Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms?

[goldkingcoiner]

Anything that currently finances the Russian state, which can effectively be considered all businesses in Russia and operating out of Russia for the state or for Russian investors/Businessmen can be and should be considered Russian state funds. Remember, Russia is NOT a democracy. The people have no rights, no freedom and certainly no vote. If Russian state decides they need your money, then thats their money now.

So in short, yes I would boycott Russian gambling platforms as well.

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[Fortify]

Anything that currently finances the Russian state, which can effectively be considered all businesses in Russia and operating out of Russia for the state or for Russian investors/Businessmen can be and should be considered Russian state funds. Remember, Russia is NOT a democracy. The people have no rights, no freedom and certainly no vote. If Russian state decides they need your money, then thats their money now.

So in short, yes I would boycott Russian gambling platforms as well.

It's a tricky one because you run the risk of alienating all Russian people and that potentially makes them think that Putin is the only option. At present it looks like the EU and USA are going for total economic warfare with all the recent moves, it might be the only way to dislodge the Russian President. Unfortunately the war in Ukraine is completely unjustified and they were never a threat to Russia, just an example of a possible successful democratic country showing the last two decades have made no progress under the oligarch driven and corrupt alternative.

[kaya11]

Boycotting gambling platforms won't do damage at all, who would play in times of war and on high alert levels? I think a sanction that could hit Russian hard will be related to food. If somehow all exporters from different countries around the world pust sanctions, it will have a minimal and slow effect. I know winter is far and they could've prepared ahead. Downside is, maybe it would be too late to wait for them to starve, by that time they could've destroyed Ukraine and the war has stopped or escalated in another war. At least try everything we've got, some of the leaders around the world do not, because they could benefit from this. World powers sit and enjoy the slaughter and whatever remains they are left with the most power and untouched right? Means they are playing a safe side, and whatever happens to Ukraine is none of their business I guess.

[goldkingcoiner]

Anything that currently finances the Russian state, which can effectively be considered all businesses in Russia and operating out of Russia for the state or for Russian investors/Businessmen can be and should be considered Russian state funds. Remember, Russia is NOT a democracy. The people have no rights, no freedom and certainly no vote. If Russian state decides they need your money, then thats their money now.

So in short, yes I would boycott Russian gambling platforms as well.

It's a tricky one because you run the risk of alienating all Russian people and that potentially makes them think that Putin is the only option. At present it looks like the EU and USA are going for total economic warfare with all the recent moves, it might be the only way to dislodge the Russian President. Unfortunately the war in Ukraine is completely unjustified and they were never a threat to Russia, just an example of a possible successful democratic country showing the last two decades have made no progress under the oligarch driven and corrupt alternative.

Well, we cannot afford to hope on the Russian people. If by now they haven't started a revolt, it might never come. Especially since this is Ukraine we are talking about, their "brother nation". You would think people would be much angrier..

If anything, economic and other forms of isolation of the Russian people will be the fuel needed to spark that anger deeper, if a revolt is what you are hoping for.

Any former soviet nation that decides to join the western world is a threat to Russia, because it takes Russia's power away.

[Gozie51]

I'll go for the boycott if you are updated on the news you will read and see that many sporting events are banning Russia in their events so why not support the boycott against Russia, so Russians will urge their government to ask strongly to their government that they stop the aggressions against Ukraine if Russians feel the impact of the ban and boycott the government will think of stopping the aggression so far I'm not playing in Russian gambling platform but if I have one I will boycott too.

Boycott of gambling in Russia won't play a major role even sports at large may not stop putin has been stripped off his black belt from the Taekwondo but it has not made any difference so far. The economic sanction is the biggest of the sanctions that can affect Putin and that is because it will put hardship on Russians. The war has entered 6th day and running, gambling boycott won't get anywhere to stop him.

[$crypto$]

I'll go for the boycott if you are updated on the news you will read and see that many sporting events are banning Russia in their events so why not support the boycott against Russia, so Russians will urge their government to ask strongly to their government that they stop the aggressions against Ukraine if Russians feel the impact of the ban and boycott the government will think of stopping the aggression so far I'm not playing in Russian gambling platform but if I have one I will boycott too.

Boycott of gambling in Russia won't play a major role even sports at large may not stop putin has been stripped off his black belt from the Taekwondo but it has not made any difference so far. The economic sanction is the biggest of the sanctions that can affect Putin and that is because it will put hardship on Russians. The war has entered 6th day and running, gambling boycott won't get anywhere to stop him.

