There could be situations in which dip buying might reasonably supplement ongoing DCA buying, yet there is almost no fucking way that such a strategy is superior or that anyone has any reasonable abilities to regularly figure out when dips may or may not happen that would put him into a better place than regular and ongoing DCA.
I think this problem is certainly only for someone who wants to do it as you describe. Many people don't fully understand the concept you're suggesting, so their strategy will involve many mistakes and high risks. However, they still follow their own ideas or their own abilities.
Sure. If someone is a low coiner or a no coiner who happens to be quite skeptical about bitcoin, then that kind of a person will be inclined to take a more whimpy approach to bitcoin accumulation, which I would place "buying the dip" as a strategy into such category that is relatively more whimpy than an ongoingly buying of BTC approach.
They also won't do what you're saying here, even though what you say has many benefits if they do do it. However, they simply don't put themselves in the wrong position, so they still want to continue doing it sustainably.
You might be talking about something else?
The choice to buy bitcoin whimpily (or not to buy) or to buy somewhat aggressively (on a regular basis) is a different question than any questions about the extent to which a guy's buying approach is "sustainable."
In other words, when it comes to accumulating bitcoin any of the placements of the range between whimpy or aggressive would be presumptively sustainable because any investment into bitcoin should be coming from within discretionary income. So if a person has on average $100 per week of discretionary income, he can choose anywhere between $0 and $100 to invest into bitcoin, and all of them should be sustainable to the extent to which he already has sufficient back up funds and he does not have any psychologically undermining desires to discretionarily consume.
Frequently, in the category of "sustainable" investment into bitcoin, I will suggest dividing discretionary income into three parts, and as a default position to presume 1/3 would go into each of the categories of 1) invest, 2) save and/or 3) discretionary consume. Of course, not too many folks would be comfortable with such ongoing mechanical application of their discretionary funds, and even within the meaning of "discretionary" funds, there is choice and/or priority making within the discretionary funds in which at least a wide enough range of reasonableness exists in terms of $0 to $100 can be chosen and from an objective perspective, any of them could be equally reasonable, and so the person uses his own subjective preferences and balances within the range of his discretionary income to determine and to put into practice the amounts that he is going to put into investing, saving and/or discretionary consumption.
Dip buying also puts guys into a waiting rather than a buying strategy, and sure right now, the waiters might appear to be geniuses since the BTC price had extremely dipped in recent times, including getting as low as $59,930 around February 5, yet at the same time, there is almost no fucking way that guys could have had known (or had large confidence) that the BTC price would dip so low or even that it would have had gone below $100k after the October 5, 2025 high of $126,272.
If the current situation is true, as you said more people are waiting than buying.
What is your proof? And, who gives any shits?
It's like you are making a ridiculous and almost irrelevant point that the BTC price is going down because there are more sellers than buyers. Those kinds of observations do not really tell us very much, and surely those kinds of observations hardly inform us regarding what we might consider doing (or not doing) on an individual level.
I am telling you that if a person is not ongoingly buying bitcoin and instead they are incorporating buying on the dip thinking and practices then they are going to be waiting a lot more and they are going to incorporate waiting as part of their strategy.. which gets us back to questions of choice regarding how whimpy or aggressive they choose to be in their approach to bitcoin accumulation, to the extent that they are serious about bitcoin accumulation.
This may be due to some people's perceptions of the Bitcoin market price decline which could continue to decline.
Of course, anyone can perceive that bitcoin prices might go down lower, and they might be correct, and they might not be. Seems like a BIG SO WHAT.
For example the current market price is at $68,000, which we would say is already relatively cheap. However, some people won't buy Bitcoin immediately. The question is, why not just do a DCA? Because they are still unsure about the market price conditions for the next few days, so they would rather wait than act now. This is the reason why those who don't immediately buy Bitcoin at the current price are still worried that the figure will change again, which will certainly happen again with the market price decline.
If you are a long term investor for 4-10 years or longer, and you consider yourself to still be in your bitcoin accumulation phase, then ongoing buying prepares you better for UP as compared to guessing about whether the BTC price may or may not go down further from the current price.
Waiting does not seem like a good strategy for any bitcoin investor who is actually serious about bitcoin investing, yet of course, each person is free to do as he wishes in terms of his chosen level of balancing whimpiness versus aggressiveness.
The highest market price was $120,000 and above, and that happened before entering 2026. The price at that time was quite long because there was only a decline at the end of December and before Christmas. As far as I remember, it also stayed at $95,000 for about two weeks before finally experiencing the current decline.
