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Author Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match  (Read 3667 times)
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January 10, 2022, 01:02:54 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
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January 10, 2022, 02:03:30 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.
I think for us boxing fans, it will be Spence vs Crawford for all the marbles as this division and hopefully this fight can be made this year specially if Spence are going to win against Ugas.

But just in case there will be an upset, I don't mind seeing Ugas vs Crawford too. It will be as great fight as well for us. And hopefully though, Crawford can wait for the outcome of this fight and fight the winner and not to get another fight outside of Spence or Ugas.

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January 10, 2022, 03:51:03 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.

That's what most boxing fans are waiting, this division needs to have only on top fighter, the winner between Ugas and Spence will then be possible to face Crawford, In same manner, it's good to see both undefeated fighters showcasing their talents, Spence and Crawford would be another fight that this sport will produce to entertain a lot of fans who are waiting for this to happen.

You mentioned this important info, Crawford is no longer under top rank , very possible that both camps will discuss the possibilities after the fight against Ugas..

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January 10, 2022, 09:16:46 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.

That's what most boxing fans are waiting, this division needs to have only on top fighter, the winner between Ugas and Spence will then be possible to face Crawford, In same manner, it's good to see both undefeated fighters showcasing their talents, Spence and Crawford would be another fight that this sport will produce to entertain a lot of fans who are waiting for this to happen.

You mentioned this important info, Crawford is no longer under top rank , very possible that both camps will discuss the possibilities after the fight against Ugas..

Let us not count Thurman out yet, there's a benefit for him if he wins this match as if Crawford and Spence will not choose to fight each other, they can choose Thurman to fight, and with that, I think it's still a great fight as Thurman is a real champion for me and has a good chance of beating either of the two names mentioned.

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January 10, 2022, 09:45:37 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.
Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.

That's what most boxing fans are waiting, this division needs to have only on top fighter, the winner between Ugas and Spence will then be possible to face Crawford, In same manner, it's good to see both undefeated fighters showcasing their talents, Spence and Crawford would be another fight that this sport will produce to entertain a lot of fans who are waiting for this to happen.

You mentioned this important info, Crawford is no longer under top rank , very possible that both camps will discuss the possibilities after the fight against Ugas..

Let us not count Thurman out yet, there's a benefit for him if he wins this match as if Crawford and Spence will not choose to fight each other, they can choose Thurman to fight, and with that, I think it's still a great fight as Thurman is a real champion for me and has a good chance of beating either of the two names mentioned.

He is a good backup in case these two will not give us that big fight. No more Shawn Porter as Thurman also beat him already. They will be the top 3 in this division IMO if they can win their respective fights and as I also hope that covid-19 will not disrupt this possible boxing match so the fun will continue.

here's the ranking, https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/21675272/divisional-rankings-best-top-10-fighters-per-division

Crawford is in the number 1, followed by Spence, then Ugas. No Thurman but he will be back in the top 3 soon.

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January 10, 2022, 10:38:58 PM
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There is a chance that Pacquiao will come back but how many percent is that "chance"? Less than 1%.

He isn't like Mayweather that will return to the ring after saying that he is retired just for money. I know that Manny will stand to what he said and he said that he will be retiring and he will just help younger boxers to improve. Another one is that, Pacquiao really is committed already to politics because he is helping the people for a long time already and for him he can help more people if he will be the President. Even though many are doubting about him and saying that he can't be the President for many reasons (including me), he did ran for President. Another one is if Pacquiao and Ugas will have a rematch, I don't think that Pacquiao can beat him since he past his prime already that's why he retired.

Spence is really a great boxer and I'm also thinking that he will KO Ugas in less than 10 rounds (my prediction) but it might be a hard fight I think.
Agreed, the career of Manny Pacquiao as a boxer is over, the guy does not seem like the kind of person that is going to return to boxing just to make some money, Manny loved to box and boxing gave everything it could to Manny, but his days are over and now he is concentrated in other aspects of his life like politics, and quite honestly I have no doubts that at some point in time he will become the president of Philippines, so lets hope he can do as good of a job as President of the country as he did as a boxer.
We never know, what if he loses in the election and he spent a lot of money, I think he might try to come back to earn what he lost during the election. This is just a possibility but Manny for me is not yet done in boxing, he can still fight, he only resigned to focus his campaign on the Presidential election.
In a way you are right, we do not know what will happen to Pacquiao from now on, but I really think he is going to stay away from boxing from now on, unlike with what we have seen with Mayweather in which he retired several times only to comeback and fight a few times in order to make money, Pacquiao only retired when he felt that he had done everything that he wanted to do in the world of boxing, so even if he was not elected as President of the Philippines I doubt he will be in such a difficult economic position that he will be forced to box for money once again.
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January 10, 2022, 11:51:53 PM
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Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see Spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.
That's true mate the crowd says that must be better if Spence will win this match cause like you said if Spence will win there's a chance that a big fight will come and both undefeated fighter will face in the match. But if Ugas will win this match this two fighter have a chance to fight against the undefeated fighter Terence Crawford.
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January 10, 2022, 11:58:20 PM
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Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see Spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.
That's true mate the crowd says that must be better if Spence will win this match cause like you said if Spence will win there's a chance that a big fight will come and both undefeated fighter will face in the match. But if Ugas will win this match this two fighter have a chance to fight against the undefeated fighter Terence Crawford.

