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January 15, 2022, 09:21:54 PM
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When a human is born. his mind is like a blackboard. The teacher draws some white lines on it. These white lines give light to his mind and aware him of himself, the world and that is in the world. These are the teacher who shows him the right path and aware him about science and technology.

The teacher is the benefactor of the nation. They make the mind of their students. They form the nation. A nation cannot pay for his services. If there will be a good teacher. There will be a good nation and the morale of the whole nation will high. They are kingmakers. The whole world pays homage to the teacher.

I agree with you. Teachers have an important role to play in our life. They take their time to lecture and build us to become useful in life. I remember how my secondary school teacher usually takes good care for us back then in school like we were his children. He did not only taught us education, but also explained to us how to overcome challenges in life. Without teaches, there will be no future.They probably deserve more. I mean more respect and more money.



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January 16, 2022, 09:06:22 AM
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Without some body to tell you teachers is the key of the world but their paying them less payment why people that is in government is receiving the highest salary, teachers teacher doctors, lawyers, engineers, nurse's politicians but yet they are fail to recognize as engine block of the nation, this people called teachers is important and they suppose live more comfortable than any one because of their work

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January 16, 2022, 11:39:29 AM
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Some of the things I learnt in high school are not in important to me now, this are things that took my time for me to understand.  Things like this I could not escape them because it was a Conposary lesson, right then I know all those stuff are not for me  but I had no option than to offer them. The educational system needs to be reformed,  curriculum needs to be changed.
Dont you know that those information's you acquire in your high school days are the one that is leading you now for exceeding grace, what is concern is the foundations, if the foundation is clear and well arranged you go higher, don't regret that you wasted your time going high school, do you want to tell me those teachers there is wasting the energy and time to impact knowledge to you free

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January 16, 2022, 10:04:58 PM
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It's interesting to learn about the difference between countries, thanks. Although I do still think there's a critical difference between being educated for the purpose of learning useful facts and skills, and being educated for the purpose of passing exams.

It is certainly a a good idea to try to measure the performance of teachers relative to all other teachers, and the easiest way to measure this is through exam scores, so I understand why the approach is used, I just think it's somewhat counterproductive in that you're not measuring their ability to teach the kids so much as their ability to train them. But I'm not sure how you'd obtain quantitative data to determine teacher ranking other than this way, so I don't know what the alternative is.

I'd also argue that - again, specifically in my country - teaching at university is all wrong. A generation ago it was free for students to attend, they just needed high enough exam scores to meet the entry requirements, and at university they were taught for the purpose of learning. Nowadays that's all changed, there are now huge fees involved, kids have to pay a lot of money to attend university, the number of university places open has increased dramatically, so now practically anyone can attend, regardless of exam scores, so long as they're willing to either stump up the cash or else get saddled with debt. And because such high fees are involved, it's not really about learning for the sake of learning, it's primarily a transaction, paying cash for qualifications.
Going to a University today basically means you are subsidizing radical indoctrination of students, and are taking on tens of thousands of dollars of debt (at least in the US) for the privilege of doing so.

As you note that almost anyone can attend University, there are many University degrees that are worthless, or even less than worthless, such as gender studies.

In reference to your concerns about standardized tests, ideally, these tests would measure how well a student can apply what they were supposed to have learned. For example, instead of reciting facts, the student would need to apply concepts they learned to determine the answer to a question.
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January 16, 2022, 10:51:19 PM
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I'd also argue that - again, specifically in my country - teaching at university is all wrong. A generation ago it was free for students to attend, they just needed high enough exam scores to meet the entry requirements, and at university they were taught for the purpose of learning. Nowadays that's all changed, there are now huge fees involved, kids have to pay a lot of money to attend university, the number of university places open has increased dramatically, so now practically anyone can attend, regardless of exam scores, so long as they're willing to either stump up the cash or else get saddled with debt. And because such high fees are involved, it's not really about learning for the sake of learning, it's primarily a transaction, paying cash for qualifications.
Going to a University today basically means you are subsidizing radical indoctrination of students, and are taking on tens of thousands of dollars of debt (at least in the US) for the privilege of doing so.

i see university as more of a 'freebie' for employers by them not having to offer any training. and instead saddle the training cost on the unemployed person trying to get a job.

it gets even funnier how even when people are university qualified they then have to gain experience by doing voluntary/intern work, or do even more low paid 'apprenticeships', just to get a foot into the door of an employment prospect.

universities should teach stuff. but actually teach. rather then
'google this and write a report by monday'
'you want to learn graphic design, well you need to do a chemistry course as a side credit because we need to bump our STEM stats'

as for the university funding(cost of tuition). well employers wanting talent should pay for talent
many places in the UK. there has been a lack of engineering skills and when a big engineering company wants to settle in the area, they actually invest in the college to adapt a new course that fits their need. and help recruit students using scholarships and even free bus passes, also offering them a guaranteed interview if they pass the course

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January 16, 2022, 11:19:13 PM
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In this sense it is up to say that teacher should be well rewarded if we need the best from them, no teacher no development as the case may be.

