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November 17, 2022, 01:36:17 PM
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In all this case i always wants to support the person and not the casino, but... the more time i spend here the more i cant back some people.

All this problems we read here in a ton of post against little casinos are always the same and we have the same fucking patron.

A newbie comes and claim some thing, and he play a big money on a little casino, the casino refuse him to pay, and the story begun.

But all this stories have the same trouble and its in his roots, and for that im coming more and more  scpetic.

WHY and i say again WHY, you play a considerable ammount of money in a little and not well know casino, and WHY if you want to win dont go and play in the BIGGERS one like BET365, BETTSON, STAKE, etc etc etc?

aew itself post how low its the trafic in OWL, so why you play here?. How do you find OWL? i only can fin OWL here, in the regular web OWL its a grain of sand on the beach.

Yes i have the answer surely this casino has low infrastructure and its more easily to cheat or its more easily to extort.

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November 17, 2022, 03:39:32 PM
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I will repeat once again that I am an active gambler and have tried many crypto casinos.

Won stake.com 26k and 23k this summer (withdrawals received in minutes, no KYC and or additional reports)

Won 6k on Bitsler.com this March, paid out in a few minutes

In same month of March, 6k was won on duelbits.com with sports betting (7 days need wait until confirmed by KYC, but after confirmation winnings were paid out)

Also, this year I won twice in BC.game, first win 26k, next 28k (both wins paid within 12 hours, no KYC and no account locks)

with BC.game already had a situation when we were waiting for a response from the game provider and whole process did not take more than 12 hours.

And OWL.games presents itself as number 1 WEB 3.0 casino, their token is stable, so I don't really understand why I shouldn't play in such a casino?


This kind of investigation typically take some time not just because they are waiting for the provider response but also they are doing some careful analysis on your case. The amount involved is not just a penny so it's normal for the casino to have a slow response. You can check how other reputable casino timeline on handling this case. Some take months or more for a case to have a clear result since you are not the only customer that they are handling.

Be patient. Forum members is on your side in case Owl didn't provide a satisfying explanation.

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November 17, 2022, 06:36:26 PM
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And OWL.games presents itself as number 1 WEB 3.0 casino, their token is stable, so I don't really understand why I shouldn't play in such a casino?

I read through this entire piece but I can't make anything out of you last paragraph, are you you saying owl is a good choice since you mentioned that their the number one web3 casino and also hard a stable coin, or you are trying to express some form of doubt in the casino as the top web3 casino?
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November 18, 2022, 10:25:16 AM
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To Owlgames i removed my replies supporting the guy who accused you before andi apologize to Owlgames
The guy turned out to be a scammer .
Becareful before paying him for his fraudulent activity 

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November 18, 2022, 01:20:14 PM
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To Owlgames i removed my replies supporting the guy who accused you before andi apologize to Owlgames

I take it you withdrew your support for that guy? Was it before or after you asked him for money for your "support"?  Grin

Yes, he already asked me for money.
https://ibb.co/yQ7SgSx


The guy turned out to be a scammer .
Becareful before paying him for his fraudulent activity 

Do you have any evidence for that?
Although, according to this thread, it looks like you are the real scammer here.

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November 18, 2022, 02:10:49 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2022, 02:40:34 PM by Coin_trader
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From series on how other casino companies work:
a couple of days ago I showed that I played at 500.casino, today I decided to deposit another 2k USDt, total result - I win 16k usdt.

proofs:
https://500.casino/?share=63777ef3f69e996da613a12c&shareType=casino
https://ibb.co/v1MS1xD (win photo)
https://ibb.co/CtNVQJx (withdrawal photo)
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x82f2a1c704b19d14bd5297aa1170f94043da56342abc23020746142a58dae076 (received withdrawal from 500.casino in 15-20minutes)

So decide for yourself. I have presented a lot of evidence.


Do you play same games and do you win same amount of money on other casino? Besides your withdrawal only show you withdraw 5000USDT and only part of your 16K win while on Owl casino you win 85K which is far higher than your win on this new casino that you are using to prove your case.

What I don’t understand is why you keep badgering Owl while they already gave you an answer that they are waiting your game log audit first. Are you pressuring Owl to release the funds to avoid the audit? If you are confident, you should wait since your case is still fresh.