if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors. if this will be an upset, it will be too bad for spence jr. after 'ducking' pacquiao's fight, he will lose with ugas??
so spence jr should really win this fight, or else, his boxing career will be at question here. a lot are still rooting for him though.
looking at the tale of the tape for this bout, clearly, spence jr has the advantages here but we should not forget that ugas wants to prove something and make a name in boxing. so spence jr should not really take this fight lightly.

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January 11, 2022, 02:15:48 AM
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Fans would want Spence to win so the big fight between two undefeated champions will happen, that will be a big fight in the boxing world if we will see Spence vs Crawford, and now that Crawford is not anymore under the Top Rank promotion, the likelihood of it happening is very close.
That's true mate the crowd says that must be better if Spence will win this match cause like you said if Spence will win there's a chance that a big fight will come and both undefeated fighter will face in the match. But if Ugas will win this match this two fighter have a chance to fight against the undefeated fighter Terence Crawford.

if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors. if this will be an upset, it will be too bad for spence jr. after 'ducking' pacquiao's fight, he will lose with ugas??
so spence jr should really win this fight, or else, his boxing career will be at question here. a lot are still rooting for him though.
looking at the tale of the tape for this bout, clearly, spence jr has the advantages here but we should not forget that ugas wants to prove something and make a name in boxing. so spence jr should not really take this fight lightly.

Thanks for the tale of the tape, but usually in this high stake fights, this stats are not being consider by the bettors. I mean they look for the intangibles like how they fare in their previous fight and how resilient the fighters are specially if they have been in trouble but was able to make a comeback and win. I think Spence was push by Porter in his last fight but was able to win. While Ugas seems to dominate Manny and even if Manny tries to rally, Ugas has the answer and close out the show for good.

 
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January 11, 2022, 10:34:50 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.
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January 11, 2022, 11:07:29 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.
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January 12, 2022, 12:01:50 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.

Of course, that 1.50 is still very attractive for bettors who are trusting the undefeated boxer to win here. Ugas is not really at the level of Spence and Crawford, and since these two are the top champions in their division, there's no way Ugas who beat the old Pacman will beat either of the two.

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January 12, 2022, 02:03:32 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.

Of course, that 1.50 is still very attractive for bettors who are trusting the undefeated boxer to win here. Ugas is not really at the level of Spence and Crawford, and since these two are the top champions in their division, there's no way Ugas who beat the old Pacman will beat either of the two.

The odds will not likely have a significant move.

As for the odds below, Spence is only 1.29 if converted into decimal, of course, that is not attractive, therefore better go for the KO win as I'm sure it has higher odds.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/errol-spence-jr-v-yordenis-ugas
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January 12, 2022, 03:57:46 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.

Of course, that 1.50 is still very attractive for bettors who are trusting the undefeated boxer to win here. Ugas is not really at the level of Spence and Crawford, and since these two are the top champions in their division, there's no way Ugas who beat the old Pacman will beat either of the two.

If those who believed that Spence can outright win, they yeah why not, I'm read before that there are even some gambling whales willing to bet on 1.1-1.2 odds with huge money in Las Vegas in a boxing match.

So probably we will see a lot of those whales who are going to pour money on Spence because that is a good odds for them.

But for the majority of us, who also loves to bet on the underdog, maybe we will take a closer look at the odds and put our money on the best odds we know that will give us a good pay.

 
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January 13, 2022, 05:15:10 AM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.

Spence is not as active as Ugas, that's another thing to consider also although Spence is very good on paper we upset happen like what happened with the games between Ugas and Pacman. If the odds of Ugas will be so undervalued, then I might change my mind and will put my bet on Ugas, I'm sure he will not go down easily if he losses in the fight.
Ugas is undoubtedly one of the best boxers out there, and if he has more activity for now, which in boxing this is very beneficial, on the other hand Spence is not a boxer to measure in terms of a statistic as such, Spence has A lot of skill and his training is very hard, I know that Ugas has proven to be a very strong boxer, but with Spence I think things could change, if the fight were already, I don't know which way to lean, I think I still have many doubts.