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quick question:

How many countries pay high salaries to teachers?

In my country, teachers have low salaries and they don't even have perks, but guess what? Teachers are the ones who vote the most for my country's corrupt party. Teachers in my country are traitors to their country.

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January 17, 2022, 08:31:07 AM
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quick question:

How many countries pay high salaries to teachers?

In my country, teachers have low salaries and they don't even have perks, but guess what? Teachers are the ones who vote the most for my country's corrupt party. Teachers in my country are traitors to their country.

It depends from the country, but I know one perk that teachers have in my country. They have 1 month paid vacation. For most students, June-August are holidays. June is the month when 9 and 12 grade students pass exams, July is the month when teachers prepare study program fro the next year, and August is the month they do nothing, but receive basic salary (usually they get extra for being a classroom teacher (fully responsible for all students) + paid for extra lessons + paid if they teach not their basic subject (teacher of physics can easily teach basic math)).

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January 17, 2022, 09:28:18 AM
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In this sense it is up to say that teacher should be well rewarded if we need the best from them, no teacher no development as the case may be.

 Grin

quick question:

How many countries pay high salaries to teachers?

In my country, teachers have low salaries and they don't even have perks, but guess what? Teachers are the ones who vote the most for my country's corrupt party. Teachers in my country are traitors to their country.
Normally  in many  countries teachers are not paid very well which is unfair. The list polical seat earn more than a high school teacher and lecturer in the University which is not supposed to be so.


 That's a problem from your own country,  it is not general issue. Don't see it as a common character teachers all over the world.

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January 17, 2022, 11:43:12 AM
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Teachers are nation builder. Teachers are professional who are trained specifically to train pupils, students from kindergarten  to the terminal of education in any part of the world. Teachers are builders who psychologically and educationally trained to understand  the mental ability of every child to be what they can do best in pursuit of education.

Today's world of development call it engineering,  medical,  military,  religion  etc, are the brain work of a teacher. So looking at the human development holistically,  without Teachers the world would not get to where it is. It would be appropriate to say after God, the Teachers should be mark next for the ability to procreate and bring human to what they should be in the future.

In this sense it is up to say that teacher should be well rewarded if we need the best from them, no teacher no development as the case may be.

Your thread is great. Teachers offer the power of education to present youth, thereby giving them the possibility for better future. That's why teachers are the most important.
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I'd also argue that - again, specifically in my country - teaching at university is all wrong. A generation ago it was free for students to attend, they just needed high enough exam scores to meet the entry requirements, and at university they were taught for the purpose of learning. Nowadays that's all changed, there are now huge fees involved, kids have to pay a lot of money to attend university, the number of university places open has increased dramatically, so now practically anyone can attend, regardless of exam scores, so long as they're willing to either stump up the cash or else get saddled with debt. And because such high fees are involved, it's not really about learning for the sake of learning, it's primarily a transaction, paying cash for qualifications.
Going to a University today basically means you are subsidizing radical indoctrination of students, and are taking on tens of thousands of dollars of debt (at least in the US) for the privilege of doing so.

i see university as more of a 'freebie' for employers by them not having to offer any training. and instead saddle the training cost on the unemployed person trying to get a job.
I would say that universities generally do not provide employer specific training. At least not today. There is really no reason for an employer to require a college degree today for most jobs outside of being a medical doctor.

it gets even funnier how even when people are university qualified they then have to gain experience by doing voluntary/intern work, or do even more low paid 'apprenticeships', just to get a foot into the door of an employment prospect.


as for the university funding(cost of tuition). well employers wanting talent should pay for talent
many places in the UK. there has been a lack of engineering skills and when a big engineering company wants to settle in the area, they actually invest in the college to adapt a new course that fits their need. and help recruit students using scholarships and even free bus passes, also offering them a guaranteed interview if they pass the course
College graduates typically have no particular reason to have to live in a particular area. So an employer paying for a college degree will have difficulty retaining a college graduate employee whose education they paid for.

The problem with costs is that they are not limited by market economics. Government lending to students who do not understand the concept of money has allowed colleges to charge prices that are unrelated to their value.
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February 01, 2022, 11:22:21 AM
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The best presidents and government officials were also made and came from a very good and outstanding teachers that have left them with good lessons and advices which they've brought as they grow old.

All of the professions that we have came from the teachers. We salute all of them and they really deserve the best. But sadly, there are those nations or places that can't increase the wages of them due to the lack of budget and situation of their country. Despite that situation, it is their passion that keeps them moving forward and never shows any tiredness from their profession.

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February 01, 2022, 03:16:24 PM
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Do you know that teachers role on child educational background cannot be overemphasized, to train a child requires parental skills, patience, tolerance and effective teaching aid skills, that's why atime i look the the lecturer's profession but give it lesser prestige compare to teacher's effort through knowledge impactation, a lecturer will also read and get you informed of certain thoughts and school modules not minding how and if you get the process to fully understand it, but a teacher will make sure that the child understand the teaching, acquired the knowledge and do a follow-up on the continuous assessment to ensure that the child maintain it despite all efforts, shouts, and repeated teachings yet they got paid a peanut salary.



