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February 13, 2022, 03:48:26 PM
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Live games are really entertaining, is like watching TV while we pace bets. But they are not probably fair, and there are a lot of videos on youtube that show how the rolls are manipulated. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu7400hUA3A)

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.


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February 13, 2022, 04:00:52 PM
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I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.
Usually these live games are audited by a third party company, so the reliability of these games is directly related to who the auditors are, as they have a reputation to uphold, and reputation is the most valuable asset for these auditing companies.

But directly answering your question: NO, I don't trust and I don't like to bet on these games.

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February 13, 2022, 04:32:48 PM
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For me it's all about the results. If I got really drawn to these games, I'd keep playing regardless of trust that I have towards the people who run these or audit them. You can always test these by playing with small money and stick with it if it keeps going your way. From my experience most people choose the games they like and the games they have results in before they do their research about the site that runs them and all other small details. That's why lottery tickets are so popular despite very low chance to win and the government taxing the shit out of big winners.

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February 13, 2022, 09:56:35 PM
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OP they are two players in the live casino industry which is the gaming and live room providers. The game providers control the game how it should be played and the live room owners take care of the gaming environments you enjoy on screen including the croupiers. What you need to check before patronizing any live casino is the Gaming providers because they are in-charge of the outcome. If you confirm through live casino review sites that they offer Provably fair then you can stake and enjoy your views of pretty women. In some games like live Baccarat; numerous users can share one table without them knowing. The live room owners cannot manipulate results, they are there to provide the live room.

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February 13, 2022, 09:59:21 PM
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For me it's all about the results. If I got really drawn to these games, I'd keep playing regardless of trust that I have towards the people who run these or audit them. You can always test these by playing with small money and stick with it if it keeps going your way. From my experience most people choose the games they like and the games they have results in before they do their research about the site that runs them and all other small details. That's why lottery tickets are so popular despite very low chance to win and the government taxing the shit out of big winners.
You are the only ones who could make out such impression whether its a real one or not and if you do find out that it is something interesting and doesnt mind about fairness then
this wouldnt really be bothering you but i couldnt really blame out people who do have this kind of impression for them not to be fair.If they are reputable then expect that theres
someone behind who do really trying out to cover up their shadiness for it not to be bust up and keep people believing that they are dealing with some fair game.

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February 13, 2022, 10:35:18 PM
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Well, I guess it depends on what live games I'm watching? I've never had much experience with it though, I've only joined like two or three, watched a few without joining, and that's about it. I've never really questioned most of what I experienced (probably cause I couldn't give a single damn about trying to find out whether it's rigged or not), but no, not really. It's also the main reason why I don't play them that much, it looks way too suspicious at times and you can't really do anything even if you complain about it.

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February 13, 2022, 11:13:27 PM
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I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.

A good topic for me.

However, I don't know or am aware of the "fair" side of those games. The trust might be subjective but I don't really play on those games due to the fact that I don't think they are really live. I'd rather bet on slots regardless of their respective RTPs or go all-in to sports betting which I found more interesting and my chances of winning are somehow great.

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I also questioned the fairness of these games. I can't imagine that somewhere part in the world, there's really a live studio hosting these games. Even it was a part of the popular gambling site, I don't trust these games even for a purpose of entertainment.

Not just Monopoly or games similar to it but for other live casinos as well.

Live Casinos is not in my vocabulary to play with.

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February 13, 2022, 11:56:18 PM
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That was a tough question if it's about putting our trust. I rarely bet on that type of game but I do before. I even think it was fair since even it's pre-recorded or I don't know the term to call it if I bet it right, I will win. But too much for speculation now as my conclusion now is, I won't play on those games from now.

Not saying I don't trust them but not comfortable risking money at live games.
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I don't put my hand into the fire for this kind of game, but I see they are really popular. In my country there are similar games of this kind, part of an important national TV channel's grade which gives lots of prizes weekly to people who purchase the tickets and sign a monthly "membership". And that is true there is no way to know for sure if the results are legit, especially because it's part of a TV show, but people really don't seem to care about it. They still put their money on this kind of thing, although we know cryptocurrency casinos are much more trustful and accurated on its results.

It really doesn't make sense why these gamblers don't adopt cryptocurrency to ensure they will be putting their money into provably fair games.

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Knowing they're in operation for quite some time I think they can be somewhat trusted but on the other hand, it'd be interesting to see someone try and record these live sessions and see the actual numbers.

I enjoy playing live casino games but not these two I always prefer card games since the experience is slightly enjoyable and sometimes engaging compared to the regular card games plus they have different variants of the game.

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Knowing they're in operation for quite some time I think they can be somewhat trusted but on the other hand, it'd be interesting to see someone try and record these live sessions and see the actual numbers.

I enjoy playing live casino games but not these two I always prefer card games since the experience is slightly enjoyable and sometimes engaging compared to the regular card games plus they have different variants of the game.
It is true that they wouldn't last on how many years of existing if there would be some discrepancy about those live bets been made or the games that they've been running.
Its impossible that gamblers wouldnt really able to spot out if they were shady or not fair on the first place but who knows if those things are really indeed rigging those games?
No one could prove out though thats why we do only speculate out that they are doing this but we couldnt really point out fingers if there would be no solid evidence.