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January 13, 2022, 08:58:27 AM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.

Spence is not as active as Ugas, that's another thing to consider also although Spence is very good on paper we upset happen like what happened with the games between Ugas and Pacman. If the odds of Ugas will be so undervalued, then I might change my mind and will put my bet on Ugas, I'm sure he will not go down easily if he losses in the fight.
Ugas is undoubtedly one of the best boxers out there, and if he has more activity for now, which in boxing this is very beneficial, on the other hand Spence is not a boxer to measure in terms of a statistic as such, Spence has A lot of skill and his training is very hard, I know that Ugas has proven to be a very strong boxer, but with Spence I think things could change, if the fight were already, I don't know which way to lean, I think I still have many doubts.


There's still time left to analyze where you will lean. Both are champions, this fight is the battle of champions but only one will win. Ugas is definitely the most active but we know Spence is the most talented, so you need to choose based on that criteria, if you believe hard work beats talent then most likely Ugas will be the right bet.

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January 13, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.

Of course, that 1.50 is still very attractive for bettors who are trusting the undefeated boxer to win here. Ugas is not really at the level of Spence and Crawford, and since these two are the top champions in their division, there's no way Ugas who beat the old Pacman will beat either of the two.

If those who believed that Spence can outright win, they yeah why not, I'm read before that there are even some gambling whales willing to bet on 1.1-1.2 odds with huge money in Las Vegas in a boxing match.

So probably we will see a lot of those whales who are going to pour money on Spence because that is a good odds for them.

But for the majority of us, who also loves to bet on the underdog, maybe we will take a closer look at the odds and put our money on the best odds we know that will give us a good pay.

Whales can take that because they have a lot of money and that 10% win is already significant for them. For a Typical gamblers who bets $10, I think winning 10% is not satisfying at all, so we are really looking for good odds, if we can't find it in ML bet, then we can use the handicap or other market just to get an attractive odds.

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January 13, 2022, 12:57:15 PM
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if we will have a poll on this match, i believe spence jr will still be the favourite here by bettors.

Favorite to win the match or the usual favorite as interest?

I don't see most bettors will put a stake on Spence Jr. if the odds will be around @1.5 unless willing to take the risks since to them, it's a sure win for Spence. Even I'm rooting for Spence to win, I want to see the odds first and if Ugas has big odds, I might consider placing a bet for him. Who knows.

Can't believe his eye injury will be fully healed in March or April unless it's not a big issue before but just take it as a reason for skipping Pacquiao's fight.

If it will not drop below 1.50, I think it's a good odds for Spence knowing that he is a great fighter who can take down Ugas for sure. As of now, we have no idea of the odds but one thing is sure is that Spence will be listed as the favorites to win the fight, so let's just hope an attractive odds for Spence so we will bet right away.

Of course, that 1.50 is still very attractive for bettors who are trusting the undefeated boxer to win here. Ugas is not really at the level of Spence and Crawford, and since these two are the top champions in their division, there's no way Ugas who beat the old Pacman will beat either of the two.

If those who believed that Spence can outright win, they yeah why not, I'm read before that there are even some gambling whales willing to bet on 1.1-1.2 odds with huge money in Las Vegas in a boxing match.

So probably we will see a lot of those whales who are going to pour money on Spence because that is a good odds for them.

But for the majority of us, who also loves to bet on the underdog, maybe we will take a closer look at the odds and put our money on the best odds we know that will give us a good pay.
Not me though, I'm not a whale so I won't take that ML bet.

And as you have said, underdog, that the clear message here, Ugas has done it before with Manny, he was the clear underdog on that fight but he went thru he needle and win.

But if we think that Spence can beat him, then we will look for better odds for Spence, maybe per round or by decision in the end.

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January 13, 2022, 01:00:56 PM
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Both of them has something to proved, Spence wanted to remain on top of this division, while Ugas wanted to show that his win is no fluke against Pacman.

And this is a great style matchup, both can be aggressive and can also play defensive and then be a counter puncher so this is really a great fight in paper although Spence will be the favorite but it will be more closer that we anticipated it to be.
Yes you are right there mate this two fighter want to prove that they are the best  in their division . If spence will win this match then it makes sense that Spence is still undefeated and the best. But if Ugas will win this match I think that's the time that Ugas will be known in everywhere cause this fight is the one of those biggest fight of ugas sense spence is undefeated and very popular in the world of boxing.

And that is what I'm trying to explain, plus both are in their prime years of their boxing, so it's really a hard call right now. Although in paper, Spence is the favorite.

Ugas though is not that far away, he has been in this division for many years and maybe it's about time that his name will be in the discussion because we have been talking about Spence vs Crawford and now we have new name in Ugas that can throw this division off.

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