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December 10, 2021, 06:40:28 PM Last edit: December 10, 2021, 08:04:15 PM by iamwithyou Merited by OgNasty (2), thsceptic (1) |
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I claimed 0.1etc and got lucky on crash and won 1etc. When I tried to cash out, lol they asked me to deposit 0.1etc and roll over 3 times. This is nowhere mentioned in their original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375243.0. Below are the proofs: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FPFzFXQZ%2Fcashout.jpg&t=663&c=TDHLCCIfuQZolg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FVvnDN4X%2Fsdf15sadf46e41r5we-chatt.jpg&t=663&c=sF2zhKKYNG4lrQ) I am waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to. I suggest you to stay away from this casino who is not even willing to pay 37$, guess what can happen if you play and win big there.Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.
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December 10, 2021, 06:51:25 PM |
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Let me ask you.
Did you claim the bonus freely without a deposit or not? every bonus is always have some wagering section and deposit you should finish first before can't be withdraw not in this casino is always on every casino. I also claiming no-deposit bonus on fortune jack, guess what get balance 300$ and need to wagering 40x times + is also still need to deposit and wagering with real balance as well.
I think would be good, If you can ask them where is the rules of the bonus.
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Doell
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December 10, 2021, 07:03:28 PM |
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maybe their rules have changed ,just try to deposit 0.1 ETC and follow their rules ,if you are right and follow the rules but they don't pay your winnings ,you can complain to community about them ETC.casino of scam ! get a bonus there should be rules that you have to do it as I have seen many times ,it is small chance that free money from the casino can always be withdraw without a deposit !
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December 10, 2021, 07:29:12 PM |
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Maybe you violated their rule or the rules have changed you may try depositing to see if you are rightly qualified for the bonuses and also try to follow all the rules.
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December 10, 2021, 07:32:37 PM |
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Most casinos have wager requirements when you receive bonus before you can withdraw it all. If you have claim bonus with deposit then you are right that they are scam but if not then it's not a scam. Based on their ann thread, they have promo to claim 0.1 etc without a deposit so my guess is you claim. It without deposit therefore the site ask you to deposit 0.1 etc to wager it and withdraw the amount. They have it on their rules that bonus balance cannot be withdrawn if no deposit and wager requirement. Maybe you violated their rule or the rules have changed you may try depositing to see if you are rightly qualified for the bonuses and also try to follow all the rules.
You only need to typw the promo code to receive 0.1 etc. See it in their ann thread.
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December 10, 2021, 07:34:18 PM |
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I waiting for my cash out and I will soon open a scam accusation against them if I have to.
This is already a scam accusation! You just need to move it to Scam Accusations board. The wagering requirement is something you would expect on any winning from bonuses and it's a common practice for all casinos. The only problem here is that they didn't mention this 3x wagering requirement in their ToS. But there is this: 11.1. You cannot withdraw money from your bonus balance. When you deposit your own funds, they are added to your cash balance.
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iamwithyou (OP)
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December 10, 2021, 07:38:25 PM |
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Let me ask you.
Did you claim the bonus freely without a deposit or not? every bonus is always have some wagering section and deposit you should finish first before can't be withdraw not in this casino is always on every casino. I also claiming no-deposit bonus on fortune jack, guess what get balance 300$ and need to wagering 40x times + is also still need to deposit and wagering with real balance as well.
I think would be good, If you can ask them where is the rules of the bonus.
I already wager 10x as it is the minimum cash out possible. So everybody who got a bonus has to roll over 10x, I completed that. There was no rule mentioned in their original thread. I guess they don't have funds they just want to lure some big fish with these scammy promotional attempts. I will ask them to provide proof of enough funds, if not get paid. Most casinos have wager requirements when you receive bonus before you can withdraw it all. If you have claim bonus with deposit then you are right that they are scam but if not then it's not a scam. Based on their ann thread, they have promo to claim 0.1 etc without a deposit so my guess is you claim. It without deposit therefore the site ask you to deposit 0.1 etc to wager it and withdraw the amount. They have it on their rules that bonus balance cannot be withdrawn if no deposit and wager requirement. Maybe you violated their rule or the rules have changed you may try depositing to see if you are rightly qualified for the bonuses and also try to follow all the rules.