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That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.
All types of gambling games are aggressive, sometimes you can get lucky and sometimes you can disappear that's gambling, if you talk about trust, of course for me the answer is no.

For that this is where the question arises 'what is your goal in gambling' my answer is for fun, no matter slot games, Monopoly, Roulette, Back, Sports and so on.

You are talking about a direct Monopoly game, of course the game is a bit of fun with a paid offer of x $ $ if you are lucky, whose name is a game of course there is a loss and a win, Honestly if I want to have fun in Monopoly games, I never place a lot of bets, the minimum I take, for example as below.


One, two, three X rounds unlucky I go, if lucky I try a few times, it's my pleasure.

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I am not sure if they are provably fair, as that is gambling and we know that everything can happen in the middle of the games. But if even they are not provably fair, that will not be a problem for me since I do not spend too much money to gamble. But I still prefer to play as usual but maybe I will play live games. I do not play gambling too much and do not intend to play gambling, whether playing live games or other gambling games. But that case can be our lesson to knowing how to manage our money so if they really trick their user by not provably fair, our losses are not too big.



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Knowing they're in operation for quite some time I think they can be somewhat trusted but on the other hand, it'd be interesting to see someone try and record these live sessions and see the actual numbers.

I enjoy playing live casino games but not these two I always prefer card games since the experience is slightly enjoyable and sometimes engaging compared to the regular card games plus they have different variants of the game.
Entertainment is to each of their own, I mean what's the point of individuality when you're not allowed to like what you want right, I do like live card games too. I think that we should look for reviews of these companies to make sure that they can be trusted, it's not everytime that we should trust the longevity of a company or a website, everyone can get worse overtime.
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Live games are really entertaining, is like watching TV while we pace bets. But they are not probably fair, and there are a lot of videos on youtube that show how the rolls are manipulated. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu7400hUA3A)

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.

That's why I start this topic, I want to know if the people of the community trust in those games.



There's no solid evidence that they are using brakes to pick the number of their choice, but it's speculated that they are using a brake or magnet to pick the number that they want to win, the Youtube videos that you posted is not a piece of solid evidence but I don't trust this kind of game because there's no way we can guaranty that there are not using these devices unless we have one regulatory representative presence but even if there is one, there's a possibility that it can be manipulated.


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February 14, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
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I haven't tried the monopoly game but it looks same as live roulette ,can't guarantee it's fair or not because I wasn't there in ,just relying on the internet and platforms ! honestly don't believe it (in my heart) but it's a little fun if win ,even though there are many chances of losing because could be braked using a magnet or something "I'm in neutral on trust"

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Not going to lie, when I initially read the title, I thought someone actually incorporated the Monopoly game into gambling, which would have definitely piqued my interest, as I quite like a game of Monopoly from time to time.

I know they run under a gambling license, but we don't know how rigged the machines are, even the Dice rolls for the Monopoly board could be a replay of a video and not a live roll.
Yeah, having a gambling license or being a registered company doesn't automatically mean they're trustworthy or legitimate in how they deploy their games. The only way that's acceptable is being provably fair, and any gambling website worth their weight, will spend the extra money in implementing this, because they know they'll get extra customers from it, as well as solidify their reputation.

I am not sure if they are provably fair, as that is gambling and we know that everything can happen in the middle of the games. But if even they are not provably fair, that will not be a problem for me since I do not spend too much money to gamble. But I still prefer to play as usual but maybe I will play live games. I do not play gambling too much and do not intend to play gambling, whether playing live games or other gambling games. But that case can be our lesson to knowing how to manage our money so if they really trick their user by not provably fair, our losses are not too big.
Any game which is online, and doesn't have a clear logic behind the house edge or fairness, should be provably fair. I'm personally not into slots, and mini games like this, as I prefer sports betting, but I would absolutely not use anything that doesn't prove that behind the scenes nothing untoward is going on.
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Gambling license usually do on audit even on there live videos. Audit will surely determine if they are using a replay video since live video is there main product and watching it is the only way to audit it.  There's no point for them to rig the game since the chance of hitting huge win numbers and special games is very low versus the amount of choices player can bet. Probability wise will always be in favor to the house so why they will risk there license to operate for rigging a game that they have an advantage to the player.

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I also questioned the fairness of these games. I can't imagine that somewhere part in the world, there's really a live studio hosting these games. Even it was a part of the popular gambling site, I don't trust these games even for a purpose of entertainment.

Not just Monopoly or games similar to it but for other live casinos as well.

Live Casinos is not in my vocabulary to play with.

I understand your approach to live casinos and your doubts. However, if you do not believe these games are fair, on what basis do you believe any other casino games are fair?
I also understand that there can always be doubts, but if a casino is licensed and is checked by external audits, the risk of cheating is extremely small.

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