Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past

[Hamphser]

Not only the gambling sites but all the businesses check their functionality before they go live.
The good business owner do care for their customer and they come up with good solutions for their customer.
So be it gambling or any other business - the testing is important.

This is why there are test should be done first before having that full launch.A business owner will really be thinking up all the ways or possibilities for those things to happen.
Its true that this isnt only for gambling but also in other businesses as well where security do really matters because anything online  could be attacked.
If its really needed to have lots of testing then you should do before making some official launch which all check list should be on green.

Test is a must at full launch and it is the standard. This is why there are beta test and alpha test on applications even on websites. Those possibilities like bugs, errors and vulnerabilities are widely tested on beta and alpha test so they can clear out those problems before the full launch. There are some who are hiring someone for penetration testing and I think it is the most needed for casinos since it involves a massive amount of money. There are also some casino who are doing bug bounty campaigns here in bitcoin talk to help themselves as well as the members here to find bugs and explore for some reward.

and this is why you will doubt the intentions of new casinos that are deployed in a hurry. you can even get the notion that they are not for long term if the important contents of the site are missing like the ToS. for a serious business, they will do these checks and validation.

That's right its hard to trust new deployed casino because they can easily run if they get huge amount deposited from their gamblers, that's why many trust those reputable and let those newly comes prove their intention to run a honest business first. That's why we need to seek for betterment because we are dealing money and for sure we don't want to lose it from scams.

People on this community or forum are really that highly reactive when it comes to possible red flags that could be seen on a new service or platform that do launch recently which is really that helpful on other
co-readers or visitors of certain thread of this forum which you could eventually able to read up and ending up on waiting for further feedbacks from other reputable or known members of this forum
which do really approves out that it was fair and square.

It is really normal that we are really  that hesitant at first but looking on basic principles and features of a new site then you could say directly which ones are serious with the
business and to those who are clearly trying out to perform some quick scam.

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[danadc]

No confirmation sites.
Any site to allows you to gamble with nonconfirmed coins is vulnerable to a double-spend attack. People could wager their balance and if they win then waits for the transaction to confirm, and if they lose they could make a double spend, that's a known vulnerability.

I've used sites with no confirm required and you could purchase but the main difference was the delivery of goods or services was not immediate. If I had pulled this trick, I could not benefit as the item I buy was not delivered to me immediately.  For gambling it sounds an obvious disaster, Im surprised we are talking about more then one site which allowed this for any amount of time.    The fault might be that BTC has had fees far too high and encouraged risk taking by websites on this point.

A vulnerability of a casino can be withdrawals with manual confirmation, when a casino announces that withdrawals are manual, I stay away, because not only can it become a very big vulnerability but also a scheme that is very difficult to control, I think that when there is a casino with automatic withdrawals, it is when things are going wrong internally, and that is why they make the decision to do it manually and not automatically, the reasons can be many, and the most common is lack of funds. .

The strategy of many casinos is to start without capital, and it is a risk, because if the outputs are greater than the income, it can become a scam, more than a vulnerability, it is a danger.

[LUCKMCFLY]

sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.

In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).

Yes, that's true because if some users have suggested speeding up slow transactions but the casino doesn't pay attention to it, it could be a sign that the casino's services have not been able to satisfy its users.
It will also be a sign for users to move to another casino because they don't want to get their money for a long time.
If we talk about the vulnerabilities of a website, it's more about the bugs on the website.
Many things will be related to the website, such as fixing the code with errors.
The team must fix the vulnerabilities immediately before things go wrong, causing the casino to suffer huge losses.

Well, I understand that when there is a certain delay in Bitcoin transactions, it is normal when it comes to the network, but when it comes to something that is the fault of the casino, it is usually something very annoying, because seeing that a casino retains the withdrawals just for processing them manually is something that, at least for me, bothers me a lot, because a withdrawal should be automatic and there should be no problem, the fact that they process them manually means that the site has vulnerabilities that are inexcusable at present, and as such they should not be released yet, until those things are corrected.

[Fatunad]

sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.

In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).

Yes, that's true because if some users have suggested speeding up slow transactions but the casino doesn't pay attention to it, it could be a sign that the casino's services have not been able to satisfy its users.
It will also be a sign for users to move to another casino because they don't want to get their money for a long time.
If we talk about the vulnerabilities of a website, it's more about the bugs on the website.
Many things will be related to the website, such as fixing the code with errors.
The team must fix the vulnerabilities immediately before things go wrong, causing the casino to suffer huge losses.