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Most countries don't have respect for education, hence teachers are the treated as slaves. In some countries country teachers earn the least salary.

In fact universities move unqualified students from other departments to the education department because nobody wants to be a teacher.

Less motivated teachers would give low quality lessons. Low quality lessons will produce half baked graduates. Half baked will lead to a dysfunctional society.

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February 02, 2022, 12:55:08 PM
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I think teachers are the best for the nation. Teachers can help grow self esteem and confidence to learn. They also teach students the foundations of knowledge that we need to function in society like critical thinking and history.
You are right, teaching is not my discipline for me to support that teachers is the father's of any nation because when looking at this three angles of fields Teachers, Doctors and lawyers, theirs are all important but teachers are the most important because teachers gives rise to others, without teacher passing the knowledge to doctors and lawyers they won't have known the part a doctor or lawyer will play for the nation, so i agreed that teachers is foundation's of knowledge
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The best presidents and government officials were also made and came from a very good and outstanding teachers that have left them with good lessons and advices which they've brought as they grow old.

All of the professions that we have came from the teachers. We salute all of them and they really deserve the best. But sadly, there are those nations or places that can't increase the wages of them due to the lack of budget and situation of their country. Despite that situation, it is their passion that keeps them moving forward and never shows any tiredness from their profession.

The key to the life of a teacher is to educate and build a nation. The people of a nation are enlightened in the light of education by their hands and subsequently contributed to the development of the country & plays a big role.

As you said - Educated individuals who have played a role at all levels, starting with the president of a country, come to this stage because of the contribution of a teacher.

But the unfortunate thing is our society does not give due respect to teachers. this is exactly why many countries cannot raise salaries in the education sector for their deficit budgets. But money alone is not everything. A teacher deserves the highest respect and they should take steps to ensure that respect.

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Teachers are nation builder. Teachers are professional who are trained specifically to train pupils, students from kindergarten  to the terminal of education in any part of the world. Teachers are builders who psychologically and educationally trained to understand  the mental ability of every child to be what they can do best in pursuit of education.

Today's world of development call it engineering,  medical,  military,  religion  etc, are the brain work of a teacher. So looking at the human development holistically,  without Teachers the world would not get to where it is. It would be appropriate to say after God, the Teachers should be mark next for the ability to procreate and bring human to what they should be in the future.

In this sense it is up to say that teacher should be well rewarded if we need the best from them, no teacher no development as the case may be.

Traditionally Teachers had to travel through the land convince farmers to give him part of their harvest in exchange for educating their children.

farmers on the other hand just educated their first 2 born sons themselves and the following ones where taken by the Local Lord and sacrificed in war service, while the surplus girls became nons

those surplus children that didn't got killed in a war or became nons joined the army of evil, or became witches

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March 17, 2022, 12:21:13 PM
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It is a common knowledge that teachers are nation builders and they also deserve the best in every society. The teachers are not only the professional teachers, the parents at home are also teachers and even the pastors and imams in the church and mosque are also teachers and everyone of them put efforts together to raise a child in the society.

In formal education, the professional teachers are producing doctors, engineers, lawyers and many more. It can be that the same teachers produces the kidnappers, criminals and rapist. All of them pass through the same process of learning.

Some countries has bad education process or syllabus, when they have good teachers they will end up to produce substandard students in the society who cannot compete with their international mates. In the nation building it can be seen that government plays the major role.

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Teachers are the one to help students achieve every milestone of the student and drives to success. From the very beginning of school days they are the one who spends majority of time with us constructing and moulding us in spiritual, scientific and moral values.

They are the one who know more about the growing child than parents because they spent more time with kids.Teaching is the only profession in which they have the capability making an efficient person to the society, because they understand his/her inborn skills and make them good on the same than compelling to concentrate on some other trade.

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March 18, 2022, 02:48:16 PM
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I see teachers as shapers of the world both morally and intellectually. But unfortunately they are being neglected at the end of the day by those they put in much energy to shape for the future. Especially in the third_world countries teachers are placed below in the hierarchy of esteemed professions, giving much esteem to professions like medical doctors, engineering, law etc, but forgetting that these aforementioned professions wouldn't be without a teacher in the gap.

In many third_world countries, especially African countries teachers are underpaid, owed salaries for months, left with no promotions and incentives as part of encouragement and entitlements. All of these and more have made the teaching profession in these countries to be tagged as a "poor man profession", cause there's nothing to go home with after years of service. It's quite saddened!

Teachers are the best world over and they deserve a special kind of respect to make them give in more of themselves in their job, so to bring out the best in their students.
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!


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March 30, 2022, 08:53:15 AM
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Teachers deserves more but I need to understand more about what op meant by teachers deserve more. Teachers are being paid heavy  for their jobs and what else do they want again. They keep fighting for more pays and allowances and the government always adhere to their cry. I don't know about other regions where teachers might be paid token for their job. Teachers and doctors are always are one of the vital part of a nature and the government always comes to their aid.









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