JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas

[cocadalcan]

Sure we invest into bitcoin based on a presumption that the price is going to go up in the future, so even if the short term might show a downward trend, we are investing into bitcoin based on an expectation that the longer term trend is upwards... Such ongoing upward trend into the future is not guaranteed, even if we are presuming such ongoing upward trend to be present and for bitcoin to be the soundest of assets in existence.

During down trends and low periods investors could get demoralized, yet some of them will continue to invest at all times, including seemingly downward trending times.

Sure, and that's the mentality of real investors that keeps them going, and is worth emulating. For the weak hearted investors, the down trend period are moments of fear and panic and probably selling off of assets to avoid further loss or decay of there assets according to them. They are demoralised to the point they can't manage or control the pressure anymore. But on the other hand, some investors, despite been demoralised, they still believe and Hodl on, knowing and been optimistic, hopefully waiting for the up trend period, pegging there hopes on the possibility of its pump period, offcourse, after the storm, the rain, and after the Rain, am sure it's sunshine, and so, the even keep on buying and still hope and wait, and over the years, bitcoin has not disappointed, and so this believe and hope keeps them going till it eventual happens, whenever it will, no one knows.

And this is why it's best to invest with money we can afford to lose, so that when such down trend in price begins, one is relaxed and avoids panicking over your assets but hanging on hopes that they will move up again, and then you could reap something out of your investments. Knowing the bitcoin is a volatile asset, I think coming into Bitcoin investment with a long term investment plan still remains the best,  nothing beats that(long term investment mentality)

There are 4 types of people in Bitcoin investment, such as:

*Investing with a long-term mentality and selling investments when the investment continues to make profits.
*Becoming a victim of FOMO very easily.
*Making wrong decisions without proper knowledge and falling out of the humanity of investment.
*Managing investments through proper knowledge and management and holding them for the long term.

I have seen many people who are not associated with this forum and they invest, but the mistakes I have noticed among them are these. These people have one or the other mistake in the first three and because of that mistake, they are not able to reach their goals or maintain their returns for the long term. Especially I had many types of wrong knowledge about Bitcoin investment and I have learned a lot since joining this forum. If a person starts investing through discretionary income and then progresses in a balanced manner through investment and knowledge acquisition, he will never make a wrong decision and will continue to hold on for the long term.

Many of them long term investors who create valuable hedges in the market and adjust the market from rapid rises and falls. But those volatile traders who want to get rich quick and push the market towards more volatility. The types you mentioned are largely inconsistent with reality. There are two types of people in the market, one type of people who want to get rich quick in a short time and are traders and the other type of people are long term investors who accumulate Bitcoin through discretionary income and DCA as a long term strategy.
The sooner you can understand the mistakes of Bitcoin investment, the easier it will be for you to find ways to correct the mistakes and smooth the investment. Get rid of the get rich quick attitude through Bitcoin investment and move forward with a long term DCA method.

[Derekfunds]

Only if the income flow is strong will there be continuity in DCA. Only then will mental and economic stress be reduced. And everyone who invests in Bitcoin should always keep a long-term mentality. Whether new or old, all investors should keep a long-term mindset. And old and experienced very few investors who do  short-term trading in Bitcoin. Because they have been with Bitcoin for a long time and have built up a confidence in themselves about long-term holding.

A strong income stream is important for Bitcoin accumulation to be consistent, but it is not mandatory. If the income stream is at a reasonable level, you can still do DCA consistently. A strong flow will allow you to increase your accumulation but even if you have a weak discretionary income, you are still worthy for Bitcoin investment. A poor investor can change their financial situation through consistent Bitcoin accumulation and the stages are based on the income of each investor. Don't wait to become financially strong because Bitcoin and the opportunity are both very valuable. The trend of increasing prices is increasing over time and this consistency will continue in the future.

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

That's why DCA is a great way to accumulate Bitcoin, whether it's volatile or stable price session. There are many benefits to accumulation gradually, one of which is that it's easy to accumulate Bitcoin through discretionary income, which is a great way for investors of any income. If you're a poor person and don't have any other investment opportunities or you don't have the financial capacity but have a discretionary income of $20 or $50 per week, you should start bitcoin. You know that your discretionary income will increase in the future. Let the bitcoin accumulating flow slowly initially.