Well, I understand that when there is a certain delay in Bitcoin transactions, it is normal when it comes to the network, but when it comes to something that is the fault of the casino, it is usually something very annoying, because seeing that a casino retains the withdrawals just for processing them manually is something that, at least for me, bothers me a lot, because a withdrawal should be automatic and there should be no problem, the fact that they process them manually means that the site has vulnerabilities that are inexcusable at present, and as such they should not be released yet, until those things are corrected.

When it comes to payment terms and set up then this is what i do prefer.

Deposits - atleast 1 confirmation for it to credit on site balance
Withdrawal - Instant

Any sites that doesnt offer or having these kind of setup then this is a huge turn off for me specially
that manual withdrawal which does still need admin approval which do really sucks for you to wait up a long time.

[STT]

Not exactly a casino but an online virtual asset exchange site so related area of security, csmoney just got compromised.  They say they have recovered and learnt from the vulnerability found in their website that allowed the loss of balance or held assets.   Not quite sure what went wrong, code injection or some trick pulled on them allowed a loss luckily only partial loss in this case so they recovered website and most balances alledgely.

[Silberman]

That's right its hard to trust new deployed casino because they can easily run if they get huge amount deposited from their gamblers, that's why many trust those reputable and let those newly comes prove their intention to run a honest business first. That's why we need to seek for betterment because we are dealing money and for sure we don't want to lose it from scams.

I think it makes sense that gamblers are skeptical about new casinos not only because they have not demonstrated yet that the people that are behind the casino are to be trusted, but also because as we know hackers are always looking for any kind of vulnerability in order to steal all the money they can, and unfortunately it doesn't matter how good the people that were in charge of designing the software for a casino, there is always the possibility that there is a bug there they could not find but a hacker with an unlimited amount of time can, and then you lose your money even if you did everything you could to secure your account.

[traderethereum]

Well, I understand that when there is a certain delay in Bitcoin transactions, it is normal when it comes to the network, but when it comes to something that is the fault of the casino, it is usually something very annoying, because seeing that a casino retains the withdrawals just for processing them manually is something that, at least for me, bothers me a lot, because a withdrawal should be automatic and there should be no problem, the fact that they process them manually means that the site has vulnerabilities that are inexcusable at present, and as such they should not be released yet, until those things are corrected.

As long as a certain delay does not interfere with security on the website, I think the casino can still feel safe but indeed, it can interfere with the comfort of its members who want to withdraw winnings.
This is something that casinos should also look out for and work to improve so that members don't have to wait long to get their money.
But usually, if many members feel uncomfortable with this situation and complain to the casino, they will try to provide updates related to speeding up transactions so they can solve the problem properly.
Maybe it's just a matter of time for the casino to fix it and we have to be patient and accept the situation or maybe the casino is giving greater focus to checking the security on their website.

[Dunamisx]

You know that a good gambling site team will always check the performances of the site before launching it in the market in the market so I will not be surprised if I see sites that have little vulnerabilities that make gamblers to ride on them especially when it has a loophole where gamers can penetrate and make a lots of cheating that will make the gambling site to have much loses.
Vulnerability are not supposed to be seen on gambling platform at all.

Casinos cannot do without having one or two vulnerabilities but when it exceed this range makes it becomes more unbearable for gamblers, this is what is common with newly launched casinos whereby the operators have no past experience about handling a casino, in this regard, you discover many gamblers cheating over them, the site malfunctioning, and some functions not working well with the site and the entire site may later went inaccessible again causing uproar from gamblers in a pool of complaints.

[bitzizzix]

Well, I understand that when there is a certain delay in Bitcoin transactions, it is normal when it comes to the network, but when it comes to something that is the fault of the casino, it is usually something very annoying, because seeing that a casino retains the withdrawals just for processing them manually is something that, at least for me, bothers me a lot, because a withdrawal should be automatic and there should be no problem, the fact that they process them manually means that the site has vulnerabilities that are inexcusable at present, and as such they should not be released yet, until those things are corrected.

