I missed the boat is not new concept..

[aysg76]

That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.

I believe in the theory that these are mostly people who want short-term profits, and when the price is low and relatively stable then they have no motive to invest - and when it is as high as lately, then they wait for a big correction to happen. These are actually very indecisive people, not only about Bitcoin, but mostly about everything they do in life. I know some such people in real life, and I stopped trying to understand them a long time ago - if you've been talking about something for 5+ years and you haven't done anything to make it happen, then no one can help you.

People wait for something revolutionary to happen and when they have it in front of them they have it they just ignore it like anything has not happened yet.Same is the case with these people and they will always have two sided lame excuses which hinders them to see the harsh reality that governments are the ones that don't want the country and people to grow and everything they are doing is for their own personal benefits only.

But still we can't say that we will see less or more of these kind of people and the simple is to just put them aside and keep going the way you find it suitable to progress and for us it's bitcoin that is the best option available to the society.

[Rengga Jati]

Once again, regret is everywhere.
Regret of selling too early
regret of feeling late to buy Bitcoin
confusing about this is the right time to buy or not

We always see some regrets like this, in every period, in every rising up of the Bitcoin price.
And this will not be stoppable because there are so many people here with their own regret.
but should it be?
if this is about the people who always regret it, yes, there must be many people who did it moreover those who have a hundred Bitcoin before 2012 and see the Bitcoin price right now.
But I am also sure that many people from that years too also have many Bitcoin right now and have earning so much money. Because of the patient and trust to Bitcoin

[Saint-loup]

I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.   That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.

This is not a trading guide where i have asked newbies to invest large sums of money as i myself also don't have huge funds available to invest so why would i do that? Second this thread is only indicating to some past mistakes of the members who ignore the bitcoin importance and keep on repeating the same phrase and now regrets it so just avoid those mistakes was my concern.You are saying that i said it to buy at ATH so ask yourself people who have invested at ATH of 2017 which was around $20k are now in loss or dead? They have gained more than 4x on their investment at the current prices.It is just our way of overviewing the things so be wise man.The whole market is risky but the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future.

I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.

[Smartvirus]

The notion of 'I have missed the boat' is just how some prospective investors who would have made a fortune for themselves keep loosing out on opportunities. In that singular instant, you keep waiting and anticipate for a dip, a best time to buy yet, your unable to ascertain or identify this dip even when it comes becuase, the archived dip isn't just dip enough for you and so do the procrastination comes in and the market continues to grow. Making more and more highs and in turn, profits for the investors that took the risk to buy and hodl. Bitcoin have got more future about it than we have it now, should you have a spare cash and  some money you could afford to loose, buy and hodl is key.

[aysg76]

I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.

Actually what i was referring to 2017 crash when bitcoin prices fell below $10k also to the bottom levels and or even lower have gained enough at this time if they have hold till this time as at current we are at $64k so just make the returns.

Second when i said about $20k the rise is about 3.45x and i want to write about it but forgot to mention approximately with it because we have seen peak points at $69k in last rally so from $20k it's around that much returns so my point.

The notion of 'I have missed the boat' is just how some prospective investors who would have made a fortune for themselves keep loosing out on opportunities. In that singular instant, you keep waiting and anticipate for a dip, a best time to buy yet, your unable to ascertain or identify this dip even when it comes becuase, the archived dip isn't just dip enough for you and so do the procrastination comes in and the market continues to grow. Making more and more highs and in turn, profits for the investors that took the risk to buy and hodl. Bitcoin have got more future about it than we have it now, should you have a spare cash and  some money you could afford to loose, buy and hodl is key.

For some dip is the indication to sell and they panic sell and later on regret their decision but for some dip is opportunity to buy and they accumulate more through DCA and that's what we need to learn not from these boat missers as they will always stay the same.

[aysg76]

So now the bitcoin prices are down to $59k and still we are not seeing some people getting on the boat and those who claims it to be expensive will still not invest at these $10k dips which are worth investing but no they will be saying that this is bubble or any other shitcoin will progress more and later on regret same.Just a reminder for you all who wants to invest in Bitcoin or are currently holding it :

If you hold btc just relax and enjoy or the best is to have the btc sandwich with dips that could feed you for entire life.Taking two steps back mean the jungle king is preparing for high jump...

But few days/weeks/months/years we will still see people claiming that we missed the boat and i can give you many such statement.The btc will not wait for you so why do we wait.The simple thing is to buy btc and wait rather than waiting to buy bitcoin.

[dbc23]

The fun isn't going to be as much as it must have been if we were here a bit earlier.

You could've bought bitcoin at $0.1, but who's to say you weren't going to sell when it 10x'ed to $1? It's easy to have regrets when Bitcoin is already successful. But back then, no one knew for sure how big it would grow.

