Who is really controlling the Bitcoin market.

[Abiky]

Panic and not patience are normal, not everyone can handle this well. At least, don't rush to decide anything, learn and analyze everything first before deciding something. Many people become victims of whales' manipulation because they rush to sell their coins or buy any coins. Also, the people who don't understand how whales work, probably those who never learned about crypto market trends. That's why learning and research (analysis) are very necessary for investors or traders.

Of course. You should never be intimidated by whales' market manipulation, since they only do what they consider best for their pockets. If you're smart, you'd take advantage of Bitcoin's ups and downs to make profit in the short term. It's all about playing the game in order to become financially independent in this wild and crazy world of crypto.

Believe me, not all that glitters is Gold. There are tons of coins that are hyped, but not all of them provide real use cases in the mainstream world. "Meme" coins like Dogecoin and Shiba Inu are basically useless, since their price is only driven by speculation. Not like Bitcoin where price is driven by real demand. The pioneer cryptocurrency is extremely useful as a store of value and a cross-border payment system that is censorship-resistant. It doesn't matter if it goes down the drain now, since the best is yet to come. As long as you buy low and sell high, you'd have nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts

[Finestream]

Let the whales do the manipulation, we can't stop the manipulation of the whales, but as long as we don't panic and can be more patient, everything will be fine.

Panic and not patience are normal, not everyone can handle this well. At least, don't rush to decide anything, learn and analyze everything first before deciding something. Many people become victims of whales' manipulation because they rush to sell their coins or buy any coins. Also, the people who don't understand how whales work, probably those who never learned about crypto market trends. That's why learning and research (analysis) are very necessary for investors or traders.

There's no way we can stop the whales' manipulation, so its either we'll learn to ride with it and make profits. But for most newbies, this brings more threat for them so they easily panic and resort into panic selling and create losses in the end.

However, no one can control the bitcoin market and even create a precise prediction for its price. Although everyone has the right to predict, but not everyone is able to make right predictions  as we are just into wild speculations and educated guesses.

[dunfida]

Let the whales do the manipulation, we can't stop the manipulation of the whales, but as long as we don't panic and can be more patient, everything will be fine.

Panic and not patience are normal, not everyone can handle this well. At least, don't rush to decide anything, learn and analyze everything first before deciding something. Many people become victims of whales' manipulation because they rush to sell their coins or buy any coins. Also, the people who don't understand how whales work, probably those who never learned about crypto market trends. That's why learning and research (analysis) are very necessary for investors or traders.

There's no way we can stop the whales' manipulation, so its either we'll learn to ride with it and make profits. But for most newbies, this brings more threat for them so they easily panic and resort into panic selling and create losses in the end.

However, no one can control the bitcoin market and even create a precise prediction for its price. Although everyone has the right to predict, but not everyone is able to make right predictions  as we are just into wild speculations and educated guesses.

Manipulative kind of act would be always a whales specialty whenever they do see opportunities for them to make profits then this is where they do make out involvement and there's no way to stop those big players

on the top on making out significant move which could really make out some significant impact on the market but somewhat this market isnt something that could be easily be controlled considering the circulation

doesnt only rotates on them or simply it has circulated around the community which means it is not 100% that they would really be leading off.

[kawetsriyanto]

Weak hands are mostly affected by this whale's manipulation because they easily panic and decide to sell their coins without even thinking its consequence. But if they only went to research first and create good analysis, they will not tend to loss in the end.

Indeed. Weak hands or those people who have lack knowledge about crypto market, probably are affected by the manipulation since they don't understand it. While experienced holders and smart people who always analyze the situation carefully, won't be affected because they know that it is only manipulation made by the hungry whales.

~ those negative news and events create negative effects in the market which will result into sudden decline of the crypto prices.

Those negative issues are probably created by the whales, then they spread the issue on the forum or social media. They know some people can be panic about the issues, so they can take advantage of it. Sadly, still many people can be affected because they are not careful enough to analyze the issues.

As long as you buy low and sell high, you'd have nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts

100% correct. Even you are affected, as long as selling at a higher price you still make profits. 

[Dhaniii]

I think it's about who has more power over the market and who can control the bitcoin market at the moment. For that I can analyze according to the current market condition if the market can be controlled by the owner of the largest asset holder.

[Danydee]

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.We can see that the bitcoin market is going up and down a lot now. The market would be very stable if we knew exactly who is controlling this market.

the market would be more stable, or very stable, if he's use for transacting, payments.. etc. is greater..
the equation is simple:
more regular transactions = bigger velocity = price more stable .

I think it's about who has more power over the market and who can control the bitcoin market at the moment. For that I can analyze according to the current market condition if the market can be controlled by the owner of the largest asset holder.

what power are you talking about? It should be more relevant to talk about common interests!

[worle1bm]

Market can be manipulated by many ways but small investors can't do such things but most probably whales with thousands of coins with them do so like selling at top which creates the prices to dip a little and rest panic sellers and newbies do in their favour by dumping their coins and in return whales again buy at dips and accumulate more.That is why it is said weak hands sold to strong.The FUD is another concept which creates market sell off but we can't say it is controlled by anyone because it's not as this is the beauty of decentralisation.