The sanctions imposed by several countries against Russia made their currency plummet to its lowest level in history. This proves that the sanctions are very severe, even all sports competitions from Russia have been disqualified for an indefinite period of time due to aggression against Ukraine. Many countries have criticized and about gambling, I never gamble located in Russia because I don't know, but whether this plays a big role or not gambling from Russia is not very well known, (to me)

[Zlantann]

We know Ukraine needs all the support, but the common man in the street of Russia would feel the boycott. Putin and his cronies would always have enough. Think about the millions of people that would loose their sources of income if we boycott Russia.

[mindrust]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I wouldn't support that. First of all, how do we know that these casinos are Putin supporters or not? Maybe they don't like Putin at all. This whole thing is becoming a Nazi campaign. Being a Russian is not a crime. I see news people beating up other people just because they are Russians. These stuff will only make the situation worse. If we follow this same logic, we should boycott all the German companies too because they let Hitler rise in power.

[Little Mouse]

Both the platforms are boycotted by me already by default. Because both of these sites are most likely sister site and operated by the same scammer. They have huge bad records from the past.
Anyway, back to the topic, I don't know which site is Russian and which isn’t. I would be as I'm right now to be honest.

[fiulpro]

Being a Russian is definitely not a crime as people are saying here, am from Ukraine but the essential part is : Making sure there is literally nothing that's increasing the economic value of Russia at the moment because at the end of the day, they have to cut all the money going there with Belarus as well trying to Join the war, the situation is dire. Therefore I do think it won't be a bad idea to block the Russian websites at the moment. There are other Gambling alternatives that you can use. You can also check for the online book makers as well. It is hard to track Russian sites I understand but boycotting or no, let's see what's going to happen.

[Marvelman]

After all, the boycott has reasons for doing so, so what are your reasons for boycotting gambling sites operating in Russia, What if Russian supporters oppose your boycott, this forum is democracy/freedom, don't think in this forum everyone supports Ukraine, you can boycott but not in this forum, but in your region live with your support, our country a lot in this forum, thoughts are also different.

I don't understand your reasoning. You say this forum is about democracy / freedom, but I'm not allowed to invite forum members to the collective boycott of Russian casinos? That's not democracy and freedom then.

I did not say that boycotting should be mandatory or that everyone should participate. I simply expressed my personal opinion and asked for other members' opinions on the subject.

Online Betting in Russia

15 Russian betting sites
 • Liga Stavok
• 1xBet
• Winline
• BetCity
• 888 (no relation to 888.com)
• Fonbet
• Olympus
• Baltbet
• Leon
• BingoBoom
• PariMatch
• Marathon
• Zenit
• Bwin

Thanks for this information. I'll check out these websites and add them to the OP.

[Marvelman]

I apologize, I didn't expect so many replies in such a short amount of time. I will try to respond to those who directly referred to my post.

Instead of boycotting any Russian online services (which will only harm the businesses and people that are not supporting the war), it might be a better idea to focus your intentions on supporting the Ukrainian civilians, that are in need of food and petrol.

I agree, that would be better. Unfortunately, there is more than a 1,000 km between me and the nearest Ukrainian border so I can't just go there and help. I am however collecting donations for local Red Cross and I'm offering accommodation for refugees, if needed. I think every good deed counts, no matter how small.

I guess the compromise to this kind of situation is just to avoid, for the time being, associating yourself with these websites until everything gets resolved.

What do you mean by "avoid associating yourself with these websites"? If you mean to avoid using their services, that's exactly what I suggested.

If you are unaffected by war, you should not take sides and instead appeal for peace between the sides.
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I can't believe you think that way. If you saw a bully attacking a weaker kid in the schoolyard, would you not intervene?

...Besides, Putin is the one that triggered the war, he is the one to be blamed and not any function casino from Russia.

Putin cannot be the only responsible party, he could not have done all this by himself. You can learn more about State responsibility under International law here.

[Fatunad]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I wouldn't support that. First of all, how do we know that these casinos are Putin supporters or not? Maybe they don't like Putin at all. This whole thing is becoming a Nazi campaign. Being a Russian is not a crime. I see news people beating up other people just because they are Russians. These stuff will only make the situation worse. If we follow this same logic, we should boycott all the German companies too because they let Hitler rise in power.

I wouldnt also support this thing too on which there are some generalization speaking on what nationality you do have which it isnt right that those business would be affected and its true that they are running off a business on a particular country but doesnt mean that they do always agree nor follows. Business is business and it has nothing to do nor being attached with these things.
As for 1xbit then it already have bad reputation on this forum which it isnt really needed for such manner.