Again? So what? Through 2025 we had right around 4 ATHs of $109k in January, $112k in May, $123k in July and then the last one of $126,272 on October 6th. And then there has been mostly downward movement since October 6th until present, which would be nearly 5 month.
Were you accumulating during that time or not?
Of course, you personally have been registered on the forum since June 2017, so you would have had a chance to have had accumulated a good amount of bitcoin in the past 7.5-ish years prior to our going into 2025, so you might have had already had chances to accumulate a good quantity of bitcoin prior to 2025.
Surely, how many bitcoin that a person had already accumulated would be
one of the factors to consider in regards to how he might treat bitcoin accumulation and/or if he considers himself to still be in his early stages of bitcoin accumulation versus if he had already gotten a decent stash so that he is focusing on buying on dips rather than ongoingly buying.
For sure, you would already be in quite good shape if you had already been accumulating $100 per week of bitcoin since June 2017, which would put you at right around $46k invested and right around 3.53 bitcoin.
Surely, if you had front loaded your bitcoin investment prior to 2025 (even prior to the Trump pump that started in November 2024), then maybe you could have had just sat on your bitcoin during 2025 and not purchased anymore bitcoin.
So for example, if you had invested the same $46k between June 2017 and October 2024, then you would have had accumulated right around 4.15 BTC prior to November 2024.
In bitcoin's history, there have been advantages to accumulating early and/or frontloading, yet surely so many normal people ONLY have their income as it is coming in rather than abilities to invest lump sums, and personally, it seems to me that it would be better for any newbie, no coiner or low coiner who either is just getting started or considers himself in the early stages of his bitcoin accumulation journey to get started right away and choose his level of aggressiveness in a way that they he is not fucking around waiting, but instead ongoingly buying bitcoin. Sure, if he wants to ongoingly buy bitcoin and hold back 20% for the buying of possible dips, then sure, there is nothing too unreasonable about that kind of an approach to bitcoin accumulation.
In the end, guys have to figure out for themselves whether they are going to invest into bitcoin, and if so, then how they are going to approach their bitcoin accumulation approach so that hopefully they have some chance of reaching overaccumulation status or at least being able to have advantages down the road in a 4-10 year or longer timeline so that they end up with more options by having had invested into bitcoin as compared with if they had not... and yeah, of course, there are no guarantees in regards to the extent to which their approach will pay off, even if they end up choosing a perfect level of bitcoin accumulation aggressiveness, to the extent that such a thing is possible.
And I agree more with your answer because as we know anyone can invest in Bitcoin and use it without any limits. Therefore what our friend said about Bitcoin investment is not a public investment is wrong. Your answer is certainly a lesson for those who have overestimated Bitcoin investment. While someone may have the financial means to invest in Bitcoin sometimes they have no intention of joining. Therefore we should not immediately judge such people because everyone has their own goals. The point is, anyone can invest in Bitcoin, especially sometimes we invite someone without even knowing us to join in accumulating BTC immediately and do it in large amounts. So when we say that Bitcoin investment is not public of course we have done it in large amounts and our goal is only aimed at one person. And in my opinion it is not true that investment is not for the public even though anyone can invest in Bitcoin.
Who will value Bitcoin, it is their personal decision. But a real investor's Bitcoin investment needs to be evaluated first compared to all other investments. Someone who believes in Bitcoin and continues to invest in Bitcoin will never refuse to invest in Bitcoin or will not hesitate to invest even if they have money. However, those who do not believe in Bitcoin and do not want to invest in Bitcoin will be better off not investing. Because the Bitcoin market is very volatile, it is not possible to predict what will happen in advance. So when it falls, they may panic and sell.
Even though we are talking about bitcoin in this thread and not the other various places that time, money and/or energies can be invested, the decision about whether and/or how much to invest into bitcoin does not need to be black and white, which means that position size (or amount invested on a weekly basis or whatever) can be chosen based on level of conviction and/or confidence, so a person may well start investing in bitcoin in a very conservative and/or whimpy way, yet as he learns more about bitcoin and also as he strengthens his cashflow management systems/practices, then he might increase his level of aggressiveness as his conviction, confidence and/or comfort becomes stronger.
It is never a good idea to force or invite someone to invest in Bitcoin. Because if you force or invite someone to invest, they may sell their holdings out of fear of the market falling and may face losses. They may blame you for this loss. Informing someone about Bitcoin is a good idea, but forcing them to invest will never be a good idea.
It does seem to make sense that we should try to make sure that newbies are making their own choices in regards to both whether and how much to invest into bitcoin.