You only need to typw the promo code to receive 0.1 etc. See it in their ann thread. I don't trust them a bit now. They allowed me to cash out and it showed waiting so there was no inbuilt system rule which was there, its only after I approached them via live chat they pull up this rule. They will pull up some other tricks after that do not even deposit a single cent.
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December 10, 2021, 07:43:08 PM |
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You are right that there is no where they say about the deposit requirement + 3x wager to cash out the winning from the promo but it does not mean a scam. The site is still new and I do not think they will risk their reputation for such small amount of money because I believe they have spent a lot of money to build the casino.
You can say they are scam if you have made the 0.1 deposit and complete the 3x wager requirement but they do not process your withdrawal. What I can say about this case is, etc casino did not give complete information about the promo and you as the promo taker did not ask about it earlier before taking it.
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December 10, 2021, 07:43:45 PM |
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I don't trust them a bit now. They allowed me to cash out and it showed waiting so there was no inbuilt system rule which was there, its only after I approached them via live chat they pull up this rule. They will pull up some other tricks after that do not even deposit a single cent.
You can withdraw but it won't be processed unless you complete the wager requirement. Anyway, you said you wagered 10 times but I have a question to ask you, what did you use to wager in their site?. Is it the bonus or the funds you deposited?. If you only use the bonus to wager 10 times then you didn't met the wager requirements needed to complete the process of your withdrawal. You must deposit and wager 3 times as what is shown on the image. Most casinos have that requirement where you deposit and wager a total of wager then your withdrawal will be completed and you will receive the funds yoy requested to withdraw.
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December 10, 2021, 07:44:49 PM |
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As far as I can see, your payment has already been processed. Technical support confused your promo code with another "Hashcity" promo code from our partner, for "Bitcointalk" we do not have a wager and additional requirements
Congratulations on your win!
Solved. IMO, there has some miss communication or lack of information about the bonus code. I believe the manager or owner not telling the support assistance about the bonus code "bitcointalk" without need deposit and wager. Check your wallet, If you confirm the withdraw should change the tittle thread.
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December 10, 2021, 08:28:57 PM |
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Bitcointalk does hold the power to make or break a crypto gambling site almost always with exceptions(1xbit etc). Have observed so many sites become successes or failures in this forum over time.
Anyway, congratulations on recieving your winnings op. Honestly, the team shouldn't have messed up processing such a small amount since it's in its initial stages. They need to get their act together if they wish to compete with the big boys.
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December 10, 2021, 09:07:44 PM |
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Bitcointalk does hold the power to make or break a crypto gambling site almost always with exceptions(1xbit etc). Have observed so many sites become successes or failures in this forum over time.
^ Definitely right but I don't think if there is no effect on the target audience, once your gambling casino has been painted red here, most of the gamblers will probably stay away or never visit your gambling casino. A known scam casino is free to operate here because the forum does not moderate scams but DT members can tag and flag them as a warning. If your casino has dozen of negative issues it will surely affect your PR. So once a casino was here to try to promote their casino, they should not ruin their reputation, and congrats to the OP he got his withdrawal.
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December 10, 2021, 09:29:49 PM |
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Although I have not read the promotion terms, I believe this deposit requirement should be clearly stated as part of the offer. Otherwise, it is misleading advertising. From their ANN topic: A promo code has been created for Bitcointalk users that allows them to receive 0.1 ETC without a deposit!
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December 10, 2021, 09:33:49 PM Merited by iamwithyou (1) |
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Edit: I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.