[Questat]

Market can be manipulated by many ways but small investors can't do such things but most probably whales with thousands of coins with them do so like selling at top which creates the prices to dip a little and rest panic sellers and newbies do in their favour by dumping their coins and in return whales again buy at dips and accumulate more.That is why it is said weak hands sold to strong.The FUD is another concept which creates market sell off but we can't say it is controlled by anyone because it's not as this is the beauty of decentralisation.

We always put blame on these whales as they are capable of doing it...in many ways. But why we should have to think this as to whether we like it or not, manipulation will certainly exist. And besides, people are too happy with the situation where the market isn't stable. Having the chance to buy low and sell high, I'd preferred to have this manipulation thing than nothing.
I don't mind who is controlling the market as for the fact that we are still benefiting from the hypes and lows that these people made.

[virasog]

However, no one can control the bitcoin market and even create a precise prediction for its price. Although everyone has the right to predict, but not everyone is able to make right predictions  as we are just into wild speculations and educated guesses.

Ideally no one should control the bitcoin price but in reality, the whales are still in control and they can move the market up and down. The biggest whales these days are the exchanges. The exchanges can easily manipulate the prices because they have a lot of funds and also they can easily liquidate people and getting more rich. The futures market is all about bitcoin price manipulation.

[Distinctin]

However, no one can control the bitcoin market and even create a precise prediction for its price. Although everyone has the right to predict, but not everyone is able to make right predictions  as we are just into wild speculations and educated guesses.

Ideally no one should control the bitcoin price but in reality, the whales are still in control and they can move the market up and down. The biggest whales these days are the exchanges. The exchanges can easily manipulate the prices because they have a lot of funds and also they can easily liquidate people and getting more rich. The futures market is all about bitcoin price manipulation.

if the exchanges are manipulating their own exchange then that is against the law, they should be reported to the regulators. Actually, I don't believe that because exchanges like Binance which is one of the biggest if not the biggest are already making a lot of money from trading fees due to a huge trading volume they have, so they don't need to do such thing that would put their business into compromise.

[uneng]

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.We can see that the bitcoin market is going up and down a lot now. The market would be very stable if we knew exactly who is controlling this market.

the market would be more stable, or very stable, if he's use for transacting, payments.. etc. is greater..
the equation is simple:
more regular transactions = bigger velocity = price more stable .

That is a good idea, but still very scarcely adopted right now, even though bitcoin is already almost 14 years old. I think what should happen in order to increase bitcoin usage as currency is to offer discounts for purchases made through bitcoin. If businesses are able to do this many people will convert their local currencies into bitcoin, just to take advantage of the promotions and this way adoption will fastly increase like never before.
The point so far is that it doesn't make sense for people to use bitcoin in their daily life as payment method, because fiat totally supplies their demands, but once an attractive is created and offered to bitcoin enthusiasts, this scenario completely changes.

So in the end of the day we have a much more stable bitcoin resistant to whales' manipulation.

[Danydee]

It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post.We can see that the bitcoin market is going up and down a lot now. The market would be very stable if we knew exactly who is controlling this market.

the market would be more stable, or very stable, if he's use for transacting, payments.. etc. is greater..
the equation is simple:
more regular transactions = bigger velocity = price more stable .

That is a good idea, but still very scarcely adopted right now, even though bitcoin is already almost 14 years old. I think what should happen in order to increase bitcoin usage as currency is to offer discounts for purchases made through bitcoin. If businesses are able to do this many people will convert their local currencies into bitcoin, just to take advantage of the promotions and this way adoption will fastly increase like never before.
The point so far is that it doesn't make sense for people to use bitcoin in their daily life as payment method, because fiat totally supplies their demands, but once an attractive is created and offered to bitcoin enthusiasts, this scenario completely changes.

So in the end of the day we have a much more stable bitcoin resistant to whales' manipulation.

 Yes, maybe payment processors (like those who provide sellers with the possibility to accept cryptos) maybe partenaring and managing with some companies specialized in trading can provide a kind of these promotions..

 That's not all, recently I figured that in some places paying with cryptos can be more profitable than using a credit cards or other common methods, especially paying for goods internationally.. so in some countries currency conversion rates go over 10% fees between buy and sell price, so in final you get all your purchases majored by over 10% the original price.

[lixer]

recently I figured that in some places paying with cryptos can be more profitable than using a credit cards or other common methods, especially paying for goods internationally.. so in some countries currency conversion rates go over 10% fees between buy and sell price, so in final you get all your purchases majored by over 10% the original price.

That’s right. I usually tell people that it doesn’t really matter which currency you’re making use of, it is all about the situation you’re into and which one of them would serve you better, you simply make use of that. I usually use myself as an example; I have a remote job and working for a company that is in a different country which I can only visit once in a while. And before I discovered Bitcoin I would usually receive my money through bank or any of those payment methods such as PayPal, and Payoneer, which usually cost fees for me.

But, since I discovered and told my country to be paying me in bitcoin, I have been receiving my payment same minute and stands to gain more because I don’t have to pay fees, rather I even make more money after I have sold my coins at black market rate using local exchanges. So it’s usually all about where a particular currency would serve you best and you can make use of it there.