This is where the saying "Bitcoin is for holders" stands true. While Bitcoin was around $0.1 and grew to $100 many sold, some couldn't sell theirs possibly because the misplaced their seed phrase and when the found it they sold out. No one knew Bitcoin would grow this big even uptil now a few people still see Bitcoin as one of those online scam that would disappear into tin air someday

[carolynpatterson]

I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.

[aysg76]

This is where the saying "Bitcoin is for holders" stands true. While Bitcoin was around $0.1 and grew to $100 many sold, some couldn't sell theirs possibly because the misplaced their seed phrase and when the found it they sold out. No one knew Bitcoin would grow this big even uptil now a few people still see Bitcoin as one of those online scam that would disappear into tin air someday

There will always be some percentage who will continue to criticize it,panic sell at loss,say we miss the opportunity to buy and now it's too expensive but you might notice that slowly with increasing btc importance and price rally those who claims it to be bubble have been reduced and now they are the one's applauding the innovation and making speculations that it will cross $100k or so and even banks are providing crypto services.See how time flies and people mindset changes with it but for some it will always be the fiat that is safe and they lack for future foresight.

I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.

If you consider it from the past we are already up 68000% when we touch ATH few days back and just imagine the returns for those who have hold for all these years.It is right that we can still invest at this time even if want to invest low amounts as it's better to be holder if you can't become a whale and it's far better than being a no-coiner.

[tvplus006]

I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.

Indeed, those who got acquainted with bitcoins recently could not buy BTC at a very low price. But this cannot be considered a mistake. But the real mistake for them is the fact that they now know about BTC, but do not buy it to hold. It is such people who will later say that they missed the chance to change their fate.

[aysg76]

Indeed, those who got acquainted with bitcoins recently could not buy BTC at a very low price. But this cannot be considered a mistake. But the real mistake for them is the fact that they now know about BTC, but do not buy it to hold. It is such people who will later say that they missed the chance to change their fate.

We don't have time machine to go back in the past so that we could accumulate btc at low prices of $1 or even $100 because now we know how much it's worth but for those who are waiting to buy them at low price are just imagining this because we can't expect it to go to 2013 levels or so but if you see investing at $58k now and if you hold it for some years and then you read the green candles above $100k you could easily have some decent profits in your hand.But for the boat missers there will always be some excuses for them that it's too expensive or it's bubble so we can't change them so better we hold and buy at these dips.

[Shamm]

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...

Don't feel bad, I sold 5K for 1500€


There are some other members discussing about hundred of owned Bitcoin and selling them at very cheap prices or say some are sad that they only have 200 or 300 coins.Many of them were miners in the early days but what i wonder is whether they still holds all those coins or not?

Here is one more proof to the same:



Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316

I think  if they have that much Btc right now for sure they are one of those millionaires person alive. but remember This is we missed the most world pizza day imagine that he spent 10,000 btc for 2 large pizza.
If he Hodl that btc untill now which is 10,000btc = 590,410,000.00 USD it is sound's good.

[TheNineClub]

Came here to laugh at the 'I have only 600 BTC...' XD The 'Missed the boat' concept has been around with anything and everything. Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, Gamestop stock... Where there is investing, there will be people barking that they are late. However, I doubt this is the case for crypto, at least not yet. My thoughts are that we might be late when we look at the first couple of waves in crypto, but when we look at the grander scale, this is just the start.

[Trojane]

Why haven't we learned to understand that sometimes, privileges are misused not because we don't know if it was a good option or because we don't have anyone to convince us with it but because we never thought that would be the BEST option and decision to make at that point.
 Many peeps had good money back then that they would have probably bought enough coins and indulged fully into crypto but they felt it wasnt necessary and it wasn't coming to STAY' , these was their own perception of thinking, so about missing the boat, i would still keep saying that crypto has come to stay and if you wouldn't wanna remorse tomorrow just like you did today, then TRADE CRYPTO TODAY!!

[aysg76]

I think  if they have that much Btc right now for sure they are one of those millionaires person alive. but remember This is we missed the most world pizza day imagine that he spent 10,000 btc for 2 large pizza.
If he Hodl that btc untill now which is 10,000btc = 590,410,000.00 USD it is sound's good.

At least our pizza guy Laszo Hanyecz who was early bitcoin miner and spent 10,000 bitcoins worth $40 at that time for just two pizzas has no regrets today also even it's worth millions contrary to those who don't have anything or have some btc are making such weird statements that we missed the boat.You cannot ride on two boats simultaneously and you need to make the right decision.Their are actually two boats in world ocean and one is for Bitcoin and the other fiat which has inflation holes that would sink anytime so you decide which way you want to go.

