ethereum. Definitely not Shiba or Doge. Wonder if someone will actually buy an entire Tesla vehicle paid for by Dogecoin. The vehicle owned by Tesla is quite large and in fact many variants are offered, but unfortunately in our country there is no such product, in fact the hype is good for Tesla's development in adopting and influencing the market and if this is successful then it is likely that Tesla will continue to grow, adoption is good made by tesla, this is a development that is more and more attractive to people, the target market will be at certain countries.
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November 15, 2021, 07:24:51 PM |
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So it does look like Tesla is still working on their crypto payment system. I was surprised to see they updated the code on the page once this tweet was made. I figured this was just hangover stuff from when they were playing around with accepting crypto. It seems like maybe they're getting ready to open the floodgates again. Hopefully just in time for the perfect December storm we see every 4 years.
I think the Doge stuff is a stunt and I couldn't care less about it, but I'd like to see Bitcoin being accepted. In fact, I'd probably buy a model 3 next month if it were accepted (not that I'd get it anytime soon).
Exactly. Doge stuff is a stunt because it's been in the headlines this year. Ever since its early year pump it's been dropping in value against the rest of the market. It'll no longer be making headlines in 2022 and nobody will care about it, at least no more than people cared about it before this year. Musk is looking to squeeze the last juice out of Doge headlines while he still can. He know that the dev doesn't have any control of that coin that's why he see a potential to manipulate the dogecoin market easily, We see him do that before and for doing this public stint and accepting it on their business for sure they are aftering something so better for new to not get hook by this news and sell if you hold doge once profit is already showing to us and its good not to be greedy on manipulated coins since we will end up chasing the news and get panic on situations currently happening. He could possibly still make out some manipulation but not on the sense on dropping down the price even he's a billionaire yet this coin itself doesnt really have that single or a few holders which simply means that controlling it on the very essence would be nearly impossible. Yes, anyone could make out some significant effect depending on the hype or fud that generates around considering that the community does easily react on situations like this. Businesses could accept coins whatever they want because its their liking and decision whether there's something behind those decisions or doesnt have.
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November 15, 2021, 08:59:51 PM |
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How I wish that it needs someone to confirm that he use Dogecoin to buy a Tesla car but too unfortunate that there is none. Even the use of Bitcoin and ETH can't find anyone. Well, if that is really true, then that was good. I know and I believe that someday the use of crypto to buy stuff is fully accepted and one's must have to take an action first as the others will follow next. I hope this was a real market deal and Tesla will continue to accept crypto not just Dogecoin as first stated by the owner.
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November 15, 2021, 09:34:28 PM |
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So it does look like Tesla is still working on their crypto payment system. I was surprised to see they updated the code on the page once this tweet was made. I figured this was just hangover stuff from when they were playing around with accepting crypto. It seems like maybe they're getting ready to open the floodgates again. Hopefully just in time for the perfect December storm we see every 4 years.
I think the Doge stuff is a stunt and I couldn't care less about it, but I'd like to see Bitcoin being accepted. In fact, I'd probably buy a model 3 next month if it were accepted (not that I'd get it anytime soon).
Exactly. Doge stuff is a stunt because it's been in the headlines this year. Ever since its early year pump it's been dropping in value against the rest of the market. It'll no longer be making headlines in 2022 and nobody will care about it, at least no more than people cared about it before this year. Musk is looking to squeeze the last juice out of Doge headlines while he still can. Most likely, after all you do not get to be one of the richest people alive without knowing a thing or two about how to get some free publicity for your projects, Elon has been very smart about all of this to the point I remember people designing even bots to monitor the activity on his social media accounts and see if he talked about dogecoin so they could invest in it quickly enough before the price went up, so when Elon talks about dogecoin people listen and he knows this.
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November 16, 2021, 12:11:30 AM |
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I speculate that this is because Elon Musk missed his chance to buy bitcoin under a dollar and also missed the chance to become one of the biggest personalities and influencers of the bitcoin community. Both of those chances he missed can presently be obtained by investing and supporting an altcoin.
I agree that EM has a great need to be important and significant in something, and it failed to achieve that with Bitcoin because it is decentralized. On the other hand, he agreed very easily with those behind Doge, although it is not clear to me how Buterin, who already has his own project, fits into this story? Some conspiracy theorists might say that a team that is serious about competing with Bitcoin is coming together, although the question is what do they really intend to do with a project that has a foundation in the idea of making a joke based on cryptocurrencies (primarily Bitcoin). Birchall, a former senior vice president at Morgan Stanley is also on the board of the Musk Foundation and manages Musk’s family office. The executive will represent Musk’s interests on the Dogecoin advisory board alongside Buterin, Dogecoin founder Billy Markus and core developer Max Keller. Vitalik is only with the Dogecoin Foundation on an advisory position. His time will not be 100% used on running the foundation. Also, he fits in quite well, I reckon. Vitalik had a much similar situation with bitcoin before his creation of Ethereum. He wanted influence, however, cannot have the same influence over the bitcoin community compared to people like Andreas. The result is he created his own coin.