It's great to hear a success story and know that this forum provided you with a voice to be heard and rectified. You usually hear stories of people being scammed here, so knowing that some good came from your posting your experience here is a great thing. Thank you for sharing the end result and I'm glad that you were able to get your money that you fairly earned and rightly deserve. What a great story of using a claim to earn some decent money. You sir just lived the best case scenario. Make sure you don't toss it all back in another casino. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 11, 2021, 12:48:01 AM |
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From your thread, many commented on not trusting you. Although it is realized that there are indeed many scams that occur in forums like this. If I can give you advice, make sure there are things you can trust before making a purchase or deposit.
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December 11, 2021, 01:12:35 AM |
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Bonuses always have the kind of requirements so expect something that you might have to deposit or keep wagering. Why withdraw 1ETC when you still can make it grow. You got it out of nothing, make it bigger this time.
ETC.casino seems new, they are yet to establish thier rep, if they've been here enough already, they may be ever checking for multiple accounts. Case solved anyway. This is still going to be a warning about this ETC.casino though.
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December 11, 2021, 01:25:44 AM |
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Good to hear you can withdraw your profit now.
Honestly this forum doesn't help you anything with your problem, because it's pure from the casino itself. But if you create a legit accusations and if they care with their reputation here, pretty sure they will solve it ASAP or they will get negative trust and flagged.
We've seen so many casino doesn't care with their reputation e.g. 1xbit. So, make sure you play a casino which have a good reputation or still no reputation (not the bad one).
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December 11, 2021, 04:20:32 AM Last edit: December 11, 2021, 05:32:19 AM by YOSHIE |
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OP, I support your complaint against the gambling site (ETC.casino), you are professional at heart, I like the challenges you face, not directly to the target/casino owner, I hope your case doesn't get to the fraud accusation board, hope it can be finished in this thread, if they want to keep their reputation in this forum and In case of any issues later on, great it's all done in this thread.
Indeed gambling sites are mushrooming now, do not know the motive behind the proliferation of gambling sites, whether it's easy to cheat players and a lot of money / income or other things, it is very important to be advised to play and choose a gambling site that is responsible and fair.
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December 11, 2021, 04:55:33 AM |
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Indeed gambling sites are mushrooming now, do not know the motive behind the proliferation of gambling sites, whether it's easy to cheat players and a lot of money / income or other things, it is very important to be advised to play and choose a gambling site that is responsible and fair.
It seems to me that it's like the Wild West, there are many opportunities. The crypto gambling sites, especially the new ones that come out of nowhere can make a lot of money with little investment if they do things half right, especially compared to fiat sites, let alone those that do everything right and buy a license in each country where they accept players and are required to have a license for it. As I commented in another thread, some crypto gambling sites don't even have a license, or have a license from a tax haven, which means that they don't pay taxes in practice. They may offer a better HE (less) which translates into better short term profits for the players. The main problem they have, with the proliferation of so many sites (competition) is to maintain a flow of players to ensure a cash flow with which to maintain the business, and if they do not get it, some try to cheat, destroying their reputation.
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December 11, 2021, 05:21:09 AM Last edit: December 11, 2021, 05:53:40 AM by acroman08 |
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I got my cash out but I am sure I got it because of this forum.
maybe, maybe not. anyway, I'm glad your issue got resolved, and congrats. OP, I support your complaint against the gambling site (ETC.casino), you are professional at heart, I like the challenges you face, not directly to the target/casino owner, I hope your case doesn't get to the fraud accusation board, hope it can be finished in this thread, if they want to keep their reputation in this forum.
it looks like the issue has been resolved. according to the post, ryzaadit quoted there was confusion regarding what bonus OP has. not sure how true their reason is, but at least they resolved the issue. Hey As far as I can see, your payment has already been processed. Technical support confused your promo code with another "Hashcity" promo code from our partner, for "Bitcointalk" we do not have a wager and additional requirements
Congratulations on your win!
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