Accumulating with discretionary income is not a benefit of accumulating gradually perhaps the benefit of accumulating gradually is that you will be able to grow your portfolio sooner and faster than you can ever imagine. Discretionary income is just a fund that are to be used in growing one's portfolio. Your post is somehow contradicting, how will someone still invest in Bitcoin when they don't have financial capacity or when they are poor? When someone is poor and don't have financial capacity there is no way they can be able to get a discretionary income and even after investing if they maneuver it, they will still sell premature because they don't have the capacity.

[Creeper0]

Many of them long term investors who create valuable hedges in the market and adjust the market from rapid rises and falls. But those volatile traders who want to get rich quick and push the market towards more volatility. The types you mentioned are largely inconsistent with reality. There are two types of people in the market, one type of people who want to get rich quick in a short time and are traders and the other type of people are long term investors who accumulate Bitcoin through discretionary income and DCA as a long term strategy.
The sooner you can understand the mistakes of Bitcoin investment, the easier it will be for you to find ways to correct the mistakes and smooth the investment. Get rid of the get rich quick attitude through Bitcoin investment and move forward with a long term DCA method.

We can learn from those who used Bitcoin as a get rich quick strategy (trading or short term investors or Bitcoin gamblers) and lost money because of this move. It is not wise to follow them, but rather we should learn from them. Success is very difficult for impatient people, for them failure is the expected result.

To resonate in investing, we can identify those people who are wise in long-term investing and apply that knowledge in real life. I am not suggesting to follow their steps, but rather to follow their knowledge so that you can become wise in long-term investing yourself. The general advice in long-term investing is to be long-term and manage investments consistently (in the DCA strategy).

[JayJuanGee]

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There are 4 types of people in Bitcoin investment, such as:
*Investing with a long-term mentality and selling investments when the investment continues to make profits.
*Becoming a victim of FOMO very easily.
*Making wrong decisions without proper knowledge and falling out of the humanity of investment.
*Managing investments through proper knowledge and management and holding them for the long term.

I have seen many people who are not associated with this forum and they invest, but the mistakes I have noticed among them are these. These people have one or the other mistake in the first three and because of that mistake, they are not able to reach their goals or maintain their returns for the long term. Especially I had many types of wrong knowledge about Bitcoin investment and I have learned a lot since joining this forum. If a person starts investing through discretionary income and then progresses in a balanced manner through investment and knowledge acquisition, he will never make a wrong decision and will continue to hold on for the long term.

I am having troubles understanding how your categories relate to the various bitcoin-investment ideas of this thread and/or those categories were probably achieved through the assistance of AI rather than an actual human (such as yourself if you happen to be a human?)

I don't have any problem coming up with some new ways of thinking about matters regarding motives and/or behaviors of guys in their bitcoin investment practices, yet shouldn't we try to tie them to the realities of bitcoin as an asset and some of its current dynamics and/or challenges?

For example, your second category really seems like some kind of a trader dynamic - unless you can contextualize such a thing within the context of bitcoin, so if a person is brand new to bitcoin, they surely might feel some FOMO in both establishing their bitcoin position (perhaps based on ideas of their income, yet also ideas of their feeling that they are too late), yet a person is likely to get through that phase of their feelings about bitcoin by establishing their plan and putting their plans into practice... I likely felt some level of FOMO for my first whole year in bitcoin, and I think that surely my own sense of FOMO was mostly resolved (yet not completely) by my developing a sense that I was largely prepared enough for UP... so from my own perspective, there was less sense of panic in regards to my thinking that I did not have enough.