As long as a certain delay does not interfere with security on the website, I think the casino can still feel safe but indeed, it can interfere with the comfort of its members who want to withdraw winnings.
This is something that casinos should also look out for and work to improve so that members don't have to wait long to get their money.
But usually, if many members feel uncomfortable with this situation and complain to the casino, they will try to provide updates related to speeding up transactions so they can solve the problem properly.
Maybe it's just a matter of time for the casino to fix it and we have to be patient and accept the situation or maybe the casino is giving greater focus to checking the security on their website.

For transaction problems, especially withdrawals, it is the most important thing for online gambling lovers and if there are obstacles or delays it is very disturbing and also feels uncomfortable.
and if it happens too often and there are many members with the same complaint and the casino only promises to fix it but the result is the same, it's better to leave the casino and come back again if the problem is resolved. Because there are also gamblers who like casinos for some reason but become annoying due to transaction issues and leave, and it is the fault of the casinos not to provide comfort in the most important transactions.

[ethereumhunter]

You know that a good gambling site team will always check the performances of the site before launching it in the market in the market so I will not be surprised if I see sites that have little vulnerabilities that make gamblers to ride on them especially when it has a loophole where gamers can penetrate and make a lots of cheating that will make the gambling site to have much loses.
Vulnerability are not supposed to be seen on gambling platform at all.

Casinos cannot do without having one or two vulnerabilities but when it exceed this range makes it becomes more unbearable for gamblers, this is what is common with newly launched casinos whereby the operators have no past experience about handling a casino, in this regard, you discover many gamblers cheating over them, the site malfunctioning, and some functions not working well with the site and the entire site may later went inaccessible again causing uproar from gamblers in a pool of complaints.

Naturally, one casino has a vulnerability because no one can be 100% safe from vulnerabilities. There will be some bugs in the casino or any other business website, which is why every casino or business website should have a security team that will constantly monitor the site for any possible vulnerabilities. And if any gambler tries to cheat the casino, the casino will surely know and will not let that happen because they have evidence that these people are trying to cheat.

[Fredomago]

Well, I understand that when there is a certain delay in Bitcoin transactions, it is normal when it comes to the network, but when it comes to something that is the fault of the casino, it is usually something very annoying, because seeing that a casino retains the withdrawals just for processing them manually is something that, at least for me, bothers me a lot, because a withdrawal should be automatic and there should be no problem, the fact that they process them manually means that the site has vulnerabilities that are inexcusable at present, and as such they should not be released yet, until those things are corrected.

As long as a certain delay does not interfere with security on the website, I think the casino can still feel safe but indeed, it can interfere with the comfort of its members who want to withdraw winnings.
This is something that casinos should also look out for and work to improve so that members don't have to wait long to get their money.
But usually, if many members feel uncomfortable with this situation and complain to the casino, they will try to provide updates related to speeding up transactions so they can solve the problem properly.
Maybe it's just a matter of time for the casino to fix it and we have to be patient and accept the situation or maybe the casino is giving greater focus to checking the security on their website.

Maybe there are different takes about that situation but same sentiment, it's annoying to see delays and knowing that your withdraw request will be process manually instead of the regular transactions, it's a doubt or worries that will undergo from your mindset, thinking that there are problems or there are exposed that the casino is facing, it's something that the owner/team needs to workout and not to let things happen again, it will push their patrons away.

Something that will affect the business hard, once the players doubt the services, the chance that they will find a new house to play.

the question of vulnerabilities affects the reputation of the business.

[dezoel]

Not exactly a casino but an online virtual asset exchange site so related area of security, csmoney just got compromised.  They say they have recovered and learnt from the vulnerability found in their website that allowed the loss of balance or held assets.   Not quite sure what went wrong, code injection or some trick pulled on them allowed a loss luckily only partial loss in this case so they recovered website and most balances alledgely.

Even not a casino but anything that has a money on it or valuable items on it like if they are a shopping site, a hacker will always try to find an exploit to buy the items for free or break its bank (stole the money that is in store at it). That's great if they learned their lessons already but they should because it can affect their company if their security is too weak and their site is easily hackable.