Seems he didn't checked the recent news about owl.games, where they suspense the account just won $85,000. Recent update from owl.games is just removing all Bgaming gamea from their site, which still questionable, how could they didn't get in contact with their game developer until now? Not trying to defend anyone, but it's just took very long time to solve this problem

It's seems that you and @aew is not reading the latest update of Owl representative carefully before posting an attack or doubt here. You should hold your horses and wait for the Owl official decision regarding this matter.


It seems you are the one who not read carefully what i said, better to re-READ TWICE before post something on here. I have said they removed all bgaming games as you qouted that.

Again, How come removing the bgaming games is questionable while it’s just a safety precaution for a possible exploit on that game since the investigation is still running?  Are you suggesting to keep the game running while there’s still a threat of exploit? That’s what I’m trying to say when I bolded the part of your statement. The user can create multiple account and do the same thing if the game is not removed. There might be a technical problem n Owl itself that’s why it can be cheat. And also Bgaming is the one who suggest it.  

My previous comment is for your comment about questioning the Owl action on removing games as part of there safety precautions on the current issue.


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November 18, 2022, 11:41:28 PM
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This user is a scammer, he wrote me a private message suggesting to ask bgaming about the report because he has a friend who works there,
When someone offers a help and tells that he's got a friend from that company, that's already the sign for me as a red flag. I've been into many casinos and exchanges and I have experienced that personally.

Update at November 18, 2022, 12:19:52 PM ,

OWL.games canceled my first $10k withdrawal and asked me to make $2k first,

2k withdrawal already received.
and 8k payout is pending confirmation.

https://ibb.co/0tqpqw9
Let's wait for it but I have that feeling that it will proceed. However, did they say any reason why it has to be withdrawn in batches and you have to take the $2k first out of the whole $10k?

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Last edit: November 19, 2022, 06:10:32 AM by owlgames
 #1068

so more updates here.


Since our risk team has unlocked cryptostuneris acc, we disabled his access for playing slots games since we are still waiting for the risk report.

We processed 2k withdrawal for him. He sent another 8k withdrawal which is now pending.

He since started to play the dice game and once won. But he lost 70k of his profit now and only got the 8k profit pending withdrawal.

Our dice has a max bet of $500 so it took him really a long time playing since there were ups and downs.

Like we suggested before, if your winnings are fair and legit you will get them anyway. I do not understand.

What I do not understand more is that you cursed on our support team.



Can't we just do business politely?

Again, we advise you to our risk team regarding settling your case, our last check with them, they said they did not get any email from you.



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I am confused by his talk regarding OWL token price tho. Our token price is very stable and has more than $500k liquidity on PancakeSwap alone.









I do think OWL token has out performed most of tokens during this market.

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November 19, 2022, 11:24:31 AM
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yes,
 
OWL.games don't lie, I lost most of my winnings,

You mean after waiting this long you lose all your earnings that is bad it's a huge amount I don't want to blame you but you should have waited

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and congratulations to them, they won. A basic casino tactic is to not pay out the winnings and let gambler play until the winnings are lost.
That's true it's a delaying tactic if they have received the report and shown it and paid you you could have received your payout.

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but there are many more interesting details..  Grin

This morning I was contacted by OWL.games support stating that I need to sign a contract if I want my payout to be approved. in which I undertake to delete negative comments. Are you serious?
This is not good it's like bribing you, we gamblers can say what we want to say based on how the casino treat us, no casino should threaten you or bribe you for doing something that is true to your knowledge



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P.s For more than a week, we have been waiting for reports from game provider. And now that I've lost most of my winnings, is it enough to sign a contract promising to delete negative comments?
Casinos should be open to criticism and address issues as they come not threatening them to do something





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November 19, 2022, 12:01:00 PM
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@cryptostuneris, are you required to play on other games before you can withdraw or you just became impatient on waiting. I’m already starting to believe that your profit is legit since they allow you to play it again on other games that has low max bet so that you will lose due to house edge.

@owlgames, Please provide the full transparent report on his game log before you will close his case since we need to know if he really cheat or not because you should take some liability in case his game is really clear from cheat since he loss his money due to messing around on his account.