My own sense of current investment dynamics relates to some of the challenges that currently exist in regards to the various ways that bitcoin can be bought and/or held, and surely we have had various paper investment products that could lure individuals away from the burdens of holding the underlying, yet in bitcoin the burdens of holding the underlying are really not that great on a technical level inspite of likely ongoing obstacles (and reverse incentives) that seem to be increasingly being imposed by governments and/or financial institutions... so when normal newbies might be considering if or how they might get into bitcoin, they might not even realize what bitcoin is, and if they do come to realize the difference between self-custody and having their bitcoin held by a custodian (to the extent that they have a claim on the bitcoin or a share)

So surely one aspect of bitcoin investment relates to how we might identify bitcoin as a place to put our value and then build up our bitcoin holdings over time, and another current happenings aspect of bitcoin might relate to what we are actually investing in and the extent to which bitcoin can still be empowered and to grow even if there are a lot of folks putting value into paper products and/or using custodians of one sort or another.

[Obulis]

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

Buying bitcoin consistently regardless of price and condition of the market is better because as you're accumulating bitcoin you wouldn't stress yourself timing the market. DCA is the most preferred and other strategies are also effective for accumulate bitcoin. It is your decision to chose any of these strategies that is suitable for you and they are all effective but I think dca is more effective for accumulating bitcoin over the long term. However to accumulate bitcoin through lump sum is not bad but what is bad is when you're waiting for the price to dip before buy.

DCA helps investors not to keep waiting for the best time that was yesterday and the next best time today/now. Mostly low income earners, DCA helps to keep the buying and the learning going without thinking of when best to actually start or to keep learning without investing.

[Brizi5000]

Only if the income flow is strong will there be continuity in DCA. Only then will mental and economic stress be reduced. And everyone who invests in Bitcoin should always keep a long-term mentality. Whether new or old, all investors should keep a long-term mindset. And old and experienced very few investors who do  short-term trading in Bitcoin. Because they have been with Bitcoin for a long time and have built up a confidence in themselves about long-term holding.

A strong income stream is important for Bitcoin accumulation to be consistent, but it is not mandatory. If the income stream is at a reasonable level, you can still do DCA consistently. A strong flow will allow you to increase your accumulation but even if you have a weak discretionary income, you are still worthy for Bitcoin investment. A poor investor can change their financial situation through consistent Bitcoin accumulation and the stages are based on the income of each investor. Don't wait to become financially strong because Bitcoin and the opportunity are both very valuable. The trend of increasing prices is increasing over time and this consistency will continue in the future.

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

That's why DCA is a great way to accumulate Bitcoin, whether it's volatile or stable price session. There are many benefits to accumulation gradually, one of which is that it's easy to accumulate Bitcoin through discretionary income, which is a great way for investors of any income. If you're a poor person and don't have any other investment opportunities or you don't have the financial capacity but have a discretionary income of $20 or $50 per week, you should start bitcoin. You know that your discretionary income will increase in the future. Let the bitcoin accumulating flow slowly initially.

Accumulating with discretionary income is not a benefit of accumulating gradually perhaps the benefit of accumulating gradually is that you will be able to grow your portfolio sooner and faster than you can ever imagine. Discretionary income is just a fund that are to be used in growing one's portfolio. Your post is somehow contradicting, how will someone still invest in Bitcoin when they don't have financial capacity or when they are poor? When someone is poor and don't have financial capacity there is no way they can be able to get a discretionary income and even after investing if they maneuver it, they will still sell premature because they don't have the capacity.

To invest in bitcoin you don’t have to be the richest man before you can buy and invest in bitcoin, and yes it’s very possible that a poor man can still buy and invest in bitcoin and hold as a long term investor because what he only need to buy bitcoin is just a discretionary income and the discretionary income will only go according to his level. It is true that people’s financial position or situation plays a vital role towards helping them get a discretionary income for buying bitcoin but still it doesn’t mean a poor person can not buy and invest in bitcoin, he can do that by using his discretionary income according to his own level of income flows. If he’s able to sort out his basic financial expenses or needs then he can invest in bitcoin, but if an individual is still struggling to sort out his basic needs for the week or month then he has no reason to buy bitcoin and invest for such period.

[Popkon6]

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

Buying bitcoin consistently regardless of price and condition of the market is better because as you're accumulating bitcoin you wouldn't stress yourself timing the market. DCA is the most preferred and other strategies are also effective for accumulate bitcoin. It is your decision to chose any of these strategies that is suitable for you and they are all effective but I think dca is more effective for accumulating bitcoin over the long term. However to accumulate bitcoin through lump sum is not bad but what is bad is when you're waiting for the price to dip before buy.