[Cookdata]

I can't believe you think that way. If you saw a bully attacking a weaker kid in the schoolyard, would you not intervene?

I don't know much about the history and I don't want to change the topic of discussion but Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons to Russia for a reason, you can't sign a deal and want to change it afterwards, If intervention is by boycotting Russian casinos, did presidency owned them? it still doesn't make sense for the poor to suffer at the hands of political decisions, both Russia and Ukraine need to end it.

Putin cannot be the only responsible party, he could not have done all this by himself. You can learn more about State responsibility under International law here.

Putin is a leader but of course surrounded by a round table that makes decisions but casino or any other business didn't order the invasion of Ukraine, they are already suffering from inflation and other sanctions.

[Marvelman]

...the Russian government and their military are without a doubt committing a criminal act and as such they need to be punished, however why every single person living at Russia needs to suffer as well?

You're putting words in my mouth. I have never said that every single person living in Russia needs to suffer.

It's not like the Russian casinos are run by Putin himself.

...If intervention is by boycotting Russian casinos, did presidency owned them?

Are you sure about that? According to online sources, 1XBET, and its subsidiaries, were founded by Russian billionaire Roman Semiokhin, Dmitry Kazorin, and Sergey Karshkov. Karshkov has government connections, having once worked for the Regional Ministry of Internal Affairs. Besides, It is well known that the oligarchs brought Putin to power, and that today he controls the oligarchs and, together, they control and exploit the criminal world to their mutual advantage.

edit: If you are interested in learning more about this topic, I suggest reading "The Vory: Russia's Super Mafia" by Mark Galeotti

[Jemzx00]

Both of the gambling website mentioned are somehow being boycotted by the forum DT's itself as they are known scammers. I don't even know why they are allowed on this platform even having that much of a bad reputation.

As per the boycott, I don't agree with this action as the gambling platforms or casinos are not the one involved on this conflict but rather it's their government. I might change my mind if they start sponsoring or providing assistance with their government to gain more edge on this conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

[Rengga Jati]

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

Without this war, these two sites and also other similar platforms are accused of scammers. So, why should use them?

This war has had a very negative impact, not only on Ukraine but also on the Russians. This may be the conflict between the stakeholders, officials, or government in the country, as well as various political or other interests from both parties.
And again the victims are citizens, both from Ukraine and Russia. As long as both are still with their own interests and their unwillingness to make peace, then this conflict and war will continue and even get worse.

[delfastTions]

Being a Russian is definitely not a crime as people are saying here, am from Ukraine but the essential part is : Making sure there is literally nothing that's increasing the economic value of Russia at the moment because at the end of the day, they have to cut all the money going there with Belarus as well trying to Join the war, the situation is dire. Therefore I do think it won't be a bad idea to block the Russian websites at the moment. There are other Gambling alternatives that you can use. You can also check for the online book makers as well. It is hard to track Russian sites I understand but boycotting or no, let's see what's going to happen.

I think we should not underestimate the economic value of Russia.  Many fossil natural materials are mined in its vast territory.  At the same time, there are quite unique ones, and in the event of a boycott of Russia on the world market, their prices will increase many times over.  The same gas for Europe.  All this will greatly accelerate inflation, which is not good.
 And whether or not to boycott sites from Russia does not matter at all.  This empty worthless stupidity

[Furious 7]

Even though the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is still ongoing and many parties are still making boycotts about Russia, it is the same as what others have said before.
This is a business and most are individuals (in the sense that it does not refer to the government) although indeed gambling sites are not completely independent from the government but this is very unfair to civil society there.
Politics and governments that do this do not mean that their civilians should also be affected. In Russia there are also many people who definitely don't want something like this to happen. So, don't let mistakes made at one point cause losses in all areas. It's not that I support what Russia is doing at the moment, but indeed on the other hand we also have to think about other things, not just war and government politics.

[delfastTions]

Even though the conflict between Russia and Ukraine is still ongoing and many parties are still making boycotts about Russia, it is the same as what others have said before.
This is a business and most are individuals (in the sense that it does not refer to the government) although indeed gambling sites are not completely independent from the government but this is very unfair to civil society there.

Of course it's unfair.
All these sites are opened by ordinary people who simply have the ability to entrepreneurial activities and who have knowledge and skills in the IT field. Most of these sites have international devs teams, and by boycotting them you should understand that you are insulting international teams, which is generally wrong, but I’m generally disgusted.