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@cryptostuneris, are you required to play on other games before you can withdraw or you just became impatient on waiting. I’m already starting to believe that your profit is legit since they allow you to play it again on other games that has low max bet so that you will lose due to house edge.
Although I'm a holder of Owltoken I feel that OP deserves his rewards based on how he proved himself but unfortunately, he is tempted to play with his winnings after his account is unlocked and the report is not yet available, he falls to the old tactics of casinos to delay the withdrawal of winnings so the player will be tempted to play and eventually lose.

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@owlgames, Please provide the full transparent report on his game log before you will close his case since we need to know if he really cheat or not because you should take some liability in case his game is really clear from cheat since he loss his money due to messing around on his account.

Its a long delay and they benefit from the delay this is unfortunate but the community still wants to see the report we cannot stop the complainant from taking action against Owlgame because he feels there is an injustice done to him.

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What I do not understand more is that you cursed on our support team.


Even I can understand the frustration on his side. You allow only to withdraw his initial deposit and unfreeze his account while his asset is stuck in there. Obviously his money is just trap without the game he is comfortable to win.  Cheesy

I’m disappointed on the guy because he just lose all his money after all the persistent attack on this thread just to make his account active again. Why attempt to withdraw all at one try instead of doing a initial withdraw. Is they instructed you to withdraw only 2k?

I really thought that Owl is right on this case but allowing you to recover the means they do a false accusation.

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I have not followed all the drama in this topic, but you are saying some serious allegations so please post some new screenshots here that back up your story. What I understood is that you had a huge withdrawal and that Owl.games needed some time to verify everything (which is normal) and that they already processed one of your withdrawals.
In the mean time, you were impatient and lost some of your funds by gambling and you blame Owl.games for that loss. Please correct me if I am wrong.



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November 19, 2022, 05:01:06 PM
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yes,
 
OWL.games don't lie, I lost most of my winnings,

You mean after waiting this long you lose all your earnings that is bad it's a huge amount I don't want to blame you but you should have waited

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and congratulations to them, they won. A basic casino tactic is to not pay out the winnings and let gambler play until the winnings are lost.
That's true it's a delaying tactic if they have received the report and shown it and paid you you could have received your payout.

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but there are many more interesting details..  Grin

This morning I was contacted by OWL.games support stating that I need to sign a contract if I want my payout to be approved. in which I undertake to delete negative comments. Are you serious?
This is not good it's like bribing you, we gamblers can say what we want to say based on how the casino treat us, no casino should threaten you or bribe you for doing something that is true to your knowledge



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P.s For more than a week, we have been waiting for reports from game provider. And now that I've lost most of my winnings, is it enough to sign a contract promising to delete negative comments?
Casinos should be open to criticism and address issues as they come not threatening them to do something





@cryptostuneris, are you required to play on other games before you can withdraw or you just became impatient on waiting. I’m already starting to believe that your profit is legit since they allow you to play it again on other games that has low max bet so that you will lose due to house edge.
Although I'm a holder of Owltoken I feel that OP deserves his rewards based on how he proved himself but unfortunately, he is tempted to play with his winnings after his account is unlocked and the report is not yet available, he falls to the old tactics of casinos to delay the withdrawal of winnings so the player will be tempted to play and eventually lose.

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@owlgames, Please provide the full transparent report on his game log before you will close his case since we need to know if he really cheat or not because you should take some liability in case his game is really clear from cheat since he loss his money due to messing around on his account.

Its a long delay and they benefit from the delay this is unfortunate but the community still wants to see the report we cannot stop the complainant from taking action against Owlgame because he feels there is an injustice done to him.


I believe that this is not looking good for the Owl team right now, and before we accuse them let’s give them one more chance to explain what happened between these two sides. Furthermore if the allegations turn out to be true I’ll be disappointed, because I have followed their journey closely and I always felt that they were a legit casino hence I want to hear more in details before picking a side to back in this allegation.
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November 19, 2022, 07:00:20 PM
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First. we unlocked his account so he can at least get his initial deposit back and because he constantly complaint (and other members in the thread argued) that his account should NOT be banned while waiting for security checks.

2nd, while we are waiting for the security checks, it's standard that he can't play slots games.

3rd, NOBODY forced him to play and he once won in dice game. Also as we do have a $500 bet limit so it takes a lot of time losing around 70k profit. He can stop anytime and choose not to play in the beginning.

4th, If he wants to get his 8k profit, we will need him to delete his spamming messages. When we pay, we pay. We do not pay for spams.