[dezoel]

There are lot of things that can determine where the market is really heading to. Basically, it is the more that we have the demands, the more the price is going to increase. But that doesn’t mean that manipulation can’t take place. Manipulation means that the market is being played to be in favour of the perpetrators. They make attempts that affects the supply and demand in the market. And if you look at it, it still goes down to that same supply and demand, these people are tampering with the supply and demand which will in turn affect the market price to favour themselves.

So, with this we can see that it is all about demand and supply, but there are still events that takes place to affect the demand and supply. It’s just like when there was covid-19 and the market went down in price. That is because the demand in the market was affected by this event and led to people selling their assets, and this in turn leads to the market dropping in price.

[Woodie]

When you hear issues to do with control, mostly people are referencing to the hand most governments have in the running of the state owned currency but unlike fiat... control lies in the people which is influenced by supply and demand mainly and some influence comes from external factors such as financial policy, a bit of political control here and there. But ultimately control of most cryptocurrencies comes from its users, the people.

[Peanutswar]

Bitcoin is decentralized the reason why it looks controlled by somebody is because of the large investors we called as whales and the community itself as long as the bitcoin is still supported and in the market, many people will still make a trade, hold,  buy and sell those assets to earn profit. No one knows what will happen in the market but we can have a speculation through the data given from the previous years and the charts.

[tulusikhlas]

When you hear issues to do with control, mostly people are referencing to the hand most governments have in the running of the state owned currency but unlike fiat... control lies in the people which is influenced by supply and demand mainly and some influence comes from external factors such as financial policy, a bit of political control here and there. But ultimately control of most cryptocurrencies comes from its users, the people.

Bitcoin holders have great power to control the market. Although what you say above is true, government policies that slightly irritate bitcoin also have an effect. But the influence is not so great compared to the holder. I think when a country talks about bitcoin, there is an advantage in it, because then many people are curious. From that curiosity I think not a few people will be interested.

[Abiky]

Ideally no one should control the bitcoin price but in reality, the whales are still in control and they can move the market up and down. The biggest whales these days are the exchanges. The exchanges can easily manipulate the prices because they have a lot of funds and also they can easily liquidate people and getting more rich. The futures market is all about bitcoin price manipulation.

Not only exchanges but miners & stakers too. There's lots of money to be made, so expect constant price manipulation by these entities. This really doesn't matter, since Bitcoin was never about the price. What really matters is decentralization & censorship-resistance. Bitcoin serving its purpose as a decentralized cryptocurrency anyone can use worldwide, is more than enough for it to succeed in the long term. Price-wise, you should take every opportunity possible to make profit. There will be ups and downs, but if you manage to play the game, you'll be on a road towards financial success.

Hopefully, the market will stabilize in the future as regulations come into play. The bigger the crypto market grows, the more attention it'll bring to mainstream governments. Regulations are inevitable, so whales' game will not last for long. Just my thoughts

[LUCKMCFLY]

Bitcoin is decentralized which means no one person or company can control it.Yes, bitcoin can be manipulated by directly or indirectly for example positive or negative news can trigger panic sell or pump, whales also affect bitcoins price like any other investment options.Every investment options can be manipulated. Bitcoin is just too volatile to predict where prices would go.

^ Definitely right, as the as other investments when it comes to the market price BTC is also can be manipulated when it comes to the price but if someone who will ask who controlled BTC, there is no single entity who is controlling BTC or even a company behind the BTC because BTC is decentralized and controlled on it. Some reason why whale takes such actions, making fake news that makes traders becomes FUD and FOMO in order to that new investors will be afraid and sell their holding coins that become too lowes the price.

You are right and this is the beauty of the BTC market, many seek support, just as they do in the Stock Market, but the support of BTC I think is its Blockchain technology, its support is in the Law of Supply and Demand, the whales of BTC, the fact that it is not controlled by anyone is what makes this unique and as if this economy did not belong to this world, it is an alternate economy where debt ends and inflation does not exist, I think who want to move the BTC market is because you have a good amount of money, and one of these things is "emotions" emotions move the market as they want, they are affected by fundamentals and different news that have a global impact, sometimes even by certain people who tend to be influential in the world.

[Ebede]

When you hear issues to do with control, mostly people are referencing to the hand most governments have in the running of the state owned currency but unlike fiat... control lies in the people which is influenced by supply and demand mainly and some influence comes from external factors such as financial policy, a bit of political control here and there. But ultimately control of most cryptocurrencies comes from its users, the people.

Bitcoin holders have great power to control the market. Although what you say above is true, government policies that slightly irritate bitcoin also have an effect. But the influence is not so great compared to the holder. I think when a country talks about bitcoin, there is an advantage in it, because then many people are curious. From that curiosity I think not a few people will be interested.

Bitcoin is not centralized that some body can control, if holders possessed the power to control Bitcoin that means Bitcoin is not decentralized again, their can only decide not to release their Bitcoin but that does not mean they have the power to control Bitcoin particularly, i understand you but try and understand my explanation