DCA helps investors not to keep waiting for the best time that was yesterday and the next best time today/now. Mostly low income earners, DCA helps to keep the buying and the learning going without thinking of when best to actually start or to keep learning without investing.

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

[Olatundespo]

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

Buying bitcoin consistently regardless of price and condition of the market is better because as you're accumulating bitcoin you wouldn't stress yourself timing the market. DCA is the most preferred and other strategies are also effective for accumulate bitcoin. It is your decision to chose any of these strategies that is suitable for you and they are all effective but I think dca is more effective for accumulating bitcoin over the long term. However to accumulate bitcoin through lump sum is not bad but what is bad is when you're waiting for the price to dip before buy.

DCA helps investors not to keep waiting for the best time that was yesterday and the next best time today/now. Mostly low income earners, DCA helps to keep the buying and the learning going without thinking of when best to actually start or to keep learning without investing.

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

Investors who DCA regularly and adjust the size of their reserve fund to match their income are smarter investors. Build a reserve fund to increase the amount of accumulation in the event of a market downturn along with the DCA method because every moment is valuable and it is important to do a full cycle or another cycle of DCA. To properly establish this method in the long term, it should be done through discretionary income and establish an emergency fund because you never know when you will need emergency money.

The DCA method does not put an investor under financial pressure to a large extent because they are accumulating Bitcoin through discretionary income and placing their funds in the right place.

[alankasman]

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

And this is one of the steps that may be right for an investor, and this doesn't have to be limited to investors who can do things regularly by following the DCA method. If others if they are financially strong are capable they will certainly follow the same path. What we need to know is that something that investors have already done is certainly a fairly appropriate method because otherwise they wouldn't want to participate in continuing it. And that is certainly true because Bitcoin investment is always there which makes someone not want to throw it away after experiencing what is in Bitcoin investment because many people are currently interested in doing Bitcoin investment so that the feeling of panic will no longer be felt by someone whose attraction to Bitcoin investment has become a part of his personal life.

[cyberninja2]

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

If they do that I think if we have sufficient finances it is quite feasible for us to follow what these investors do because they are thinking about a systematic way to maintain Bitcoin for the long term.

This approach is not only for investors because Bitcoin investment is open to the public and not exclusively for brands with strong reputations. But if we are capable, we can certainly do the same because of the strength we possess in maintaining by following the DCA method so that what we do runs according to the orderly and aligns with our own expectations.

[Bigjoe33]

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

Buying bitcoin consistently regardless of price and condition of the market is better because as you're accumulating bitcoin you wouldn't stress yourself timing the market. DCA is the most preferred and other strategies are also effective for accumulate bitcoin. It is your decision to chose any of these strategies that is suitable for you and they are all effective but I think dca is more effective for accumulating bitcoin over the long term. However to accumulate bitcoin through lump sum is not bad but what is bad is when you're waiting for the price to dip before buy.

DCA helps investors not to keep waiting for the best time that was yesterday and the next best time today/now. Mostly low income earners, DCA helps to keep the buying and the learning going without thinking of when best to actually start or to keep learning without investing.

Surely, so long as such investor would a able to figure out what his discretionary is, then he could begin immediately not really minding the current market price. And of course, the privilege or freedom that the DCA gives, allowing am investor to start out just in just little amounts, even though he could in reality afford more than that, but this happens when the investor may not have complete confidence and/or knowing the best way to go about his investment (weekly or monthly amount). While he keeps investing, he can finally increase his DCAing amount if he has finally found his bearing or locate the best income management and allocation formula that best suits his income and investment. DCA is actually a beautiful one

[BitBakerr1]

I believe in gradual accumulation and that is even better than those that think they can grab the opportunity to buy at once after the noticed that the price of Bitcoin has dipped. The mistakes these people might be making is accumulate Bitcoin at once when they can buy gradually using only one strategy that will make them to become profitable but the time the market starts another bull movement.
It pays and profitable to buy gradually than buy at once at unstable price.