They are still lucky that they only lose small amount at first but maybe they won't be lucky next time and they will lose bigger amount of funds. Hackers have so many ways to access the site and may not be easily figured out by normal i.t student like you.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

Well the continuation, this hacker also hacked Primedice before and got 1000 bitcoin profit on PrimeDice in part one, and in part 2 hackers got 2000 bitcoin profit. This time will perhaps be the biggest profit have got and I don't know if the hacker was able to manage and withdraw the bitcoin successfully.
^{[ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0 ]}
The account was named Hufflepuff on Primedice and povpobava007 in Rollin.io.

That's a terrible thing! I can't believe they hacked 1000 and 2000 bitcoins. is my understanding correct? It's worth a lot, to be honest. Too much, these hackers must be rich these days. But in fairness, the prime dice still exist in the crypto industry. I just don't know if there are many gamblers coming in here now.

Because it seems to me that prime dice is not like before that it is recommendable to the majority but now it  is no longer noisy because there are many gambling platforms that have come out that have surpassed prime dice even though it has been in this industry for a long time.

[abel1337]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

Well the continuation, this hacker also hacked Primedice before and got 1000 bitcoin profit on PrimeDice in part one, and in part 2 hackers got 2000 bitcoin profit. This time will perhaps be the biggest profit have got and I don't know if the hacker was able to manage and withdraw the bitcoin successfully.
^{[ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0 ]}
The account was named Hufflepuff on Primedice and povpobava007 in Rollin.io.

That's a terrible thing! I can't believe they hacked 1000 and 2000 bitcoins. is my understanding correct? It's worth a lot, to be honest. Too much, these hackers must be rich these days. But in fairness, the prime dice still exist in the crypto industry. I just don't know if there are many gamblers coming in here now.

Because it seems to me that prime dice is not like before that it is recommendable to the majority but now it  is no longer noisy because there are many gambling platforms that have come out that have surpassed prime dice even though it has been in this industry for a long time.

At that time the price of bitcoin is not that high compared to our current prices and It's true that if they have that amount of bitcoin till now, They are very rich today. though I heard that primedice lost about a million of worth of bitcoins that cheating incident happen.  Well I always believe that no system is safe and there's always a vulnerability that can be cracked so I think primedice took it as a hard lesson and continue their casino journey. Primedice advertisements are pretty low now but there are still so many gamblers who are playing in that casino and I'm one of them.

[traderethereum]

For transaction problems, especially withdrawals, it is the most important thing for online gambling lovers and if there are obstacles or delays it is very disturbing and also feels uncomfortable.
and if it happens too often and there are many members with the same complaint and the casino only promises to fix it but the result is the same, it's better to leave the casino and come back again if the problem is resolved. Because there are also gamblers who like casinos for some reason but become annoying due to transaction issues and leave, and it is the fault of the casinos not to provide comfort in the most important transactions.

Suppose that happens to one casino and that casino doesn't fix it right away. In that case, their members will immediately move to another casino, regardless of whether the casino can give more bonuses to its members.
Members don't want to face any problems or interruptions while playing, making deposits or withdrawals and if they encounter them, the casino must act immediately to fix them.
This is something that the casino should always pay attention to and maybe the casino can also always check for transactions and make sure everything is still in their control.
If the casinos can do it, I'm sure their members will be satisfied and will always gamble at their place and it's likely that more new people will join as well.

Maybe there are different takes about that situation but same sentiment, it's annoying to see delays and knowing that your withdraw request will be process manually instead of the regular transactions, it's a doubt or worries that will undergo from your mindset, thinking that there are problems or there are exposed that the casino is facing, it's something that the owner/team needs to workout and not to let things happen again, it will push their patrons away.

Something that will affect the business hard, once the players doubt the services, the chance that they will find a new house to play.

the question of vulnerabilities affects the reputation of the business.

Yes, it's natural for us to feel irritated to see transactions that have not been confirmed or not executed automatically because it makes us have to wait and wait, which is annoying.
If the casino has a problem with its transaction, it can immediately notify its members and ask them to delay withdrawing their funds for a while as it is being fixed.
Their members will understand this and comply with waiting for a while until the problem is finished.
The point is that when there is a problem, immediately make repairs because customer satisfaction is the main thing that business owners must consider.

[Dunamisx]

You know that a good gambling site team will always check the performances of the site before launching it in the market in the market so I will not be surprised if I see sites that have little vulnerabilities that make gamblers to ride on them especially when it has a loophole where gamers can penetrate and make a lots of cheating that will make the gambling site to have much loses.
Vulnerability are not supposed to be seen on gambling platform at all.