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November 16, 2021, 02:44:16 AM |
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So it does look like Tesla is still working on their crypto payment system. I was surprised to see they updated the code on the page once this tweet was made. I figured this was just hangover stuff from when they were playing around with accepting crypto. It seems like maybe they're getting ready to open the floodgates again. Hopefully just in time for the perfect December storm we see every 4 years.
I think the Doge stuff is a stunt and I couldn't care less about it, but I'd like to see Bitcoin being accepted. In fact, I'd probably buy a model 3 next month if it were accepted (not that I'd get it anytime soon).
Exactly. Doge stuff is a stunt because it's been in the headlines this year. Ever since its early year pump it's been dropping in value against the rest of the market. It'll no longer be making headlines in 2022 and nobody will care about it, at least no more than people cared about it before this year. Musk is looking to squeeze the last juice out of Doge headlines while he still can. Most likely, after all you do not get to be one of the richest people alive without knowing a thing or two about how to get some free publicity for your projects, Elon has been very smart about all of this to the point I remember people designing even bots to monitor the activity on his social media accounts and see if he talked about dogecoin so they could invest in it quickly enough before the price went up, so when Elon talks about dogecoin people listen and he knows this. Well, that's the point, Elon knows how to ride the popularity on crypto, maybe he was really into it for a long time. Maybe as early as 2017 wherein he saw a lot of crypto influencers and observed how they did all this publicity stunt. Now, it benefit him personally, his company and still he is on the coat tail of Doge. As much as we hate hi, this guy is really pure genius, just saying.
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Elon knows how to ride the popularity on crypto, maybe he was really into it for a long time. Maybe as early as 2017 wherein he saw a lot of crypto influencers and observed how they did all this publicity stunt.
Now, it benefit him personally, his company and still he is on the coat tail of Doge. As much as we hate hi, this guy is really pure genius, just saying.
Unfortunately there is a huge problem with our world where people worship the powerful, and that has not changed for a long time, at least if they look like they are regular people. It is common to hate Jeff Bezos, nobody really likes him to be honest, but look at the level at Elon, many people love him for how he is, not just what he does but the quirky nerdy type of act he plays. This dude didn't build paypal, he stole emeralds from his dads mine that his dad stole from Africans with brute force, and then sold some, and he was sent to Canada to study and given ton of money, then he built something with his friends which his friends basically built but he had the money to sustain it, then he was merged with what is paypal today and sold his shares, all he did was channel his dads dirty blood money into what will turn to paypal, then he bought Tesla from the founders, he did nothing, just channeled money into that, got free handout from government with spacex and many alike situation. Like this guy? There is a billion reason to hate him, he is everything that is wrong with the system.
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Elon knows how to ride the popularity on crypto, maybe he was really into it for a long time. Maybe as early as 2017 wherein he saw a lot of crypto influencers and observed how they did all this publicity stunt.
Now, it benefit him personally, his company and still he is on the coat tail of Doge. As much as we hate hi, this guy is really pure genius, just saying.
Unfortunately there is a huge problem with our world where people worship the powerful, and that has not changed for a long time, at least if they look like they are regular people. It is common to hate Jeff Bezos, nobody really likes him to be honest, but look at the level at Elon, many people love him for how he is, not just what he does but the quirky nerdy type of act he plays. This dude didn't build paypal, he stole emeralds from his dads mine that his dad stole from Africans with brute force, and then sold some, and he was sent to Canada to study and given ton of money, then he built something with his friends which his friends basically built but he had the money to sustain it, then he was merged with what is paypal today and sold his shares, all he did was channel his dads dirty blood money into what will turn to paypal, then he bought Tesla from the founders, he did nothing, just channeled money into that, got free handout from government with spacex and many alike situation. Like this guy? There is a billion reason to hate him, he is everything that is wrong with the system. As unfortunate as this is people are just like that, just look at the reverence celebrities get from the general public, to me this problem has been exacerbated through social media, as in the past even if people revered the celebrities there was still a great deal of distance between them and their fans, but now social media creates the illusion that they are closer to the celebrities or that they are their friends and this makes most people to worship them even more.
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Because this is a forum about cryptocurrencies, and Tesla has invested in Bitcoin, not SpaceX ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, and it's Tesla that accepts payments in BTC and space flights in SpaceX, unfortunately, we cannot buy in crypto. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) When it comes to DOGE, I like dreamers a lot, but businessman like Musk will never agree to accept a payment in a coin that really has no value but just community.
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Because this is a forum about cryptocurrencies, and Tesla has invested in Bitcoin, not SpaceX Elon Musk has revealed that SpaceX has invested its cash reserves in bitcoin, following on from Tesla’s announcement earlier this year that it bought $1.5 billion of the cryptocurrency. That's at least 5 months old news, so it's not clear to me how something like this can go unnoticed by someone interested in Bitcoin? And the reason people focus almost entirely on Tesla is that it's still a car company, and ordinary mortals are much more interested in it than a company that sends people and cargo into space.