Buying bitcoin consistently regardless of price and condition of the market is better because as you're accumulating bitcoin you wouldn't stress yourself timing the market. DCA is the most preferred and other strategies are also effective for accumulate bitcoin. It is your decision to chose any of these strategies that is suitable for you and they are all effective but I think dca is more effective for accumulating bitcoin over the long term. However to accumulate bitcoin through lump sum is not bad but what is bad is when you're waiting for the price to dip before buy.

DCA helps investors not to keep waiting for the best time that was yesterday and the next best time today/now. Mostly low income earners, DCA helps to keep the buying and the learning going without thinking of when best to actually start or to keep learning without investing.

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

I’m going to disagree with you for saying that those who follow DCA strategy or method regularly are the only good investors, we have some investors who don’t buy bitcoin regularly, they only accumulated once and they are holding there bitcoin till date which for me is also a very good strategy if you have the finances to do that, some people bought 1 to 5 bitcoin at once and they are only holding it and they are not interested in accumulating regularly and you can’t call them bad investors, sometimes we forget that what may be working well for you may not be working very well for the other person, everyone has their own way to invest, which ever way they choose and it is better for them to hold for long time, then it is good.

Yes, you are right on this one that those who have emergency funds are those who will survive for a long time, that is very correct if you don’t have an emergency funds, you are likely to dip hands into your bitcoin investment in the future but if you have an emergency funds, it will really save you from dipping your hands into your bitcoin investment and that is why it is usually better to have an emergency fund’s as an investor.

[Joeboy]

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

If they do that I think if we have sufficient finances it is quite feasible for us to follow what these investors do because they are thinking about a systematic way to maintain Bitcoin for the long term.

This approach is not only for investors because Bitcoin investment is open to the public and not exclusively for brands with strong reputations. But if we are capable, we can certainly do the same because of the strength we possess in maintaining by following the DCA method so that what we do runs according to the orderly and aligns with our own expectations.

Point of correction, Bitcoin investment isn't a public investment, it is rather an investment for those folks with a discretionary income... I will definitely not stop anyone from making whatever assumptions they feel comfortable with, or rather will I even hold anyone hands from not investing even when they seem to be doing it the wrong way... But then folks should always be aware of the fact that Bitcoin is a long term investment and as such, it requires a part of your income that folks can afford to spare without it affecting other aspect of their life and that income is very well called a discretionary income..

[liasbaa]

Those who follow the DCA method regularly are the only good investors, but to hold Bitcoin for a long time, we need to dominate ourselves more. Because we make the right decisions to sustain our investments, it is better, because those who have set up emergency funds correctly are the only ones who will survive for a long time. Because their Bitcoin investment will not be easily thrown away, so at this time, it is better to be attracted to more investments without panicking, this is the best plan to take risks.

If they do that I think if we have sufficient finances it is quite feasible for us to follow what these investors do because they are thinking about a systematic way to maintain Bitcoin for the long term.

This approach is not only for investors because Bitcoin investment is open to the public and not exclusively for brands with strong reputations. But if we are capable, we can certainly do the same because of the strength we possess in maintaining by following the DCA method so that what we do runs according to the orderly and aligns with our own expectations.

Point of correction, Bitcoin investment isn't a public investment, it is rather an investment for those folks with a discretionary income... I will definitely not stop anyone from making whatever assumptions they feel comfortable with, or rather will I even hold anyone hands from not investing even when they seem to be doing it the wrong way... But then folks should always be aware of the fact that Bitcoin is a long term investment and as such, it requires a part of your income that folks can afford to spare without it affecting other aspect of their life and that income is very well called a discretionary income..

I don't understand what you mean by saying that Bitcoin investment is not a public investment. Anyone can invest in Bitcoin if they have discretionary funds. The point to be made here is that even if you are not earning, you are eligible to accumulate Bitcoin because you have discretionary funds. If an investor thinks that he can accumulate Bitcoin for the long term and can arrange the financial management by fulfilling the conditions of the DCA system, then they should be welcomed.
I accept that fund management is an industry because a low income person can make many impossible things possible through this management. There are many examples around us who earn much less than us but they have been able to improve their situation through the money management industry. They have accumulated Bitcoin as a planned investment for the future and they have held more Bitcoin than you think.