Why haven't we learned to understand that sometimes, privileges are misused not because we don't know if it was a good option or because we don't have anyone to convince us with it but because we never thought that would be the BEST option and decision to make at that point.
 Many peeps had good money back then that they would have probably bought enough coins and indulged fully into crypto but they felt it wasnt necessary and it wasn't coming to STAY' , these was their own perception of thinking, so about missing the boat, i would still keep saying that crypto has come to stay and if you wouldn't wanna remorse tomorrow just like you did today, then TRADE CRYPTO TODAY!!

People are not easily conceived unless they see their personal benefits in it and that's right also like why should we invest in something that's not going to give return but sometimes taking risk at an early age is necessary to make big profits in future and nobody will convince you for that until you make your mind to listen to that person.One need to be visionary and what do you think that who has put in efforts to make millionaires? They themselves make the decision and it should not be influenced by others so make your move accordingly.

[aysg76]

Came here to laugh at the 'I have only 600 BTC...' XD The 'Missed the boat' concept has been around with anything and everything. Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, Gamestop stock... Where there is investing, there will be people barking that they are late. However, I doubt this is the case for crypto, at least not yet. My thoughts are that we might be late when we look at the first couple of waves in crypto, but when we look at the grander scale, this is just the start.

The problem is that you can buy stocks as there is liquidity for them available but for Bitcoin you can't always put the excuse that you did not invest because it was expensive or you thought it will not rise and how long will people are going to give the same old traditional or excuses as if it is an outside matter but until the time they realize that investment is for their own sake and securing future they will have the excuses.Many who might have sold out thousand of coins or lost the hard drives and keys to worth million dollars of btc are are regretting but the most people are still going that way by not investing and keep on repeating that whether to invest or not?

See the price have dipped and ranging between $56-$59k range falling from $67-$69k range which is almost $10k downfall but what people are doing now? Investing or selling? The whales are making the move by investing large sums at dips and other are busy in giving excuses and panic selling.This is not way you can have secured and deflationary future ahead.

[Saint-loup]

I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.

Actually what i was referring to 2017 crash when bitcoin prices fell below $10k also to the bottom levels and or even lower have gained enough at this time if they have hold till this time as at current we are at $64k so just make the returns.

Second when i said about $20k the rise is about 3.45x and i want to write about it but forgot to mention approximately with it because we have seen peak points at $69k in last rally so from $20k it's around that much returns so my point.

You have opened this thread to encourage "newbies" to buy Bitcoin at its ATH with surprising arguments. Do you still think it was a good idea now? As I said to you it's not responsible to incite any beginners to buy a highly volatile (and then highly risky) asset at its ATH. I hope they didn't listen to you, and they read what I wrote and thought about it before doing anything wrong.

[aysg76]

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Firmly believe it was good idea to encourage newbies for investing in bitcoin but also for long term not trading in short term.We all in the market are aware about high volatility of bitcoin like the crash of 2017 when prices fell from it's ATH around $19800 to $3k which is nearly 80% fall in value but what prices we stand at today even after losing significant part from ATH of $69k? We still are at $28k which is $8k above from the ATH of 2017 so don't you think it's profitable decision for bitcoin investment?

How many of holder who have safely and with patience holding bitcoin for years have lost and not gained profits? So what you are saying sound like bitcoin is not going to rise anymore and those obituaries we read them about bitcoin are correct but you will see with time improvement in prices.

The newbies should make their decision and encouraging them is what we all do but if they blame others for it then they have not understood the bitcoin system at deeper level.The prices tend to rise in long run due to many factors like reduced supply with upcoming halving and more and more adoption will push up the prices so the those newbies you are talking about will regret their decision for not investing in it.So the end decision lies with them what's wrong or right.

Need to share a few nice memes, just to cheer you me up.

For me still bitcoin is the best possible option in every manner and will encourage newbie to invest in it as i am not forcing them to invest in it.

[Saint-loup]

Bitcoin is not at $28k it is currently at 23k USD and nobody is able to say it won't drop below that level. $20k and underneath are likely to be reached in the coming days. And no I am not able to say if BTC will manage to make a new ATH in the coming years. Its supply is not "reduced" by halvings, it simply grows less quickly.

[Mpamaegbu]

You have opened this thread to encourage "newbies" to buy Bitcoin at its ATH with surprising arguments. Do you still think it was a good idea now? As I said to you it's not responsible to incite any beginners to buy a highly volatile (and then highly risky) asset at its ATH. I hope they didn't listen to you, and they read what I wrote and thought about it before doing anything wrong.

To be sincere, I don't think it's much risk for anyone buying at this price level. At least, vis-a-vis what price was a few months ago when it hit an ATH of $64k+. Bitcoin has lost around 60% from that ATH with its current price around $23k+. So, to think that effect I don't anyone suggesting to others to buy now is misleading them. This is a nice time to buy in. It may not be a perfect time but it's a good time. A perfect time doesn't exist, anyway, until in hindsight.