5th, we are still waiting for the security reports.

6th, while he previously mentioned 80k profit is life changing, it seems 8k is ignorable for him. We do not feel like the drama. Which story of yours is true? The BGAMING staff friend?  It seems to us you are inpatient and full of dishonest & irresponsible talks.


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Am not saying this agreement and statement from the owl team is right but to a great extent what I can make out of this is that all owl wants the player to do is to be patient and also withdraw the negative comments posted here or on another platform about his case. But the hard job for the user is how will he know those spam comments the team is referring to.

And secondly how the team intends to score his compliance to this agreement when and if the player decides to go by this agreement and for what duration?
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November 19, 2022, 08:16:49 PM
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yes,
 
OWL.games don't lie, I lost most of my winnings,

and congratulations to them, they won. A basic casino tactic is to not pay out the winnings and let gambler play until the winnings are lost.

A terrible turn of events, but I don't think they forced you to keep gambling. It's a bit of a shame you were dragged into it, but considering the circumstances I think it's safe to say that it's entirely your fault. You didn't have to give in to temptation.

but there are many more interesting details..  Grin

This morning I was contacted by OWL.games support stating that I need to sign a contract if I want my payout to be approved. in which I undertake to delete negative comments. Are you serious?

I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but those seem like reasonable terms. Why would you have an issue with that?

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November 19, 2022, 09:01:13 PM
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First. we unlocked his account so he can at least get his initial deposit back and because he constantly complaint (and other members in the thread argued) that his account should NOT be banned while waiting for security checks.

2nd, while we are waiting for the security checks, it's standard that he can't play slots games.

3rd, NOBODY forced him to play and he once won in dice game. Also as we do have a $500 bet limit so it takes a lot of time losing around 70k profit. He can stop anytime and choose not to play in the beginning.

4th, If he wants to get his 8k profit, we will need him to delete his spamming messages. When we pay, we pay. We do not pay for spams.

5th, we are still waiting for the security reports.

6th, while he previously mentioned 80k profit is life changing, it seems 8k is ignorable for him. We do not feel like the drama. Which story of yours is true? The BGAMING staff friend?  It seems to us you are inpatient and full of dishonest & irresponsbile talks.


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Owl.Games Please don't act like a saint . Instead of only  blocking OP's withdrawal request until Bgaming provider checks betting activities of the user , not only did you go go against your terms to ask for unnecessary KYC but you also decided from the start to criminalize OP even before investigations were done .  The outcome of OP betting all his balance is the best situation for you at this moment . I hope all reputable members in this forum notice your unethical and unprofessional behaviour and tag your account to protect future potential users coming from this forum .

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November 22, 2022, 01:56:14 PM
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Hello,

I inform you that problem is solved. We made an agreement with OWL.games, I have no complaints.

Anyone waiting for proof from OWL.games about their bankroll, I can vouch that they have quite a lot of it, as I got much more than 8k USDt.

Thanks to the community and the OWL.games team, I hope we all learned from this situation.   Smiley
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Hello,

I inform you that problem is solved. We made an agreement with OWL.games, I have no complaints.

Anyone waiting for proof from OWL.games about their bankroll, I can vouch that they have quite a lot of it, as I got much more than 8k USDt.

Thanks to the community and the OWL.games team, I hope we all learned from this situation.   Smiley

I don't really get it. Why you take $8k instead of $85k from your report before? Because you are afraid you won't get anything if you continue this, so you are ok with $8k?
I do remember you said their bankroll was only around $300k and it's small compared other casino, but now you said they have quite a lot of it, plot twist?
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November 22, 2022, 03:10:25 PM
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Hello,

I inform you that problem is solved. We made an agreement with OWL.games, I have no complaints.

Anyone waiting for proof from OWL.games about their bankroll, I can vouch that they have quite a lot of it, as I got much more than 8k USDt.

Thanks to the community and the OWL.games team, I hope we all learned from this situation.   Smiley



It has been a rough process and we had our misunderstandings before.

We are glad that we have finally reached an agreement to resolve this issue for both parties.

The player got a winning amount which he deserved and satisfied with. And we are happy that we have cleared our names.

If you have any questions regarding the gaming platform please reach us via our 24x7 support chat on owl.games website. We do not pick up tickets on bitcointalk forum.
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