Casinos cannot do without having one or two vulnerabilities but when it exceed this range makes it becomes more unbearable for gamblers, this is what is common with newly launched casinos whereby the operators have no past experience about handling a casino, in this regard, you discover many gamblers cheating over them, the site malfunctioning, and some functions not working well with the site and the entire site may later went inaccessible again causing uproar from gamblers in a pool of complaints.

Naturally, one casino has a vulnerability because no one can be 100% safe from vulnerabilities. There will be some bugs in the casino or any other business website, which is why every casino or business website should have a security team that will constantly monitor the site for any possible vulnerabilities. And if any gambler tries to cheat the casino, the casino will surely know and will not let that happen because they have evidence that these people are trying to cheat.

I also see dome of the casinos intentionally disabling some functions from user's end once a suspicious activities are observed, fine i know that fault is from the gambler's end, but the casinos also have their own lapse in their inability to maintain a good functionality of the site, especially the ones that has a scam motive from the beginning, they have bad reputation and and not trusted because they abuse the gamblers right intentionally just to place them on hostage, such casinos give less but expected much in return, we need to be careful in which to deal with, else we get recommendation.

[ethereumhunter]

I also see dome of the casinos intentionally disabling some functions from user's end once a suspicious activities are observed, fine i know that fault is from the gambler's end, but the casinos also have their own lapse in their inability to maintain a good functionality of the site, especially the ones that has a scam motive from the beginning, they have bad reputation and and not trusted because they abuse the gamblers right intentionally just to place them on hostage, such casinos give less but expected much in return, we need to be careful in which to deal with, else we get recommendation.

Yes, that's true and if the casino has a bad reputation and we often see many cases happening at their casino, it's probably not purely the gambler's fault. But these casinos probably won't research if the blame came from them and will just leave the case unattended with no intention of fixing it. For this type of casino, they may deceive other users and become targets for hackers to try to enter their site. If something bad happens to a casino, it may be a sign for us to leave the casino before we get into trouble.

[Fredomago]

Yes, it's natural for us to feel irritated to see transactions that have not been confirmed or not executed automatically because it makes us have to wait and wait, which is annoying.
If the casino has a problem with its transaction, it can immediately notify its members and ask them to delay withdrawing their funds for a while as it is being fixed.
Their members will understand this and comply with waiting for a while until the problem is finished.
The point is that when there is a problem, immediately make repairs because customer satisfaction is the main thing that business owners must consider.

It's a must for any casino to make sure that they are addressing customers especially in terms of withdrawing funds, that annoying period can be address with a good communication if in case there's really some problem that ongoing with the casino funds, it will lessen the worries and fear from the owner that money knowing that the support team are already working with his fund request.

Always have an open communication. It will add good trust between the gamblers and the casino owners.

If the delay take longer time, a good compensation can also be applied by the house. It's a consideration of what happens, a good way to express that sorry for inconvenience.

[abel1337]

Test is a must at full launch and it is the standard. This is why there are beta test and alpha test on applications even on websites. Those possibilities like bugs, errors and vulnerabilities are widely tested on beta and alpha test so they can clear out those problems before the full launch. There are some who are hiring someone for penetration testing and I think it is the most needed for casinos since it involves a massive amount of money. There are also some casino who are doing bug bounty campaigns here in bitcoin talk to help themselves as well as the members here to find bugs and explore for some reward.

and this is why you will doubt the intentions of new casinos that are deployed in a hurry. you can even get the notion that they are not for long term if the important contents of the site are missing like the ToS. for a serious business, they will do these checks and validation. as you will be holding someone else's funds, their security is one your utmost concern. this kind of business is attractive to these hackers, as money is involve and these hackers know some are not taking care of their security protocols seriously.

This is also a reason why new casinos should spend extra of their budget on securities. A single exploit from a single casino could wipe their funds out and it could possibly be the reason they will be out in business in the future. Would anyone play on a new casino that have been exploited? I'm sure their current customers will rushing to cash out their money out on that casino.

[Daltonik]

Well, if the exploit works and deprives casino customers of their funds, then it seems that the shares of the casino itself will no longer be worth anything, it's another matter if the casino has a sufficient reserve fund to cover the damage from hacker attacks and this does not necessarily mean investing in shares.