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When you are that influential, you can create just a simple thing into your company, post it online and *poof* you are trending again in different social media platforms ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Right now, both DOGE and SHIB didn't make a price increase but as this rumor or news will be spread in the next days there is a possibility that one of these two coins or both of them will pump short term. I agree with what you said, Being famous and influential means being in the spotlight and a role model for many people I was never interested in investing in memecoin even though Elon did marketing about it, what I regret is why it has to be shiba tokens and not other good tokens/coins besides bitcoin lol shiba inu is a memecoin that is hype because of elon and will definitely get a lot of people stuck at a high price
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This guy reached to a level where he is worth nearly 300 billion dollars. Literally 300 billion dollars, he even sold some of his stock and paid a ton of taxes just to prove a point. Don't get me wrong what he has invested so far and what he is building is magnificent for our world, he knows that earth can't sustain the way it is right now and that means we need to go a lot more green right now (which he helps with Tesla) and we will need to leave as soon as possible (which he helps with spacex) and all of that is nice and all.
However he worths 300 BILLION DOLLARS, doesn't that look a bit too excessive for you? I am not saying that we should take his money away, if he reached there then we let him be there, but maybe we should all stop glorifying all these rich people already and stop giving them all of our money because it is %100 damn certain that the stock of Tesla should not be that high but just because he is quirky and funny there are millions of retail investors who buy Tesla stock and made it 10x overvalued.
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November 22, 2021, 10:22:07 PM |
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When you are that influential, you can create just a simple thing into your company, post it online and *poof* you are trending again in different social media platforms ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Right now, both DOGE and SHIB didn't make a price increase but as this rumor or news will be spread in the next days there is a possibility that one of these two coins or both of them will pump short term. I agree with what you said, Being famous and influential means being in the spotlight and a role model for many people I was never interested in investing in memecoin even though Elon did marketing about it, what I regret is why it has to be shiba tokens and not other good tokens/coins besides bitcoin lol shiba inu is a memecoin that is hype because of elon and will definitely get a lot of people stuck at a high price Lots had made out some good profits on that SHIB hype but there are still lots who had been fucked out hard and remains on the peak price and keeps holding because theyve been caught with the dump. Is this something surprising? No its not because this is a very common mistake not only happened now but also in the past where hypes and shills do happen which do really end up on buying a coin basing on what others been suggesting. Result? They've find themselves on the top and ending up on holding like forever yet the coin had never made out that recovery.
On topic reply about Tesla accepting bitcoin payments and other meme coins then well its their company then its the choice or rules to make.
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November 22, 2021, 11:00:55 PM |
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This guy reached to a level where he is worth nearly 300 billion dollars. Literally 300 billion dollars, he even sold some of his stock and paid a ton of taxes just to prove a point. Don't get me wrong what he has invested so far and what he is building is magnificent for our world, he knows that earth can't sustain the way it is right now and that means we need to go a lot more green right now (which he helps with Tesla) and we will need to leave as soon as possible (which he helps with spacex) and all of that is nice and all.
However he worths 300 BILLION DOLLARS, doesn't that look a bit too excessive for you? I am not saying that we should take his money away, if he reached there then we let him be there, but maybe we should all stop glorifying all these rich people already and stop giving them all of our money because it is %100 damn certain that the stock of Tesla should not be that high but just because he is quirky and funny there are millions of retail investors who buy Tesla stock and made it 10x overvalued.
The company accepts Bitcoin as it might be the demand of the people but I don't think if that is because of Doge's stance. Now, Doge is sitting on the corner need supports to gain hypes. But I don't think if Elon Musk will do it again as many people as possible don't buy the hypes again. Well, anyway... I don't think that he is more concerned about the tax, he's getting proud of becoming The number one among the richest people in the world and that he'd likely to keep that record and that is why he uses his money to invest more and more. Kinda be worrying that he forgets to protect his reputation in real life than being in love with money.
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November 23, 2021, 12:55:54 PM |
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The company accepts Bitcoin as it might be the demand of the people but I don't think if that is because of Doge's stance. Now, Doge is sitting on the corner need supports to gain hypes. But I don't think if Elon Musk will do it again as many people as possible don't buy the hypes again.
I don't think its for the demand but rather for the hype they possible want to establish in the market also a marketing strategy for them knowing all who use bitcoin is an investor and they might grab some unit if they see tesla accept bitcoin on their payment options, that's why many people got crazy about those news and been FOMO for certain scenario made by them. I don't think that he is more concerned about the tax, he's getting proud of becoming The number one among the richest people in the world and that he'd likely to keep that record and that is why he uses his money to invest more and more.
Sometimes being rich is so stressful and how much more if you have a status the richest man on earth for sure you will do everything just to retain your position since you will need that status for business and any related unto it since you will earn the respect in business sector.
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